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Title: Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: PascalCoin on November 26, 2016, 12:13:09 AM
That's all... Claim Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto


Title: Re: Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: Carlton Banks on November 26, 2016, 12:50:25 AM
Nobel prize is tainted by war criminals winning the Peace prize, etc.

Invoke the Satoshi prize for innovation IMO


Title: Re: Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: mbbct01 on November 26, 2016, 01:09:36 AM
But who would claim it yes give satoshi a Nobel prize let's start an online petition


Title: Re: Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on November 26, 2016, 01:29:10 AM
But who would claim it yes give satoshi a Nobel prize let's start an online petition
That won't do diddly-shit.  Online petitions are like group masturbation parties.

Now I have to say, most Nobel Prizes (except for the stupid peace prize, and probably Economics too) are given for achievements that are absolute breakthroughs.  From what I understand, the blockchain concept is revolutionary but I don't think bitcoin or any other blockchain-based thing has proven itself to be as useful as many masturbators here think.  So far, bitcoin hasn't changed humanity in any appreciable way--yes, the fanboys' mouths are constantly a-frothing, but it's nothing like the invention of the internet or penicillin.

And then there's the issue of not knowing who Satoshi is...

Edit:  I am admittedly a recluse who doesn't watch TV.  Bob Dylan won a Nobel prize???  That's just bizarre.

And I disagree about the worthless bauble, at least for the sciences.  Anything that motivates the advancement of physics and medicine is just fine by me.  Now, Academy awards are useless.  The Nobel in Peace is for metaphorical fudge-packers.  But the science I support.


Title: Re: Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: European Central Bank on November 26, 2016, 01:35:16 AM
Now I have to say, most Nobel Prizes (except for the stupid peace prize, and probably Economics too) are given for achievements that are absolute breakthroughs.  From what I understand, the blockchain concept is revolutionary but I don't think bitcoin or any other blockchain-based thing has proven itself to be as useful as many masturbators here think. 

the whole concept is still way less than ten years old. of course the potential still hasn't been digested in full yet. the concepts that bitcoin introduced absolutely will change a huge amount of of things. we haven't even started to warm up.

way too early for a nobel prize and it's a worthless bauble anyway.



Title: Re: Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: Shiroslullaby on November 26, 2016, 01:49:45 AM
If Bob Dylan can win a prize for his songs, why not.
But yeah I agree that the prize has been kind of tainted. Obama winning the Nobel Peace Prize is actually kind of disgusting.


Title: Re: Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: PascalCoin on November 26, 2016, 01:52:59 AM

And then there's the issue of not knowing who Satoshi is...

That's not an issue... Bob Dylan won the nobel prize... and... LOL


Title: Re: Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: crwth on November 26, 2016, 02:30:24 AM
We know the the blockchain technology is the source why Bitcoin is really good. It was just the first cryptocurrency to adopt it. Unless they have really made an impact here in our world with real applications (not saying that it is not applied yet) it needs to make an impact to the whole world. To have a nobel prize award, you need to make a great impact towards mankind. Blockchain is really revolutionary but it's still at its infancy. There are a lot of things yet to be discovered and improved.


Title: Re: Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: javierfjavier on November 26, 2016, 02:40:46 AM
But who would claim it yes give satoshi a Nobel prize let's start an online petition
That won't do diddly-shit.  Online petitions are like group masturbation parties...

Hahaha you made my day  ;D ;D

That, and the peace one are the most overrated nobels. I would give Satoshi a Turing Prize. Bitcoin isn't a great economical advance, not yet. In the future? Who knows.

But it is a beautiful piece of code.


Title: Re: Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: Vaskiy on November 26, 2016, 02:48:40 AM
Rather than peace he can be given the Nobel prize for innovation as described in one of the quote. No one had come with such a unique idea by which people can get the ease of access and restrict unnecessary tension of money loss or stolen also it has given every user the banking freedom.


Title: Re: Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: ipanks on November 26, 2016, 03:12:38 AM
i think satoshi nakamoto is deserve to receive a nobel prize for economic section because he is make a new technology which can make people gets the benefit and make people's life more easy and simple and beside of this, he can help people to seek the new jobs while people can get it for free.


Title: Re: Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: jyakulis on November 26, 2016, 03:20:18 AM
Would a Nobel prize help you get poon?

If not then :yawn:


Title: Re: Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: Adbitco on November 26, 2016, 03:32:32 AM
Yes, he should be recognized for his innovation but he himself will have to reveal his identity then because nobel prize is not awarded anonymously nor posthumously I guess.


Title: Re: Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: ardentvolcanoes on November 26, 2016, 04:34:26 AM
but the thing is who would claim the prize for him as if he is going to reveal in public ;D but yes he deserved to be awarded this kind of recognition for his contribution to the economics no doubt.


Title: Re: Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: pooya87 on November 26, 2016, 04:52:22 AM
there is a couple of things that come to mind
- if they are going to give novel prize the wouldn't do it for "bitcoin" they would give it for "blockchain" because that is the revolutionary technology which is being used more not bitcoin and the questions rises that was it Satoshi who came up with blockchain idea or was it some other coin before it (i am a bit unsure about the history before bitcoin)
- also shouldn't there be someone who receives the prize! we don't know who satoshi is or if he is alive!


Title: Re: Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: BitcoinBarrel on November 26, 2016, 05:05:24 AM
We have to know who Satoshi is first before we can give him an award ;D


Title: Re: Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: btccashacc on November 26, 2016, 05:28:27 AM
We have to know who Satoshi is first before we can give him an award ;D
Before he received his awards, FBI might caught him.

there is a couple of things that come to mind
- if they are going to give novel prize the wouldn't do it for "bitcoin" they would give it for "blockchain" because that is the revolutionary technology which is being used more not bitcoin and the questions rises that was it Satoshi who came up with blockchain idea or was it some other coin before it (i am a bit unsure about the history before bitcoin)
- also shouldn't there be someone who receives the prize! we don't know who satoshi is or if he is alive!
Interesting, like you said the blockchain should receive the awards, but i really curious about who invented blockchain ?? i mean the concept for the first time, i google it and i found that something similar to blockchain was in a research paper by Haber and Stornetta in 1991, it means Haber and Stornetta should receive the awards, isn't it??? correct me if i am wrong though i completly agree with you that they would give the award for those who inventing blockhain.


Title: Re: Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: pooya87 on November 26, 2016, 05:37:00 AM
We have to know who Satoshi is first before we can give him an award ;D
Before he received his awards, FBI might caught him.

there is a couple of things that come to mind
- if they are going to give novel prize the wouldn't do it for "bitcoin" they would give it for "blockchain" because that is the revolutionary technology which is being used more not bitcoin and the questions rises that was it Satoshi who came up with blockchain idea or was it some other coin before it (i am a bit unsure about the history before bitcoin)
- also shouldn't there be someone who receives the prize! we don't know who satoshi is or if he is alive!
Interesting, like you said the blockchain should receive the awards, but i really curious about who invented blockchain ?? i mean the concept for the first time, i google it and i found that something similar to blockchain was in a research paper by Haber and Stornetta in 1991, it means Haber and Stornetta should receive the awards, isn't it??? correct me if i am wrong though i completly agree with you that they would give the award for those who inventing blockhain.

well i am not saying that whoever came up with the idea deserves the prize but instead i believe it depends on the success of their idea. for example i know that there were crypto currencies before bitcoin but they were all small and experimental ideas. and bitcoin is the first thing that became this big and popular so that has to count for something right.


Title: Re: Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: arcanaaerobics on November 26, 2016, 05:52:56 AM
What's the problem with Bob Dylan?


About the skepticism about blockchain, a lot of banks are making studies with this tech and for sure all people that have a bank account or send money via banks will use this tech, nowadays they use an old technology, blockchain will replace it.

Why not a Nobel for Satoshi? That's a new era.

btw I'm not talking about bitcoin.


Title: Re: Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: MingLee on November 26, 2016, 05:54:54 AM
Interesting idea, however I doubt there would be anyone actually there to receive the prize, and even then it's even more unlikely that they would actually award Satoshi the prize. There are far """better""" choices, in their opinions, than someone who disrupts the status quo of the economic systems, and to be frank, they would likely put him at the bottom of the barrel.


Title: Re: Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: davis196 on November 26, 2016, 07:17:19 AM
That's all... Claim Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto

This is impossible.Satoshi will never disclose himself and they will never

give him a nobel prize.He doesn`t need a nobel prize actually. ;D


Title: Re: Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: Dudeperfect on November 26, 2016, 07:47:48 AM
I can surely say that it’s going to be one of the controversial issues if Satoshi receives Nobel Prize in economics. We will also face some incidents in bitcoin as well as crypto world and there is no need to say that at least 10+ people will come up with the claim of being satoshi nakamoto. No one knows, satoshi exists or not and thus it’s going to be a difficult decision for Nobel committee to take such risk.


Title: Re: Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: BingoDog on November 26, 2016, 07:53:11 AM
This could be very tricky. I.mean no one realy knows if Satoshi Nakamoto realy exists and if this is a real name. How could they identify him? And I don't think so that at this moment it's possible that someone gets Nobel for cryptocurrencies because this price is stil very conservative.


Title: Re: Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: salmanahmedone on November 26, 2016, 10:05:22 AM
We have to know who Satoshi is first before we can give him an award ;D
Before he received his awards, FBI might caught him.

there is a couple of things that come to mind
- if they are going to give novel prize the wouldn't do it for "bitcoin" they would give it for "blockchain" because that is the revolutionary technology which is being used more not bitcoin and the questions rises that was it Satoshi who came up with blockchain idea or was it some other coin before it (i am a bit unsure about the history before bitcoin)
- also shouldn't there be someone who receives the prize! we don't know who satoshi is or if he is alive!
Interesting, like you said the blockchain should receive the awards, but i really curious about who invented blockchain ?? i mean the concept for the first time, i google it and i found that something similar to blockchain was in a research paper by Haber and Stornetta in 1991, it means Haber and Stornetta should receive the awards, isn't it??? correct me if i am wrong though i completly agree with you that they would give the award for those who inventing blockhain.

well i am not saying that whoever came up with the idea deserves the prize but instead i believe it depends on the success of their idea. for example i know that there were crypto currencies before bitcoin but they were all small and experimental ideas. and bitcoin is the first thing that became this big and popular so that has to count for something right.

Why don't we share the nobel prize with people/person/team involved in creating blockchain as well as bitcoin? Correct me if I am wrong, Bitcoin is the longest and successful experiment by far that has shown the world what blockchain can do.



Title: Re: Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: zahra4577 on November 26, 2016, 10:26:34 AM
That's all... Claim Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto
No doubt Satoshi has done greatest job by inventing this beautiful first cryptocurruncy but what good has it brought to world economy is a debatable issue.So instead of Nobel for economy, he should be given Nobel in the field of science


Title: Re: Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: BTCLovingDude on November 26, 2016, 10:33:33 AM
That's all... Claim Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto

if anyone deserves a Nobel prize Satoshi Nakamoto is the one for it. but they usually give these things away to people who had a great influence on their field and although bitcoin and blockchain technology is good and everyone is interested in it from investors to buy bitcoin and bankers to adapt it for their altcoins; but it is not yet that big to deserve a Nobel prize in my opinion.


Title: Re: Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: ivanst776 on November 26, 2016, 10:44:40 AM
That's all... Claim Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto

This is a good idea (I think I have seen a similar thread in the past) but who will get this since Satoshi Nakamoto "doesn't" exists and I don't think he/they will go in public in the future.

And since we don't know who is Satoshi to take the prize I doubt they will award bitcoin, but if they do it would be awesome for the cryptocurrency world.


Title: Re: Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: Carlton Banks on November 26, 2016, 11:38:26 AM
This is impossible.Satoshi will never disclose himself and they will never

give him a nobel prize.He doesn`t need a nobel prize actually. ;D

Yep. Who needs a new paperweight when you have 1,000,000 BTC? :D


Title: Re: Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: Gahs on November 26, 2016, 01:00:42 PM
That's all... Claim Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto


It would have been a good idea assuming Satoshi would actually show up to receive his prize ::)


Title: Re: Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: ~Bitcoin~ on November 26, 2016, 01:38:55 PM
Satoshi have been already praised by community for what he have done for common people that is giving complete financial freedom. All this Nobel prize or Hero of the year will not be enough to award him for what he have done. Very big bitcoin community loves him and all is thankful to him of not disclosing himself to take credit of being inventor of bitcoin.


Title: Re: Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: clickerz on November 26, 2016, 02:28:38 PM
It is a BIG YES for me. He is genius, creating opportunity from nothing and now it become a billion dollar cryptocurrency. He made a unique financial ecosystem where freedom is not an issue. He deserved the award.


Title: Re: Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: Sir Alpha_goy on November 26, 2016, 02:31:45 PM
Nobel prize is tainted by war criminals winning the Peace prize, etc.

Invoke the Satoshi prize for innovation IMO

Given the rate at which HFT bots steal investors hard earned money I would say it fits Bitcoin perfectly.

But yeah innovation.....

 ::)


Title: Re: Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: energycr on November 26, 2016, 02:40:34 PM
It is funny because do you think he will pull a Bob Dillon and not accept it then he has five years to claim it. :D


Title: Re: Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: piloder on November 26, 2016, 04:30:55 PM
Even if Nobel prize committee decide to give Economic Nobel prize to satoshi nakamoto (founder of bitcoin), i highly doubt he will be there to take that prize as he wants to remain anonymous and which is also good for bitcoin holders because when he will be exposed, there may be lot more panic in bitcoin market which can dump its price really fast.  


Title: Re: Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: salmanahmedone on November 27, 2016, 05:29:18 AM
Even if Nobel prize committee decide to give Economic Nobel prize to satoshi nakamoto (founder of bitcoin), i highly doubt he will be there to take that prize as he wants to remain anonymous and which is also good for bitcoin holders because when he will be exposed, there may be lot more panic in bitcoin market which can dump its price really fast.  

And if we can identify Satoshi Nakamoto, perhaps we should give the prize to the Bitcoin Foundation in the name of Satoshi Nakamoto. That would not create any panic in the bitcoin world i guess.


Title: Re: Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: babyjesusftw1 on November 27, 2016, 06:55:05 AM
He probably deserves the award. Decentralized currencies are the wave of the future! Good old supply and demand determine price rather than government activities and corruption.


Title: Re: Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: requester on November 27, 2016, 07:01:24 AM
Yes he will remain as a remarkable person for inventing such an awesome technology.
Ge definitely deserves a novel price but it might not be Economic Novel price but i would rather support to give him Nobel price for innovative technology.


Title: Re: Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: Xester on November 27, 2016, 07:06:14 AM
It is a BIG YES for me. He is genius, creating opportunity from nothing and now it become a billion dollar cryptocurrency. He made a unique financial ecosystem where freedom is not an issue. He deserved the award.
He is indeed deserving of such award. His innovation has changed thousands of life. Provided more home based employment that pays bitcoin. The only problem is that he is anonymous and if someone claims to be him it is hard to determine. And so the only thing we can awards him is our thanks.


Title: Re: Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: PokerFace3 on November 27, 2016, 07:07:03 AM
Instead of this why not bitcoin foundation consider to start a global award system based on Satoshi's 1 million hoarding if possible. I mean to say Satoshi's initial mining rewards could be used for philanthropy purposes. (I am sorry if it was already discussed under other topics)

Just imagine a new global philanthropy system which will reward similar to Nobel prices but in bitcoins. Every year bitcoin will gain reasonable media coverage.

I too will vote for Satoshi for a Nobel prize for him. I second this idea as he must deserve that indeed.


Title: Re: Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: Catlonid on November 27, 2016, 11:02:24 AM
I think if this is the case then bitcoin will be known throughout the world and make a lot of people joined forces to search for and collect bitcoin. I hope whatever happen, the price of the bitcoin still stable dan not go down.


Title: Re: Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: Kprawn on November 27, 2016, 11:49:10 AM
What would the point be? Satoshi Nakamoto might not be who we think it is. It might be a group of people or even a whole secret agency. We

know who created SHA, why not Bitcoin? Satoshi might be a serial killer or a Paedophile or even a group of them... just imagine the

embarrassment, if a Nobel prize is given to Satoshi and it turns out that he or she is someone sinister. Before I get crucified, I am not saying

that he/she or they are bad, but what if they were.  ???


Title: Re: Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: Carlton Banks on November 27, 2016, 12:01:15 PM
What would the point be? Satoshi Nakamoto might not be who we think it is. It might be a group of people or even a whole secret agency. We

know who created SHA, why not Bitcoin? Satoshi might be a serial killer or a Paedophile or even a group of them... just imagine the

embarrassment, if a Nobel prize is given to Satoshi and it turns out that he or she is someone sinister. Before I get crucified, I am not saying

that he/she or they are bad, but what if they were.  ???

I agree altogether. If Satoshi could be literally anyone, then we should be behaving like that's literally the case, and that includes the whole range of everyone, including people we would prefer he were not.


Title: Re: Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: ashiqdey on November 27, 2016, 12:54:14 PM
Yes he deserves that nobel prize because he had done enough and more. He had started a new era of currency which modern era definitely needs so some country are moving to digital money.


Title: Re: Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: Robertqueen2 on November 27, 2016, 01:03:18 PM
That's all... Claim Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto
We might attend that day when Nobel prize goes for him, but I think that day is far, because blockchain technology still at the start of the road, a lot of banks and governments around the world are interested in this technology, blockchain will change the economic world for better in the coming years.


Title: Re: Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: BitcoinHodler on November 27, 2016, 01:11:52 PM
What would the point be? Satoshi Nakamoto might not be who we think it is. It might be a group of people or even a whole secret agency. We

know who created SHA, why not Bitcoin? Satoshi might be a serial killer or a Paedophile or even a group of them... just imagine the

embarrassment, if a Nobel prize is given to Satoshi and it turns out that he or she is someone sinister. Before I get crucified, I am not saying

that he/she or they are bad, but what if they were.  ???

your theories about satoshi doesn't make any sense.
bitcoin code is obviously written by an experienced coder and people knew him back then people like Hal Finney were even in contact with him, characters like what you mentioned can not become a good coder.


Title: Re: Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: bryant.coleman on November 27, 2016, 03:19:39 PM
While the proposal is good, I don't think that it can be put to practise. First of all, we don't know anything about the real identity of Satoshi Nakamoto. We don't even know whether he is dead or alive. Also, what if "Satoshi Nakamoto" is a group of individuals rather than a single person? And another complexity is that if the real identity is known, then there will be legal issues (related to the usage of Bitcoin in the dark markets).


Title: Re: Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: Mastsetad on November 27, 2016, 03:24:57 PM
That's all... Claim Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto

I wonder why they would give a Nobel Prize to someone for doing something on internet which does not have any physical existence nor much usage which would prove it able enough to get that price, i'm not sure if that is even possible, and even if they announce this, who will get it? Would satoshi appear for this thing in front of the world?


Title: Re: Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: Carlton Banks on November 27, 2016, 03:30:28 PM
What would the point be? Satoshi Nakamoto might not be who we think it is. It might be a group of people or even a whole secret agency. We

know who created SHA, why not Bitcoin? Satoshi might be a serial killer or a Paedophile or even a group of them... just imagine the

embarrassment, if a Nobel prize is given to Satoshi and it turns out that he or she is someone sinister. Before I get crucified, I am not saying

that he/she or they are bad, but what if they were.  ???

your theories about satoshi doesn't make any sense.
bitcoin code is obviously written by an experienced coder and people knew him back then people like Hal Finney were even in contact with him, characters like what you mentioned can not become a good coder.

No, there's absolutely nothing known about Satoshi, other than what he wrote on this forum (and previously on cryptography mailing list). And it was only ever about Bitcoin, you simply cannot deduce anything else about him, other than that he was one or more humans.

Also, it's well established that he almost certainly was not an experienced coder, or at least he spent a lot of effort to give the impression he was not. Every experienced coder that has examined the way the 0.1 Bitcoin codebase was structured agrees on that, only an experienced coder that was trying to disguise how experienced they were would have structured Bitcoin 0.1 the way Satoshi did it.


Title: Re: Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: Tyrantt on November 27, 2016, 03:32:00 PM
While the proposal is good, I don't think that it can be put to practise. First of all, we don't know anything about the real identity of Satoshi Nakamoto. We don't even know whether he is dead or alive. Also, what if "Satoshi Nakamoto" is a group of individuals rather than a single person? And another complexity is that if the real identity is known, then there will be legal issues (related to the usage of Bitcoin in the dark markets).

Yeap, that was my first thought... Who do they give it to? We know nothing about the creator of bitcoin, only that he's called Satoshi Nakamoto and that can be a pseudonym, and as you said, considering the bitcoins involvment in darkweb and criminal, I don't think he will ever be reveal himself to the public. Maybe they can just announce the winner of the price but not necessarily hand him the prize.


Title: Re: Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: Daniel91 on November 27, 2016, 03:33:47 PM
That's all... Claim Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto

Very interesting idea...but it will never happen :)
Why?
First, anonymous people can never receive this award.
Second, Bitcoin is still not part of mainstream.
Third, official financial and banking sector are against bitcoin.



Title: Re: Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: Tyrantt on November 27, 2016, 03:37:01 PM
What would the point be? Satoshi Nakamoto might not be who we think it is. It might be a group of people or even a whole secret agency. We

know who created SHA, why not Bitcoin? Satoshi might be a serial killer or a Paedophile or even a group of them... just imagine the

embarrassment, if a Nobel prize is given to Satoshi and it turns out that he or she is someone sinister. Before I get crucified, I am not saying

that he/she or they are bad, but what if they were.  ???

your theories about satoshi doesn't make any sense.
bitcoin code is obviously written by an experienced coder and people knew him back then people like Hal Finney were even in contact with him, characters like what you mentioned can not become a good coder.

No, there's absolutely nothing known about Satoshi, other than what he wrote on this forum (and previously on cryptography mailing list). And it was only ever about Bitcoin, you simply cannot deduce anything else about him, other than that he was one or more humans.

Also, it's well established that he almost certainly was not an experienced coder, or at least he spent a lot of effort to give the impression he was not. Every experienced coder that has examined the way the 0.1 Bitcoin codebase was structured agrees on that, only an experienced coder that was trying to disguise how experienced they were would have structured Bitcoin 0.1 the way Satoshi did it.


Are there any archived posts on this forum from Satoshi?

hm, looks like he was really trying to hide his trails by pretending that he was a inexperienced coder or even if he really wasn't, he probably had a vision, an idea and tried to learn coding quickly in order to fulfill that idea, that's probably why it's open sourced, so that many more experienced coder can improve what he started.

I don't really know, but what I do know is that knowing the identity of bitcoin creator(s) is the one thing I one to know before I die.


Title: Re: Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: CyberKuro on November 27, 2016, 04:00:44 PM
Now I have to say, most Nobel Prizes (except for the stupid peace prize, and probably Economics too) are given for achievements that are absolute breakthroughs.  From what I understand, the blockchain concept is revolutionary but I don't think bitcoin or any other blockchain-based thing has proven itself to be as useful as many masturbators here think. 

the whole concept is still way less than ten years old. of course the potential still hasn't been digested in full yet. the concepts that bitcoin introduced absolutely will change a huge amount of of things. we haven't even started to warm up.

way too early for a nobel prize and it's a worthless bauble anyway.


I like it : 'we haven't even started to warm up"  ;D. If blockchain technology and bitcoin could last at least 20 years, it's gonna be huge digital gold and has mass adoption. I think Mr. Satoshi deserved to get that nobel even not given directly to him because bitcoin is a breakthrough to economic system.


Title: Re: Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: Juggy777 on November 27, 2016, 04:10:41 PM
That's all... Claim Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto
Its a great idea why not he deserves one. If war criminal can get it. I think the community needs to get behind him, but does any one who is he and where is he. I hope he gets it, will be a big thing for the Bitcoin community.


Title: Re: Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: Sithara007 on November 27, 2016, 05:12:19 PM
Right now, the Nobel prices are decided based on political consideration rather than merit. We, as Bitcoin users know the worth of the crypto-currency. And all of us are thankful to Satoshi, for creating such a currency. We don't need a certification from the Nobel council to confirm it.


Title: Re: Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: Victorycoin on November 27, 2016, 05:38:52 PM
We know the the blockchain technology is the source why Bitcoin is really good. It was just the first cryptocurrency to adopt it. Unless they have really made an impact here in our world with real applications (not saying that it is not applied yet) it needs to make an impact to the whole world. To have a nobel prize award, you need to make a great impact towards mankind. Blockchain is really revolutionary but it's still at its infancy. There are a lot of things yet to be discovered and improved.
Looks like you have not been looking aright, because Satoshi's invention, blockchain is revolutionary. It has brought us to a frontier for trust and security like none before it and that cuts across every facet of life and not just a money thing. A lot of sectors are currently looking in on how to adopt this discovery, including the banks. People might be divided about bitcoin, but many more do agree on blockchain.

Satoshi's blockchain is life changing and is deserving of a Noble Prize award. Only problem is that he went under after coming up with such an amazing discovery, though that can be understood from the point of view of the government over bitcoin. I think if he had not gone under, the authorities  would have compelled him to abort bitcoin, because it does not speak their mind.


Title: Re: Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: sportis on November 29, 2016, 07:51:05 AM
    Why not? I think it's worth getting Satoshi Nakamoto the Nobel prize. I don't know if it will be on the economics sector or innovation. But its contribution to the achievement of a completely different vision on economic transactions globally, that is blockchain technology,  is something that should not be passed unnoticed by the critics of Nobel prizes. On the other hand there is an issue with Nakamoto identity. Is he a real person or not?


Title: Re: Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: beerlover on December 01, 2016, 09:31:47 PM
Yes he deserves that nobel prize because he had done enough and more. He had started a new era of currency which modern era definitely needs so some country are moving to digital money.
Yes I am also agree with you, he really deserve to receive the noble price, I will really like to attend that program when he will receive noble price, but I think it can only be possible if governments will consider bitcoin as legal currency.


Title: Re: Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: avikz on December 02, 2016, 07:39:25 AM
I would have been very happy if Mr nakamoto win Nobel Prize for life changing innovation. Bitcoin is truly a life changing innovation that has changed many lives across the globe.



Title: Re: Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: just_Alice on December 02, 2016, 02:35:44 PM
That's all... Claim Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto

That's a good idea, he definitely deserves it. The thing is, however, he won't disclose his identity even for receiving the Nobel Prize, in my opinion. He has too much to hide from the stupid tax agencies which will try to put him in jail for "tax evasion". I know they will be not right in doing that but I'm sure they will try anyway.


Title: Re: Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: BlackPanda on December 02, 2016, 02:50:53 PM
This will be one of the awards unique in the world. will appear a new award that can change the world thinking about bitcoin. This is revolutionary.  ;D


Title: Re: Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: chesatochi on December 02, 2016, 04:05:31 PM
That's all... Claim Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto

That's a good idea, he definitely deserves it. The thing is, however, he won't disclose his identity even for receiving the Nobel Prize, in my opinion. He has too much to hide from the stupid tax agencies which will try to put him in jail for "tax evasion". I know they will be not right in doing that but I'm sure they will try anyway.

I agree with you, is better to stay anonymous and I think he should know even before to try to release his technology. He could receive the Nobel price for innovation even if stay anonymous from the mainstream ;)


Title: Re: Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: iamryanokeefe on December 02, 2016, 05:56:03 PM
If Bob Dylan can win a prize for his songs, why not.
But yeah I agree that the prize has been kind of tainted. Obama winning the Nobel Peace Prize is actually kind of disgusting.
Exactly, Satoshi can win and not show up. It's allowed


Title: Re: Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: eternalgloom on December 02, 2016, 06:02:51 PM
If Bob Dylan can win a prize for his songs, why not.
But yeah I agree that the prize has been kind of tainted. Obama winning the Nobel Peace Prize is actually kind of disgusting.
Exactly, Satoshi can win and not show up. It's allowed
It would make a really big statement if Satoshi did win a Nobel Prize, I think it's safe to say that the price of Bitcoin would rize after that news comes out.

But I don't think it's very likely that they would choose him.


Title: Re: Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: richmcrich on December 04, 2016, 01:07:54 PM
What would the point be? Satoshi Nakamoto might not be who we think it is. It might be a group of people or even a whole secret agency. We

know who created SHA, why not Bitcoin? Satoshi might be a serial killer or a Paedophile or even a group of them... just imagine the

embarrassment, if a Nobel prize is given to Satoshi and it turns out that he or she is someone sinister. Before I get crucified, I am not saying

that he/she or they are bad, but what if they were.  ???

I agree altogether. If Satoshi could be literally anyone, then we should be behaving like that's literally the case, and that includes the whole range of everyone, including people we would prefer he were not.
I think satoshi will disclose himself once the governments will recognize bitcoin either as currency or digital asset, other wise he is not going to disclose himself. To me he will really deserve noble price when the number of bitcoin users will increase too much and when governments will admit his invention and contribution in the world of economy.


Title: Re: Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: staff_1307 on December 04, 2016, 09:48:47 PM
I think that a man as created quite a strong currency, the Economic deserves the Nobel Prize.


Title: Re: Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: xuan87 on December 04, 2016, 11:15:20 PM
I think Satoshi is deserve to win an Economic Nobel Prize, he indeed created a new type of currency which is digital currency and help a lot of people on global transaction, despite his creation is misused by some people i think he still deserve to take the trophy


Title: Re: Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: ufaiz50 on December 05, 2016, 12:19:41 AM
i think satoshi nakamoto is deserve to receive a nobel prize for economic section because he is make a new technology which can make people gets the benefit and make people's life more easy and simple and beside of this, he can help people to seek the new jobs while people can get it for free.
That Satoshi Nakamoto deserves a Nobel Prize is difficult to deny, bitcoin as a currency and an efficient payment means is just the tip of the iceberg. The disruptively innovative nature of Bitcoin lies in the possibility of decentralized trustless agreements and digital contracts that can be digitized, securely verified and stored, and transferred instantaneously from one party to another.


Title: Re: Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: fortunecrypto on December 05, 2016, 03:31:12 AM
Why not we are all here because of satoshi Nakamoto and it is just right that he get honored by no less than Nobel  Prize what he has done has changes the face of transacting online and offline but unfortunately who will theyhandedit over until we don't know where he is or if he is part of any groups.


Title: Re: Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: carlisle1 on December 05, 2016, 05:48:20 AM
yeah deserve to win an Economic Nobel Prize award because without his creation we are not in this community and we will never find another way to keep our money from high taxes ;D but in what way he will receive and get the award when he doesn't want to reveal his identity to the other people is there any person who will represent him and get the award for him?.


Title: Re: Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: stomachgrowls on December 05, 2016, 06:18:55 AM
What would the point be? Satoshi Nakamoto might not be who we think it is. It might be a group of people or even a whole secret agency. We

know who created SHA, why not Bitcoin? Satoshi might be a serial killer or a Paedophile or even a group of them... just imagine the

embarrassment, if a Nobel prize is given to Satoshi and it turns out that he or she is someone sinister. Before I get crucified, I am not saying

that he/she or they are bad, but what if they were.  ???

I agree altogether. If Satoshi could be literally anyone, then we should be behaving like that's literally the case, and that includes the whole range of everyone, including people we would prefer he were not.
I think satoshi will disclose himself once the governments will recognize bitcoin either as currency or digital asset, other wise he is not going to disclose himself. To me he will really deserve noble price when the number of bitcoin users will increase too much and when governments will admit his invention and contribution in the world of economy.
Its possible that he will disclose himself when government accepts his invention but i dont think they will do such decision some countries might see the goodness of bitcoin and some will not therefore theres no unity on such decision and the full adoption would be like just a dream for sure. Satoshi deserve the economic noble prize because of its invention.


Title: Re: Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: audaciousbeing on December 05, 2016, 07:15:34 AM
Nobel prize the way its been portrayed is like the hallmark of achievement of anyone. What I doubt is such will be given to Satoshi without government involvement? And how will that even play out. " someone who wants to distort the world financial system now celebrated with a Nobel" we are not seeing that coming but he could actually get that from free thinkers though. In addition to that, who will claim the award and that is something of concern.


Title: Re: Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: deadsilent on December 05, 2016, 02:24:27 PM
Well, she or he or they deserve that. Bitcoin is the biggest achievement in technology and also for the economy. Bitcoin help people to transact their money with ease, fast, low cost and anonimousjibThe problem is, anyone can claim he/she is Satoshi Nakamoto. We dont even see her/his or their faces. Their anonimous person/people.


Title: Re: Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: Taki on December 05, 2016, 02:44:18 PM
Is that true? I think Satoshi Nakomoto deserved that prize! He created the best thing in the world that helped to many people find some work to themselves or to start their own business. I am one of this person. Week ago I moved to live abroad and today bitcoin is the only way to make money to me.


Title: Re: Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: crazyivan on December 05, 2016, 02:59:23 PM
I d agree with this. Blockchain and Bitcoin ve been the most revolutionary economics achievements in this century. So the man deserves the prize, 100%.


Title: Re: Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: tubexc on December 05, 2016, 03:28:06 PM
That's all... Claim Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto

   Or 007 prize  ;D


Title: Re: Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: Victorycoin on December 06, 2016, 01:42:40 PM
Well, she or he or they deserve that. Bitcoin is the biggest achievement in technology and also for the economy. Bitcoin help people to transact their money with ease, fast, low cost and anonimousjibThe problem is, anyone can claim he/she is Satoshi Nakamoto. We dont even see her/his or their faces. Their anonimous person/people.
The easiest thing certainly won't be for someone to claim he/she is Satoshi Nakamoto, because he/she would be having quite a lot to answer and proves to make and not just to the authorities, but also the academic community. I must add that the authorities cannot be trusted to be happy with him, for exposing their master-slave game plans and might prefer to hide him themselves, so he/she and the community are better off, he/she stays underground.


Title: Re: Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: darklus123 on December 06, 2016, 06:42:56 PM
We have to know who Satoshi is first before we can give him an award ;D

Before Nakamoto could get his award, he might just found dead first lol. Nakamoto is truly a genius geeks in terms of technology but he remain silence until now so probably we could easily assumed that he does not care for that award lol(he cares more of his life)


Title: Re: Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: 20kevin20 on December 06, 2016, 06:56:26 PM
We have to know who Satoshi is first before we can give him an award ;D

Before Nakamoto could get his award, he might just found dead first lol. Nakamoto is truly a genius geeks in terms of technology but he remain silence until now so probably we could easily assumed that he does not care for that award lol(he cares more of his life)

I don't think anybody knows who is the creator of Bitcoin. Probably not even his family. Every business has allies and enemies. In this case, this person/group's enemies are most governments around the world, except if it was created by a government itself and they disguised it into this "Satoshi Nakamoto". Imagine the risks you would have to assume as soon as you would prove that you are the owner of Bitcoin.


Title: Re: Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: darklus123 on December 06, 2016, 07:11:16 PM
We have to know who Satoshi is first before we can give him an award ;D

Before Nakamoto could get his award, he might just found dead first lol. Nakamoto is truly a genius geeks in terms of technology but he remain silence until now so probably we could easily assumed that he does not care for that award lol(he cares more of his life)

I don't think anybody knows who is the creator of Bitcoin. Probably not even his family. Every business has allies and enemies. In this case, this person/group's enemies are most governments around the world, except if it was created by a government itself and they disguised it into this "Satoshi Nakamoto". Imagine the risks you would have to assume as soon as you would prove that you are the owner of Bitcoin.

I am pretty sure that there is really someone who help nakamoto in this journey. I'm pretty sure of that, he may found a team to work with (anonymously) Other thing is that IMO no one owns bitcoin itself but it was founded by someone(nakamoto obviously)


Title: Re: Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: niagrabill on December 06, 2016, 07:43:48 PM
Maybe he will anonymously make another creation like a DAO. He could just tou with the community. I think that would be great.


Title: Re: Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: katrimans on December 06, 2016, 10:21:48 PM
While the proposal is good, I don't think that it can be put to practise. First of all, we don't know anything about the real identity of Satoshi Nakamoto. We don't even know whether he is dead or alive. Also, what if "Satoshi Nakamoto" is a group of individuals rather than a single person? And another complexity is that if the real identity is known, then there will be legal issues (related to the usage of Bitcoin in the dark markets).

Yeap, that was my first thought... Who do they give it to? We know nothing about the creator of bitcoin, only that he's called Satoshi Nakamoto and that can be a pseudonym, and as you said, considering the bitcoins involvment in darkweb and criminal, I don't think he will ever be reveal himself to the public. Maybe they can just announce the winner of the price but not necessarily hand him the prize.
Currently it looks like so but I think that in future when government will recognize bitcoin then may be he will disclose himself to the public, but still not very sure, as he must have worries about his security. And it can only be possible if bitcoin become one of the most popular currencies of the world.


Title: Re: Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: pinkflower on December 07, 2016, 07:14:56 AM
That's all... Claim Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto

Does he really want the recognition? There is a very good reason why he decided to use a pseudonym, you know. Maybe he already knew what the implications are of his creation. And that is to enable the criminals.


Title: Re: Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: Sithara007 on December 07, 2016, 06:25:04 PM
Maybe he already knew what the implications are of his creation. And that is to enable the criminals.

You don't belong here. Perhaps you should migrate to another forum.

The main purpose behind the creation of Bitcoin was not to help the criminals. If you really know how to read and write, then you will be able to find it out using Google or Bing.


Title: Re: Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: deisik on December 07, 2016, 06:36:56 PM
Nobel prize is tainted by war criminals winning the Peace prize, etc.

It doesn't really matter. The Nobel Prize has been tainted right from the start. Alfred Nobel (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Nobel) after whom the prize was named can be considered a war criminal himself since he was deeply involved in the production of armaments (he established more than 90 armaments factories) and most of his wealth came from the arms trade...

In this way, the Nobel Peace Prize is an outrage in the face of humanity in its own right


Title: Re: Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: sherbaz07 on December 07, 2016, 07:15:18 PM
nobel prize are tainted. let him keep away from all this


Title: Re: Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: Junko on December 07, 2016, 07:24:59 PM
The Nobel Prize for anything is a joke. Paul Krugman? Barack Obama? Al Gore? Jimmy Carter? Kofi Annan? Really?

Winning a Nobel Prize would be an insult to Satashi Nakamoto. I don't think they would award him one anyway since Bitcoin is apolitical and doesn't really support the socialist, leftist agenda and the Nobel Prize has a well-known liberal bias.


Title: Re: Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: wxa7115 on December 07, 2016, 07:25:20 PM
Satoshi does not need any kind of recognition or prize, besides not a lot of people care about who gets a Nobel Prize, especially since it has become a lot more about politics than actual recognition to great minds.


Title: Re: Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: pinkflower on December 08, 2016, 05:52:58 AM
Nobel prize is tainted by war criminals winning the Peace prize, etc.

It doesn't really matter. The Nobel Prize has been tainted right from the start. Alfred Nobel after whom the prize was named can be considered a war criminal himself since he was deeply involved in the production of armaments (he established more than 90 armaments factories) and most of his wealth came from arms trade...

In this way, the Nobel Peace Prize is an outrage in the face of humanity in its own right

Is that true? I was not aware of that. Please post the link here for us lazy ones to google it. It would also make your post more informative.


Title: Re: Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: Yakamoto on December 08, 2016, 06:04:48 AM
Nobel prize is tainted by war criminals winning the Peace prize, etc.

It doesn't really matter. The Nobel Prize has been tainted right from the start. Alfred Nobel after whom the prize was named can be considered a war criminal himself since he was deeply involved in the production of armaments (he established more than 90 armaments factories) and most of his wealth came from arms trade...

In this way, the Nobel Peace Prize is an outrage in the face of humanity in its own right

Is that true? I was not aware of that. Please post the link here for us lazy ones to google it. It would also make your post more informative.
If you can't google it, then you're going to have a hard time reading an article about it.

If you really care about getting a good analysis, look up the name (Alfred Nobel) and start tracing his finance history. It's not like it's an impossible thing to find and as long as you check your sources you can verify the information you're seeing.

I won't go and find a link, but the guy you quoted isn't wrong from what I know.


Title: Re: Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: coin-investor on December 08, 2016, 06:10:26 AM
He deserves that award for the category science and technology but this will not motivate him to come out
any one in the board can come forward to claim the award in his name,no awards can make him come out..


Title: Re: Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: Zadicar on December 08, 2016, 06:21:59 AM
He deserves that award for the category science and technology but this will not motivate him to come out
any one in the board can come forward to claim the award in his name,no awards can make him come out..
Its just an assumption of OP on which Satoshi gained the economic nobel prize but you do really have a point on which no matter how good was the award it wouldnt still make for satoshi to come out for sure and he would like to stay anonymous the same on his invention named bitcoin. I do agree on this prize which he really deserves it because of bitcoins creation which really helps a lot on most people who uses it.


Title: Re: Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: deisik on December 08, 2016, 06:47:57 AM
Nobel prize is tainted by war criminals winning the Peace prize, etc.

It doesn't really matter. The Nobel Prize has been tainted right from the start. Alfred Nobel after whom the prize was named can be considered a war criminal himself since he was deeply involved in the production of armaments (he established more than 90 armaments factories) and most of his wealth came from arms trade...

In this way, the Nobel Peace Prize is an outrage in the face of humanity in its own right

Is that true? I was not aware of that. Please post the link here for us lazy ones to google it. It would also make your post more informative.

You can read more about him in Wiki

At first I wanted to add a link to the Wiki article, then I somehow thought that everyone should at least have heard about Nobel since he is famous not only for the prize established in his name but also for inventing dynamite (I hope you won't ask what dynamite is). So I expected that people would get interested to learn more about him and how he had been earning his wealth. In any case, I added the link to my first post


Title: Re: Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: Victorycoin on December 16, 2016, 09:29:24 PM
He deserves that award for the category science and technology but this will not motivate him to come out
any one in the board can come forward to claim the award in his name,no awards can make him come out..
Its just an assumption of OP on which Satoshi gained the economic nobel prize but you do really have a point on which no matter how good was the award it wouldnt still make for satoshi to come out for sure and he would like to stay anonymous the same on his invention named bitcoin. I do agree on this prize which he really deserves it because of bitcoins creation which really helps a lot on most people who uses it.

Having all those technologies and his anonymity figured out ahead of time, is another pointer that Satoshi Nakamoto is indeed a mastermind! His invention is talked about in every continent and soon it would be on most households and businesses. I however think he really doesn't need the award even though he deserves it. One thing we seem to be over looking is the fact that the governments are desperate and can throw the Noble Prize as a carrot to see if it ropes him in.





Title: Re: Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: dihari on December 16, 2016, 11:17:03 PM
Are you believe sathosi nakamoto is a real person?
Have you ever think sathosi nakamoto is just a fiction figure to hide somethings/someones?
I think about that 11 months ago


Title: Re: Economic Nobel prize for Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: merchantofzeny on December 29, 2016, 09:46:12 PM
We should wait for a few years to find out the exact effects of btc. As for Satoshi winning the prize, I don't know if they give out prizes to anonymous identities.