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Title: Does Satoshi deserve a kind of noble prize in mathematics as Perelman? Post by: genuise on April 03, 2013, 06:50:00 AM Recently on some forum I was explaining bitcoin and faced the fact that for sceptics or novices it is difficult to dig further to understand vouge term "mathemetical problem". What mathemetical problem.
I remeber that found the explanation of it and it has a name - Byzantine generals problem. After I answered that forum question I was curious whether Satoshi deserves such a prize for the first in history implementation of the solution. any opinion? Title: Re: Does Satoshi deserve a kind of noble prize in mathamatics as Perelman? Post by: oakpacific on April 03, 2013, 07:27:05 AM First there is no Nobel prize for mathematics, only Fields medal, which is what Perelman got.
Second, I think Satoshi may deserve a Nobel prize in economics. Title: Re: Does Satoshi deserve a kind of noble prize in mathamatics as Perelman? Post by: bg002h on April 03, 2013, 07:29:20 AM No. While clever, there is no new science in Bitcoin. He just put well tested ideas together.
Title: Re: Does Satoshi deserve a kind of noble prize in mathamatics as Perelman? Post by: Severian on April 03, 2013, 07:33:06 AM there is no new science in Bitcoin. I disagree. The blockchain is revolutionary and will probably end up with its own spot in computing science history. Title: Re: Does Satoshi deserve a kind of noble prize in mathamatics as Perelman? Post by: genuise on April 03, 2013, 08:20:11 AM And that is why I wrote not for invention but for implementation.
so for implementation? Title: Re: Does Satoshi deserve a kind of noble prize in mathamatics as Perelman? Post by: alexeft on April 03, 2013, 10:05:07 AM No. While clever, there is no new science in Bitcoin. He just put well tested ideas together. All inventors do that. The inventor of the car didn't invent the wheel as well. He just put a chariot and an engine together. Title: Re: Does Satoshi deserve a kind of noble prize in mathamatics as Perelman? Post by: herzmeister on April 03, 2013, 11:55:18 AM Second, I think Satoshi may deserve a Nobel prize in economics. that's endowed by Sweden's Central Bank. :) Title: Re: Does Satoshi deserve a kind of noble prize in mathematics as Perelman? Post by: genuise on April 03, 2013, 12:45:20 PM Agree, probably does not need, but does he deserves any such a prize from any existing? and which prize he could deserve?
Title: Re: Does Satoshi deserve a kind of noble prize in mathamatics as Perelman? Post by: bg002h on April 03, 2013, 12:59:02 PM No. While clever, there is no new science in Bitcoin. He just put well tested ideas together. All inventors do that. The inventor of the car didn't invent the wheel as well. He just put a chariot and an engine together. It's a prize for science, not assembly. Title: Re: Does Satoshi deserve a kind of noble prize in mathamatics as Perelman? Post by: greyhawk on April 03, 2013, 01:04:21 PM I disagree. The blockchain is revolutionary and will probably end up with its own spot in computing science history. There's nothing new about shared transaction databases. Title: Re: Does Satoshi deserve a kind of noble prize in mathematics as Perelman? Post by: n8rwJeTt8TrrLKPa55eU on April 03, 2013, 01:20:20 PM As a university instructor in Finance, I tell my junior colleagues that, if you trading model works, you don't need tenure. Satoshi doesn't need a Nobel Prize. I expect that 'he' is doing just fine. On the other hand, the first pseudonymous Nobel Prize would be cool. I would love him to be offered the prize in economics, and then come out of hiding just to sign a message refusing it on principle. Title: Re: Does Satoshi deserve a kind of noble prize in mathematics as Perelman? Post by: scatha on April 03, 2013, 01:26:45 PM He won't need a Nobel Prize but he might issue a part of his funds for a new "Satoshi Prize" at some point in the future
Title: Re: Does Satoshi deserve a kind of noble prize in mathematics as Perelman? Post by: genuise on April 03, 2013, 01:59:42 PM He won't need a Nobel Prize but he might issue a part of his funds for a new "Satoshi Prize" at some point in the future Cool idea!!!! :) Title: Re: Does Satoshi deserve a kind of noble prize in mathematics as Perelman? Post by: Carlton Banks on April 03, 2013, 02:18:35 PM He won't need a Nobel Prize but he might issue a part of his funds for a new "Satoshi Prize" at some point in the future Cool idea!!!! :) Obama won the Nobel Prize for Peace, so I think that until that award gets repealed (and perhaps given instead to Bradley Manning), the Nobel Prizes haven't got much legitimacy in the 21st century +1 Satoshi Prize (I would make it a straight up Prize for Humanitarianism) Title: Re: Does Satoshi deserve a kind of noble prize in mathamatics as Perelman? Post by: Severian on April 03, 2013, 02:26:24 PM There's nothing new about shared transaction databases. The application and implementation of the blockchain is new. Can you point me to another version of Bitcoin's blockchain before 2009? Title: Re: Does Satoshi deserve a kind of noble prize in mathamatics as Perelman? Post by: alexeft on April 03, 2013, 02:59:44 PM No. While clever, there is no new science in Bitcoin. He just put well tested ideas together. All inventors do that. The inventor of the car didn't invent the wheel as well. He just put a chariot and an engine together. It's a prize for science, not assembly. Agree, but I hope you realize that even when doing science, one still utilizes and assembles pre-existing tools, unless nobel laureates also have to reinvent eg mathmatics. |