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Title: Tax v Bitcoins
Post by: OnkgoKikgoKi on December 12, 2016, 12:20:34 PM
Do I have to pay Tax on Bitcoins?


Title: Re: Tax v Bitcoins
Post by: Coin-Keeper on December 12, 2016, 06:47:19 PM
Seriously, there are dozens of threads here answering this question, BUT, you haven't even told us what country you are talking about!


Title: Re: Tax v Bitcoins
Post by: RodeoX on December 12, 2016, 06:51:25 PM
As mentioned above, read the other threads. But to find a real and specific answer you will need to talk to a tax consultant in your country. The short answer is yes, I am not aware of any nation that does not have an applicable tax on bitcoin.


Title: Re: Tax v Bitcoins
Post by: rafajunior99 on December 17, 2016, 09:00:05 AM
Do I have to pay Tax on Bitcoins?
whether the currency Bitcoin has become the first in your country or not if bitcoin is not the first currency in your country, you do not have to pay taxes. it seems to me


Title: Re: Tax v Bitcoins
Post by: darkangel11 on December 18, 2016, 12:22:07 AM
As mentioned above, read the other threads. But to find a real and specific answer you will need to talk to a tax consultant in your country. The short answer is yes, I am not aware of any nation that does not have an applicable tax on bitcoin.
Depends what taxes are we talking about. Bitcoin is free of VAT tax in every EU country. Also in some countries, like Germany it's also free of income tax, if you held it for over a year and it's not your regular source of income. On the other hand it's best to pay taxes if you're planning to buy a house or a car with your coins, because most countries require the sellers to report civil law transactions and the revenue office likes to keep an eye on those. ;)


Title: Re: Tax v Bitcoins
Post by: ajaxmoor on December 19, 2016, 07:53:43 AM
Shortanswer, A Big YES if you ever convert it to fiat. For a more detailed answer refer to this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1631867


Title: Re: Tax v Bitcoins
Post by: European Central Bank on December 19, 2016, 11:30:34 PM
Shortanswer, A Big YES if you ever convert it to fiat. For a more detailed answer refer to this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1631867

depends. in germany as long as you've held for over a year there's no capital gains. kind of strange but there you go. i guess it might well change soon.


Title: Re: Tax v Bitcoins
Post by: gredisgold88 on December 20, 2016, 03:48:37 AM
As mentioned above, read the other threads. But to find a real and specific answer you will need to talk to a tax consultant in your country. The short answer is yes, I am not aware of any nation that does not have an applicable tax on bitcoin.
Depends what taxes are we talking about. Bitcoin is free of VAT tax in every EU country. Also in some countries, like Germany it's also free of income tax, if you held it for over a year and it's not your regular source of income. On the other hand it's best to pay taxes if you're planning to buy a house or a car with your coins, because most countries require the sellers to report civil law transactions and the revenue office likes to keep an eye on those. ;)

This confused me, in my country income in bitcoin not wearing VAT, and to work into bitcoin miner and farmer in his status is still in question, but if BTC redeemable it will have its own taxes every year


Title: Re: Tax v Bitcoins
Post by: Dammitt on December 23, 2016, 11:03:16 PM
First of all it is important which country you are. Another issue is that it is possible to find answers in other topics instead of opening a new topic that has a lot of topics related to it. There is no tax on bitcoin if we come to the roll.


Title: Re: Tax v Bitcoins
Post by: zeze18 on December 24, 2016, 06:29:00 AM

if so blessed bitcoin businesses ,, due to the absence of tax regulations on bitcoin


Title: Re: Tax v Bitcoins
Post by: FLoving on December 24, 2016, 11:26:49 AM
Do I have to pay Tax on Bitcoins?
As none of the government have accepted it so for them bitcoin is not a currency yet and for that they are not lawful to impose tax on bitcoins. But at the time when you will exchange your money to fiat then on its withdrawal to your banks the banks are liable to impose tax on that.


Title: Re: Tax v Bitcoins
Post by: xuan87 on December 28, 2016, 03:18:00 PM
For temporary it will be no in my country because there are no regulation yet about bitcoin, but if you exchange it to fiat then the exchanger will charge you with the tax and in that case you need to pay tax, but i believe in the future the government will try to taxed bitcoin


Title: Re: Tax v Bitcoins
Post by: Warkop on December 29, 2016, 03:55:37 PM
Seriously, there are dozens of threads here answering this question, BUT, you haven't even told us what country you are talking about!
I thought she might as well just focus on one country he himself is not to some other countries.


Title: Re: Tax v Bitcoins
Post by: CraigWrightBTC on December 30, 2016, 03:52:05 AM
Do I have to pay Tax on Bitcoins?
Of course yes, you must pay the taxes if your country wanna it, but depend on your country is there taxes for bitcoin's usage or not.
If you love the country you must build it with pay the taxes.
And i think the taxes of bitcoins is not too expensive, if your country will apply it.


Title: Re: Tax v Bitcoins
Post by: burner2014 on January 01, 2017, 04:34:01 PM
Do I have to pay Tax on Bitcoins?
Of course yes, you must pay the taxes if your country wanna it, but depend on your country is there taxes for bitcoin's usage or not.
If you love the country you must build it with pay the taxes.
And i think the taxes of bitcoins is not too expensive, if your country will apply it.
It is really up to you if you are a law abiding citizen because here in our country we have to pay or declare it if not if they have seen this to us we will pay tax consequences. As per me, it is not that big amount because I have a child which I claim as an additional exception to pay tax.


Title: Re: Tax v Bitcoins
Post by: TastyChillySauce00 on January 02, 2017, 07:10:56 AM
Taxes is an obligation for every citizen of a country which obligating their citizen to pay taxes. However, if you avoid paying taxes then you might be punished so it's always better to be a good man and always pay those taxes. If you are still having intention on avoiding taxes then it's you the one who will be responsible for everything you have done
But so far I haven't seen country which taxing directly onto bitcoin but only taxing you when exchanging your bitcoin to your local currency so, lucky you.


Title: Re: Tax v Bitcoins
Post by: strasboug on January 11, 2017, 07:40:55 PM
You don't pay tax by holding bitcoins, but you will need to pay tax if you sell it for fiat and make a profit, in which case it is like you sell a stock and same capital gain rules apply. This is the situation in US.


Title: Re: Tax v Bitcoins
Post by: morpheus305 on July 23, 2017, 04:57:42 AM
Shortanswer, A Big YES if you ever convert it to fiat. For a more detailed answer refer to this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1631867

depends. in germany as long as you've held for over a year there's no capital gains. kind of strange but there you go. i guess it might well change soon.

Say for example you bought $2k worth of bitcoins with fiat. Over the next two years you trade those bitcoins vs other alt coins and eventually it grows in value. Even though you never converted to fiat the entire can you claim long term capital gains when it comes time to cash some of that out?


Title: Re: Tax v Bitcoins
Post by: Emmami@758 on October 07, 2017, 07:52:11 AM
Do I have to pay Tax on Bitcoins?

yes i have to pay tax on bit coins. if we are buying legally then why should we feel fear. in most country's people buying bit coins illegally once tax may pay then more people facing problems.  i thinking to keeping tax is good. it is help to that country's economical growth.


Title: Re: Tax v Bitcoins
Post by: Lampaster on October 08, 2017, 12:55:24 PM
Taxes is an obligation for every citizen of a country which obligating their citizen to pay taxes. However, if you avoid paying taxes then you might be punished so it's always better to be a good man and always pay those taxes. If you are still having intention on avoiding taxes then it's you the one who will be responsible for everything you have done
But so far I haven't seen country which taxing directly onto bitcoin but only taxing you when exchanging your bitcoin to your local currency so, lucky you.
To pay taxes is really a duty of every citizen, but you forget that this is a road with two directions. There is still a duty of the state to fairly distribute the taxes and to deal with the embezzlement. People see that the state does not fulfill its obligations and therefore do not want to pay taxes. What's wrong with that? I did not pay them. I take nothing from the state and do not feel obliged to him.


Title: Re: Tax v Bitcoins
Post by: Snaic on October 22, 2017, 07:23:29 AM
If the government directly established a profit tax on operations with bitcoin, then the tax would have to be paid. Now such taxes are introduced by states that recognize crypto currency as a means of payment. Otherwise, you can be criminally liable.


Title: Re: Tax v Bitcoins
Post by: ember.suc on December 05, 2017, 11:18:15 AM
Of ourse, you must pay taxes on any capital gain you realize on Bitcoin or any other currency. If you buy and hold, you do not have to report anything until you sell. Keep in mind, the IRS treats digital currencies as property for the sake of taxes, so all of the same rules apply.


Title: Re: Tax v Bitcoins
Post by: rhamzter on December 05, 2017, 01:20:34 PM
Taxes is an obligation for every citizen of a country which obligating their citizen to pay taxes. However, if you avoid paying taxes then you might be punished so it's always better to be a good man and always pay those taxes. If you are still having intention on avoiding taxes then it's you the one who will be responsible for everything you have done
But so far I haven't seen country which taxing directly onto bitcoin but only taxing you when exchanging your bitcoin to your local currency so, lucky you.
To pay taxes is really a duty of every citizen, but you forget that this is a road with two directions. There is still a duty of the state to fairly distribute the taxes and to deal with the embezzlement. People see that the state does not fulfill its obligations and therefore do not want to pay taxes. What's wrong with that? I did not pay them. I take nothing from the state and do not feel obliged to him.
Since earning bitcoin is not included as regular income of one citizen, I guess it's great because it was not included as taxable income of each person. Otherwise bitcoin is not regulates by the government of some country that's why they cannot obligated to pay taxes.

However if the bitcoin started to adopt by the government of each nation I think crypto currency are need to follow the rules and regulations of respective country.

Moreover earning income of people from digital world will be lessen due to tax deduction from their income.


Title: Re: Tax v Bitcoins
Post by: migolmigol on December 05, 2017, 04:57:52 PM
When I was studying tax, any form of income is taxable. Even the second market or just like simple selling your pen to another person for small amount of gain. So basically yes, you have to pay tax. Income tax to be specific. Which you can file yearly.

However, given that Bitcoin transactions is hard to track and transactions and earnings can be in anonymous form, many do not file and pay earnings from bitcoin.


Title: Re: Tax v Bitcoins
Post by: Psyloc9302003 on December 05, 2017, 07:25:53 PM
btc cannot have tax because of its volatility..not like paper money where it has its own fix value..not unless you convert it to taxable goods or convert it to local currency..as long as it is no stable value I don't think that there are no government that can implement a tax on it..


Title: Re: Tax v Bitcoins
Post by: error08 on December 05, 2017, 11:59:10 PM
If you live in US, yes you have to pay tax for capital gains. But in most countries, there is no tax for capital gains and the only thing you have to pay is withdrawal fees through an exchange.


Title: Re: Tax v Bitcoins
Post by: chineseprancing on December 06, 2017, 11:35:45 AM
When I was studying tax, any form of income is taxable. Even the second market or just like simple selling your pen to another person for small amount of gain. So basically yes, you have to pay tax. Income tax to be specific. Which you can file yearly.

However, given that Bitcoin transactions is hard to track and transactions and earnings can be in anonymous form, many do not file and pay earnings from bitcoin.
I was not agreed if bitcoin will become taxable, because if it is happen our small amount income from digital world will decrease due to taxes from the government. However, since bitcoin are not covered by the leader or law of each country, I guess giving taxes to the income of users will possible to happen for now.


Title: Re: Tax v Bitcoins
Post by: loof99 on December 07, 2017, 01:37:07 PM
Do I have to pay Tax on Bitcoins?

In relationship of Taxation and Bitcoin there is a good benefit between to each other.
The tax will recommend the bitcoin for well systematic and monitored system in commercial transaction; while the bitcoin will accumulate lots of final tax which will remit to the government.