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Economy => Gambling => Topic started by: habijabi on October 22, 2016, 06:37:44 AM



Title: **** MOST FAKE GAME YABTCL.COM ******
Post by: habijabi on October 22, 2016, 06:37:44 AM
I found the most fake website www.yabtcl.com, dont play here for real bitcoin invest, you can loose all your money, just see my screenshot, i play here more than 100000 times, but no win, your choosing number not played, each time you change the number, but not play your number.

https://s18.postimg.org/rq8phdmlh/yab.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/rq8phdmlh/)

Here is the more proof of other user , they are playing and their profit..

https://s12.postimg.org/k01524wcp/xxs.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/k01524wcp/)


Title: Re: *************** MOST FAKE GAME YABTCL.COM ********************
Post by: Erza on October 22, 2016, 11:20:33 AM
This is gambling, what will you expect? Earn in everytime you bet? There is no such thing, because this is business too and i am sure they want to get some profit too. And what i get from your screenshot, it is just a normal lose, did you ever get 33 red streaks?


Title: Re: **** MOST FAKE GAME YABTCL.COM ******
Post by: ultrloa on October 22, 2016, 11:32:00 AM
I found the most fake website www.yabtcl.com, dont play here for real bitcoin invest, you can loose all your money, just see my screenshot, i play here more than 100000 times, but no win, your choosing number not played, each time you change the number, but not play your number.

https://s18.postimg.org/rq8phdmlh/yab.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/rq8phdmlh/)

Here is the more proof of other user , they are playing and their profit..

https://s12.postimg.org/k01524wcp/xxs.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/k01524wcp/)

Well if that streak continues to exist straighly well their should be something wrong in that site, but if your experiencing some occasional win and lose but still you lose your bet well i can see that its your unlucky time since gambling doesnt offer us passive profit and higher percentage for us to lose if we are not carefull to place some and do some lazy acts.


Title: Re: **** MOST FAKE GAME YABTCL.COM ******
Post by: cpfreeplz on October 22, 2016, 11:33:39 AM
Your screenshots are such low resolution I can't tell what kind of odds you had to win. I really don't see this as proof that they are a "fake" gambling website. Could you clarify what odds you were playing and post better screenshots?

Also, you're getting paid by a scamming bitcoin gambling website so this is probably just bad karma.


Title: Re: **** MOST FAKE GAME YABTCL.COM ******
Post by: panjul07 on October 22, 2016, 03:42:02 PM
It is a lottery game where your chance to win is so small, you did not win after 100k times is normal in a lottery game imho. Even you may get more worst result, lose all your money without winning any cents. I do not really familiar witg this site though, is it a provably fair game?


Title: Re: **** MOST FAKE GAME YABTCL.COM ******
Post by: amacar2 on October 22, 2016, 05:48:11 PM
Winning on lottery need really good luck if you have checked dustlottery (moneypot based) there is one guy who have won more than 90 bitcoin (around) in single ticket where chances of winning that jackpot is really low.

So to be in topic, i have also played in yabtcl in past and have hit 3 numbers in scheduled lottery one time. Looking at how they calculate wining ticket, it seems they practice fair way.

Quote
To generate the winning numbers we wait for the chosen block to have 6 confirmations, then we concatenate the block hash (lower case), the block height, the server secret and the SHA256 hash (upper case) of the file with the participating tickets, then we calculate the SHA512 hash of the resulting string and repeat the following steps until we have 6 distinct winning numbers:

1. Transform the hexadecimal SHA512 hash got on the previous step to a number in base 10
2.  Get the remainder when dividing the number got in the step 1 by 67
3. Add one to the number got in the step 2
4. If the number got in the step 3 is not on the list of winning numbers, add it to the list
5. Get the SHA512 hash of the hexadecimal value used in the step 1
6. Repeat if we still don't have 6 distinct numbers on the list

you can find this here http://www.yabtcl.com/help.aspx?lng=en#tabsLotteryTypes-1


Title: Re: **** MOST FAKE GAME YABTCL.COM ******
Post by: newIndia on October 22, 2016, 06:12:56 PM
I found the most fake website www.yabtcl.com, dont play here for real bitcoin invest, you can loose all your money, just see my screenshot, i play here more than 100000 times, but no win, your choosing number not played, each time you change the number, but not play your number.
Dont they offer any way to verify Provable Fairness? If they do, then u lose 100000 times or more, makes no difference. But, if they dont, please let us know...


Title: Re: **** MOST FAKE GAME YABTCL.COM ******
Post by: deadsilent on October 22, 2016, 08:41:04 PM
The op must be very frustrated. 100000 times he played but not won. But saw the screenshot theres a green is that the win?
This is gambling so expect it to lose or win. But choosing a highly reputable gambling site is a good way to get a fair play. If i were you, i will look for more reputable site and play there.


Title: Re: **** MOST FAKE GAME YABTCL.COM ******
Post by: SparkedDev on October 23, 2016, 01:19:45 AM
Ive had a 50 red streak before and it sucked.
You if they have a provably fair system that can be checked then all is good.
If not then it should be an issue that games can't be checked and i don't know very many sites that don't let you verify bets.


Title: Re: **** MOST FAKE GAME YABTCL.COM ******
Post by: ethereumhunter on October 23, 2016, 04:11:09 AM
if we don't winning at least for 1 winning, then its because we don't have a luck in gambling so better we stay away from gambling site if we don't want to loss our money.

beside that, i think the OP can play gambling on another site to challenge his luck and i hope his luck is work. its not because fake or not, but its about how ready you loss your money in gambling site.


Title: Re: **** MOST FAKE GAME YABTCL.COM ******
Post by: shapeshiftscam on October 23, 2016, 04:52:00 AM
This is lotto game, the expected return is the lowest in the casino games, if you play lostto, is equal to give you money away.


Title: Re: **** MOST FAKE GAME YABTCL.COM ******
Post by: SaShiRaJaVu on October 23, 2016, 07:14:31 AM
the expectation you had to make some quick buck is the problem here ,Yet Another Bitcoin Lottery is a lottery based gambling site and the odds to win a lottery is really small but it is fun, you cant expect to win everytime


Title: Re: **** MOST FAKE GAME YABTCL.COM ******
Post by: len01 on October 23, 2016, 01:44:29 PM
i think this site not fake because i ever hit 500x with faucet  ;D


Title: Re: *************** MOST FAKE GAME YABTCL.COM ********************
Post by: BlueStackz on October 24, 2016, 10:35:56 AM
This is gambling, what will you expect? Earn in everytime you bet? There is no such thing, because this is business too and i am sure they want to get some profit too. And what i get from your screenshot, it is just a normal lose, did you ever get 33 red streaks?
What a pity ! so the op did not even know much about gambling but come here to claim that a site is fake. I was wondering who is faking it, you or the site that you gambed on ? AS you can see, the members here have started to point a faulty finger at you. Always try to be sure of yourself before coming out to defame a particular person or a business.


Title: Re: **** MOST FAKE GAME YABTCL.COM ******
Post by: staxxd on October 24, 2016, 12:52:27 PM
I found the most fake website www.yabtcl.com, dont play here for real bitcoin invest, you can loose all your money, just see my screenshot, i play here more than 100000 times, but no win, your choosing number not played, each time you change the number, but not play your number.

https://s18.postimg.org/rq8phdmlh/yab.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/rq8phdmlh/)

Here is the more proof of other user , they are playing and their profit..

https://s12.postimg.org/k01524wcp/xxs.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/k01524wcp/)

WOW GET REAL DUDE!

0.00002x164 = A hell of a lot more than the amount shown negative here! What a DICK!

I have played (and won) several times on the YABTCL
 lotto site and I think the odds are reasonable.

Also, it's quite obvious that he had at least some wins throughout the 164 rounds that were played as his bet is
0.00002 and 0.00002x164 = 0.00328, therefore, he would be negative much more had he not had any wins.

I think it is incredibly foolish for someone to try and ruin the reputation of a website who is doing nothing wrong just because
they obviously are not gambling responsibly. If you cannot afford to kiss your sat goodbye, do not wager them. And when you
do, and lose, how dare you attempt to harm their reputation just out of spite? Whoever you are, you are a sad asshole and I
feel sorry for you. Did you not think anyone would take two seconds to do the math? Stop trying to start shit for people who
run a fair and reputable website just cause you can't afford to lose the wagers you place.


Title: Re: **** MOST FAKE GAME YABTCL.COM ******
Post by: hatshepsut93 on October 24, 2016, 07:24:29 PM
This thread is very dumb, yet another loser asshole cries "scam" just because he has lost. YABTCL has been in business for years and they are provably fair, inside the Help section there's a full explanation of how draws are made and how they are secured from tampering.


Title: Re: **** MOST FAKE GAME YABTCL.COM ******
Post by: raphma on October 25, 2016, 02:28:24 AM
Sorry, but i dont see nothing in your SS... at least nothing suspicious. i understand that is hard to believe in gambling sites but you need proofs to come here and claim they are cheating.


Title: Re: **** MOST FAKE GAME YABTCL.COM ******
Post by: BTCevo on October 25, 2016, 06:01:19 AM
i think this site not fake because i ever hit 500x with faucet  ;D

You can say that way. Because that is faucet, if they is not provably fair they might give you something good on using faucet hut when you are played it for real they will scam you. But YABTCL is fair enough and they have provably fair game, I dont think that they will scam littlw money like you used


Title: Re: **** MOST FAKE GAME YABTCL.COM ******
Post by: yabtcl on October 27, 2016, 09:14:56 PM
I found the most fake website www.yabtcl.com, dont play here for real bitcoin invest, you can loose all your money, just see my screenshot, i play here more than 100000 times, but no win, your choosing number not played, each time you change the number, but not play your number.

https://s18.postimg.org/rq8phdmlh/yab.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/rq8phdmlh/)

Here is the more proof of other user , they are playing and their profit..

https://s12.postimg.org/k01524wcp/xxs.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/k01524wcp/)

Oh... you again.

We already sent you a message about your last post trying to explaining how our systems works, what is provably fair, and so on...

But now we only wants to ask you one question.

If you really think all this from us why do you keep coming here every day to post on our thread to get you double bonus on our faucet?


Title: Re: **** MOST FAKE GAME YABTCL.COM ******
Post by: Daffadile on October 27, 2016, 11:10:01 PM
I think the YABTCL.com website is doing well. I don't like the odds so I don't bet and if you feel that way too then don't bet either. You have a choice you know. I don't hate the site just because I don't like how they do their odds. I just prefer double or nothing bets so I can see more easily the winnings before hand.


This is a lotto site it is ment for lots of low bets because the payouts are in the thousands.


Title: Re: **** MOST FAKE GAME YABTCL.COM ******
Post by: maku on October 28, 2016, 12:40:56 AM
Can we have a copy of these screenshots? It seems that they are no longer available due to host issues or something.
It is hard to relate do this discussion if main evidence is missing.


Title: Re: **** MOST FAKE GAME YABTCL.COM ******
Post by: oxygen88 on October 28, 2016, 08:09:26 AM
I don't think their site is rigged, this site have been around for quite a long time, and the chances to hit the jackpot is not high too :D


Title: Re: **** MOST FAKE GAME YABTCL.COM ******
Post by: staxxd on October 28, 2016, 02:11:33 PM
Can we have a copy of these screenshots? It seems that they are no longer available due to host issues or something.
It is hard to relate do this discussion if main evidence is missing.

The photos he posted showed had a bet amount, how many times the bet was made and a -btc profit that was MUCH lower than it should have been had he lost EVERY single bet. I think I put the exact numbers when I saw this dumbass post the other day.


Title: Re: **** MOST FAKE GAME YABTCL.COM ******
Post by: fando01 on October 28, 2016, 03:02:05 PM
gambling is gambling maybe your luck is not good if you asking me why chosing gambling if you want sure profit.


Title: Re: **** MOST FAKE GAME YABTCL.COM ******
Post by: eternalgloom on October 28, 2016, 04:57:55 PM
It's not because you suddenly start losing that the game is fake.
It's possible, but I haven't seen many complaints about it, is this provably fair?


Title: Re: **** MOST FAKE GAME YABTCL.COM ******
Post by: JasonXG on October 28, 2016, 06:59:34 PM
That doesnt prove that it is fake. Those are not statistics. You show no reasoning as to why its fake. You need facts and figures and to shoe mathematically that it does not make sense or add up quite right. It is a lotto game so there will be very few wins. To win the 5000x you will statistically play 5000x or less. You habe no played nesrlly enough to make such a judgement.


Title: Re: **** MOST FAKE GAME YABTCL.COM ******
Post by: staxxd on October 29, 2016, 09:51:34 AM
http://i67.tinypic.com/2hrooia.jpg

Started with the 1000 sat faucet and made a yolo with one number picked, quadrupled my balance and had a nice little cloud of dust to play with and eventually decided to cash at this since I am pretty sure I felt another yolo coming along. Anyway, I've deposited maybe five or six times there and it's been extremely fair to say the least. All we're doing by bringing this shitpost back up to the front of the line by commenting still is risking someone seeing it and not reading the info and getting the wrong impression. I guess technically this post is officially also doing what I just said shouldn't be done. heh. Anyway! The shit is legit and not only is it possible to win off your depo but I was pleased with this free amount of BTC. Too-da-loo.

Also I geuss I am dumb and IDK how to post a pic it's still showing as link lol ;/ Is this because I am a newb or am I dumb newb? heh PM me cause IDK how TF to use forums. <3