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Title: A4 Drop Card Issues - Jig Reflash Thread
Post by: Eyedol-X on December 16, 2016, 02:35:43 PM
The ongoing A4 Issue's thread was a preorder thread: Those of us with B1/B2 A4's are now faced with the below challenge and a new thread is needed.

Forking to this thread from the original Pre-Order thread as of this post > https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1523298.msg17202120#msg17202120

Ok, I received an update from Inno last night.  There is good, there is BAD, and there is UGLY to this whole mess.  I understand why there hasn't been any word from them now.  They are also trying to figure out how to do this, and the cost to make just 1 jig is CRAZY expensive.  So this is a HUGE mess.

So here are the basics in a nutshell.  Inno is going to send 1 jig to the US.  The cost to make one of the jigs is just insane so we will only get ONE jig to get this job done.  I offered to take the lead in working with US customers to try and get everyone some sort of arrangement to get your miners flashed.  I just don't know how this is going to get done otherwise.  There is no simple solution and this is going to take time and going to likely be messy.  So I ask for your patience up front as I know this isn't going to be easy.

So now we have to work out the details on how to best get everyone who needs the flash done.  I know some customers will be more technically inclined than others and will be willing to flash their own rigs.  For those customers I think the best solution will be to send the jig out to those customers.  Others who are not so comfortable doing this we will have to coordinate shipping rigs and having myself or another trusted member who has the jig flash the miners for you.  

For those who want to flash their own rigs, what we will have to do is setup a lottery where each member picks a number we put it in a hat and draw out the number.  That person will have the opportunity to get the jig first to do the flash.  Then we will do the lottery again and have the jig sent to the next person.  We will work through the list of customers until everyone has an opportunity to flash rigs who is willing and able to do so.

Now the bad part here is that due to the cost of the jig we have to ensure that the jig is passed along and not kept by a member when we still have members who need to be flashed.  So my suggestion here is that we setup an escrow.  In order to get the jig sent out to you once your number is drawn in the lottery we will need to collect a deposit that is held by an escrow.   The deposit will be returned to you as soon as the jig has been passed along to the next person who was picked in the lottery and has paid the deposit to have the jig sent.  This way we ensure that the jig gets passed around and ultimately returned in case we should have to go through this exercise again.  

There will need to be a time limit that any one member can keep the jig so that this process is not delayed for those waiting.  I would say 7 days with the jig should be ample time to make some time to open up the A4's and to do the flash, and then to get the jig sent off to the next person waiting.

Since there is only 1 jig this is going to take time, and a lot of patience on everyone's part.  It sounds like if we use DHL and keep the receipts and provide them to Inno that they may compensate you for the shipping costs for this.  I need to confirm this with them so don't hold me to that.  I will get the details and pass them along.
 
So I will open this up to the community here to discuss the plan and work out the details.  I want this to be as fair as possible for everyone and I will try to help anyone who is not comfortable flashing their rigs.  You will have to make your need known so we can try to figure out how to get your rigs fixed.  

I will be reaching out to other customers who are not members here on BCT and will give them the same information and suggest they join this discussion here on BCT to simplify communications for this juggling act with the 1 jig.  

Ok, that is the scoop.  Please feel free to offer suggestions and feedback so we can try to make this process work as smoothly as we can for everyone.  This is a community effort at this point and this is all volunteer work.  We have quite a few miners to get flashed so this is going to take a while. So please be gentle with me and we will work through this! LOL

I will let you know as soon as the jig arrives here and any additional details as I get them.  


As much as I don't want to ship my A4's around, this lottery system and physically shipping the jig increases the chances of damage from handling. So I say we completely rule this out. If the Jig gets damaged shipping between members, we are all fucked.

If Lightfoot is willing, my vote is just ship it to him and I'll have to bite the bullet to ship my A4's around.

Edit: This is assuming you don't want to take on the challenge of shipping/flashing everyones A4's

Honestly, if Inno is going to reimburse for shipping, I would be amazed, however it's highly unlikely IMO. Lets just all assume we are lucky to get the jig at this point.

Inno needs to include an empty case, a PI, and a couple of fans with this Jig.

If Inno can do this, we have the option of packing and ship our A4 Cards only instead of the entire miner to the person flashing/testing. Save money on round trip shipping costs.

How about we open a new thread for the jig/flashing activities.
Also, if we keep the jig at one location (which makes more sense than shipping it around and risking damage to the jig), I would suggest somewhere in the central US to minimize the "average" shipping costs for the A4's.
If we do decide to ship the jig, I would suggest 1 stop on the east coast and one stop on the west coast.
Im perfectly happy to ship my A4's to someone to flash for me, Although the process seems simple enough.
Also, what about pulling the blades out of the A4's and shipping those in groups, scheduling with the person who has the jig. That would help to reduce shipping slightly. I think it will be like $20-$30 to ship an individual cube somewhere in the US.
Im in Arizona, which is further west than central. Perhaps someone in Texas would want to do the flashing?
Also, if we have someone doing all the flashing, what would be the costs for that in addition to the shipping?
These are all questions we need to address, hence I suggested the separate thread.

Running Total -- trying to get something comma seperated going here so it's easier to parse data later -- if everyone could just add to this list  and combine others when posting. Until we know differently, I'm assuming the same jig is used for B1 and B2 miners.

List of miners that need updating that located in USA ONLY:
2, Longsnowsm
3, Firehawk71
2, Eyedol-X
3, Usao


Title: Re: A4 Drop Card Issues - Jig Reflash Thread [US]
Post by: Eyedol-X on December 16, 2016, 02:38:11 PM
How about we open a new thread for the jig/flashing activities.
Also, if we keep the jig at one location (which makes more sense than shipping it around and risking damage to the jig), I would suggest somewhere in the central US to minimize the "average" shipping costs for the A4's.
If we do decide to ship the jig, I would suggest 1 stop on the east coast and one stop on the west coast.
Im perfectly happy to ship my A4's to someone to flash for me, Although the process seems simple enough.
Also, what about pulling the blades out of the A4's and shipping those in groups, scheduling with the person who has the jig. That would help to reduce shipping slightly. I think it will be like $20-$30 to ship an individual cube somewhere in the US.
Im in Arizona, which is further west than central. Perhaps someone in Texas would want to do the flashing?
Also, if we have someone doing all the flashing, what would be the costs for that in addition to the shipping?
These are all questions we need to address, hence I suggested the separate thread.

I'm located in North Texas but the challenge I would have is time to get them done. I do have the ability to ship around the country but if I were to do this, It would be ~1 week turnaround for me as I work FT and run a business.

Dunno where lightfoot is but he still has my vote.

I agree on the best case scenario is to have someone in Central US


Title: Re: A4 Drop Card Issues - Jig Reflash Thread [US]
Post by: usao on December 16, 2016, 02:48:20 PM
I have plenty of time, and the process looks to be simple enough, but in in Arizona, which is not very central to anywhere.
I could turn-around A4's in a day I would expect.


Title: Re: A4 Drop Card Issues - Jig Reflash Thread [US]
Post by: mjgraham on December 16, 2016, 02:52:29 PM
Anyone have a photo of the jig? I found the test points for the St Link interface to reflash the chip I just need the firmware unless there is some goofy procedure to doing this, really building a simple pin setup just to pop open the back push it on and hit send shouldn't be to far outta reach really. I was able to connect to one blade of mine and pull what firmware was on there off just to test. I live in Virginia not to central there either.


Title: Re: A4 Drop Card Issues - Jig Reflash Thread [US]
Post by: Eyedol-X on December 16, 2016, 02:56:18 PM
Anyone have a photo of the jig? I found the test points for the St Link interface to reflash the chip I just need the firmware unless there is some goofy procedure to doing this, really building a simple pin setup just to pop open the back push it on and hit send shouldn't be to far outta reach really. I was able to connect to one blade of mine and pull what firmware was on there off just to test. I live in Virginia not to central there either.


Pics

Please take some pix and instructions of how to use the jig.

Here's some pics: https://www.flickr.com/photos/vinylwasp/sets/72157677783247635/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/vinylwasp/sets/72157677783247635/)

1. Unplug and Remove Fan
2. Remove the 2 screws that hold the cards into the chassis.
3. Slide out cards, and remove stickers covering contacts on each board (Batch 2 cards)
4. Move the mode selector switch on the Jig towards the Mini Downloader into the Up/Download position (see photos)
5. Plug both USB cables into the jig (they're powered from any standard USB socket). Both lights (red and blue) on the Mini Downloader should be flashing.
6. Place card (with heatsink on) onto the jig.
7. Lower the contacts onto the card using the handle
8. Push the button on the Mini Downloader. The Red light will flash a few times and then the Blue light locks on. This indicates that the firmware download was successful.
9. Flip the mode selector switch into the Down/Decode position away from the Mini-Downloader. Watch the card's LED. It should come on in a second and will stay lit for 5-7 seconds while the jig performs some diagnostics (my assumption, not documented).
10. Once the LED goes off, raise the pin assembly, remove the card, flip the mode selector back into the Up/Download position, and remove the USB cables.
11. Start process again.

That's it. The reflash process takes about 30 seconds per card. I struck a couple of mine where the LED began flashing like crazy at step 7, or step 9, but resetting the card in the jig and/or performing the process again from the start sorted it.

If you can get a Jig, anyone who can handle a screwdriver can do this job if you follow the documentation and keep your cool if LEDs start flashing.


Title: Re: A4 Drop Card Issues - Jig Reflash Thread [US]
Post by: lightfoot on December 16, 2016, 03:02:52 PM
Anyone have a photo of the jig? I found the test points for the St Link interface to reflash the chip I just need the firmware unless there is some goofy procedure to doing this, really building a simple pin setup just to pop open the back push it on and hit send shouldn't be to far outta reach really. I was able to connect to one blade of mine and pull what firmware was on there off just to test. I live in Virginia not to central there either.

Oh you can pull the firmware???? Then they didn't set the write protect bit, *good*.

I wonder if you could find someone to send you one blade from a 3.0 unit, then try pulling that firmware and flashing it to your 1.0/2.0 board. Or ask Inno to send you the firmware. I was thinking actually of building a "hat" that would go on the chip with a Pi behind it to just flash away but it sounds like Inno has the jig.

Edit: Looking at that jig I'm wondering why they have two sets of USB devices on there. Are they reprogramming one chip or two?

C


Title: Re: A4 Drop Card Issues - Jig Reflash Thread [US]
Post by: Eyedol-X on December 16, 2016, 03:08:00 PM
Inno needs to include an empty case, a PI, and a couple of fans with this Jig.

If Inno can do this, we have the option of packing and ship our A4 Cards only instead of the entire miner to the person flashing/testing. Save money on round trip shipping costs.
That would be a very good idea. As someone who has repaired a bunch of reworks all at once awhile back time is critical. It takes time to pull the unit out, remove the screws, take off the fans, not lose the screws, pull the boards, and place on the preheater (or jig in this case). Then putting it together. The time spent doing that is miniscule to the user, but when you multiply it by 500 you're talking serious time.

People should pull out their blades, and send just those in. Make sure Inno is ok with this, if someone botches the removal then the boards should be replaced under warranty or something if Inno approves. (It's an exception case, document those).

It sounds like Inno wants to just do one jig, and to be honest the only skill I could offer with the jig is my kinda-good reputation :-). Anyone should be able to do the reprogramming, LS will do a great job on it I'm sure. If it required reflow/rework/fun skills then I'd put my hat in but for now it seems to be under control.

Anyone have a photo of the jig? I found the test points for the St Link interface to reflash the chip I just need the firmware unless there is some goofy procedure to doing this, really building a simple pin setup just to pop open the back push it on and hit send shouldn't be to far outta reach really. I was able to connect to one blade of mine and pull what firmware was on there off just to test. I live in Virginia not to central there either.

Oh you can pull the firmware???? Then they didn't set the write protect bit, *good*.

I wonder if you could find someone to send you one blade from a 3.0 unit, then try pulling that firmware and flashing it to your 1.0/2.0 board. Or ask Inno to send you the firmware. I was thinking actually of building a "hat" that would go on the chip with a Pi behind it to just flash away but it sounds like Inno has the jig.

C

Thanks Lightfoot -- I pulled your reply from old thread to make sure people here saw your comments.

Hopefully Inno can accomodate us on the empty case/accessories. Even though you're in VA and that's not dead center USA, I think you're the best suited person to crank these out.


Title: Re: A4 Drop Card Issues - Jig Reflash Thread [US]
Post by: mjgraham on December 16, 2016, 03:09:26 PM
Thanks, well that is a nice jig for sure, other than the alignment part I don't see what all the extra stuff does, but I was powering the board with the normal setup this may do something different, plus that sticker over the test points that takes scraping to remove not just a peel off. I don't know I would almost be willing if I could get the software to try one board, really only needed 3 connections to read the chip, although this may do a more in depth sanity check.

For anyone that is interested I dismantled mine completely the other day and took photos, it survived the process. Pinned out all the cables to what they do and signals they are. One thing I found odd is I was curious what dc-dc regulators they were used to control the voltage but they lazered off the tops of them so you don't know what they are.

http://photos.mag-productions.com/Hobbies/A4-miner/n-skNV3f/ (http://photos.mag-productions.com/Hobbies/A4-miner/n-skNV3f/)

Anyone have a photo of the jig? I found the test points for the St Link interface to reflash the chip I just need the firmware unless there is some goofy procedure to doing this, really building a simple pin setup just to pop open the back push it on and hit send shouldn't be to far outta reach really. I was able to connect to one blade of mine and pull what firmware was on there off just to test. I live in Virginia not to central there either.

Oh you can pull the firmware???? Then they didn't set the write protect bit, *good*.

I wonder if you could find someone to send you one blade from a 3.0 unit, then try pulling that firmware and flashing it to your 1.0/2.0 board. Or ask Inno to send you the firmware. I was thinking actually of building a "hat" that would go on the chip with a Pi behind it to just flash away but it sounds like Inno has the jig.

C

yea no protect bit, wasn't set on A2s either, already thought about getting a B3 card to get it from, as for asking Inno I was talking to someone there regular about this process and being able to help and I thought it was going well but they disappeared 3 or 4 days ago.


Title: Re: A4 Drop Card Issues - Jig Reflash Thread [US]
Post by: Eyedol-X on December 16, 2016, 03:18:57 PM
Thanks, well that is a nice jig for sure, other than the alignment part I don't see what all the extra stuff does, but I was powering the board with the normal setup this may do something different, plus that sticker over the test points that takes scraping to remove not just a peel off. I don't know I would almost be willing if I could get the software to try one board, really only needed 3 connections to read the chip, although this may do a more in depth sanity check.

For anyone that is interested I dismantled mine completely the other day and took photos, it survived the process. Pinned out all the cables to what they do and signals they are. One thing I found odd is I was curious what dc-dc regulators they were used to control the voltage but they lazered off the tops of them so you don't know what they are.

http://photos.mag-productions.com/Hobbies/A4-miner/n-skNV3f/ (http://photos.mag-productions.com/Hobbies/A4-miner/n-skNV3f/)

Anyone have a photo of the jig? I found the test points for the St Link interface to reflash the chip I just need the firmware unless there is some goofy procedure to doing this, really building a simple pin setup just to pop open the back push it on and hit send shouldn't be to far outta reach really. I was able to connect to one blade of mine and pull what firmware was on there off just to test. I live in Virginia not to central there either.

Oh you can pull the firmware???? Then they didn't set the write protect bit, *good*.

I wonder if you could find someone to send you one blade from a 3.0 unit, then try pulling that firmware and flashing it to your 1.0/2.0 board. Or ask Inno to send you the firmware. I was thinking actually of building a "hat" that would go on the chip with a Pi behind it to just flash away but it sounds like Inno has the jig.

C

yea no protect bit, wasn't set on A2s either, already thought about getting a B3 card to get it from, as for asking Inno I was talking to someone there regular about this process and being able to help and I thought it was going well but they disappeared 3 or 4 days ago.

Interesting, if I understand this correctly -- you can pull from the B3 card and make your own Jig to reflash B1/B2? ...or am I reading too much into this


Title: Re: A4 Drop Card Issues - Jig Reflash Thread [US]
Post by: lightfoot on December 16, 2016, 03:19:44 PM
For anyone that is interested I dismantled mine completely the other day and took photos, it survived the process. Pinned out all the cables to what they do and signals they are. One thing I found odd is I was curious what dc-dc regulators they were used to control the voltage but they lazered off the tops of them so you don't know what they are.
My guess is they are 1850 type power controllers. I remember those on the Jalapeno and BFL 60gh units, they're actually not too bad but pretty simple. Two channel support, they watch dv/dt across the upper FETs to determine current but they drive both FETs from the same gate source. One mistake BFL did was to use three high side and 3 low side FETs. The high side FETs are on only a very small period of time, but need to start up and shut down *QUICKLY* which requires a low capacatance gate trench. By putting three of them on the high side they increased the gate capacitance and they ran much hotter than they would have with only two. Low side tends to be on a lot more so capacitance isn't an issue and running three is a good idea.

Sorry, technobabble :-)


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yea no protect bit, wasn't set on A2s either, already thought about getting a B3 card to get it from, as for asking Inno I was talking to someone there regular about this process and being able to help and I thought it was going well but they disappeared 3 or 4 days ago.
Good. Milling down an 8 bit 1990's controller MCU was enough of a bitch. :-) They may be busy, but see if you can reflash it with a 3.0 code base. What's the worst that can happen?

C


Title: Re: A4 Drop Card Issues - Jig Reflash Thread [US]
Post by: lightfoot on December 16, 2016, 03:20:37 PM
Interesting, if I understand this correctly -- you can pull from the B3 card and make your own Jig to reflash B1/B2? ...or am I reading too much into this
At this point you're reading way way way too much into this :-) But someone is already into the chip, and it is a possibility.

C


Title: Re: A4 Drop Card Issues - Jig Reflash Thread [US]
Post by: Eyedol-X on December 16, 2016, 03:23:21 PM
For anyone that is interested I dismantled mine completely the other day and took photos, it survived the process. Pinned out all the cables to what they do and signals they are. One thing I found odd is I was curious what dc-dc regulators they were used to control the voltage but they lazered off the tops of them so you don't know what they are.
My guess is they are 1850 type power controllers. I remember those on the Jalapeno and BFL 60gh units, they're actually not too bad but pretty simple. Two channel support, they watch dv/dt across the upper FETs to determine current but they drive both FETs from the same gate source. One mistake BFL did was to use three high side and 3 low side FETs. The high side FETs are on only a very small period of time, but need to start up and shut down *QUICKLY* which requires a low capacatance gate trench. By putting three of them on the high side they increased the gate capacitance and they ran much hotter than they would have with only two. Low side tends to be on a lot more so capacitance isn't an issue and running three is a good idea.

Sorry, technobabble :-)


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yea no protect bit, wasn't set on A2s either, already thought about getting a B3 card to get it from, as for asking Inno I was talking to someone there regular about this process and being able to help and I thought it was going well but they disappeared 3 or 4 days ago.
Good. Milling down an 8 bit 1990's controller MCU was enough of a bitch. :-) They may be busy, but see if you can reflash it with a 3.0 code base. What's the worst that can happen?

C

According to some info shared previously, supposedly the Hardware from B1/B2/B3 is all the same but the chips are all flashed differently.

I'd have to dig to find the post.


Title: Re: A4 Drop Card Issues - Jig Reflash Thread [US]
Post by: lightfoot on December 16, 2016, 03:31:16 PM
According to some info shared previously, supposedly the Hardware from B1/B2/B3 is all the same but the chips are all flashed differently.

I'd have to dig to find the post.
That would not be unusual: KNC did this with the Neptunes, and when they made the Titans they followed the exact same design. Because if the previous design works in the field why change it?

Let's move these discussions back to the main thread though; this is for fixing the A4's.


Title: Re: A4 Drop Card Issues - Jig Reflash Thread
Post by: Eyedol-X on December 16, 2016, 03:36:03 PM
According to some info shared previously, supposedly the Hardware from B1/B2/B3 is all the same but the chips are all flashed differently.

I'd have to dig to find the post.
That would not be unusual: KNC did this with the Neptunes, and when they made the Titans they followed the exact same design. Because if the previous design works in the field why change it?

Let's move these discussions back to the main thread though; this is for fixing the A4's.

The vision for this thread was specific to those in the USA and how we are going to fix them/track those who need them.

If everyone thinks it's necessary I can lock this thread if people would rather go on the pre-order thread still.

Alternatively, I can revise it to not be limited to the US and just be a general thread for fixing/reflashing.

EDIT: I dropped the US limitation for this thread because your point is correct, this is about fixing A4's for everyone affected with B1/B2


Title: Re: A4 Drop Card Issues - Jig Reflash Thread [US]
Post by: Longsnowsm on December 16, 2016, 03:44:50 PM
I certainly don't mind handing the jig off to someone who has the time to do this.  I know I certainly don't have the time to do this for everyone. 

I can tell you that Inno knows of 44 units in the US that were sold through them directly, and there are others that were bought through other channels.  So I need to reach out to those customers and direct them where ever we decide as a group to send these.   


Title: Re: A4 Drop Card Issues - Jig Reflash Thread
Post by: jstefanop on December 16, 2016, 03:55:38 PM
If someone can send me some high res photos of both sides of the board, and some pics of the jig and where it interfaces on the board, im pretty sure I can whip up a flasher for you guys that would require about $30 bucks worth of parts. I pretty much did the same thing for the Alcheminer guys when their boards had a major firmware issue that needed reflashing.


Title: Re: A4 Drop Card Issues - Jig Reflash Thread
Post by: Eyedol-X on December 16, 2016, 03:59:43 PM
If someone can send me some high res photos of both sides of the board, and some pics of the jig and where it interfaces on the board, im pretty sure I can whip up a flasher for you guys that would require about $30 bucks worth of parts. I pretty much did the same thing for the Alcheminer guys when their boards had a major firmware issue that needed reflashing.

This would be an awesome thing if it were possible, fixes everything for everyone.


Title: Re: A4 Drop Card Issues - Jig Reflash Thread
Post by: Eyedol-X on December 16, 2016, 04:07:46 PM
I certainly don't mind handing the jig off to someone who has the time to do this.  I know I certainly don't have the time to do this for everyone.  

I can tell you that Inno knows of 44 units in the US that were sold through them directly, and there are others that were bought through other channels.  So I need to reach out to those customers and direct them where ever we decide as a group to send these.  

Well I purchased my 2 through a US reseller so I'm not sure how Inno would track that, they were directly shipped to me from Inno I believe because they came from China.


Title: Re: A4 Drop Card Issues - Jig Reflash Thread
Post by: mjgraham on December 16, 2016, 04:14:10 PM
If someone can send me some high res photos of both sides of the board, and some pics of the jig and where it interfaces on the board, im pretty sure I can whip up a flasher for you guys that would require about $30 bucks worth of parts. I pretty much did the same thing for the Alcheminer guys when their boards had a major firmware issue that needed reflashing.

I was able to connect to it with 3 pins used , I don't have a photo to scale but I can take one, my idea was just to make another board with a lip and some pin headers that you could just press down on the other board, something pointy to poke through that sticker, it takes scraping to remove then something to clean. But I just hooked to it with the st-link v2 adapter from China I had, and just read the memory area.

I certainly don't mind handing the jig off to someone who has the time to do this.  I know I certainly don't have the time to do this for everyone. 

I can tell you that Inno knows of 44 units in the US that were sold through them directly, and there are others that were bought through other channels.  So I need to reach out to those customers and direct them where ever we decide as a group to send these.   

Was there some software associated with this or just a self contained unit?


Title: Re: A4 Drop Card Issues - Jig Reflash Thread
Post by: lightfoot on December 16, 2016, 04:32:48 PM
If someone can send me some high res photos of both sides of the board, and some pics of the jig and where it interfaces on the board, im pretty sure I can whip up a flasher for you guys that would require about $30 bucks worth of parts. I pretty much did the same thing for the Alcheminer guys when their boards had a major firmware issue that needed reflashing.
Dude, you're a God. Next time I'm in VA I'll msg you for a beer (root beer or otherwise). That would be the way to do it.


Title: Re: A4 Drop Card Issues - Jig Reflash Thread
Post by: Eyedol-X on December 16, 2016, 04:52:42 PM
If someone can send me some high res photos of both sides of the board, and some pics of the jig and where it interfaces on the board, im pretty sure I can whip up a flasher for you guys that would require about $30 bucks worth of parts. I pretty much did the same thing for the Alcheminer guys when their boards had a major firmware issue that needed reflashing.
Dude, you're a God. Next time I'm in VA I'll msg you for a beer (root beer or otherwise). That would be the way to do it.

I reached out to Vinylwasp who provided some pictures and has the Jig located in AU -- hopefully he can get these photos/provide information.


Title: Re: A4 Drop Card Issues - Jig Reflash Thread
Post by: Longsnowsm on December 16, 2016, 04:53:09 PM
As soon as I get the jig I will tear down the rigs and get you the pictures.  


Title: Re: A4 Drop Card Issues - Jig Reflash Thread
Post by: firehawk71 on December 16, 2016, 07:02:19 PM
As soon as I get the jig I will tear down the rigs and get you the pictures.  
I was wondering what state you are located.. I think its better to just have the Jig at one place and not ship it around and chance it getting damaged.. I am located in MO
OK just checked your profile..I see your in CO.. Any time frame when you will get it?


Title: Re: A4 Drop Card Issues - Jig Reflash Thread
Post by: Longsnowsm on December 16, 2016, 07:19:29 PM
As soon as I get the jig I will tear down the rigs and get you the pictures.  
I was wondering what state you are located.. I think its better to just have the Jig at one place and not ship it around and chance it getting damaged.. I am located in MO
OK just checked your profile..I see your in CO.. Any time frame when you will get it?

They told me they shipped it with DHL last night.  So I don't know the ETA yet for the jig to arrive.  If we can get these jigs cloned that would be the best of all worlds if we can do it at a reasonable cost.



Title: Re: A4 Drop Card Issues - Jig Reflash Thread
Post by: firehawk71 on December 16, 2016, 07:23:51 PM
As soon as I get the jig I will tear down the rigs and get you the pictures.  
I was wondering what state you are located.. I think its better to just have the Jig at one place and not ship it around and chance it getting damaged.. I am located in MO
OK just checked your profile..I see your in CO.. Any time frame when you will get it?

They told me they shipped it with DHL last night.  So I don't know the ETA yet for the jig to arrive.  If we can get these jigs cloned that would be the best of all worlds if we can do it at a reasonable cost.


That would be great if it can be made cheap everyone could buy there own it maybe cheaper then shipping miners round trip?


Title: Re: A4 Drop Card Issues - Jig Reflash Thread
Post by: mjgraham on December 16, 2016, 08:00:48 PM
As soon as I get the jig I will tear down the rigs and get you the pictures.  
I was wondering what state you are located.. I think its better to just have the Jig at one place and not ship it around and chance it getting damaged.. I am located in MO
OK just checked your profile..I see your in CO.. Any time frame when you will get it?

They told me they shipped it with DHL last night.  So I don't know the ETA yet for the jig to arrive.  If we can get these jigs cloned that would be the best of all worlds if we can do it at a reasonable cost.


It will be interesting when you get it, I am curious about the software end if it is a you pick a bin file and send it or is it a self contained unit. The setup looks fragile to a certain degree with all those floating wires and rats nest looking stuff , plus what is going on under the thing. I don't really see why we cant make a clone of the flashing setup. Plus I don't know why you need to take the fan off, I just unhooked it and pulled the back plate off that way you can hold the cards when you loosen the screw and pull one out. I don't get the two USB devices seems interesting for sure.


Title: Re: A4 Drop Card Issues - Jig Reflash Thread
Post by: Chris Sokolowski on December 16, 2016, 08:42:47 PM
As soon as I get the jig I will tear down the rigs and get you the pictures.  
I was wondering what state you are located.. I think its better to just have the Jig at one place and not ship it around and chance it getting damaged.. I am located in MO
OK just checked your profile..I see your in CO.. Any time frame when you will get it?

They told me they shipped it with DHL last night.  So I don't know the ETA yet for the jig to arrive.  If we can get these jigs cloned that would be the best of all worlds if we can do it at a reasonable cost.


That would be great if it can be made cheap everyone could buy there own it maybe cheaper then shipping miners round trip?
If you don't want to ship around the jig and worry about every owner learning how to use it, I would be willing to set up a service at Prohashing (Located in Pennsylvania) to flash miners for others in North America.  If we can get the jig, then people can ship their miners to us and I can do the flashing.  We wouldn't be looking to make a profit from the service; we would just want users to cover the shipping cost of the miners both ways and a small fee for consumables.  If anyone's interested, then we can work this out in more detail.


Title: Re: A4 Drop Card Issues - Jig Reflash Thread
Post by: firehawk71 on December 16, 2016, 10:01:32 PM
As soon as I get the jig I will tear down the rigs and get you the pictures.  
I was wondering what state you are located.. I think its better to just have the Jig at one place and not ship it around and chance it getting damaged.. I am located in MO
OK just checked your profile..I see your in CO.. Any time frame when you will get it?

They told me they shipped it with DHL last night.  So I don't know the ETA yet for the jig to arrive.  If we can get these jigs cloned that would be the best of all worlds if we can do it at a reasonable cost.


That would be great if it can be made cheap everyone could buy there own it maybe cheaper then shipping miners round trip?
If you don't want to ship around the jig and worry about every owner learning how to use it, I would be willing to set up a service at Prohashing (Located in Pennsylvania) to flash miners for others in North America.  If we can get the jig, then people can ship their miners to us and I can do the flashing.  We wouldn't be looking to make a profit from the service; we would just want users to cover the shipping cost of the miners both ways and a small fee for consumables.  If anyone's interested, then we can work this out in more detail.
I think we should consider this option to have ProHash do the work. I have been mining there for almost a year and Chris and Steve are straight up guys that are always accessible and this is there line of work. They have there own forum where we could set up a topic just for the flashing progress. I would have no worries shipping my miners to Prohash because I know they are kind of a neutral party and a business. I would vote for this option and then if you wanted to work on a clone thats fine also. Thoughts?


Title: Re: A4 Drop Card Issues - Jig Reflash Thread
Post by: Longsnowsm on December 16, 2016, 10:51:42 PM
As soon as I get the jig I will tear down the rigs and get you the pictures.  
I was wondering what state you are located.. I think its better to just have the Jig at one place and not ship it around and chance it getting damaged.. I am located in MO
OK just checked your profile..I see your in CO.. Any time frame when you will get it?

They told me they shipped it with DHL last night.  So I don't know the ETA yet for the jig to arrive.  If we can get these jigs cloned that would be the best of all worlds if we can do it at a reasonable cost.


That would be great if it can be made cheap everyone could buy there own it maybe cheaper then shipping miners round trip?
If you don't want to ship around the jig and worry about every owner learning how to use it, I would be willing to set up a service at Prohashing (Located in Pennsylvania) to flash miners for others in North America.  If we can get the jig, then people can ship their miners to us and I can do the flashing.  We wouldn't be looking to make a profit from the service; we would just want users to cover the shipping cost of the miners both ways and a small fee for consumables.  If anyone's interested, then we can work this out in more detail.

Thanks Chris, you guys have always taken very good care of me on Prohashing.  I would have no problem having you flash the A4's and supporting the community.  I will vouch for Chris.

Let's see what others think, but this sounds very reasonable to me.



Title: Re: A4 Drop Card Issues - Jig Reflash Thread
Post by: mjgraham on December 17, 2016, 02:41:46 AM
As soon as I get the jig I will tear down the rigs and get you the pictures.  
I was wondering what state you are located.. I think its better to just have the Jig at one place and not ship it around and chance it getting damaged.. I am located in MO
OK just checked your profile..I see your in CO.. Any time frame when you will get it?

They told me they shipped it with DHL last night.  So I don't know the ETA yet for the jig to arrive.  If we can get these jigs cloned that would be the best of all worlds if we can do it at a reasonable cost.


That would be great if it can be made cheap everyone could buy there own it maybe cheaper then shipping miners round trip?
If you don't want to ship around the jig and worry about every owner learning how to use it, I would be willing to set up a service at Prohashing (Located in Pennsylvania) to flash miners for others in North America.  If we can get the jig, then people can ship their miners to us and I can do the flashing.  We wouldn't be looking to make a profit from the service; we would just want users to cover the shipping cost of the miners both ways and a small fee for consumables.  If anyone's interested, then we can work this out in more detail.

I don't really have an issue with this either, I was hoping to get a shot at using it. I still would like the files so I can flash my own but I know that is not for everyone.


Title: Re: A4 Drop Card Issues - Jig Reflash Thread
Post by: Longsnowsm on December 17, 2016, 03:14:30 AM
I just sent email out to customers who bought directly from Innosilicon explaining the situation.  So you may see an email from me. 

I know we have several people here that bought miners through other channels, but unfortunately there is no way for me to get in touch with people that did not buy miners from Innosilicon.  So for those people I can only hope that they are forum members or stumble upon what we are doing here to resolve these issues with batch 1 and batch 2 miners.


Title: Re: A4 Drop Card Issues - Jig Reflash Thread
Post by: Searing on December 17, 2016, 06:53:20 AM
As soon as I get the jig I will tear down the rigs and get you the pictures.  
I was wondering what state you are located.. I think its better to just have the Jig at one place and not ship it around and chance it getting damaged. I am located in MO
OK just checked your profile.I see your in CO.. Any time frame when you will get it?

They told me they shipped it with DHL last night.  So I don't know the ETA yet for the jig to arrive.  If we can get these jigs cloned that would be the best of all worlds if we can do it at a reasonable cost.



Are they still gonna 'open source' this stuff for you guys? Hell with these jigs and such..perhaps you'd have enough info someone could improve the firmware and the SD software too boot
..it's not like (imho) innsilicon is gonna put a lot of effort into this :) Just me watching this drama from the bleachers...don't have a unit...and at current LTC prices and their 1900 price
with shipping looking more unlikely :)

Innsilicon seems to be following KNC's scrypt and then adding some 'dread' to that process. Perhaps it is a front? KNC China.... :) All so very, very familiar. (BFL,KNC,A4's)








Title: Re: A4 Drop Card Issues - Jig Reflash Thread
Post by: Eyedol-X on December 17, 2016, 02:21:54 PM
If you don't want to ship around the jig and worry about every owner learning how to use it, I would be willing to set up a service at Prohashing (Located in Pennsylvania) to flash miners for others in North America.  If we can get the jig, then people can ship their miners to us and I can do the flashing.  We wouldn't be looking to make a profit from the service; we would just want users to cover the shipping cost of the miners both ways and a small fee for consumables.  If anyone's interested, then we can work this out in more detail.

No objection here to this.


Are they still gonna 'open source' this stuff for you guys? Hell with these jigs and such..perhaps you'd have enough info someone could improve the firmware and the SD software too boot
..it's not like (imho) innsilicon is gonna put a lot of effort into this :) Just me watching this drama from the bleachers...don't have a unit...and at current LTC prices and their 1900 price
with shipping looking more unlikely :)

Innsilicon seems to be following KNC's scrypt and then adding some 'dread' to that process. Perhaps it is a front? KNC China.... :) All so very, very familiar. (BFL,KNC,A4's)



I hope so, they said they would -- my hope is they are waiting to stabilize the units they have shipped before releasing the open source software.



Title: Re: A4 Drop Card Issues - Jig Reflash Thread
Post by: mjgraham on December 17, 2016, 05:51:06 PM

Are they still gonna 'open source' this stuff for you guys? Hell with these jigs and such..perhaps you'd have enough info someone could improve the firmware and the SD software too boot
..it's not like (imho) innsilicon is gonna put a lot of effort into this :) Just me watching this drama from the bleachers...don't have a unit...and at current LTC prices and their 1900 price
with shipping looking more unlikely :)

Innsilicon seems to be following KNC's scrypt and then adding some 'dread' to that process. Perhaps it is a front? KNC China.... :) All so very, very familiar. (BFL,KNC,A4's)



I hope they do, although they didn't for the A2, I would like to make a few changes for the cgminer for sure, I'll just be happy when we can get them updated and that actually fixes the problem and there is not another issue that requires everyone to update their stuff again.


Title: Re: A4 Drop Card Issues - Jig Reflash Thread
Post by: cisA on December 18, 2016, 02:49:34 AM
How i can get the flash file? ???


Title: Re: A4 Drop Card Issues - Jig Reflash Thread
Post by: Eyedol-X on December 18, 2016, 01:54:06 PM
How i can get the flash file? ???

Once Jigs are received, more things will begin to happen.

As we say here, right now it's "Hurry up and wait"


Title: Re: A4 Drop Card Issues - Jig Reflash Thread
Post by: Longsnowsm on December 18, 2016, 03:52:10 PM
Yes, I am still waiting on the jig to show up. 

Also I am looking for a consensus on how we want to proceed.  So far I like the idea of having Prohashing flash the miners, but I want to leave this up to the group to agree.  If everyone is cool with that I will reach out to Chris and we can talk through the details and start to get this lined up.  I will also let Inno know what we want to do to get their agreement also.  Thoughts?


Title: Re: A4 Drop Card Issues - Jig Reflash Thread
Post by: firehawk71 on December 18, 2016, 04:48:29 PM
Yes, I am still waiting on the jig to show up. 

Also I am looking for a consensus on how we want to proceed.  So far I like the idea of having Prohashing flash the miners, but I want to leave this up to the group to agree.  If everyone is cool with that I will reach out to Chris and we can talk through the details and start to get this lined up.  I will also let Inno know what we want to do to get their agreement also.  Thoughts?
I know that Chris has been in contact with Inno about the problem with coin switching and the A4 miniers. So Inno knows of Chris and ProHash which is good. I had written a email to Dominique about shipping a Jig to Prohash and I got a response that they thought it was a good plan for Chris and ProHash to get a jig however they wanted to ship the one jig to a forum member here first and just as you said let the forum decide how to move forward


Title: Re: A4 Drop Card Issues - Jig Reflash Thread
Post by: Staggo on December 18, 2016, 04:54:29 PM
i still dont understand


Title: Re: A4 Drop Card Issues - Jig Reflash Thread
Post by: firehawk71 on December 18, 2016, 05:07:16 PM
i still dont understand
To fix the A4 the 2 hashing boards must be Re-Flashed with a special Jig that re-programs the hashing boards. These Jigs are very expensive so Inno has shipped one Jig to forum member Longsnowfm. But there is only one Jig that needs to fix all of the A4 miners. So the group here is deciding what is the best way to get all miners fixed with just one Jig.. Hope that helps


Title: Re: A4 Drop Card Issues - Jig Reflash Thread
Post by: Longsnowsm on December 18, 2016, 05:19:37 PM
i still dont understand
To fix the A4 the 2 hashing boards must be Re-Flashed with a special Jig that re-programs the hashing boards. These Jigs are very expensive so Inno has shipped one Jig to forum member Longsnowfm. But there is only one Jig that needs to fix all of the A4 miners. So the group here is deciding what is the best way to get all miners fixed with just one Jig.. Hope that helps

To add to that the jig appears to be pretty fragile so the idea of shipping it around the US to fix the miners is probably not a good idea.  I wasn't aware just how fragile this thing is until I saw some pictures posted of it.  So having the jig stay in one place is probably a good idea. 

I would offer to flash them here, but I know my full time job would get in the way of me being able to process these in a timely manner and getting these back to everyone quickly.  So finding someone the community trusts to handle their miners would be preferable.  This is a huge obligation that cannot be taken lightly. 

The good news is that after reviewing the customer list we are down to 34 miners in the US that were purchased directly through Innosilicon.  So maybe this won't be as big a problem to get everyone flashed as I initially feared.    Just as a recap this only affects Batch 1 and Batch 2 miners at this time.  If you have a Batch 3 miner you do not need to flash your firmware.  You are already running the most current firmware available.


Title: Re: A4 Drop Card Issues - Jig Reflash Thread
Post by: Longsnowsm on December 19, 2016, 03:14:18 AM
It has been suggested we should have a vote regarding the flashing.  So let the voting begin.

Ballot issue:
Should we ship the A4 jig to Prohashing and have them flash and upgrade the A4 miners to address the Batch 1 and Batch 2 issues?
1. Yes
2. No
3. Other: Write in votes here

Vote early, vote often, you cannot vote if you are dead... Sorry Chicago... LOL


Title: Re: A4 Drop Card Issues - Jig Reflash Thread
Post by: firehawk71 on December 19, 2016, 04:52:28 AM
It has been suggested we should have a vote regarding the flashing.  So let the voting begin.

Ballot issue:
Should we ship the A4 jig to Prohashing and have them flash and upgrade the A4 miners to address the Batch 1 and Batch 2 issues?
1. Yes
2. No
3. Other: Write in votes here

Vote early, vote often, you cannot vote if you are dead... Sorry Chicago... LOL

Yes


Title: Re: A4 Drop Card Issues - Jig Reflash Thread
Post by: mjgraham on December 19, 2016, 06:27:36 AM
It has been suggested we should have a vote regarding the flashing.  So let the voting begin.

Ballot issue:
Should we ship the A4 jig to Prohashing and have them flash and upgrade the A4 miners to address the Batch 1 and Batch 2 issues?
1. Yes
2. No
3. Other: Write in votes here

Vote early, vote often, you cannot vote if you are dead... Sorry Chicago... LOL

Yes

Even though I wanted to take a look at the rig. I sure hope  they have done enough testing this round and this is the only round we need. I have only had my miners a week and am already tired of trying to invent a way to keep them going.


Title: Re: A4 Drop Card Issues - Jig Reflash Thread
Post by: Eyedol-X on December 19, 2016, 12:01:10 PM
It has been suggested we should have a vote regarding the flashing.  So let the voting begin.

Ballot issue:
Should we ship the A4 jig to Prohashing and have them flash and upgrade the A4 miners to address the Batch 1 and Batch 2 issues?
1. Yes
2. No
3. Other: Write in votes here

Vote early, vote often, you cannot vote if you are dead... Sorry Chicago... LOL


Yes

Alternate picks for me is lightfoot or mjgraham if its determined we can reflash with an alternate method developed.


Title: Re: A4 Drop Card Issues - Jig Reflash Thread
Post by: usao on December 19, 2016, 12:20:51 PM
It has been suggested we should have a vote regarding the flashing.  So let the voting begin.

Ballot issue:
Should we ship the A4 jig to Prohashing and have them flash and upgrade the A4 miners to address the Batch 1 and Batch 2 issues?
1. Yes
2. No
3. Other: Write in votes here

Vote early, vote often, you cannot vote if you are dead... Sorry Chicago... LOL


Yes, but I would like to know the costs...
1) Address (or at least ZIP) to compute shipping costs?
2) Cost from Prohashing per rig, cube or card?


Title: Re: A4 Drop Card Issues - Jig Reflash Thread
Post by: Longsnowsm on December 19, 2016, 03:55:21 PM
I know Chris is listed as being in State College PA.  So you could probably use 16801 zipcode as a general idea of what shipping to Prohashing would cost.

I am trying to get some clarification from Inno about something right now regarding shipping.  I will keep you posted on that. 


Title: Re: A4 Drop Card Issues - Jig Reflash Thread
Post by: usao on December 19, 2016, 03:57:25 PM
I know Chris is listed as being in State College PA.  So you could probably use 16801 zipcode as a general idea of what shipping to Prohashing would cost.

I am trying to get some clarification from Inno about something right now regarding shipping.  I will keep you posted on that. 

Do we need to contact Chris regarding scheduling so that he's not dumped on with dozens of machines all at once?
If so, can you PM me a contact for him? Thanks.


Title: Re: A4 Drop Card Issues - Jig Reflash Thread
Post by: Eyedol-X on December 19, 2016, 04:34:31 PM
I know Chris is listed as being in State College PA.  So you could probably use 16801 zipcode as a general idea of what shipping to Prohashing would cost.

I am trying to get some clarification from Inno about something right now regarding shipping.  I will keep you posted on that.  

Do we need to contact Chris regarding scheduling so that he's not dumped on with dozens of machines all at once?
If so, can you PM me a contact for him? Thanks.

My thoughts on the order of operations for this reflash timeline:

  • Longsnowsm receives Jig
  • Longsnowsm takes high res pictures of requested areas made by Mjgraham
  • Mjgraham determines if a DIY reflasher can built
  • If Yes > Jig may need to go to MjGraham first > Then on to Chris@PH
  • If No > Jig goes to Chris@PH
  • Chris@PH sets up timeline and scheduling for members/customers needing reflashing
  • Fees? Costs? - TBD

If Mjgraham can make a DIY reflasher, I'd opt to go that route before sending to Chris@PH just because it saves time and costs overall.


Title: Re: A4 Drop Card Issues - Jig Reflash Thread
Post by: firehawk71 on December 19, 2016, 04:53:41 PM
I know Chris is listed as being in State College PA.  So you could probably use 16801 zipcode as a general idea of what shipping to Prohashing would cost.

I am trying to get some clarification from Inno about something right now regarding shipping.  I will keep you posted on that.  

Do we need to contact Chris regarding scheduling so that he's not dumped on with dozens of machines all at once?
If so, can you PM me a contact for him? Thanks.

My thoughts on the order of operations for this reflash timeline:

  • Longsnowsm receives Jig
  • Longsnowsm takes high res pictures of requested areas made by Mjgraham
  • Mjgraham determines if a DIY reflasher can built
  • If Yes > Jig may need to go to MjGraham first > Then on to Chris@PH
  • If No > Jig goes to Chris@PH
  • Chris@PH sets up timeline and scheduling for members/customers needing reflashing
  • Fees? Costs? - TBD

If Mjgraham can make a DIY reflasher, I'd opt to go that route before sending to Chris@PH just because it saves time and costs overall.
A DIY re-flash is a great idea if it can be done. But I do not see how it would save time and cost overall as sending to Chris is now and DIY kit will take time and money then the kits will need to be shipped if they can even do it which is no guarrentee. Meanwhile we are waiting when cards could be getting flashed... Every day that the jig is not working is time waisted. My personal felling is it is better to get everyone re-flashed first. Then once there is no more demand for Prohash service I am sure he would be happy to ship the jig back to whoever for the purpose of studing the Jig and making a DIY kit.. But I think its more practical to get everyone fixed asap.


Title: Re: A4 Drop Card Issues - Jig Reflash Thread
Post by: Eyedol-X on December 19, 2016, 05:28:17 PM
I know Chris is listed as being in State College PA.  So you could probably use 16801 zipcode as a general idea of what shipping to Prohashing would cost.

I am trying to get some clarification from Inno about something right now regarding shipping.  I will keep you posted on that.  

Do we need to contact Chris regarding scheduling so that he's not dumped on with dozens of machines all at once?
If so, can you PM me a contact for him? Thanks.

My thoughts on the order of operations for this reflash timeline:

  • Longsnowsm receives Jig
  • Longsnowsm takes high res pictures of requested areas made by Mjgraham
  • Mjgraham determines if a DIY reflasher can built
  • If Yes > Jig may need to go to MjGraham first > Then on to Chris@PH
  • If No > Jig goes to Chris@PH
  • Chris@PH sets up timeline and scheduling for members/customers needing reflashing
  • Fees? Costs? - TBD

If Mjgraham can make a DIY reflasher, I'd opt to go that route before sending to Chris@PH just because it saves time and costs overall.
A DIY re-flash is a great idea if it can be done. But I do not see how it would save time and cost overall as sending to Chris is now and DIY kit will take time and money then the kits will need to be shipped if they can even do it which is no guarrentee. Meanwhile we are waiting when cards could be getting flashed... Every day that the jig is not working is time waisted. My personal felling is it is better to get everyone re-flashed first. Then once there is no more demand for Prohash service I am sure he would be happy to ship the jig back to whoever for the purpose of studing the Jig and making a DIY kit.. But I think its more practical to get everyone fixed asap.

Well if what Mjgraham has said is an option, for ~$30 and a few minutes of your time, you can fix it yourself. Saves a lot of time taking your miner down, taking it apart, and then shipping it off to PH.

Mjgraham even said it may be possible to do without complete disassembly of the miner.

This is all speculation right now until the photos are taken that show where the jig connects/how it connects.


Title: Re: A4 Drop Card Issues - Jig Reflash Thread
Post by: usao on December 19, 2016, 05:31:42 PM

A DIY re-flash is a great idea if it can be done. But I do not see how it would save time and cost overall as sending to Chris is now and DIY kit will take time and money then the kits will need to be shipped if they can even do it which is no guarrentee. Meanwhile we are waiting when cards could be getting flashed... Every day that the jig is not working is time waisted. My personal felling is it is better to get everyone re-flashed first. Then once there is no more demand for Prohash service I am sure he would be happy to ship the jig back to whoever for the purpose of studing the Jig and making a DIY kit.. But I think its more practical to get everyone fixed asap.

Until we know the costs for either option it's hard to say.
However, if the turnaround time is 2 weeks (2-way shipping + flash time on site, lost mining) as well as multiple rigs (multiple shipping), then it could possibly be cheaper/faster with a DYI rig.
Additionally, if I had my own DYI rig, I would feel much more comfortable about buying extra rigs going forward as I know I would have a quick/easy way to flash them.
That said, if the Inno rig is so expensive, why do we think we could build a DYI rig for cheaper? Wouldn't they have done that already?


Title: Re: A4 Drop Card Issues - Jig Reflash Thread
Post by: Chris Sokolowski on December 19, 2016, 06:29:37 PM
If I can get the jig, I can turn around miners on the same day.  Prohashing is my full-time job and I have nothing else that would delay me.  I know the lost revenue of having these miners offline, and I won't take any longer than necessary.

I am working on creating an online order form so I can track everyone sending miners and provide individualized status updates to each person.  Shipping would be to State College, PA 16803.  However, I don't want to have anyone send me a miner until I have the jig.  After I receive the jig, I initially want only one person to send a miner because I will need to learn to use the jig and I don't want others' miners sitting idle while I learn to use it.

After we have confirmed that all the miners have been flashed, I would be happy to pass the jig onto the next person.


Title: Re: A4 Drop Card Issues - Jig Reflash Thread
Post by: mjgraham on December 19, 2016, 08:29:54 PM
I know Chris is listed as being in State College PA.  So you could probably use 16801 zipcode as a general idea of what shipping to Prohashing would cost.

I am trying to get some clarification from Inno about something right now regarding shipping.  I will keep you posted on that.  

Do we need to contact Chris regarding scheduling so that he's not dumped on with dozens of machines all at once?
If so, can you PM me a contact for him? Thanks.

My thoughts on the order of operations for this reflash timeline:

  • Longsnowsm receives Jig
  • Longsnowsm takes high res pictures of requested areas made by Mjgraham
  • Mjgraham determines if a DIY reflasher can built
  • If Yes > Jig may need to go to MjGraham first > Then on to Chris@PH
  • If No > Jig goes to Chris@PH
  • Chris@PH sets up timeline and scheduling for members/customers needing reflashing
  • Fees? Costs? - TBD

If Mjgraham can make a DIY reflasher, I'd opt to go that route before sending to Chris@PH just because it saves time and costs overall.

I think it is OK to send it to Chris, they can at least start, maybe when the first wave of updates die down I could take a look at it. I would like to have all the associated software, does anyone have any idea what were getting? We know the jig but a laptop? software to install on something? I can make my jig pretty easily, I have already taken apart one module so I can get my measurements off that, plus I have access to a circuit board mill so I can make it pretty easily.  Of course were talking far more crude but hopefully effective.


I hope and I think I'll ask if they are going to let us have any lower level access to the drivers or firmware, I do a lot of command line use of things and this new cgminer has a lot of strange things associated with it that are undocumented, plus I think it was a bare bones get it going attempt.


Until we know the costs for either option it's hard to say.
However, if the turnaround time is 2 weeks (2-way shipping + flash time on site, lost mining) as well as multiple rigs (multiple shipping), then it could possibly be cheaper/faster with a DYI rig.
Additionally, if I had my own DYI rig, I would feel much more comfortable about buying extra rigs going forward as I know I would have a quick/easy way to flash them.
That said, if the Inno rig is so expensive, why do we think we could build a DYI rig for cheaper? Wouldn't they have done that already?

My guess is this is something they use, just set it in push the contacts in and press go, may have advanced diagnostics on the boards and be able to do more than just flash, I can't really imagine what would make it cost more than $1000 but who knows , I wonder what is in the bottom of the box.

At the least getting one board upgraded to B3 with the jig  should be able to pull the firmware off and use that.

It would be nice to know if there are any , it didn't make the shipping, firmware update smoked it , this think doesn't work at all kind of replacement from someone, I don't have any reason not to trust anyone but sometimes things just don't upgrade happily or survive the trip.


Title: Re: A4 Drop Card Issues - Jig Reflash Thread
Post by: Longsnowsm on December 20, 2016, 03:18:35 AM
The jig arrived very late this afternoon.  It is even more flimsy in real life than in the pics.  I was frankly surprised it made it from China in one piece given it's construction.  It didn't come with instructions, but I was able to figure it out from previous posts.  Inno just emailed me the instructions, but I already had the miners flashed by the time I noticed they had already replied to my question about instructions.

The process to flash the boards themselves is very fast. Maybe 45 seconds per board.  Sometimes the board will give you an error rapid flashing from your board.  Don't freak out just repeat the process until the board checks out.  It took me more time to disconnect everything, find a place to work on them, download the latest v2.0.2, and disassemble the cubes than it did anything else.  I think if we get a bunch of these in at one time you could setup an assembly line and flash them all in a day or two pretty easy. 

Now for the bad news on the re-engineering this jig.  i don't think you can do it.  The bottom box that you see in the pictures actually contains an A4 hashing board.  It appears they copying the image from another board they already upgraded.  I took some pics that I hope will be close enough that you can see how it is connected.  I have my doubts that a cheaper alternative can be built based on what I can see.  But then again I am no electronics expert so I will let you guys be the judge. 

So my A4's have been flashed and they are up and pointed at Prohashing.  So far so good.  I have been in touch with Inno and Chris at Prohashing and we are getting things lined up for the jig and flashing.  We will keep you guys posted as more of this story develops. 


Title: Re: A4 Drop Card Issues - Jig Reflash Thread
Post by: mjgraham on December 20, 2016, 04:07:28 AM
The jig arrived very late this afternoon.  It is even more flimsy in real life than in the pics.  I was frankly surprised it made it from China in one piece given it's construction.  It didn't come with instructions, but I was able to figure it out from previous posts.  Inno just emailed me the instructions, but I already had the miners flashed by the time I noticed they had already replied to my question about instructions.

The process to flash the boards themselves is very fast. Maybe 45 seconds per board.  Sometimes the board will give you an error rapid flashing from your board.  Don't freak out just repeat the process until the board checks out.  It took me more time to disconnect everything, find a place to work on them, download the latest v2.0.2, and disassemble the cubes than it did anything else.  I think if we get a bunch of these in at one time you could setup an assembly line and flash them all in a day or two pretty easy. 

Now for the bad news on the re-engineering this jig.  i don't think you can do it.  The bottom box that you see in the pictures actually contains an A4 hashing board.  It appears they copying the image from another board they already upgraded.  I took some pics that I hope will be close enough that you can see how it is connected.  I have my doubts that a cheaper alternative can be built based on what I can see.  But then again I am no electronics expert so I will let you guys be the judge. 

So my A4's have been flashed and they are up and pointed at Prohashing.  So far so good.  I have been in touch with Inno and Chris at Prohashing and we are getting things lined up for the jig and flashing.  We will keep you guys posted as more of this story develops. 

Well at least it made it and it worked, I am guessing it is a stand a lone rig, turn it on and put the card in and go? if so must just clone the memory from one board to the other, still might be doable for a cheaper model but will have to have a v3 board to copy from. May have one of mine upgraded then try from there. I main problem has been out of the 6 modules I have about 1/3 of the hash boards don't want to work , power it up and get a red LED blip then there off , software detects the board but there is only like 4 chips that report back out of 20 so who knows on that.

Good job looking forward to the pics at least.


Title: Re: A4 Drop Card Issues - Jig Reflash Thread
Post by: Longsnowsm on December 20, 2016, 12:28:59 PM
I just received an email from Inno asking me to hold off shipping the jig pending instructions from them.  They didn't state why or provide any details at the moment.  So I am in a holding pattern at the moment awaiting their instructions.   


Title: Re: A4 Drop Card Issues - Jig Reflash Thread
Post by: Eyedol-X on December 20, 2016, 02:59:33 PM
Interested to see the pics here too.

I'm wondering if the issue Mjgraham described where the boards aren't working is because they failed to properly flash them in the first place, it seems like their flashing process is a little wonky.

On one hand, good news is we have a jig stateside that works

...on the other hand, there are questions and concerns why Inno would put the brakes on us reshipping it unless they are going to be releasing another update.



Title: Re: A4 Drop Card Issues - Jig Reflash Thread
Post by: firehawk71 on December 20, 2016, 03:47:48 PM
I just received an email from Inno asking me to hold off shipping the jig pending instructions from them.  They didn't state why or provide any details at the moment.  So I am in a holding pattern at the moment awaiting their instructions.   
Just curious after you have used it and seen it. Is it that delicate in your mind that it should not be shipped around? Man you made it sound so easy and fast.. Is it very heavy and what size is the box?


Title: Re: A4 Drop Card Issues - Jig Reflash Thread
Post by: Longsnowsm on December 20, 2016, 04:42:23 PM
The box isn't huge, and it isn't heavy.  But the way this is setup you have all the wires exposed, pins are just hot glued and core components are exposed.  They protected the hashing board that comes with it in the box below which is good.  They really were just trying to get something out to us as quickly as possible from the looks of this.  

Here is what Inno had to say:
Quote
Just want to inform you please keep the jig on your site now. Because we need some time to figure out what is the best solution for this upgrade with prohashing.

There is so many details during the upgrade.
But since we want to make it a easier for customers, just give us some time.

We will let you know the progress soon.

So it sounds like they may be working on a better solution.  It really does look like they are going out of their way to get this fixed.

Here are some pics of the jig:
https://i.imgur.com/eSwGKGm.jpg (https://i.imgur.com/eSwGKGm.jpg)
http://imgur.com/eSwGKGm.jpg (http://imgur.com/eSwGKGm.jpg)
http://imgur.com/yPIRn8s.jpg (http://imgur.com/yPIRn8s.jpg)
http://imgur.com/xuw7ANA.jpg (http://imgur.com/xuw7ANA.jpg)
http://imgur.com/2n8YQS5.jpg (http://imgur.com/2n8YQS5.jpg)
http://imgur.com/rsEZllP.jpg (http://imgur.com/rsEZllP.jpg)
http://imgur.com/UyByY94.jpg (http://imgur.com/UyByY94.jpg)
http://imgur.com/AgwvpZx.jpg (http://imgur.com/AgwvpZx.jpg)  

  


Title: Re: A4 Drop Card Issues - Jig Reflash Thread
Post by: firehawk71 on December 20, 2016, 05:36:46 PM
Nice photos. Thanks for sharing... Yes I agree that looks like something that was put together very fast.. I sure do not see how they consider it so valuble..It must be because it has a real hashing card inside of it.. That is the only thing of value that I can think of..That thing looks very cheap... If they could figure out a way to just put the program information on a SD card or something and not use a actual hash card the cost would be much much less


Title: Re: A4 Drop Card Issues - Jig Reflash Thread
Post by: Eyedol-X on December 20, 2016, 05:51:31 PM
The box isn't huge, and it isn't heavy.  But the way this is setup you have all the wires exposed, pins are just hot glued and core components are exposed.  They protected the hashing board that comes with it in the box below which is good.  They really were just trying to get something out to us as quickly as possible from the looks of this.  

Here is what Inno had to say:
Quote
Just want to inform you please keep the jig on your site now. Because we need some time to figure out what is the best solution for this upgrade with prohashing.

There is so many details during the upgrade.
But since we want to make it a easier for customers, just give us some time.

We will let you know the progress soon.

So it sounds like they may be working on a better solution.  It really does look like they are going out of their way to get this fixed.

Here are some pics of the jig:
https://i.imgur.com/eSwGKGm.jpg (https://i.imgur.com/eSwGKGm.jpg)
http://imgur.com/eSwGKGm.jpg (http://imgur.com/eSwGKGm.jpg)
http://imgur.com/yPIRn8s.jpg (http://imgur.com/yPIRn8s.jpg)
http://imgur.com/xuw7ANA.jpg (http://imgur.com/xuw7ANA.jpg)
http://imgur.com/2n8YQS5.jpg (http://imgur.com/2n8YQS5.jpg)
http://imgur.com/rsEZllP.jpg (http://imgur.com/rsEZllP.jpg)
http://imgur.com/UyByY94.jpg (http://imgur.com/UyByY94.jpg)
http://imgur.com/AgwvpZx.jpg (http://imgur.com/AgwvpZx.jpg)  

  

This is some great news, maybe they will send a jig directly to PH?

These photos... all I have to say is WOW@Inno when I see them...
https://s30.postimg.org/t9cbzxyr5/Wow.jpg


Title: Re: A4 Drop Card Issues - Jig Reflash Thread
Post by: mjgraham on December 20, 2016, 05:57:44 PM
Well it is interesting for sure, I am guessing you just put the card in and hit a  button? how does it get power , does it even need any computer interaction other than maybe power? I wonder what is in the tape blob, at any rate I milled out a board to see if my test pins line up and will check that , spring pins are not to terrible to buy, only need 4 connections really don't know which ones they are hooked to under that big booger on top. But at least it exists and works so we have that.


Title: Re: A4 Drop Card Issues - Jig Reflash Thread
Post by: firehawk71 on December 20, 2016, 07:34:21 PM
Well it is interesting for sure, I am guessing you just put the card in and hit a  button? how does it get power , does it even need any computer interaction other than maybe power? I wonder what is in the tape blob, at any rate I milled out a board to see if my test pins line up and will check that , spring pins are not to terrible to buy, only need 4 connections really don't know which ones they are hooked to under that big booger on top. But at least it exists and works so we have that.
I saw another photo that looked like it gets its power from a USB port on a laptop? I saw plugs going into laptop but think its for power only..Just a guess


Title: Re: A4 Drop Card Issues - Jig Reflash Thread
Post by: Longsnowsm on December 20, 2016, 08:41:27 PM
Yes, the laptop USB is only for power.  I think when people see the pictures they will understand why shipping the jig around is not a good idea! LOL


Title: Re: A4 Drop Card Issues - Jig Reflash Thread
Post by: lightfoot on December 20, 2016, 11:00:55 PM
Clever. I was wondering what they used as a micro-controller to manage the data transfer. Oddly enough it's the CPU on the bottom card that manages the transfer. Everything else on the card is a dunsel.

Sure it's quickly built but let's face it: Sounds like they want to fix this problem ASAP. My guess is for the production units they order the chips flashed at the factory before mounting on the board. Saves a big step in production.


Title: Re: A4 Drop Card Issues - Jig Reflash Thread
Post by: Eyedol-X on December 21, 2016, 09:24:46 AM
Cross posting this here as I don't think Inno has yet noticed this thread but this is information relative to this thread.

I followed up on my e-mail to Chloe from a week ago and cc'd the person indicated this time around. I never got a response to my last e-mail so if you opt to e-mail direct for a jig, make sure you stay on top of it.

Hi All,

We have solved the restart and reboot problem in batch 3. No update in hardware but the firmware in STM32 MCU and SD card both have updates. SD card update is easy, but the MCU update will need a special equipment.
 
For the customers who bought the Batch 1&2 A4 LTC miners from us, we have a jig for you to do a simple upgrade. If you need this service, please contact us at zhangq@innosilicon.com.cn and cc luojm@innosilicon.com.cn, we will arrange the delivery of jig to you one by one.
 
If you are not in our customer list, i.e. you purchased your miner from an agent, please go to your agent and let your agent contact us.

Thanks,
Innosilicon


Title: Re: A4 Drop Card Issues - Jig Reflash Thread
Post by: Longsnowsm on December 22, 2016, 12:31:34 PM
I am cross posting this here from the pre-buy thread:

Ok, so I received an email from Inno.  If you are on the mailing list for Inno having bought miners directly from them it appears they are going to send you a jig directly. 

I replied back just to get clarification, but that appears to be what they are doing now.  It was a mass mailing and not directed at me specifically since I have already received a jig.  So if you received that email from Inno please reply back to it with the info they requested so that you can get a jig sent to you.  Plus it looks like they will offer a small discount on your next order.

The process with the jig isn't complicated and I think anyone can do it.  It is more time consuming to disconnect everything, pull apart the miners, and reassemble everything and connect it back up than the flashing is.  So this is good news if it is correct.   


Title: Re: A4 Drop Card Issues - Jig Reflash Thread
Post by: Eyedol-X on December 22, 2016, 02:18:17 PM
I am cross posting this here from the pre-buy thread:

Ok, so I received an email from Inno.  If you are on the mailing list for Inno having bought miners directly from them it appears they are going to send you a jig directly.  

I replied back just to get clarification, but that appears to be what they are doing now.  It was a mass mailing and not directed at me specifically since I have already received a jig.  So if you received that email from Inno please reply back to it with the info they requested so that you can get a jig sent to you.  Plus it looks like they will offer a small discount on your next order.

The process with the jig isn't complicated and I think anyone can do it.  It is more time consuming to disconnect everything, pull apart the miners, and reassemble everything and connect it back up than the flashing is.  So this is good news if it is correct.    

Well here is what I perceive to be some good news:

I have a copy of the e-mail/document they are requesting be signed and returned.

The short of it is they are going to send people Jig's with a signed agreement indicating that the recipient will not disassemble the Jig or keep it for personal use. The recipient is provided 5 days to flash their miners and then will be directed by Innosilicon to ship the Jig to the next person. It's a good faith agreement that the recipient will keep the Jig in good working order and report any issues immediately to Innosilicon.

Also in the agreement, Innosilicon will reimburse the shipping costs you pay to ship the Jig to the next customer in the form LTC.

It's not perfect but IMO this seems to be the best way Innosilicon can get this done -- the question is now, how many Jig's will the ship to the USA before they tell people they now have to wait in line.



Title: Re: A4 Drop Card Issues - Jig Reflash Thread
Post by: toptek on December 23, 2016, 02:21:33 AM
wow that is nice of them to let you use there jig those thing can cost a ton ...then return it i wonder how long that will happen till some low life mess up that trust for a few bucks .

That a lone makes me want a A4 more every day even if it just the 136 MH version which I plan to buy next year .


Title: Re: A4 Drop Card Issues - Jig Reflash Thread
Post by: Longsnowsm on December 23, 2016, 02:47:23 AM
I honestly think this says a lot that Inno is sending out jigs like this.  Looking at this jig it is clear it cost them some money, time, and effort to make these things.  My hat is off to Inno for putting together something like this to fix our miners, but this has turned out to be a costly mistake for them.

Since flashing my miners they have been stable, no restarts, no dropped boards.  However they still are not hashing anywhere near the advertised hash rate.  That still needs to be addressed. 

The other wild card in the back of my mind is the concern over how they are going to work this next summer during the heat.  These miners seem like they are very sensitive to the temps.  We have not had these miners during the warmer months so this is a question that still remains to be answered in my mind unless some of our friends in the southern hemisphere can chime in and tell us how their miners are doing in the summer heat there. 

 


Title: Re: A4 Drop Card Issues - Jig Reflash Thread
Post by: firehawk71 on December 23, 2016, 07:22:49 AM
I honestly think this says a lot that Inno is sending out jigs like this.  Looking at this jig it is clear it cost them some money, time, and effort to make these things.  My hat is off to Inno for putting together something like this to fix our miners, but this has turned out to be a costly mistake for them.

Since flashing my miners they have been stable, no restarts, no dropped boards.  However they still are not hashing anywhere near the advertised hash rate.  That still needs to be addressed. 

The other wild card in the back of my mind is the concern over how they are going to work this next summer during the heat.  These miners seem like they are very sensitive to the temps.  We have not had these miners during the warmer months so this is a question that still remains to be answered in my mind unless some of our friends in the southern hemisphere can chime in and tell us how their miners are doing in the summer heat there. 

 
I agree about the heat issue...When I first got my miners we were having pretty warm weather and mine are out in the garage..I was running on Prohash and on warm days they would run for about a hour then the hash rate would drop way down then new software just made them start rebooting but I was dropping cards all day long... About a week ago we had 1 degree temps and they ran on prohash much much better.
If you check the specs from the factory it says max operating temp is 40c. In the very cold mine were running 29c 30c but when it was warm I was hitting close to 50c.. So if its true they don't like temps above 40c this will be a problem in the summer for sure.


Title: Re: A4 Drop Card Issues - Jig Reflash Thread
Post by: Eyedol-X on December 23, 2016, 02:05:33 PM
I honestly think this says a lot that Inno is sending out jigs like this.  Looking at this jig it is clear it cost them some money, time, and effort to make these things.  My hat is off to Inno for putting together something like this to fix our miners, but this has turned out to be a costly mistake for them.

Since flashing my miners they have been stable, no restarts, no dropped boards.  However they still are not hashing anywhere near the advertised hash rate.  That still needs to be addressed.  

The other wild card in the back of my mind is the concern over how they are going to work this next summer during the heat.  These miners seem like they are very sensitive to the temps.  We have not had these miners during the warmer months so this is a question that still remains to be answered in my mind unless some of our friends in the southern hemisphere can chime in and tell us how their miners are doing in the summer heat there.  

  

In regards to advertised hash rate, correct me if I'm wrong but they advertise 136.8MH +/- 5% on label.

When my B2 units are working properly(no dropped cards) combined they hash around 270MH consistently and have spikes well above that.

I see everywhere that Inno has 2 of these listed for 280MH... I think what we are dealing with here is someone that's just bad at math and no one caught it in their marketing.

136.8 + 136.8 = ~273.6 with +/- 5% is 259.9MH on the low end and 287.2MH on the high end.

https://s28.postimg.org/ef0jnx4v1/A4_136mh.jpg
https://s24.postimg.org/d92lu9akl/A4_273mh.jpg


Title: Re: A4 Drop Card Issues - Jig Reflash Thread
Post by: Longsnowsm on December 23, 2016, 02:28:15 PM
My average on Litecoinpool was around 250ish.  On Prohashing I am seeing a lot of time spent in the 240ish hashing range.  Once in a while it will catch a tail wind and be in the 260 range, but not often.  This is pool side.  On the miner it is trying to tell me after the flash update that it is hashing at 275mhs.  I call BS. 

If others are getting better rates I would love to know what settings you are using to do it.  :)


Title: Re: A4 Drop Card Issues - Jig Reflash Thread
Post by: Eyedol-X on January 03, 2017, 03:06:38 AM
I got the reflash Jig today and unboxed it, unfortunately it appears that the internal hasboard has come loose in shipping and some of the hot glue that was anchoring it is now loose and flopping around inside the case. I do not feel in its current state it's going to survive shipping again because there currently is only 1 piece of hot glue securing the hashboard internally at this time, the other 3 corners are free to move around. I'm sure a good jolt in shipping is going to cause this thing to come completely loose. I'm going to e-mail Innosilicon and recommend that we just ship this thing to Chris @ PH and see if the want me to re-secure the hashboard internally before shipping it again.

As it's been previously covered, it's pretty straight forward to reflash these things. I only had 1 board out of 4 that I did that didn't take the flash the first time. This was indicated when I powered the miner on and 1 board was rapidly flashing red. I removed the board and performed the update again and its fine now.

So far it's been performing well for about 6+ hours on PH -- I'm running it at home right now for testing so it's a little warmer than I normally have it operating at.
https://s5.postimg.org/iowacvew3/A4_6hrs_2_0_2.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/iowacvew3/)

Here is a picture of the hot glue pieces that have become dislodged
https://s5.postimg.org/jtlr4ibz7/20170102_131526.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/jtlr4ibz7/)

Wider shot of internal hash board with glue dislodged
https://s5.postimg.org/4macxw9ib/20170102_131537.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/4macxw9ib/)

Hash Board installed within the Jig
https://s5.postimg.org/56pe0l2qr/20170102_133541.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/56pe0l2qr/)

Inside the Jig underneath the cover
https://s5.postimg.org/8768h4e1v/20170102_131546.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/8768h4e1v/)

Couple Shots of the Jig
https://s5.postimg.org/fbo1q5lb7/20170102_131612.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/fbo1q5lb7/)

https://s5.postimg.org/5secwoxsz/20170102_131615_0.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/5secwoxsz/)

Close up of Pins
https://s5.postimg.org/eop50mof7/20170102_131627.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/eop50mof7/)

Close up of Pins alternate angle
https://s5.postimg.org/oaipgxfkz/20170102_131641.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/oaipgxfkz/)




Title: Re: A4 Drop Card Issues - Jig Reflash Thread
Post by: Eyedol-X on January 04, 2017, 02:35:03 AM
Well here is performance of A4 B3 reflash on Prohash for those interested.

Over 1 day running strong

I know the date is wrong in these graphics, haven't taken the opportunity to correctly set it.

https://s5.postimg.org/cpmbefy93/A4_1day_2_0_2.jpg


Title: Re: A4 Drop Card Issues - Jig Reflash Thread
Post by: Eyedol-X on January 11, 2017, 03:30:06 PM
Update:

I have shipped the Jig on to the next person.

When I received the Jig, the card inside had become detached and was only being held by 1 corner of glue. At the direction of Innosilicon I re-secured the Jig before shipping it to the next person.

I used specific flexible adhesive hot glue and not regular hot glue as the hot glue previously used got hard and had come off during the 1st shipment.

Here are some images below of the repair.

https://s5.postimg.org/5f0gd6dk3/20170108_153022.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/5f0gd6dk3/)

https://s5.postimg.org/4qrlu8eub/20170108_153047.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/4qrlu8eub/)

https://s5.postimg.org/dn2dy65gj/20170108_153056.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/dn2dy65gj/)


Title: Re: A4 Drop Card Issues - Jig Reflash Thread
Post by: mjgraham on January 14, 2017, 06:47:49 PM
I can't wait for it to arrive here, whenever that will be, I sent two boards off to be reflashed ahead of time to see if I could reflash my own but it didn't work. I am not a super expert at the ST MCUs maybe someone could tell me the memory areas to clone. I did the main program flash area 0x08000000-0x0807FFFF and it is the same but I just get a flashing LED which tells me the program must be running to some extent. Anyway the 2 weeks I was on vacation makes me programming them less important if the jig is almost here.


Title: Re: A4 Drop Card Issues - Jig Reflash Thread
Post by: mjgraham on January 25, 2017, 07:48:37 PM
Any latest word on where the jig is? of course that may be to open of a question, I am just anxious to get it.


Title: Re: A4 Drop Card Issues - Jig Reflash Thread
Post by: Eyedol-X on January 25, 2017, 08:07:21 PM
Not sure, I do know they were prepping to send a 2nd Jig to the USA and they are all on Holiday now I believe in China.

I assume that the Jig is gotta be on the way to 4th person by now but there is like a 2-3 day delay minimum each time it ships then 5-7 days with recipient.



Title: Re: A4 Drop Card Issues - Jig Reflash Thread
Post by: LBob on June 07, 2017, 04:57:09 AM
Hi. Is it all over with the firmware?


Title: Re: A4 Drop Card Issues - Jig Reflash Thread
Post by: Longsnowsm on June 08, 2017, 04:31:03 AM
As far as we know firmware should already be done.  If you have units still on the old firmware please reach out to Inno to request access to the jig to flash your boards.  They have been very helpful in getting this done. 


Title: Re: A4 Drop Card Issues - Jig Reflash Thread
Post by: Stepan163 on October 10, 2017, 12:13:20 PM

The guys read the next topic from the beginning to the end.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1523298.1280


And I want to express my great gratitude for the work done to all who took part.
Especially Longsnowsm
You did a great job !! Thank you.
 Tell me, I have Dominator A 4, how do I get a jig for the firmware.
I am in Russia.


Title: Re: A4 Drop Card Issues - Jig Reflash Thread
Post by: ZeroGee on October 20, 2017, 12:19:07 AM
I'm curious about buying a B2 A4 (incompatible with new SD card image releases) from a friend, and I'm curious about the status/possibility of getting it flashed with the jig. I'm surprised he hasn't pursued it, but he's looking to reinvest.

I've read through the thread. I'm an electrical engineer with SOME experience with ST MCUs, and a fair amount of experience modifying A2s, and I'm under the impression that there has not been enough released information, official or otherwise, to make a DIY solution on my own. I do not have the A4 in hand to tinker with, nor access to a B3 A4 to get a good image from even if I had setup a rig to flash the B2 from it.