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Title: Bitcoin Price Jumps on Trump Victory
Post by: MadGamer on November 10, 2016, 08:00:03 AM
The shocking news of Donald Trump’s election victory rattled markets across the world, leading some investors to seek refuge in assets outside of stocks and bonds. The price of gold surged, as it usually does during times of uncertainty, but it wasn’t the only asset to benefit.

The cryptocurrency bitcoin also jumped to a recent high of $738 overnight, and was trading at around $726 on Wednesday morning according to Coindesk. That represents around a 3% increase from the $708 mark that was yesterday’s bitcoin price and this is all according to Fortune (http://fortune.com/2016/11/09/bitcoin-trump/)

I'm the only one thinking that It has nothing to do with him winning the elections ? because If it was the case , price wouldn't turn to what it was before.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Price Jumps on Trump Victory
Post by: Seansky on November 10, 2016, 10:22:12 AM
All I can say is that it is good news for all of us here especially those who are still holding their bitcoin from 2012 up to now who continue to believe in bitcoin. Ill just continue to believe in it too so that ill get good profit too. I hope that trump's victory will have further good effect on bitcoin in the near future. I also hope that he don't ban bitcoin to be used on USA for it to attract more new investors from there.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Price Jumps on Trump Victory
Post by: Milkduds on November 10, 2016, 05:47:56 PM
It should level off soon with so many unknown aspects for bitcoin relating to the government.
Just can not see a increase well we sit here with no concept of how bitcoin will be addressed if at all.
I know he made mention of bitcoin but way to many issues with more consequences that need to be looked at first.
Would say online poker is in the same boat for now,just rocking in the waters and buying time.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Price Jumps on Trump Victory
Post by: mirakal on November 14, 2016, 08:30:06 AM
This should continue to rise, it was just after the announcement that trump is the winner but now seems the price was stable or slightly falling. We can tell in the following weeks, it's too early to tell but I'm positive that trump is a good contribution for the bitcoin.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Price Jumps on Trump Victory
Post by: Liad.Services on November 14, 2016, 08:32:36 AM
The shocking news of Donald Trump’s election victory rattled markets across the world, leading some investors to seek refuge in assets outside of stocks and bonds. The price of gold surged, as it usually does during times of uncertainty, but it wasn’t the only asset to benefit.

The cryptocurrency bitcoin also jumped to a recent high of $738 overnight, and was trading at around $726 on Wednesday morning according to Coindesk. That represents around a 3% increase from the $708 mark that was yesterday’s bitcoin price and this is all according to Fortune (http://fortune.com/2016/11/09/bitcoin-trump/)

I'm the only one thinking that It has nothing to do with him winning the elections ? because If it was the case , price wouldn't turn to what it was before.
I think that the only reason that bitcoin went higher from the point people realized that Trump is going to win the race,is that the stocks and USD currency went down,so at the same hand bitcoin had to go up to match the prices decreases.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Price Jumps on Trump Victory
Post by: TriggerX on November 14, 2016, 08:37:33 AM
Annnd now it's at $702.


I was honestly expecting the Bitcoin price to DROP when Trump won.

Same. I thought people would completely lose interest in anything US related and thus the stocks would plummet completely. Needlessly to say, I was shocked when I checked the price today ???


Title: Re: Bitcoin Price Jumps on Trump Victory
Post by: HaXX0R1337 on November 14, 2016, 12:32:58 PM
Yeah yeah, obviously like the markets went down after his winning, but that doesnt says that we will have a recession/crisis thanks to his election.
This is just a shock, freshly after elections, you should remember how much Clinton was hyped, according to Trump etc. etc
We need to take our time, and see what is going to happen, but i think that Trump may help btc a little bit ;)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Price Jumps on Trump Victory
Post by: clickerz on November 14, 2016, 01:15:37 PM
This should continue to rise, it was just after the announcement that trump is the winner but now seems the price was stable or slightly falling. We can tell in the following weeks, it's too early to tell but I'm positive that trump is a good contribution for the bitcoin.

Yes, we can observe in the coming weeks or months. As of now, dolalr is low and businessman are waiting for his policies on economy,diplomacy etc. All eyes are on him as his policies and future plans will affect the country.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Price Jumps on Trump Victory
Post by: Kotone on November 14, 2016, 01:50:29 PM
The shocking news of Donald Trump’s election victory rattled markets across the world, leading some investors to seek refuge in assets outside of stocks and bonds. The price of gold surged, as it usually does during times of uncertainty, but it wasn’t the only asset to benefit.

The cryptocurrency bitcoin also jumped to a recent high of $738 overnight, and was trading at around $726 on Wednesday morning according to Coindesk. That represents around a 3% increase from the $708 mark that was yesterday’s bitcoin price and this is all according to Fortune (http://fortune.com/2016/11/09/bitcoin-trump/)

I'm the only one thinking that It has nothing to do with him winning the elections ? because If it was the case , price wouldn't turn to what it was before.
As i can see the in the preev.com the price of bitcoin is already decrease and i really don't know why is the reason why the bitcoin is down in that price if it's really because of trump victory and because of his coins then we do not know hoping that bitcoin price will be increase again and increase


Title: Re: Bitcoin Price Jumps on Trump Victory
Post by: jtipt on November 14, 2016, 01:56:11 PM
Annnd now it's at $702.
I was honestly expecting the Bitcoin price to DROP when Trump won.
I dont think the bitcoin price rise or drop is anyway related to Trump winning or the US elections. Its just the normal BTC rise and falls that keeps happening because of traders nothing new really. But if it really did matter on Trump winning then its a sharp rise and gradual fall, it was $708 before winning at $732 after winning and now its gradually dropping and its at $699 right now.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Price Jumps on Trump Victory
Post by: Hazir on November 14, 2016, 01:56:29 PM
Don't be baited into thinking that Trump election would mean mean long time prosperous time for bitcoin. It was only a temporary price spike.
Stock Investors like always are reacting allergically to every change they think might destroy our current economic status quo.
It was exactly the same after Brexit - bitcoin's price spiked for a brief time and reverted to back to standard position.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Price Jumps on Trump Victory
Post by: sonnyacg on November 14, 2016, 02:28:30 PM
yeah i guess if Trump became president of the American. bitcoin will increase, because according to a study by consulting firm Juniper said that the price of bitcoin will increase rapidly this year when Donald Trump was elected president of the United States. Valuation value of bitcoin will increase three-fold from $ 27 billion to $ 92 billion.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Price Jumps on Trump Victory
Post by: Carlsen on November 14, 2016, 02:37:02 PM
Don't be baited into thinking that Trump election would mean mean long time prosperous time for bitcoin. It was only a temporary price spike.
Stock Investors like always are reacting allergically to every change they think might destroy our current economic status quo.
It was exactly the same after Brexit - bitcoin's price spiked for a brief time and reverted to back to standard position.

At the moment it's the banks who profit from Trumps election.
My bank stocks are climbing and climbing now ever since he got elected. He promised them deregulation, so a big chance to earn lots of money.
Bitcoin just had a small peak, but now we are even a little lower than before the election. Seems like stocks are more lucrative for investments at the moment.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Price Jumps on Trump Victory
Post by: shyich03 on November 14, 2016, 03:03:04 PM
Don't be baited into thinking that Trump election would mean mean long time prosperous time for bitcoin. It was only a temporary price spike.
Stock Investors like always are reacting allergically to every change they think might destroy our current economic status quo.
It was exactly the same after Brexit - bitcoin's price spiked for a brief time and reverted to back to standard position.
its just like what happens to gold and JPY. goes up for a bit and then back down. People still gave faith in the US economy under Trumps hand. To be honest, he could bloom the US economy, but with the price of less international influence.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Price Jumps on Trump Victory
Post by: Qartersa on November 14, 2016, 03:20:36 PM
In light of the US election and Trump winning, I think it didn't affect Bitcoin very much. The price is just really bound to reach that level. If it did affect the price, then we should have seen a real big jump in prices. So, I think it didn't change it.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Price Jumps on Trump Victory
Post by: outatime1 on November 14, 2016, 03:38:08 PM
It's hard to know why the price of bitcoin increased and also why the US stock market has increased. Speculators were saying that the stock market would drop if he were elected.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Price Jumps on Trump Victory
Post by: n0ne on November 14, 2016, 03:39:28 PM
On the day of US election poll results price jumped steeply getting closer to $435, which had started to decrease in a short after few days. Then in few days it tried to sustain within a limited range. Now the price begins to fall. Hopefully by the coming month start once again the continuous increase in price starts.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Price Jumps on Trump Victory
Post by: Denker on November 14, 2016, 04:07:30 PM
Don't be baited into thinking that Trump election would mean mean long time prosperous time for bitcoin. It was only a temporary price spike.
Stock Investors like always are reacting allergically to every change they think might destroy our current economic status quo.
It was exactly the same after Brexit - bitcoin's price spiked for a brief time and reverted to back to standard position.

I think no one expected that if Trump gets elected Bitcoin will moon.This was defenitely some false assumption.
Bitcoin doesn't need Trump or any goverment to grow in value. Ok if the mess things up even more it will help to push up Bitcoin's value fast.
But we don't need it as we are developing and progressing without their need.We've don this the last 8 years and will continue doing so.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Price Jumps on Trump Victory
Post by: izanagi narukami on November 14, 2016, 04:37:16 PM
Trump has unexpected vision about bitcoin so this may happen. With this influence , we as bitcoin holder are getting strong to keep announcing the power of bitcoin and one day , all world will notice bitcoin just like dollar, etc


Title: Re: Bitcoin Price Jumps on Trump Victory
Post by: praboso96 on November 14, 2016, 04:45:40 PM
It's hard to know why the price of bitcoin increased and also why the US stock market has increased. Speculators were saying that the stock market would drop if he were elected.

This again suggests that the price of Bitcoin does not depend on such incidents. While it may be she got up on the background of popular unrest surrounding the elections


Title: Re: Bitcoin Price Jumps on Trump Victory
Post by: TheGodFather on November 15, 2016, 07:44:50 AM
wow this is a great news for us bitcoin users. I hope he can make America great again. what do you think. does the future is near on our time right now ? what if this presidents and leaders in everycountry make the future for us. i hope they will propose that bitcoin will be our digital currency we can use in everyday life to make our daily needs to easy. like buying a coffee if we have a digital currency we can just send them a money through btc and we can get our coffee. just like that. I'm Imagining the future again.  ;D


Title: Re: Bitcoin Price Jumps on Trump Victory
Post by: Vhern on November 15, 2016, 08:36:42 AM
wow this is a great news for us bitcoin users. I hope he can make America great again. what do you think. does the future is near on our time right now ? what if this presidents and leaders in everycountry make the future for us. i hope they will propose that bitcoin will be our digital currency we can use in everyday life to make our daily needs to easy. like buying a coffee if we have a digital currency we can just send them a money through btc and we can get our coffee. just like that. I'm Imagining the future again.  ;D

To America be "great again" they just need another war and steal some poor country...

I believe that people just used the Trump to manipulate the market since after one day the price goes back to "normal", hope it can increase again.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Price Jumps on Trump Victory
Post by: TastyChillySauce00 on November 15, 2016, 10:47:18 AM
wow this is a great news for us bitcoin users. I hope he can make America great again. what do you think. does the future is near on our time right now ? what if this presidents and leaders in everycountry make the future for us. i hope they will propose that bitcoin will be our digital currency we can use in everyday life to make our daily needs to easy. like buying a coffee if we have a digital currency we can just send them a money through btc and we can get our coffee. just like that. I'm Imagining the future again.  ;D

To America be "great again" they just need another war and steal some poor country...

I believe that people just used the Trump to manipulate the market since after one day the price goes back to "normal", hope it can increase again.
just figured out from the statistic : http://www.x-rates.com/graph/?from=USD&to=EUR&amount=1
the bitcoin's price rising is actually because the decreasing value of dollars and had been weakened because of trump's victory,and now america could make their currency "great" again and now bitcoin's price also affected and can't increasing again as what have happened few days ago


Title: Re: Bitcoin Price Jumps on Trump Victory
Post by: Sithara007 on November 15, 2016, 11:18:50 AM
To America be "great again" they just need another war and steal some poor country...

The countless foreign invasions (Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya, Kosovo.etc) is the main reason why the American economy is in such a bad state. For America to retain its past glory, it just needs to stop meddling in the internal affairs of the third world nations.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Price Jumps on Trump Victory
Post by: jondeen707 on November 15, 2016, 11:43:56 AM
I guess now it would be safe to say that Trump's victory did not have any effect on the price, nothing out of the ordinary.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Price Jumps on Trump Victory
Post by: shield132 on November 15, 2016, 12:55:33 PM
I guess now it would be safe to say that Trump's victory did not have any effect on the price, nothing out of the ordinary.
He is a billioner and now president of usa but I think it doesn't make any scense about bitcoin's price high jump ( I think he isn't trading by bitcoin 😃 ). I think it's only coincide but I would say that I was happy when I saw that price and I didn't sell coins that day and it makes me angry.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Price Jumps on Trump Victory
Post by: Catmony on November 15, 2016, 06:06:38 PM
I guess now it would be safe to say that Trump's victory did not have any effect on the price, nothing out of the ordinary.
It have effected when he got elected because many traders feel bitcoin will be safer place to store their asset and that turned out to be true. All other market were red while bitcoin get green after election, and after few days those traders taken out their cash from bitcoin with some profit to start pumping those assets which have gone red during election.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Price Jumps on Trump Victory
Post by: toy4lov3rs on November 15, 2016, 06:12:16 PM
I honestly don't think there's any correlation between Trump winning and the increase in Bitcoin. With this sample of data is just is not conclusive enough to say it's directly caused by his winning. If for example it jumped to 900 that would be a completely different story. Then we could get to talkin.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Price Jumps on Trump Victory
Post by: Shady on November 15, 2016, 06:30:00 PM
BTC already joined NYSE's index and can now be traded publicly without going to exchanges. Although the market is a little less relevant to most people who dump money, it doesn't update as often as going through directly because of delays.

It may take time for Donald Trump's policies to have a benefit, despite this foreign countries are attempting to further develop ahead of the norm. EU + many Eastern countries have added loads of incremental value by adjusting technological services based on compatible currency functions to better supply cryptocurrency users.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Price Jumps on Trump Victory
Post by: nikrobi on November 15, 2016, 06:31:22 PM
I honestly don't think there's any correlation between Trump winning and the increase in Bitcoin. With this sample of data is just is not conclusive enough to say it's directly caused by his winning. If for example it jumped to 900 that would be a completely different story. Then we could get to talkin.

Maybe there is a correlation yes. If investors, traders, businessmen think Trump will be a partner of bitcoins and another crypto currencies, the chance to migrate to bitcoins is higher, because they can have the supply of the president of the biggest world potency.
I hope Trump endorses the btc idea, it would be amazing for the success of crypto currencies.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Price Jumps on Trump Victory
Post by: Lucas* on November 15, 2016, 06:44:30 PM
and now it's 713,9 USD :/ it's almost stable , we can say that the trump's victory has no effect in the volatility of Bitcoin .
I hope in the future that Trump  will think about Bitcoin as a real money , and from this point we expect a big growth in price of bitcoin , either i don't think that bitcoin will rise more than 800 usd in this year .


Title: Re: Bitcoin Price Jumps on Trump Victory
Post by: tee-rex on November 15, 2016, 08:55:31 PM
To America be "great again" they just need another war and steal some poor country...

The countless foreign invasions (Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya, Kosovo.etc) is the main reason why the American economy is in such a bad state. For America to retain its past glory, it just needs to stop meddling in the internal affairs of the third world nations.

I wouldn't mind if Trump on his quest of making America great again made Bitcoin great too along the way, though without interfering with other nations' affairs. Trump may look like a clown sometimes, but with Hillary starting another war on some "ism" was almost a given. Regarding Trump, his victory and Bitcoin price, we have two events ahead that could throw some light on the correlation discussed here. I refer to the meetings of electors on December, 19 and the actual inauguration on January, 20.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Price Jumps on Trump Victory
Post by: mindrust on November 15, 2016, 09:04:11 PM
The "jump" was very weak. Just like with gold. The thing is, money markets didn't panic like crazy like everybody expected  them to when Trump's win was secured. Gold made a 50$jump, Bitcoin made a 20$ jump and then everything went back to normal. In fact Bitcoin stood strong very well considering that gold even lost 80$ more after it lost that 50$ gain during the election day. Bitcoin is still around 700-710 which is quite good. I wouldn't call this a "Jump" but it is still nice.

To me, money markets are all adapted to Trump's win. They accepted it.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Price Jumps on Trump Victory
Post by: btcdevil on November 15, 2016, 09:34:27 PM
The "jump" was very weak. Just like with gold. The thing is, money markets didn't panic like crazy like everybody expected  them to when Trump's win was secured. Gold made a 50$jump, Bitcoin made a 20$ jump and then everything went back to normal. In fact Bitcoin stood strong very well considering that gold even lost 80$ more after it lost that 50$ gain during the election day. Bitcoin is still around 700-710 which is quite good. I wouldn't call this a "Jump" but it is still nice.

To me, money markets are all adapted to Trump's win. They accepted it.

ya it is true that now bitcoin is getting strong buying support when ever their is a fall and now i think the restriction price of bitcoin is changed between $680 - $ 730 and i wont think now that it will break this restriction till any new good or bad news follows


Title: Re: Bitcoin Price Jumps on Trump Victory
Post by: pooya87 on November 16, 2016, 04:35:13 AM
well now that some time has passed i can say for sure that all the price changes that happened so far was irrelevant to Trump and his victory in the US election. and this is actually what i expected to be like, a little bit of hype and some volatility as a result of it and then back to normal because nothing has really changed. not yet anyways!


Title: Re: Bitcoin Price Jumps on Trump Victory
Post by: achow102 on November 16, 2016, 07:08:25 PM
well now that some time has passed i can say for sure that all the price changes that happened so far was irrelevant to Trump and his victory in the US election. and this is actually what i expected to be like, a little bit of hype and some volatility as a result of it and then back to normal because nothing has really changed. not yet anyways!

I am also sure. Bitcoin itself and is independent of political upheavals. But now let's hope that Trump will not import bans cryptocurrency


Title: Re: Bitcoin Price Jumps on Trump Victory
Post by: ikydesu on November 16, 2016, 09:45:39 PM
The affect is not really influence the price, just a little jump and its down, and the price become more stable before he's elected.
According to yahoo finance article (http://finance.yahoo.com/news/bitcoin-price-soars-but-it-isnt-about-trump-and-clinton-180415865.html), the price jump because yuan has fallen and its happening to greece and venezuela.
People looking for an alternative to saving their money, and bitcoin is the best choice.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Price Jumps on Trump Victory
Post by: Catlonid on November 17, 2016, 12:23:18 AM
well now that some time has passed i can say for sure that all the price changes that happened so far was irrelevant to Trump and his victory in the US election. and this is actually what i expected to be like, a little bit of hype and some volatility as a result of it and then back to normal because nothing has really changed. not yet anyways!

I am also sure. Bitcoin itself and is independent of political upheavals. But now let's hope that Trump will not import bans cryptocurrency
i think bitcoin which is not affected by political because of bitcoin independent. in my opinion, bitcoin rose as a result of other factors. but if bitcoin rise as a result of elections of trump I think it does not matter, the important, bitcoin is not prohibited.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Price Jumps on Trump Victory
Post by: MingLee on November 17, 2016, 12:36:05 AM
Not surprising. Values of secure-er investments go up because of market uncertainty, and then the market closes at one of the all-time-high's the next day. Nothing too out of the ordinary, and it follows predictable market patterns. Similar to what happened almost immediately after Brexit and what happened with their markets. Nothing is really weird about the trends.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Price Jumps on Trump Victory
Post by: EdenHazard on November 17, 2016, 12:56:31 AM
Not surprising. Values of secure-er investments go up because of market uncertainty, and then the market closes at one of the all-time-high's the next day. Nothing too out of the ordinary, and it follows predictable market patterns. Similar to what happened almost immediately after Brexit and what happened with their markets. Nothing is really weird about the trends.
world stock markets are really weird you know , all dropped immediately when trump officially won the election but not with bitcoin , the price going up quiet significant around 2 to 3 percent within 24 hours after trump winning.

this could be a good sign , trump is a businessman and the followers might know about bitcoin potential.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Price Jumps on Trump Victory
Post by: tee-rex on November 17, 2016, 10:23:43 AM
Not surprising. Values of secure-er investments go up because of market uncertainty, and then the market closes at one of the all-time-high's the next day. Nothing too out of the ordinary, and it follows predictable market patterns. Similar to what happened almost immediately after Brexit and what happened with their markets. Nothing is really weird about the trends.
world stock markets are really weird you know , all dropped immediately when trump officially won the election but not with bitcoin , the price going up quiet significant around 2 to 3 percent within 24 hours after trump winning.

this could be a good sign , trump is a businessman and the followers might know about bitcoin potential.

I don't think that it is a sign at all, at least, so far. Stock markets dropped after Trump had been declared a winner for the simple reason that the markets didn't expect him to win, the news of his victory came in as a complete shock for the bulk of traders, and the drop was only a sort of knee-jerk reaction. In just a few days markets adapted to the new reality and quickly came back to their usual patterns.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Price Jumps on Trump Victory
Post by: Betwrong on November 17, 2016, 12:04:18 PM
The media around the world made people think that the Trump's presidency is almost like the end of the world or at least the end of the USA. Since many people not only in the USA but in other world too were keeping their savings in USD they have started exchanging it on a more promising currency. And right now we have $742 which looks good to me. )


Title: Re: Bitcoin Price Jumps on Trump Victory
Post by: tee-rex on November 17, 2016, 12:15:09 PM
The media around the world made people think that the Trump's presidency is almost like the end of the world or at least the end of the USA. Since many people not only in the USA but in other world too were keeping their savings in USD they have started exchanging it on a more promising currency. And right now we have $742 which looks good to me. )

If that were the case, we would see the US dollar index go down dramatically. On the contrary, it has been on the rise recently, and right now it is exactly at 100.01. I don't think many people are actually exchanging dollars to bitcoins, it looks more like money from stock markets is running into safe havens of which dollar is best while bitcoin is only second best.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Price Jumps on Trump Victory
Post by: PAMPT on November 17, 2016, 02:51:32 PM
The shocking news of Donald Trump’s election victory rattled markets

It wasnt shocking at all.

U guys got it all wrong about Trump. Dude with a cummy fuckable wick is not a middlebrow ponce in a presidential chair, and decisions he had made throughout his carrier actually foresee his presidency, which, I believe, was the part of his big plan from the beginning. I mean huge plan to make more richies in the fastest ways possible.

Hes got the stellar inheritance from his dad and pushed family's private real estate deeds far beyond the imagination of everyday illiterate american brain. So it is. I dont see a similar scenario in which that bitch rather lands her fat ass in the presidential chair. Trump should have won and he won. Ever since, he had been multiplying his money, ditching in the shadows and finalizing up his preparations till he gets the time, the right time to act, the right chair and title to make it all implicitly perfect. Why do u think golds back to magnets and keeps falling while stock gets pumped to lunar orbit?

Treasury bonds up and kicking, and look at the interest rates pulling the tides! Its just that Trumps in action, hes got all worlds hype now, hes got the big fat cats rolling the ball down the hill for him, ceding ground for more money prints, and huge commercial establishments rebuilds. Woah! This means Trumps buying up bonds and stocks in large quantities (I hope he has accumulated enough in the long-run though), steeper inflation, bonds hiking up, and bump in monetary supply which is at 3317 billion USD at the time of this writing. Dollar inflation is good for bitcoin but those who look for correlation between gold and bitcoin and never find it though, will soon have to reconsider their stance when bitcoin bumps past gold prices as the threat arises that real estate enters into the bubble. Profit taking is how thats called. Ya know, what u have learned from the past recessions including 2008 crysis is what ull again fall victims for. Property pricing would lift up in normal environment, without any Trumps, but huge astronomic bonds bubble means CDS and CDO's back into play, and thats attributable to the new recession of unseen magnitude. Trump is da dude! Post bubble US markets would be eager to curb the demand for bitcoin which is to rebuild from the ashes the new post-trump economy. Crypto economy.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Price Jumps on Trump Victory
Post by: arseaboy on November 17, 2016, 03:38:14 PM
The media around the world made people think that the Trump's presidency is almost like the end of the world or at least the end of the USA. Since many people not only in the USA but in other world too were keeping their savings in USD they have started exchanging it on a more promising currency. And right now we have $742 which looks good to me. )

If that were the case, we would see the US dollar index go down dramatically. On the contrary, it has been on the rise recently, and right now it is exactly at 100.01. I don't think many people are actually exchanging dollars to bitcoins, it looks more like money from stock markets is running into safe havens of which dollar is best while bitcoin is only second best.

Yeah both bitcoins and stocks are looking great.. I don't think that this has something to do with Trump's Victory.. but if this is the main reason well that's a good a news for us because we will see the price of bitcoin will really go up constantly.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Price Jumps on Trump Victory
Post by: tee-rex on November 17, 2016, 03:41:22 PM
The shocking news of Donald Trump’s election victory rattled markets

It wasnt shocking at all.

U guys got it all wrong about Trump. Dude with a cummy fuckable wick is not a middlebrow ponce in a presidential chair, and decisions he had made throughout his carrier actually foresee his presidency, which, I believe, was the part of his big plan from the beginning. I mean huge plan to make more richies in the fastest ways possible

I remember Hillary coquettishly stating a few years back that she was not going to run for presidency when she was asked directly about her presidential ambitions. Trump, in his 1990 Playboy magazine interview, had also said that becoming the president of the US was not his priority then. To his credit, he also added that he would change his mind if he saw that the US "continued to go down the tubes".


Title: Re: Bitcoin Price Jumps on Trump Victory
Post by: Leonard2016 on November 17, 2016, 05:27:21 PM
The media around the world made people think that the Trump's presidency is almost like the end of the world or at least the end of the USA. Since many people not only in the USA but in other world too were keeping their savings in USD they have started exchanging it on a more promising currency. And right now we have $742 which looks good to me. )

If that were the case, we would see the US dollar index go down dramatically. On the contrary, it has been on the rise recently, and right now it is exactly at 100.01. I don't think many people are actually exchanging dollars to bitcoins, it looks more like money from stock markets is running into safe havens of which dollar is best while bitcoin is only second best.

Yeah both bitcoins and stocks are looking great.. I don't think that this has something to do with Trump's Victory.. but if this is the main reason well that's a good a news for us because we will see the price of bitcoin will really go up constantly.

many other things are looking so good right now, it is not just bitcoin and stocks.

i guess the news of Trump and his victory and mostly what he may do financially to America has been huge enough to create some sort of good expectation in all the markets and raise their prices.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Price Jumps on Trump Victory
Post by: EdenHazard on November 24, 2016, 08:12:51 AM
Not surprising. Values of secure-er investments go up because of market uncertainty, and then the market closes at one of the all-time-high's the next day. Nothing too out of the ordinary, and it follows predictable market patterns. Similar to what happened almost immediately after Brexit and what happened with their markets. Nothing is really weird about the trends.
world stock markets are really weird you know , all dropped immediately when trump officially won the election but not with bitcoin , the price going up quiet significant around 2 to 3 percent within 24 hours after trump winning.

this could be a good sign , trump is a businessman and the followers might know about bitcoin potential.

I don't think that it is a sign at all, at least, so far. Stock markets dropped after Trump had been declared a winner for the simple reason that the markets didn't expect him to win, the news of his victory came in as a complete shock for the bulk of traders, and the drop was only a sort of knee-jerk reaction. In just a few days markets adapted to the new reality and quickly came back to their usual patterns.
you think now after a couple days trump announced won the election all the stock market restored and back to the usual patterns? i don't think so , all gone wild , include bitcoin which up positively in several days ago.

i hope trump did not make a controversial policy regarding digital economy especially bitcoin later in his days being a president of USA.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Price Jumps on Trump Victory
Post by: mrkevio on November 24, 2016, 08:24:20 AM
The media around the world made people think that the Trump's presidency is almost like the end of the world or at least the end of the USA. Since many people not only in the USA but in other world too were keeping their savings in USD they have started exchanging it on a more promising currency. And right now we have $742 which looks good to me. )

If that were the case, we would see the US dollar index go down dramatically. On the contrary, it has been on the rise recently, and right now it is exactly at 100.01. I don't think many people are actually exchanging dollars to bitcoins, it looks more like money from stock markets is running into safe havens of which dollar is best while bitcoin is only second best.

Yeah both bitcoins and stocks are looking great.. I don't think that this has something to do with Trump's Victory.. but if this is the main reason well that's a good a news for us because we will see the price of bitcoin will really go up constantly.

many other things are looking so good right now, it is not just bitcoin and stocks.

i guess the news of Trump and his victory and mostly what he may do financially to America has been huge enough to create some sort of good expectation in all the markets and raise their prices.

I feel like Trump is going to be the savior America was looking for for so many years. I can't find a thing that I don't like about him, a suspicious activity he had done and such things. Everything about him is just great.. He wants to save the world. America has been triggering the wars and bad events for a long time already. America has been in trouble until now, and this will influence Bitcoin's price too: the price is going to go just higher and higher!


Title: Re: Bitcoin Price Jumps on Trump Victory
Post by: Gyfts on November 24, 2016, 09:06:04 AM
Honestly the small jump Bitcoin made was extremely minuscule when looking at other aspects of the stock market. As always after an election, there was a drop across the board in most stocks, but practically all of those stocks that dropped came back and are up a few percentage points. Trump's pro-business policies with lower taxes on the wealthy may be factors of this. The economy should be doing fairly well under his administration.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Price Jumps on Trump Victory
Post by: tee-rex on November 24, 2016, 09:12:26 AM
Not surprising. Values of secure-er investments go up because of market uncertainty, and then the market closes at one of the all-time-high's the next day. Nothing too out of the ordinary, and it follows predictable market patterns. Similar to what happened almost immediately after Brexit and what happened with their markets. Nothing is really weird about the trends.
world stock markets are really weird you know , all dropped immediately when trump officially won the election but not with bitcoin , the price going up quiet significant around 2 to 3 percent within 24 hours after trump winning.

this could be a good sign , trump is a businessman and the followers might know about bitcoin potential.

I don't think that it is a sign at all, at least, so far. Stock markets dropped after Trump had been declared a winner for the simple reason that the markets didn't expect him to win, the news of his victory came in as a complete shock for the bulk of traders, and the drop was only a sort of knee-jerk reaction. In just a few days markets adapted to the new reality and quickly came back to their usual patterns.
you think now after a couple days trump announced won the election all the stock market restored and back to the usual patterns? i don't think so , all gone wild , include bitcoin which up positively in several days ago.

Yes, the markets restored to their typical patterns some time after the Trump victory had been announced. If you disagree with that, you can name a specific stock market which you consider as "gone wild", and we will see if it is really so. There is not much sense in empty claims and futile argument when we can just check the facts themselves.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Price Jumps on Trump Victory
Post by: Lucas* on December 23, 2016, 01:08:27 PM
And now the price of bitcoin is > 900 $ , it's the first time ever . since trump be the president of USA the price of bitcoin is grow up  ;D i hope it will be over 10k $ in 2020 .


Title: Re: Bitcoin Price Jumps on Trump Victory
Post by: bryant.coleman on December 23, 2016, 02:08:13 PM
And now the price of bitcoin is > 900 $ , it's the first time ever . since trump be the president of USA the price of bitcoin is grow up  ;D i hope it will be over 10k $ in 2020 .

In BTC-e, it is yet to touch the $900 mark. But there will be fierce resistance at $950-1000 levels. There will be a lot of dumping at that mark. IMO, the prices will decline after touching the four digit exchange rate. The prices will stabilize, and for 2-3 months it will remain at sub-900 levels, before rising again to above $1,000 per coin.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Price Jumps on Trump Victory
Post by: tee-rex on December 23, 2016, 02:22:53 PM
And now the price of bitcoin is > 900 $ , it's the first time ever . since trump be the president of USA the price of bitcoin is grow up  ;D i hope it will be over 10k $ in 2020 .

In BTC-e, it is yet to touch the $900 mark. But there will be fierce resistance at $950-1000 levels. There will be a lot of dumping at that mark. IMO, the prices will decline after touching the four digit exchange rate. The prices will stabilize, and for 2-3 months it will remain at sub-900 levels, before rising again to above $1,000 per coin.

Well, people were telling basically the same before the price broke through $800 resistance level. They were telling that many Bitcoin holders would start fixing profits and a major correction should be expected. I didn't completely exclude such a possibility, but I was telling about the common opinion being used as a contrary indicator. In this case, it is even more so because many people expect that the price will just bounce back once it tries to touch the $1,000 mark. That is a sort of contrary indicator.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Price Jumps on Trump Victory
Post by: Kotone on December 23, 2016, 03:05:37 PM
And now the price of bitcoin is > 900 $ , it's the first time ever . since trump be the president of USA the price of bitcoin is grow up  ;D i hope it will be over 10k $ in 2020 .
This is not the first time bitcoin will hit $900 way back 2013 bitcoin is already in that price when the exchange mtgot arrive and trump will never involved in this happening, Its really impossible that bitcoin will hit 10k$ dollars in that year.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Price Jumps on Trump Victory
Post by: ethereumhunter on December 23, 2016, 03:14:29 PM
And now the price of bitcoin is > 900 $ , it's the first time ever . since trump be the president of USA the price of bitcoin is grow up  ;D i hope it will be over 10k $ in 2020 .

i think its not because of trump become the president of USA, but many people now have using bitcoin for many reason, we don't know for sure but all in all, we are happy with this price and we hope the price can reach more high.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Price Jumps on Trump Victory
Post by: J Gambler on December 23, 2016, 03:19:34 PM
What is the connect of bitcoin price of winning victory of mister Trump? Is he the main reason why the bitcoin price is increasing i don't think so all i know is bitcoin is always increasing in the month of december or by the end of the year increasing by it self. I was really shocked because bitcoin price is really high.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Price Jumps on Trump Victory
Post by: deisik on December 24, 2016, 12:51:33 PM
What is the connect of bitcoin price of winning victory of mister Trump? Is he the main reason why the bitcoin price is increasing i don't think so all i know is bitcoin is always increasing in the month of december or by the end of the year increasing by it self. I was really shocked because bitcoin price is really high.

The connection may be subtle and complex

For example, I could claim that since Trump had been constantly accusing the Chinese government throughout his presidential campaign of stealing American jobs and subsidizing Chinese exporters by deliberately devaluing the national currency, the Yuan (which is partially true, to be honest), the Chinese may be sort of retaliating on him by undermining the value of the US dollar by manipulating the Bitcoin price. They have literally trillions of dollars stacked as US Treasuries (which are basically the same dollars), thereby they could just drop them all and crash the American dollar, but that would heavily backfire on themselves. With Bitcoin appreciation, though, the effects would be less subtle and more manageable and in the end not so damaging to China itself


Title: Re: Bitcoin Price Jumps on Trump Victory
Post by: machinek20 on December 24, 2016, 02:11:06 PM
And now the price of bitcoin is > 900 $ , it's the first time ever . since trump be the president of USA the price of bitcoin is grow up  ;D i hope it will be over 10k $ in 2020 .

i think its not because of trump become the president of USA, but many people now have using bitcoin for many reason, we don't know for sure but all in all, we are happy with this price and we hope the price can reach more high.

I somehow think that there is a connection, but this is just my speculation, when trump elected become president all the stock price become down and that makes dollar become weaker and because our currency exchange is dollar its making bitcoin more expensive, but for now the price is up because there is so much transaction before Christmas, not because of Trump


Title: Re: Bitcoin Price Jumps on Trump Victory
Post by: equator on December 24, 2016, 02:18:54 PM
And now the price of bitcoin is > 900 $ , it's the first time ever . since trump be the president of USA the price of bitcoin is grow up  ;D i hope it will be over 10k $ in 2020 .

i think its not because of trump become the president of USA, but many people now have using bitcoin for many reason, we don't know for sure but all in all, we are happy with this price and we hope the price can reach more high.

I somehow think that there is a connection, but this is just my speculation, when trump elected become president all the stock price become down and that makes dollar become weaker and because our currency exchange is dollar its making bitcoin more expensive, but for now the price is up because there is so much transaction before Christmas, not because of Trump

It can be said as not only elected but he took some good steps which are giving benefit to bitcoin and more over my calculation is if it is due to Christmas then we can see withing 1 or 2 days heavy selling dump because of everyone will be in need of fiat currency so they will start selling bitcoin to encash in fiat and enjoy Christmas and new year


Title: Re: Bitcoin Price Jumps on Trump Victory
Post by: BingoDog on December 24, 2016, 02:20:41 PM
Current price jump has nothing to do with Trumps future presidency. Why do you think this is connected? If someone has a proof or theory please explain this. Chinese are deeply involved in Bitcoin price and they can affect it a lot but not the Trump. At least not at the moment.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Price Jumps on Trump Victory
Post by: Tanic on December 24, 2016, 04:13:53 PM
Current price jump has nothing to do with Trumps future presidency. Why do you think this is connected? If someone has a proof or theory please explain this. Chinese are deeply involved in Bitcoin price and they can affect it a lot but not the Trump. At least not at the moment.
   
The Unated States is the third number by bitcoin users. How can you know that Trump hadn't any connection with that? Maybe he and his people are investing in bitcoin this days and that provoked the prose to rise. Who knows?!


Title: Re: Bitcoin Price Jumps on Trump Victory
Post by: kryptqnick on December 24, 2016, 05:49:19 PM
Current price jump has nothing to do with Trumps future presidency. Why do you think this is connected? If someone has a proof or theory please explain this. Chinese are deeply involved in Bitcoin price and they can affect it a lot but not the Trump. At least not at the moment.
Maybe it really has nothing to do with it, I agree, but as for the theory it can be the one explained above or sort of the opposite. Many people (especially, influential and prosperous ones) didn't vote for Trump, so maybe they believe his residency will be no good for USA and USD. That's why now they might buy some more btc, because it seems to be more reliable to them.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Price Jumps on Trump Victory
Post by: cjmoles on December 24, 2016, 05:59:25 PM
Well, I don't have any numbers, facts, or significant relationships to base my opinion on....But, I think the whole global economy is in a giant bubble....There's too much speculation and not enough hard core information to justify the upward trends in my opinion.  I'm betting that there will be a major shift in the economy soon, so if I were a bear, I'd come out of hibernation and start looking for some shorts....(BTC @ 900 right now)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Price Jumps on Trump Victory
Post by: Farma on December 24, 2016, 06:14:07 PM
many are very pleased with the price increases that occurred recently. Well, even I was also very happy with this increase. but, a very fast rise, sometimes making bitcoin prices become unstable. meaning, perhaps very fast bitcoin prices rise, and has a high price. I think bitcoin prices will drop again after this, but I did not expect it.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Price Jumps on Trump Victory
Post by: Dammitt on December 24, 2016, 06:17:44 PM
Actually, there was an effect, but it's not exactly about trump. It's been a long time for us to find out what kind of american you want. This is a lot of investment in between, maybe it might be his fruit. If we think about it in terms of our advantage, it is good for us to rise.



Title: Re: Bitcoin Price Jumps on Trump Victory
Post by: Yakamoto on December 24, 2016, 06:48:56 PM
And now the price of bitcoin is > 900 $ , it's the first time ever . since trump be the president of USA the price of bitcoin is grow up  ;D i hope it will be over 10k $ in 2020 .

i think its not because of trump become the president of USA, but many people now have using bitcoin for many reason, we don't know for sure but all in all, we are happy with this price and we hope the price can reach more high.

I somehow think that there is a connection, but this is just my speculation, when trump elected become president all the stock price become down and that makes dollar become weaker and because our currency exchange is dollar its making bitcoin more expensive, but for now the price is up because there is so much transaction before Christmas, not because of Trump

It can be said as not only elected but he took some good steps which are giving benefit to bitcoin and more over my calculation is if it is due to Christmas then we can see withing 1 or 2 days heavy selling dump because of everyone will be in need of fiat currency so they will start selling bitcoin to encash in fiat and enjoy Christmas and new year
Looking at the market already I'm quite wary of what is actually going to happen once we hit the new year, and, to be honest, a dump soon after Christmas seems to be one of the most likely scenarios, assuming that there isn't a sudden dump now, brought on my the small slide we've seen.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Price Jumps on Trump Victory
Post by: whizter on December 25, 2016, 12:00:00 AM
Current price jump has nothing to do with Trumps future presidency. Why do you think this is connected? If someone has a proof or theory please explain this. Chinese are deeply involved in Bitcoin price and they can affect it a lot but not the Trump. At least not at the moment.
 
The Unated States is the third number by bitcoin users. How can you know that Trump hadn't any connection with that? Maybe he and his people are investing in bitcoin this days and that provoked the prose to rise. Who knows?!
i think bitcoin cannot be effected by such kind of events. as bitcoin to not belong to a single country, it is decentralize currency, therefore it is not so easy to be effected by the victory of any president of a state or any other event like that.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Price Jumps on Trump Victory
Post by: pooya87 on December 25, 2016, 05:09:36 AM
Current price jump has nothing to do with Trumps future presidency. Why do you think this is connected? If someone has a proof or theory please explain this. Chinese are deeply involved in Bitcoin price and they can affect it a lot but not the Trump. At least not at the moment.
   
The Unated States is the third number by bitcoin users. How can you know that Trump hadn't any connection with that? Maybe he and his people are investing in bitcoin this days and that provoked the prose to rise. Who knows?!

how did you come up with third?
according to trading volume, it is the second. and according to "real" trading volume it is the first.
also according to number of services and businesses accepting bitcoin it is still the first. if you check the number of full nodes it is up there too.
and this rise as i said it before is mostly because of Trump victory and his support for bitcoin.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Price Jumps on Trump Victory
Post by: deppil on December 25, 2016, 06:36:42 AM
Current price jump has nothing to do with Trumps future presidency. Why do you think this is connected? If someone has a proof or theory please explain this. Chinese are deeply involved in Bitcoin price and they can affect it a lot but not the Trump. At least not at the moment.
Lol of course this has nothing to do, even I was not sure about Trump knows about bitcoin, maybe he does not care about bitcoin, so no positive effects in the bitcoin as Trump wins get to be president


Title: Re: Bitcoin Price Jumps on Trump Victory
Post by: bryant.coleman on December 25, 2016, 07:15:37 AM
Current price jump has nothing to do with Trumps future presidency. Why do you think this is connected? If someone has a proof or theory please explain this. Chinese are deeply involved in Bitcoin price and they can affect it a lot but not the Trump. At least not at the moment.
Lol of course this has nothing to do, even I was not sure about Trump knows about bitcoin, maybe he does not care about bitcoin, so no positive effects in the bitcoin as Trump wins get to be president

Trump is a businessman. So I am sure that he must have heard about the digital currency, even if he is not sure about its advantages and disadvantages. But still, it is almost impossible to predict his policy towards Bitcoin. If he is not very knowledgeable about the currency, then he might have to depend upon his advisers to shape the policies regarding BTC.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Price Jumps on Trump Victory
Post by: Dc147 on December 25, 2016, 03:57:12 PM
The shocking news of Donald Trump’s election victory rattled markets across the world, leading some investors to seek refuge in assets outside of stocks and bonds. The price of gold surged, as it usually does during times of uncertainty, but it wasn’t the only asset to benefit.

The cryptocurrency bitcoin also jumped to a recent high of $738 overnight, and was trading at around $726 on Wednesday morning according to Coindesk. That represents around a 3% increase from the $708 mark that was yesterday’s bitcoin price and this is all according to Fortune (http://fortune.com/2016/11/09/bitcoin-trump/)

I'm the only one thinking that It has nothing to do with him winning the elections ? because If it was the case , price wouldn't turn to what it was before.

The victory of Trump has nothing to do with the rise in bitcoin price as other factor could certainly influence the price. However most market were falling immediately after the win of Donald Trump. But the reverse was the case for bitcoin. Just before the election bitcoin price reached nearly$740 thereafter the value stabled at $705  and  suddenly jumped to $739 after his win. Thus, lets wait and see after Trump's inaugauration in January if he will accept bitcoin...


Title: Re: Bitcoin Price Jumps on Trump Victory
Post by: vantyzz on December 25, 2016, 04:53:57 PM
The shocking news of Donald Trump’s election victory rattled markets across the world, leading some investors to seek refuge in assets outside of stocks and bonds. The price of gold surged, as it usually does during times of uncertainty, but it wasn’t the only asset to benefit.

The cryptocurrency bitcoin also jumped to a recent high of $738 overnight, and was trading at around $726 on Wednesday morning according to Coindesk. That represents around a 3% increase from the $708 mark that was yesterday’s bitcoin price and this is all according to Fortune (http://fortune.com/2016/11/09/bitcoin-trump/)

I'm the only one thinking that It has nothing to do with him winning the elections ? because If it was the case , price wouldn't turn to what it was before.

The victory of Trump has nothing to do with the rise in bitcoin price as other factor could certainly influence the price. However most market were falling immediately after the win of Donald Trump. But the reverse was the case for bitcoin. Just before the election bitcoin price reached nearly$740 thereafter the value stabled at $705  and  suddenly jumped to $739 after his win. Thus, lets wait and see after Trump's inaugauration in January if he will accept bitcoin...

I am also convinced that the victory Trump had no effect on the price of Bitcoin. At its price is influenced mainly Chinese miners.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Price Jumps on Trump Victory
Post by: BitcoinPC on January 13, 2017, 04:41:14 AM
I don't think that Donald Trump’s election victory is belong to our bitcoin's price, but i agree on it, suddenly bitcoin price rise up when Trump win in election. I really don't know, Why it is happening? Because in International stocks market suddenly down when Trump winning announce. But it is still good for us, because i am doing investment in bitcoin.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Price Jumps on Trump Victory
Post by: Zisove28 on January 13, 2017, 07:22:35 AM
I don't think that Donald Trump’s election victory is below to our bitcoin's price, but i agree on it, suddenly bitcoin price rise up when Trump win in election. I really don't know, Why it is happening? Because in International stocks market suddenly down when Trump winning announce. But it is still good for us, because i am doing investment in bitcoin.
I am also convinced that there is no connection between the victory and the price for Trump on Bitcoin. I do not know what happened to the price of Bitcoin, but I hope that everything will stabilize in the near future


Title: Re: Bitcoin Price Jumps on Trump Victory
Post by: danherbias07 on January 13, 2017, 10:38:15 AM
Yes and when he sat down bitcoin price goes back down again. What the hell. Is this all a coincidence?  ;D
Does it really have something to do to him?


Title: Re: Bitcoin Price Jumps on Trump Victory
Post by: ArdiPrabowo on January 13, 2017, 03:05:22 PM
bitcoin price incraese not about trump is win election president
bitcoin price incraese because dollar price is strong, and incraese dollar value is big
and effect bitcoin price incraese too


Title: Re: Bitcoin Price Jumps on Trump Victory
Post by: Antoshka on January 13, 2017, 07:58:07 PM
Yes and when he sat down bitcoin price goes back down again. What the hell. Is this all a coincidence?  ;D
Does it really have something to do to him?


Trump is not strong enough to influence the price of Bitcoin. In fact, the price run rich cryptocurrency holders. And ini located in China.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Price Jumps on Trump Victory
Post by: eternalgloom on January 13, 2017, 10:06:05 PM
I don't think that Donald Trump’s election victory is belong to our bitcoin's price, but i agree on it, suddenly bitcoin price rise up when Trump win in election. I really don't know, Why it is happening? Because in International stocks market suddenly down when Trump winning announce. But it is still good for us, because i am doing investment in bitcoin.
Why do you even revive an older topic like this? I mean, it would be fine if you had something useful to add, but you're just rehashing everything that has been said before....

Granted, there's a slight possibility that you just don't speak English well enough to fully portray what you're saying, but from what I'm seeing, you're just a sig spammer.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Price Jumps on Trump Victory
Post by: zikel on January 16, 2017, 11:32:00 AM
then why Bitcoin price has fallen significantly in a few months after the election? Logic and the link between these two things there. Trump does not affect the Bitcoin


Title: Re: Bitcoin Price Jumps on Trump Victory
Post by: streazight on January 16, 2017, 06:24:24 PM
Yes and when he sat down bitcoin price goes back down again. What the hell. Is this all a coincidence?  ;D
Does it really have something to do to him?


Trump is not strong enough to influence the price of Bitcoin. In fact, the price run rich cryptocurrency holders. And ini located in China.
The price of the bitcoin is not related to the trump victory if you tie those two together you will see that with trump taking on the presidential sit you will see that the price is going down, so it does not make any sense, there is nothing that controls the price of the bitcoin except the whole internet community that uses it.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Price Jumps on Trump Victory
Post by: bravehearth0319 on January 21, 2017, 04:11:01 AM
I don't think Bitcoin price jumps on Trump victory, In fact, we still don't have any proof that President Trump is open into bitcoin. And I don't know also if He is aware about in the system of Bitcoin. Lets see for the coming weeks after His inauguration will happen to bitcoin price. IF bitcoin increase not for Him but for the community of bitcoin and investors of Bitcoin.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Price Jumps on Trump Victory
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on January 21, 2017, 04:16:20 AM
Looks like we're getting a little bump tonight, too.  It figures--I just spent what little bitcoin I had on some things.  Serves me right.

Not sure how much Trump has to do with any price movement.  It's been said ad nauseam in the press that bitcoin isn't a go-to asset like gold is.  It's way too volatile.  But it certainly is a convenient explanation. 


Title: Re: Bitcoin Price Jumps on Trump Victory
Post by: icecube45 on January 21, 2017, 08:18:03 AM
I don't think Bitcoin price jumps on Trump victory, In fact, we still don't have any proof that President Trump is open into bitcoin. And I don't know also if He is aware about in the system of Bitcoin. Lets see for the coming weeks after His inauguration will happen to bitcoin price. IF bitcoin increase not for Him but for the community of bitcoin and investors of Bitcoin.
Yes indeed inauguration Trump nothing direct influence on the price of bitcoin, but indirectly it affects I think. Inauguration Trump become president will destabilize the economy, because we all know the political conditions will affect the stability of the economy especially the US is very influential country in the world. Economic instability due to the inauguration Trump will make bitcoin prices will rise, so in my opinion indirectly influence. Now we see the bitcoin prices have increased and I think it is also influenced by the inauguration Trump.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Price Jumps on Trump Victory
Post by: lordquanta on January 21, 2017, 10:54:07 AM
I don't think Bitcoin price jumps on Trump victory, In fact, we still don't have any proof that President Trump is open into bitcoin. And I don't know also if He is aware about in the system of Bitcoin. Lets see for the coming weeks after His inauguration will happen to bitcoin price. IF bitcoin increase not for Him but for the community of bitcoin and investors of Bitcoin.
Yes indeed inauguration Trump nothing direct influence on the price of bitcoin, but indirectly it affects I think. Inauguration Trump become president will destabilize the economy, because we all know the political conditions will affect the stability of the economy especially the US is very influential country in the world. Economic instability due to the inauguration Trump will make bitcoin prices will rise, so in my opinion indirectly influence. Now we see the bitcoin prices have increased and I think it is also influenced by the inauguration Trump.

Mere Trump becoming President should not be taken as sure shot sign economic debacle. In fact by speculating so, everyone(thanks to mainstream aka paid private propaganda shills)  has lowered the bar of performance for Trump.This situation is in fact advantageous for Trump that even if manages to do single improvement then it could give chance to supporters of Trump to declare they were/are right.  
Looking at appointments of ministers from Trump, it is easily observable that his Government would have major Businessmen impact. Just look at the appointment of Rex Tillerson and his recent statement. Then check his interest in South China sea.  For me it is too early to speculate how thing will unfold. It is better to buy some bitcoins for short term goals in mind. This uncertainty have triggered pumped demand causing btc go on bullish.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Price Jumps on Trump Victory
Post by: Xester on January 21, 2017, 11:29:38 AM
I don't think Bitcoin price jumps on Trump victory, In fact, we still don't have any proof that President Trump is open into bitcoin. And I don't know also if He is aware about in the system of Bitcoin. Lets see for the coming weeks after His inauguration will happen to bitcoin price. IF bitcoin increase not for Him but for the community of bitcoin and investors of Bitcoin.
Yes indeed inauguration Trump nothing direct influence on the price of bitcoin, but indirectly it affects I think. Inauguration Trump become president will destabilize the economy, because we all know the political conditions will affect the stability of the economy especially the US is very influential country in the world. Economic instability due to the inauguration Trump will make bitcoin prices will rise, so in my opinion indirectly influence. Now we see the bitcoin prices have increased and I think it is also influenced by the inauguration Trump.

Mere Trump becoming President should not be taken as sure shot sign economic debacle. In fact by speculating so, everyone(thanks to mainstream aka paid private propaganda shills)  has lowered the bar of performance for Trump.This situation is in fact advantageous for Trump that even if manages to do single improvement then it could give chance to supporters of Trump to declare they were/are right.  
Looking at appointments of ministers from Trump, it is easily observable that his Government would have major Businessmen impact. Just look at the appointment of Rex Tillerson and his recent statement. Then check his interest in South China sea.  For me it is too early to speculate how thing will unfold. It is better to buy some bitcoins for short term goals in mind. This uncertainty have triggered pumped demand causing btc go on bullish.


It is not true that Trumps win in the election as the new President of America has no effect on bitcoins price. In fact it has an effect but the sudden skyrocket of the price was really due China and Indias adaptation and purchase of bitcoin. While the sudden decrease on the price of bitcoin was due to the Chinese selling large volumes of bitcoin in the market. Trump on the other hand has also made an impact on bitcoins price but only at a small level.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Price Jumps on Trump Victory
Post by: nikilavi on January 21, 2017, 11:39:24 AM
Well i don't know much but as far as i know the bitcoin price is mainly controlled by the Chinese as most of the big investors are from china. And the recent fall after reaching 1100$ is because of the Chinese ' s itself as there central bank issued a statement that bitcoin can be a risky investment i don't think there was a increase in price because of trumph in can be a coincidence though.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Price Jumps on Trump Victory
Post by: Liad.Services on January 21, 2017, 12:14:35 PM
Well i don't know much but as far as i know the bitcoin price is mainly controlled by the Chinese as most of the big investors are from china. And the recent fall after reaching 1100$ is because of the Chinese ' s itself as there central bank issued a statement that bitcoin can be a risky investment i don't think there was a increase in price because of trumph in can be a coincidence though.

Yes, the last bubble was happened just because the chinese were buying and selling pretty fast.

If you were taking a look at the chinese market's cap you would see a very large and unusual amount of bitcoins that are being transacted.

Anyway I think that Trump is only going to do good to bitcoin, as everything unusual that happens around the world may make the bitcoin's price to rise.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Price Jumps on Trump Victory
Post by: talkbitcoin on January 21, 2017, 02:27:22 PM
bitcoin price rises only because of adoption and because of the big potential bitcoin has and wise investors see that clearly.
all the side news like Trump victory, ... are side news that can temporarily change the price for the better or worse. but that last short term.
the over all trend is rise and will remain that.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Price Jumps on Trump Victory
Post by: RodeoX on January 21, 2017, 02:32:32 PM
Americans tend to think that their news is important around the world and forget that bitcoin is global. It is used by people who don't know what a Trump is. Of course the instability that trump represents could cause more panic in the markets and push money into bitcoin. But I doubt many Chinese buyers think about it much.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Price Jumps on Trump Victory
Post by: Taki on January 21, 2017, 04:51:06 PM
Looks like we're getting a little bump tonight, too.  It figures--I just spent what little bitcoin I had on some things.  Serves me right.

Not sure how much Trump has to do with any price movement.  It's been said ad nauseam in the press that bitcoin isn't a go-to asset like gold is.  It's way too volatile.  But it certainly is a convenient explanation. 

I doubt that that little bump you are talking about has something with Trump. The same as I didn't see some great move in the price for bitcoin with trump's election the same I don't see any change with his inauguration. Bitcoin's price depends from us only from us, bitcoin users.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Price Jumps on Trump Victory
Post by: Slark on January 21, 2017, 05:09:35 PM
Americans tend to think that their news is important around the world and forget that bitcoin is global. It is used by people who don't know what a Trump is. Of course the instability that trump represents could cause more panic in the markets and push money into bitcoin. But I doubt many Chinese buyers think about it much.
But american's economy has global influence, dollar is still top fiat used as legal tender in international trade, we have petrodollar too.
So far Trump's doesn't represent anything, wait for his actions to judge him, don't repeat FUD that he is unstable that mass media are feeding us.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Price Jumps on Trump Victory
Post by: ipanks on January 21, 2017, 05:13:00 PM
maybe there is an affect with bitcoin price jumps on trump victory because bitcoin price is also looks from many aspects and not only with politics like trump victory, but in other aspect will give impacts too. so if bitcoin price jumps for down or up, its should be in many aspects and maybe from increasing people that using bitcoin itself.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Price Jumps on Trump Victory
Post by: Dudeperfect on January 21, 2017, 05:19:38 PM
then why Bitcoin price has fallen significantly in a few months after the election? Logic and the link between these two things there. Trump does not affect the Bitcoin

Some things are interrelated with each other but we can't see the direct relation. Trump and bitcoin might not have direct relation (and in fact, trump doesn't think that computers are safe) but still, some people believe that Trump is positive for bitcoin and they hope that he will give bitcoin, the legal status.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Price Jumps on Trump Victory
Post by: gabmen on January 21, 2017, 05:55:43 PM
then why Bitcoin price has fallen significantly in a few months after the election? Logic and the link between these two things there. Trump does not affect the Bitcoin

Some things are interrelated with each other but we can't see the direct relation. Trump and bitcoin might not have direct relation (and in fact, trump doesn't think that computers are safe) but still, some people believe that Trump is positive for bitcoin and they hope that he will give bitcoin, the legal status.

Hopefully. Though i think people who use btc are confident that a trump presidency is good for crypto exchange. The end of the year price jump which happened when trump is already president elect, tells us that people are optimistic. I think trump knows that he could use bitcoin to his advantage as he knows hiw business works. So let's pretty much wait and see how the next 4years will affect bitcoin but i'm hopeful we'll see the best of bitcoin yet


Title: Re: Bitcoin Price Jumps on Trump Victory
Post by: deisik on January 21, 2017, 06:10:40 PM
Americans tend to think that their news is important around the world and forget that bitcoin is global. It is used by people who don't know what a Trump is. Of course the instability that trump represents could cause more panic in the markets and push money into bitcoin. But I doubt many Chinese buyers think about it much

I guess the effect of a massive dollar devaluation will be felt throughout the world, and the shock wave will definitely circle the planet a few times like a good old hydrogen bomb blasting. So even those who don't care who or what Trump is will inevitably get affected by his financial policies (provided he ever delivers on his promises, of course). Look, the Bitcoin price has again started to surge, so the Chinese buyers do pay attention to what he says after all. And still more to what he does (Trump already denounced Obamacare)...

So let's await what he denounces next


Title: Re: Bitcoin Price Jumps on Trump Victory
Post by: Dammitt on January 21, 2017, 07:46:22 PM
then why Bitcoin price has fallen significantly in a few months after the election? Logic and the link between these two things there. Trump does not affect the Bitcoin

The idea is to join, but we can say that the fact is that the Dollar has risen before that, but with Trump the dollar has risen faster. In short, the Dollar seems to have increased in the bitcoin as far as I can tell. The reasons for the rise in bitcoin are a completely different case, more buying, the effect of half-life can be anything in short.




Title: Re: Bitcoin Price Jumps on Trump Victory
Post by: icecube45 on January 22, 2017, 12:50:52 PM
I don't think Bitcoin price jumps on Trump victory, In fact, we still don't have any proof that President Trump is open into bitcoin. And I don't know also if He is aware about in the system of Bitcoin. Lets see for the coming weeks after His inauguration will happen to bitcoin price. IF bitcoin increase not for Him but for the community of bitcoin and investors of Bitcoin.
Yes indeed inauguration Trump nothing direct influence on the price of bitcoin, but indirectly it affects I think. Inauguration Trump become president will destabilize the economy, because we all know the political conditions will affect the stability of the economy especially the US is very influential country in the world. Economic instability due to the inauguration Trump will make bitcoin prices will rise, so in my opinion indirectly influence. Now we see the bitcoin prices have increased and I think it is also influenced by the inauguration Trump.

Mere Trump becoming President should not be taken as sure shot sign economic debacle. In fact by speculating so, everyone(thanks to mainstream aka paid private propaganda shills)  has lowered the bar of performance for Trump.This situation is in fact advantageous for Trump that even if manages to do single improvement then it could give chance to supporters of Trump to declare they were/are right.  
Looking at appointments of ministers from Trump, it is easily observable that his Government would have major Businessmen impact. Just look at the appointment of Rex Tillerson and his recent statement. Then check his interest in South China sea.  For me it is too early to speculate how thing will unfold. It is better to buy some bitcoins for short term goals in mind. This uncertainty have triggered pumped demand causing btc go on bullish.


It is not true that Trumps win in the election as the new President of America has no effect on bitcoins price. In fact it has an effect but the sudden skyrocket of the price was really due China and Indias adaptation and purchase of bitcoin. While the sudden decrease on the price of bitcoin was due to the Chinese selling large volumes of bitcoin in the market. Trump on the other hand has also made an impact on bitcoins price but only at a small level.
Yups very right, it's like I mean. Although it does not have a big impact but Trump really affect the price of bitcoin is small. See the United States is a great country which is very influential in the world, whatever is done will inevitably affect other countries including crypto like bitcoin. I believe not only the victory but the next Trump will continue to affect the price of bitcoin with the policies that he created.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Price Jumps on Trump Victory
Post by: cjmoles on January 22, 2017, 08:04:42 PM
Americans tend to think that their news is important around the world and forget that bitcoin is global. It is used by people who don't know what a Trump is. Of course the instability that trump represents could cause more panic in the markets and push money into bitcoin. But I doubt many Chinese buyers think about it much.

Well, there is no doubt that there is a lot of money in the United States and that is independent of how many third world nations know about Trump.  Policy changes that concern the economy of the United States may have more of an effect on the price of bitcoin than the world cares to admit....If the United States wages a war on bitcoin, it might influence bitcoin's price....in what way, I can only speculate.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Price Jumps on Trump Victory
Post by: audaciousbeing on January 22, 2017, 10:04:41 PM
Until we accept that bitcoin is a volatile currency that will respond to any news that have the possibility of affecting it the better and its not about Trump, if Hillary had won the election it would have been the same thing and we will be here and the thread will still be here but now carrying different name. If today something happens in Russia I am sure we will either have a surge to the negative or to the positive so its not actually about the person, its about bitcoin itself.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Price Jumps on Trump Victory
Post by: dearbesz1219 on January 26, 2017, 06:44:39 AM
then why Bitcoin price has fallen significantly in a few months after the election? Logic and the link between these two things there. Trump does not affect the Bitcoin

You are definitely correct. It doesn't meant the new President now of the U.S MR. TRUMP will affect bitcoin to increase it. No, its not like that, as you can see after the election, there's nothing change in the flow of industry in bitcoin world actually. Which means it does not affect at all.