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I have been trying out the martingale strategy for dice but was wondering if anyone has a good modified martingale strategy or any other ideas to try.

If I'm not wrong, there are couple threads already in this section discussing this martingale method. You can get more details from those threads.

As per me, there is not such thing called good working or modified method available to win money from dice game because it always changes and one can't predict the next result, and you can win only if you're lucky. So no meaning in searching for working method to making money from a dice game.

I'm not sure there are any good modified method especially with martingale, but i found these threads and i think these should be enough for your refference Alternative for martingale? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1496022.0) and Anybody Use REVERSE Martingale? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1510533.0)

Yeah, try to use the search function instead of posting right away a new thread.

But regards the question, there are modified martingale strategies out there. But there are no "good" strategies out there. All, and I mean all, gambling systems will lose against the house and you can't do anything about it. In the end every system will lose. Check out the site of the wizardofodds. They test a lot of systems there. They even wage against the gambling system creator if their gambling system wins after N-number of tries they will pay the creator.

No.

Each bet on a dice site has a negative expected value.

Each bet on a dice site is an independent event.

There is no way to combine independent bets with negative expectations to give you a positive expectation.

If there was a way to beat the house, the house would be broken.

of course no , unless if you do martingale not continuously.
i mean to use martingale betting system in short time with a low percentage bet amount from your bankroll.
for example do martingale with bet amount of 0.01 out of your 10 bitcoin bankroll means it is 0.1 percent! and stop martingale when you have got 1 percent.

It doesn't matter how small the% of your bankroll you are using in martingale. It still takes 10 wins to get up 1% and a losing streak of about 10-20 to lose ALL of your bankroll. Do you really want to risk losing 10 bitcoin for a chance to win 0.01 bitcoin? Personally I don't really like the odds and a long losing (or winning for that matter) is more likely than you might think.

martingale isnt a good method.
is basically big losses and small winnings... so in the long run, it will always end up bad.

if someone have a good "modified" strategy, and i'm sure he will not publish here for free.

I just only heard about martingale and reversed martingale and I don't know any other martingale beside on the two. Ive used already this method I could really say that its not really good to rely soo much on this method because it wont guarantee you profits on long terms infact this method will even lose all your bankroll in an instant specially when losing streaks that's why I don't use this method anytime.

i think there is no good modified martingale strategy for dice because as far as i know, for dice games, there is no spesific strategy to win the games and only need our luck to get winning. i think its not easy to apply some strategy in a games that only have a luck factor chance to winning the games, its better to play with no strategy and maybe we have a big chance to win.

Martingale doesn't work as a strategy. These strategies are actually ways you can try your luck, but trust me: none of them work unless you got luck. I have tried as many "strategies" as I could when I was gambling and I almost never won anything with them. Most profit was from manual or automated bets, with my own "strategy".. :D

Antimartingale. Martingale or not, you will eventually lose in the long run, and I am sure you know that.
But with Anti martingale your bets sizes are small and only increase if you win. So its the only strategy where you will last the longest.

the longer you can take inside this strategy the better option you can have to keep changing your bet time is big nemesis when we are using martingale as we knew that any moment we will be able lose certain bet so with this martingale we also needed to keep changing the amount make a combo from time to time and see how you take the advantage.

Martingale strategy will not work for longer term for sure or better to say no any strategy will work on dice sites. Better to play with some random multiplier rather than trying to make some profit with strategy. I have lost several times in dice when i was trying to make few bucks playing with different strategy, works for few rolls and lost all at end.

Percentage doesn't matter. Bad bets are bad bets. Every bet on a dice site is a bad bet. There is no way to arrange independent, bad bets to be good bets.

Actually there are only stretagy to gamble with Bitcoin in casino is to increment in your bet by ×2 if you loss your bet .
Secondly take eye on the Profit %  . Because there is a factor of house edge which gives us limit to earn Bitcoin at that gambling site . If you will cross house edge of site then you will loss every bet .

Don't put too much faith (gamble too much money) based on any strategy. Sure there are better ways to gamble than others but you never see a poor bookie.

Hilarious to see this dude here trying to come up with something that seems like its a fact whereas he doesn't have a clue what House edge even means.

@MC , martingale(and any modified versions of it) is(/are) the worst ways to throw your money down the dump(which is not saying much as all strats will eventually lead to that result). There are a few "safe" strategies, which allow you to get over with a tiny profit even with a huge loss streak but don't aim for making much of a profit(in the short term that is) with it.

You need to understand one practical fact. Martingale strategy or any of its modified versions are so good when you are having "enough" bankroll. Because you need to withstand higher bet amounts when your luck is not favoring yourself.

So, I guess there will not be any meaning in searching for a good modified martingale strategy as it is already within our reach.

There is different strategies for dices, martingale is most famous, but you have inverse martingale and others.
https://www.bitroll.co/bitcoin-dice-betting-strategies/ (https://www.bitroll.co/bitcoin-dice-betting-strategies/)
On this site you can find nice explanation about other strategies, you have many sites that mostly write about same things, but you can try to search it, there is always something new.

There may be lots of strategies will be available but if you're looking for a good one then you may end up disappointed only.

If you ask me, martingale is a very good strategy and if you are doing it in player vs player games in real life, definitely you will get chances to make profits. But, I do not know how gambling sites are managing for such long losing streak to throw us away.

As for me, even in situation player vs player martingale will eventually go wrong. Someone usually thinks that a small chance for loss is just a small, merely absence of it. He overuses it and at the end he can't understand how it comes to loss, when he was all the time trying the luck. So, martingale can by effective, but only by the luck, when you know your and the strategy limits.

I think that no strategy is working perfectly and at the end its about the luck you have with you, without luck you will not win anything for sure.

Gambling is very boring when no strategy is being use, I never gamble without strategy or on what they called fully relying on luck. I feel like gambling is a good challenge and once I can win, it's already a big achievement on my part. I used martingale before but it does not work with dice and I understand why, it's because of the house edge. But to tell, it works like a chart in sports betting.

Martingale doesn't work on sports betting because if you think it does there is definitely a house edge when you make sports bets.

Again I've been trying to discuss this everytime people do tackle about the dice strategy which martiangle. I only added othe systemw which is called paroli. Paroli system usually happens when you when 3x straight  or after a lose you go back to base bet.

there are lots of ideas but as long as you remember none of them are 100% working strategies, you can use all of them. try to mostly have fun with gambling dice for example you can make random bets and it seems to be the most popular strategy nowadays (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1720702.0)
you can also always change the starting bet size based on your bankroll to come up with a newer and safer or less safe strategy.

What is the benefit of returning to base after 3x straight wins? Do you double your bet every time you win?

Can you show some maths that show us that is it profitable if you had an infinite wallet?

Yes, I do double my bet every bet. This is good strategy if you are aiming to slowly bet the odds, another plus for this tactics is that it could reduce your losing streak(which means that it could also lessen your lose). Consider three bets as 1 round so every round comes with different results. Although this strategy does not give you that high profit as the traditional martiangle do yet it would lessen the risk %

I like your idea when you are at 1 percent of it, you stop with that strategy then turn into another one, is that what you're saying? I think that could work. Have you tried that already? Have you been successful?

unfortunately no, no matter what martingale strategy you used you will end up losing, martingale can be used for a short term and you need to have big bankroll, the different martingale strategy is only can prolonged your winning time, and to be honest there are no strategy that could make you win from the house, so if you think of getting profit from martingale you better think again

None, there's no any "good" when you're asking about martinshit strategy. That strategy only make you busted if you're gambling on dice game. Even though reverse martinshit, modified or whatever its called, it's still shit strategy.

in my experience the result you get from martingale strategy only depends on how big your bankroll is compared to your initial bet size. and most people who are hating this strategy is hating it because they didn't pay attention to this simple rule.

although they are not all wrong, martingale strategy is not the best thing you can find and there still is a high risk of losing but if you increase your bankroll and decrease your bet size to increase their difference you are giving yourself a better shot at not losing all your bankroll.

Martiangle strategy are too risky because sometimes the more you try to bet while getting straight lose is the bigger risk that you are going to bet high i don't think that this kind of martiangle will be the solution to win profit i don't even use even modified martiangle i always play on manual things that i know i can win.

it's mathematically impossible for it to be profitable.

To try what ? Win ? How ? There is no such strategy. There is no strategy at all infact. There are no special calculations or strategies or ways to win.
There is nothing you can do to gain an edge. All you can do is hope and pray you win.

for gambling, i think there are no good martingale strategy but for other games, i think it has another good strategy, but for me, i don't know any good modified martingale strategy as i don't good in playing gambling but i only play with my sense. i am trying to playing with my feeling to learn my skills and i hope i can hone skills with feeling will increase.

yeah if you do the math you’ll see that no matter how far along you are in the doubling process each time you win , in the end martingale eat the whole bankroll you have. so the best strategy to get profit in gambling is to never gamble actually! not martingale or another.

Even if it is not a guarantee, it is a method that people do not dare to apply easily. Because betting companies do not have very high rates of draw for teams with too much or too many leagues. Even if the hani best likes to find a team that continues to draw in 4-5 weeks, the profits you get may not be satisfactory. There are a lot of leagues, lots of leagues, but there are teams that do not draw for a very long time. Football does not guarantee that any team will be drawn 1 draw in 8 weeks, unfortunately.

What you are saying is true that using martingale or another thing in dice or any other games wont give you profit , better you can go with sports betting where you can atleast do some analysis of the matches and teams and calculate some bets and win and in poker you can use some strategy and win it.

Talking about dice game, if the original martingale isn't effective how far the modified one? Still they are playing under the provably fair system "in every rolls" so nothing changed. Martingale is not a technology that can be modified. The output of martingale will always be the same.

If you are looking on how can you increase the chances of your winning by using martingale then try sports betting instead. It's far more effective in sposts betting than putting that method in those house edge gambling games. The analyzation of course will come on yourself based on your research and proper betting. Not an assurance that it can give you always win but it can take your for a long run with a good win/loss record.

I think there's no modified martiangle that you can use to win in gambling website you need to create your own strategies and then play hard if you're willing to win big prizes from that gambling website enjoying the game if you wonder those video that uploaded on youtube don't believe it you always fool people.

you cannot use martingale in sports betting.

martingale does not work with bets with a negative expected value. If you think you can use martingale in sports betting, you are not smart enough to make sports bets with a positive expected value regularly. You may find one by accident, but you are probably making bad bets, and bad bets plus martingale equals losing.

you're obviously true that the point of this thread is OP has looking new strategy to increase his winning and i think strategy in gambling only makes people more confident when they starting gambling but regarding the results it will be unpredictable however using martingale for sport betting too have high risk because if you putting your money for high odds then it will automatically reduce your chance to win your bets because usually on sport betting high odds have low chance to win

in every type of betting high odds has a low chance of winning. That's how casinos make money, by paying out less than the actual odds.

Its just a common sense thing already and no gambling site doesnt have a house edge because they get profits on that.For me i could say there no good modified martingale strategy because theres no such good ways or methods that would able to make you profits overtime and thats the reality on playing gambling and i dont really use that methods.

i know it, since first time i will never suggest anyone to do martingale betting system.
i just share about my opinion on how modifying martingale , not suggesting to use it.
anyways 0.1 percent base bet isn't that bad , worth to try (for those who brave only) lol.

I didnt hear such gambling site that dont have a house edge and as you said there are no methods that you could able to take advantage into a certain gambling site because those martingale might work for sometimes but house will definitely bust you up and you will surely lose in the end if you are not lucky enough on that particular day.

There is modified martiangle but i don't think that can help you to win if you're wondering how its work then you need to figure it out by your own make your own strategies by doing random bets and analyzing the gambling it self. But if i were you don't use martiangle

Yup...everyday people try to modify this martingale system to minimize their lost but I am not sure if one of them already found the best one. For me, if we keep using this system for a longer time, we will end in a very bad result(lost much and cant cover it due to limited balance or max profit feature).

Yup...mexxer-2 beat me to this one. Don't listen to this guy claiming to understand the dynamics of the Martingale system....I think he's confusing house edge with the sites Kelly criterion limits or something.  Intuitively, the Martingale system and its variations might seem like a profitable strategy....but they are nothing but trouble because they rely upon long term investments which inevitably produce the variance which leads to extreme loss.  There are techniques that can be utilized in some instances to optimize a return on investment, but they should only be practiced by those who're mathematically competent.

"mathematically competent" people know that -ev bets are bad, so there is no technique to optimize a return on investment on a dice site besides being the casino.

No matter how many times you developed or modify the martingale system it wouldnt still work in longer runs just like what happen on most methods out there.Martingale or reversed martingale system are just ways that are being created to make some excitement on playing gambling because this method would somehow make your game time a longer time compare on playing all in.

Martingale will always suck the whole bankroll you have
If you have an unlimited bankroll then you will have an unlimited lost too , as simply as like that
Don't think you can win with that ridiculous method , it has proven didn't work in any ways
Especially if you gamble in dice using martingale betting system , it is a perfect wat to lost your money quickly.

Very true....When I say "optimize," I mean getting the very best value for a specific wagering progression...."optimizing" does not mean a guaranteed winning strategy in this context, but a strategy that offers the best risk/reward ratio possible.  If I were to play a dice site (I don't generally play -EV games), I would start by analyzing the sites Kelly Criteria, then I would manage my bankroll in such a way that optimizes my position.  You'd be surprised at the value you can find sometimes....

You could really find some value when you are trying to make some optimization since its already part of human nature that we could able to observe some ways when we are playing.Bankroll management is a good move since you will know on how you gonna utilize it and you will create a particular strategy on how to sustain it for more longer runs on playing.

no amount of modification can change anything about martingale strategy for you. it is a bad strategy. and the only modification that you can do to guarantee your winning not 100% but guarantee it like 80% is to start from 1 satoshi bets and have at least 20BTC in your bankroll.

But he never asked for a always winning strategy mate, I think the best modified strategy is to bet on 90% win chance and just increase the bet by 11 times on loose. And added to this if you have pre-rolls options available then start with pre-rolls and once 2 losses are already there then start the main betting, this way you would be much more safe and may end up winning.

Everything will end  up losing martinfail already proven that to most of us but in a short run some gamblers especially with the game that base with luck still using this strategy and whatever modification we did we are only risking our money and we always needed to be careful with our bankroll.

I have tried like more than 100 strategies in my gambling and I quite a lot agree with you since I have always given loss only even when I was betting at 98% win chances.

So, I also suggest while you can try as many strategies you want but actually none works. Each and every strategy has equal risks, just some work slowly and hence you feel winning while some are super quick and hence you loose lightening fast.

Best Strategy in puz dice is that we should be able to control your emotions because although we use any strategy if tempted to lust was difficult

i have been trying this strategy that i use a bigger multiplier and bet smaller amounts to test my luck and try and see if i can win a bigger prize. and in this method i plan to use different high level multipliers i have started using 100x for this week and i already have many bets. it is a good strategy if you can get lucky.

Actually you can modify martingale according to your style, for example when I bet with dice games I usually set my multiplier to 1.66 and 3x on loss and this way I feel much more comfortable and less risks, while if you technically see the risk is same and make no mistake I always loose too lol

You are right because the more you wager the more you are exposed to the house edge and hence more would be the loss, at least that's what maths says. So I also prefer some less bets like if I have 0.1 bankroll then I bet on 75% 0.005 and if loss I make 4x , basically what I mean to say is don't start with dust bets else you would always end up loosing.

It's not entirely true and I'm sure it's just a fantasy of you, as I am every time gambling always do bet more and it does not give a bad effect for me though after the game I don't benefit. But for sure you said was true, so to be able to do gambling then you should be able to master yourself from the possibility of being greed, for the key to be able to think clearly and use a good strategy is there in us that is by countering greed

That's odd, and that's why I don't believe in any type of strategies in gambling anymore. Even though you are going to modify martingale strategy and you are going to make your own one still the risk is not reducing. Because you still need mostly luck for every time that you are going to gamble, so I don't rely with those strategies.

Same here honestly in the first time when i was addicted in dice game i am always using martingale and experiment any settings in any different dice site.. that honestly it can not gives me any profit.. instead it can drain your wallet fast ..
This strategy for me is the worst thing and bad decision.. better to play in sports betting because you can analyze who win ..

Personally, i want to tell you, In martingale dice game has no strategy, because many time i play it, and in the end i reached the result, it is pure luck base game, In dice i don't think so anyone can say that i have strategy and always win from strategy wise, But if you want to check it out your luck than play it, otherwise don't think that you use the strategy and win in it. 

Because gambling is gambling. There is no strategy that will win in gambling. Statistics would tell us that there would be a chance that we would lose more than 100 times even at 90% chance of winning. It might be a very extremely low chance, but it will happen. So I think if you are playing anything just play it and don't ever think it. It's all just luck.

So you change only multiplier? most change bet when they use martingale strategy. i have tried many strategies, unfortunately none of them worked for me.

Yep, gambling is game of luck, so no strategy would work. it's better to just leave everything on luck when gambling/ play for fun heh.

Why many people are still believing in martingale strategy honestly it will work only if you gamble in sports betting but in any game like dice game it won't work because that game is base on luck.. there is no strategy work for those game because its a random result. unlike sports betting that you can analyze the game even you use the martingale strategy and i think it will be still work.

Honestly nothing will change even a gambler will modify the multiplier just to have another look or view at the martingale system. It will still fall under the provably fair system of a certain dice site no matter how technically designed the modification is.

Every best are all randomized so still whatever payout multiplier a gambler will applied will not give even a small amount of winning percentage. Comfortability? Maybe yes to give gambler a quiet thrill everytime they rolling out the bets.

Change the strategy every 5-10 minutes, don't use martingale many times 2x payout. I like to increase payout to x5 and decrease the bet increasement per loss. I can stay on game for more time doing it. But I don't use only it and I'm always changing the method.
You need to feel when you are too uncovered to change the method and continue on profit.

You can say it won't work, just look some reviews about methods like that, which you increase the payout (like x5, x100), gamblers are earning big with these new strategies.

Yes they are earning big with it but it is because they are lucky, no matter what is your strategy in dice then it will always depend on your luck. If you say that it is a guarantee winning strategy then you got it really wrong, simply because if the strategy is working without luck then many people will use it and all dice site will be died sooner.

Every martingale strategy will give you small return for very high risk of loosing your entire bankroll. I am trying to play something different, for example multiplier 20X and 500% raise on win. So far i hit few times 4 rolls in row, which is good because it can multiply initial bet by 500X, and it is easier to hit that than roll 99.8 one time, not to mention 1-2-3 in row or maybe more? Every roll is random, so who knows...Or maybe 100X multiplier with 1500% on win? That would be awesome to hit 2-3 times!

Martingale does not work it has been known for a long time there are three reasons for that, one the house edge works against you guarantying that you lose more than what you win, second the table limit and three your bankroll size will limit the number of times you can try the strategy.

the most important thing are a game like dice has negative expected value.

which means , there is no way you can win in the long run using this martingale strategy no matter you have modified or not. mathematically you have zero chance to success using martingale keep doubling your bet in dice. so just stay away.

The answer is no, there are tons of youtube video that taught how to earn from martingale, but never heard anyone got rich from martingale, the one that i heard was how many lost streak they got, so you better find another way to gamble

It will not work in sports gambling.

It will not work on any type of betting with a negative expected value.

Even if you are so good at sports betting that you have a positive expected value from each bet there are still two problems with martingale and that is how big is your bankroll, since you cannot keep betting forever and the limits of the website where you are betting, so if bad luck came your way you will be wiped out.

Yes, actually why gambling sites are managing to win so much is because in real life you cannot make 10000 bets in a day even if you flip a coin from morning to evening. The lesser the bets are the longer you survive and hence it feels like cheated when we loose on a gambling site.

martingale will not work on long runs it will only work on short terms , you need to have a large bankroll for classic martingale or modified one just use manual bet and you should be ok.

There is no guaranty that this martingale method will work for a short term as well because this game is a probably game so anytime you can get continuous losses and can wipe out your bankroll. In short, no methods will work in dice game just play manually this game to enjoy your free time.

It's all about timing and luck at the same time, any method is very necessary but not only a betting method. We must also make a method that will help us to manage ourselves during our gambling session. Setting a limit for winnings and loses will always help us to enjoy gambling.

No one has ever been successful in dice in the long run, that reality must be seriously considered for every gambler.

Normally i just 80% then go high on every lose i made it 1.25x

There are many variations of martingale, we can use reversed martingale called Paroli, Grand Martingale, mixing martingale etc.
Every single form of martingale I know is flawed and in the end will kick you in the nuts. If there was good gambling strategy then owning a casino would have been a charity instead of a business.

It is actually quite funny that casino operators at some point in time tried to limit players from using system betting, but in the end they noticed that martingale and its variations are not dangerous for the house.