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Title: Do you support the Bitcoin unlimited version
Post by: nicemycoin on November 24, 2016, 11:52:21 AM
As I seen in the Chinese community,many people are talking about SW and BU in the Wechat Groups,But have no consensus yet.

Antpool support the BU and try to persuade others accepte their views,for most of them don't know what's the international bitcoin community views.

Is there anybody else like to Join the Wechat group and tell them some more thruth.or just post here,I will translate it to Chinese.


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You can join the debate by adding me on Wechat,I will invite you join the Group then.



You guys don't know BU at all?

Sorry for my negligence.

BU=Bitcoin unlimited version(Miners can decide the block size,That is to say ,it can be any size)
It should be a hardfork,and activated by about 75% miner's consensus.but it seems only a few miners support it,anyway, if antpool turn to support it publicly,the situation will be complicated.


Title: Re: Do you support the Bitcoin unlimited version
Post by: WhiteSkinnedFREAK on November 24, 2016, 06:56:46 PM
Anymore information I can have to learn abut this?

Can't find anything about the unlimited version, have no idea what it is


Title: Re: Do you support the Bitcoin unlimited version
Post by: Dahhi on November 24, 2016, 07:27:01 PM
I was just about to ask the same question. OP, could you explain more about Bitcoin unlimited? Thanks.


Title: Re: Do you support the Bitcoin unlimited version
Post by: nicemycoin on November 25, 2016, 01:21:14 AM
I was just about to ask the same question. OP, could you explain more about Bitcoin unlimited? Thanks.
You guys don't know BU at all?

Sorry for my negligence.

BU=Bitcoin unlimited version(Miners can decide the block size,That is to say ,it can be any size)
It should be a hardfork,and activated by about 75% miner's consensus.but it seems only a few miners support it,anyway, if antpool turn to support it publicly,the situation will be complicated.


Title: Re: Do you support the Bitcoin unlimited version
Post by: michellee on November 25, 2016, 01:48:48 AM
is it really bitcoin have unlimited version? i don't think it will be unlimited because all sources has limited for use and even in internet itself, but if its really true then it will be good so miners still can mining bitcoin although the diff will be increase.


Title: Re: Do you support the Bitcoin unlimited version
Post by: nicemycoin on November 29, 2016, 12:35:19 PM
is it really bitcoin have unlimited version? i don't think it will be unlimited because all sources has limited for use and even in internet itself, but if its really true then it will be good so miners still can mining bitcoin although the diff will be increase.
Of course,there is.


Title: Re: Do you support the Bitcoin unlimited version
Post by: raphma on November 29, 2016, 12:53:47 PM
is it really bitcoin have unlimited version? i don't think it will be unlimited because all sources has limited for use and even in internet itself, but if its really true then it will be good so miners still can mining bitcoin although the diff will be increase.
unlimited version is just a name...
still "limited" to an X amount of blocks(dont remember the exact number.. too lazy to open marketcap now lol), still have halvings etc etc etc.

the only thing "unlimited" is the size of the block, which will be decided by the miner.


Title: Re: Do you support the Bitcoin unlimited version
Post by: nicemycoin on November 30, 2016, 12:58:48 PM
is it really bitcoin have unlimited version? i don't think it will be unlimited because all sources has limited for use and even in internet itself, but if its really true then it will be good so miners still can mining bitcoin although the diff will be increase.
unlimited version is just a name...
still "limited" to an X amount of blocks(dont remember the exact number.. too lazy to open marketcap now lol), still have halvings etc etc etc.

the only thing "unlimited" is the size of the block, which will be decided by the miner.
Yes,you are right.


Title: Re: Do you support the Bitcoin unlimited version
Post by: thebatletbet on November 30, 2016, 01:31:35 PM
very bad is bitcoin unlimited
because bitcoin price can very low
so another altcoin can replace position bitcoin in number one rank crypto coin

you can see in dogecoin although dogecoin user is big community but dogecoin price still low because production total dogecoin is very big


Title: Re: Do you support the Bitcoin unlimited version
Post by: housebtc on November 30, 2016, 01:37:56 PM
If you look at those people behind Bitcoin Unlimited you will see they are all self serving people only looking to benefit themselves and again most of them have moved into other coins or the other. They only realise that Bitcoin is the real deal and want to turn it into their baby. Bitcoin Core team have their own issues but you can still see genuineness in their intentions


Title: Re: Do you support the Bitcoin unlimited version
Post by: her1980man on November 30, 2016, 02:11:21 PM
I am just waiting for the day the Chinese force a hardfork, i think its a very possible scenario (unattached to the real reason for a fork).
But with a unlimited blocksize things will only get worse I guess...


Title: Re: Do you support the Bitcoin unlimited version
Post by: spartacusrex on November 30, 2016, 05:42:09 PM
If you look at those people behind Bitcoin Unlimited you will see they are all self serving people only looking to benefit themselves and again most of them have moved into other coins or the other. They only realise that Bitcoin is the real deal and want to turn it into their baby. Bitcoin Core team have their own issues but you can still see genuineness in their intentions

Bitcoin Unlimited is a relatively easy concept. Anyone could code it.. so you don't really need a dedicated dev team. It's the idea that matters.

A BU node has 2 parameters that the miner can specify.

'max-build-size' and 'see-if-it-works-size'. 'see-if-it-works-size' is the bigger and it is meant to see if the rest of the network will accept a block before you do as well.

When they receive a block they check the size and..

1) If the size is less than or equal to the 'max-block-size' they have specified for themselves, they start building on it AND forward it to the network.

2) If the size is greater than their 'max-build size' but LESS than the 'see-if-it-works-size' they have specified for themselves, they ONLY forward it to the network (but don't build on it - until a majority of the network is working on it).

3) If it is more than both the 'max-build-size' and the 'see-if-it-works-size' they don't build AND don't forward it (ignore it completely).

That's it. (basically)

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Do I support it.. almost. I like the idea of a decentralised mechanism for determining the block size, but this way may cause issues.. can we be trusted to NOT fuck this up.. ?  ;) (And you have to be pretty bad ass to tell #GMAX to stick it.)


Title: Re: Do you support the Bitcoin unlimited version
Post by: nicemycoin on December 01, 2016, 04:27:42 AM
I am just waiting for the day the Chinese force a hardfork, i think its a very possible scenario (unattached to the real reason for a fork).
But with a unlimited blocksize things will only get worse I guess...
Do you like a hard fork? Maybe we could pick up some cheap bitcoins by that time.


Title: Re: Do you support the Bitcoin unlimited version
Post by: RealPhotoshoper on December 01, 2016, 04:46:04 AM
very bad is bitcoin unlimited
because bitcoin price can very low
so another altcoin can replace position bitcoin in number one rank crypto coin

you can see in dogecoin although dogecoin user is big community but dogecoin price still low because production total dogecoin is very big
bitcoin unlimited version doesn't mean the supply will be unlimited available.
i agree that the name of "bitcoin unlimited version" itself a little bit misleading.
so maybe anyone can make this things more clear for a non-bitcoin technical savvy? what the point of having unlimited block size?


Title: Re: Do you support the Bitcoin unlimited version
Post by: jbreher on December 01, 2016, 06:52:24 AM
A lot of confusion on this issue. Perhaps instead of propagating false 'information', you may wish to check the FAQ: https://www.bitcoinunlimited.info/faq (https://www.bitcoinunlimited.info/faq)

BU is merely an alternative client. All BU coins are coins on the main Bitcoin blockchain. BU does not mine alt coins - it mines Bitcoins. The central innovation of BU is to allow the maxblocksize to be set by emergent consensus of the network, rather than by decree of a handful of developers.