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Title: U.S.A a nation of evil
Post by: Gibbar on December 26, 2016, 11:09:01 PM
Extremely disappointed in what has become or maybe always was a nation of evil.  Some of you are better than this I would like to think, though many of you are just monsters, that's for sure.


Title: Re: U.S.A a nation of evil
Post by: Tyrantt on December 26, 2016, 11:32:53 PM
Extremely disappointed in what has become or maybe always was a nation of evil.  Some of you are better than this I would like to think, though many of you are just monsters, that's for sure.

What are you talking about? is this becasue Trump was elected President or..?


Title: Re: U.S.A a nation of evil
Post by: Jimbola3 on December 26, 2016, 11:43:48 PM
It sounds alot like something that ISIS is ideology is built on. :-\


Title: Re: U.S.A a nation of evil
Post by: Gyro on December 27, 2016, 12:16:18 AM
I don't know about "a nation of evil" that is extreme.

USA is a product of history. Its a war monger country because of the outcome of WW2 and the cold war. Someone had to step up and deal with the euro bullshit so they put the big daddy pants on and are doing a great job world policing... But with Trump coming in that may change and China and Russia may need to step up. Who knows what will happen with Trump running shit.



Title: Re: U.S.A a nation of evil
Post by: Xester on December 28, 2016, 06:20:45 AM
There is no such thing as a nation of evil such as there are good and evil a nation can be both. Generalizing a country is not a good statement if there are bad americans there are also good americans, such as bad Europeans and Asians and good Europeans ans Asians.  It there are still good americans then USA cannot be called a nation of evil. But I cannot blame you for whatever hatred you have towards America maybe there is an intrinsic and deep reason why you are calling them that.


Title: Re: U.S.A a nation of evil
Post by: TheButterZone on December 28, 2016, 10:59:23 AM
~98,194,653 didn’t vote for the equally worst possible evils for POTUS. ~128,824,833 did. Evil in the US has net advantage of only ~30,630,180. (https://www.facebook.com/notes/alwin-roe/on-pyrrhic-victory/10154703316714158)


Title: Re: U.S.A a nation of evil
Post by: Sithara007 on December 28, 2016, 01:08:24 PM
~98,194,653 didn’t vote for the equally worst possible evils for POTUS. ~128,824,833 did. Evil in the US has net advantage of only ~30,630,180. (https://www.facebook.com/notes/alwin-roe/on-pyrrhic-victory/10154703316714158)

That is a flawed logic. How can you be so sure that the 98 million who abstained from voting didn't supported any of the presidential candidates? Perhaps they were supporters of Trump, who were too lazy to cast their ballots.  


Title: Re: U.S.A a nation of evil
Post by: BitcoinPicasso on December 28, 2016, 02:56:37 PM
So the US is only partially evil. Sounds about right. The world is also partially evil.

What is evil to one person is the only possible solution to another. Yet someone else may see it as a good thing. Depends on your point of view.


Title: Re: U.S.A a nation of evil
Post by: af_newbie on December 28, 2016, 03:15:42 PM
Start with the Psychos constantly trying to ruin the lives of others, and the scams that are the healthcare, banking, military, prison etc.  industrial complexes.

Are you retarded or just pretending to be?

US is a democracy, one of the most progressive ones at that.

Try to go and live under ISIS.

You have no idea what you are talking about.


Title: Re: U.S.A a nation of evil
Post by: Heutenamos on December 28, 2016, 06:25:32 PM
this Gibbar looks on drugs  ???


Title: Re: U.S.A a nation of evil
Post by: BADecker on December 28, 2016, 08:10:00 PM
All nations are nations of evil... except, maybe, when they are newly formed, and work for the good of the peole.

The closest you will come to a nation of good is the family... one man, one woman, and their kids.

8)


Title: Re: U.S.A a nation of evil
Post by: TheButterZone on December 29, 2016, 02:43:51 AM
~98,194,653 didn’t vote for the equally worst possible evils for POTUS. ~128,824,833 did. Evil in the US has net advantage of only ~30,630,180. (https://www.facebook.com/notes/alwin-roe/on-pyrrhic-victory/10154703316714158)

That is a flawed logic. How can you be so sure that the 98 million who abstained from voting didn't supported any of the presidential candidates? Perhaps they were supporters of Trump, who were too lazy to cast their ballots. 

Voting is violence. If you're not violent enough to even vote for someone, how can you expected to be even more violent to take up arms for someone/against another?


Title: Re: U.S.A a nation of evil
Post by: Sithara007 on December 29, 2016, 12:11:51 PM
Start with the Psychos constantly trying to ruin the lives of others, and the scams that are the healthcare, banking, military, prison etc.  industrial complexes.

Are you retarded or just pretending to be?

US is a democracy, one of the most progressive ones at that.

Try to go and live under ISIS.

You have no idea what you are talking about.

Too much importance is given to the population numbers in democracy. Those who have the bigger population will win the elections, and the rights of the minorities are not always maintained. This also encourages certain groups of people to increase their population, so that they will get a bigger slice of power in the future.


Title: Re: U.S.A a nation of evil
Post by: mixan on December 29, 2016, 12:44:47 PM
Nobody can denounce a whole nation as being evil only a segregated part of that nation's society can be labelled as such. For example the Nazis and ISIS.
They have done unimaginable atrocities to our societies as a whole in the past and present. So that in it's self is evil. To me anyways. :-[


Title: Re: U.S.A a nation of evil
Post by: moriskarlov on December 29, 2016, 03:28:00 PM
Something tells me that author are either Arabic or Russian.


Title: Re: U.S.A a nation of evil
Post by: coolcoinz on December 29, 2016, 03:54:24 PM
Something tells me that author are either Arabic or Russian.
Maybe they recently bombed his neighborhood in the MusrallahFasallah village and he lost his favourite goat :D

On topic. I'd say IS is the (although formally unrecognized) nation of evil. Who's with me?


Title: Re: U.S.A a nation of evil
Post by: Daniel91 on December 29, 2016, 04:04:27 PM
Nation, religion, human race.. can't be evil.
Individuals can be good or bad based on their character only, not based on their nationality, religion, sex etc.
So, we can talk about good or bad people in America, Russia, Saudi Arabia etc. but we can't talk about good or bad America, Russia, Saudi Arabia etc.
I'm sorry but you are wrong.
Do you really think that your nationality or religion can decide if you will be good or bad person?
I don't think so.

 


Title: Re: U.S.A a nation of evil
Post by: af_newbie on December 29, 2016, 04:13:16 PM
Nation, religion, human race.. can't be evil.
Individuals can be good or bad based on their character only, not based on their nationality, religion, sex etc.
So, we can talk about good or bad people in America, Russia, Saudi Arabia etc. but we can't talk about good or bad America, Russia, Saudi Arabia etc.
I'm sorry but you are wrong.
Do you really think that your nationality or religion can decide if you will be good or bad person?
I don't think so.

 

Ideologies (nationalism or religion) can make good people do horrible things.


Title: Re: U.S.A a nation of evil
Post by: Daniel91 on December 29, 2016, 04:19:20 PM
Nation, religion, human race.. can't be evil.
Individuals can be good or bad based on their character only, not based on their nationality, religion, sex etc.
So, we can talk about good or bad people in America, Russia, Saudi Arabia etc. but we can't talk about good or bad America, Russia, Saudi Arabia etc.
I'm sorry but you are wrong.
Do you really think that your nationality or religion can decide if you will be good or bad person?
I don't think so.

 

Ideologies (nationalism or religion) can make good people do horrible things.


No ideologies but evil people using ideologies for their own, evil purpose.


Title: Re: U.S.A a nation of evil
Post by: af_newbie on December 29, 2016, 04:28:43 PM
Nation, religion, human race.. can't be evil.
Individuals can be good or bad based on their character only, not based on their nationality, religion, sex etc.
So, we can talk about good or bad people in America, Russia, Saudi Arabia etc. but we can't talk about good or bad America, Russia, Saudi Arabia etc.
I'm sorry but you are wrong.
Do you really think that your nationality or religion can decide if you will be good or bad person?
I don't think so.

 

Ideologies (nationalism or religion) can make good people do horrible things.


No ideologies but evil people using ideologies for their own, evil purpose.

I guess you never heard of brainwashing...


Title: Re: U.S.A a nation of evil
Post by: Spendulus on December 29, 2016, 06:56:04 PM
Nation, religion, human race.. can't be evil.
Individuals can be good or bad based on their character only, not based on their nationality, religion, sex etc.
So, we can talk about good or bad people in America, Russia, Saudi Arabia etc. but we can't talk about good or bad America, Russia, Saudi Arabia etc.
I'm sorry but you are wrong.
Do you really think that your nationality or religion can decide if you will be good or bad person?
I don't think so.

 

Ideologies (nationalism or religion) can make good people do horrible things.


No ideologies but evil people using ideologies for their own, evil purpose.

I guess you never heard of brainwashing...
It never ceases to amaze me how people try to force their politically correct methods on others.  Lecturing, condescending, know it alls would tell you and me the "proper" way to think.  As if we can't think for ourselves, and we need instruction.

Well, I got news for all the perverted authoritarian controllers out there attempting to suppress wrongthink.

You are an ideology of evil.


Title: Re: U.S.A a nation of evil
Post by: BADecker on December 29, 2016, 09:27:18 PM
From https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1731986.msg17340127#msg17340127 :
...

We Americans need to stand bold and brave, and let the rest of the world kill itself off. Finally there will be peace. Then we can go in and RIGHTLY lay claim to the uninhabited lands worldwide.

Be brave, Americans! Your reward will be the world.

8)


Title: Re: U.S.A a nation of evil
Post by: Sithara007 on December 30, 2016, 06:16:15 AM
Nation, religion, human race.. can't be evil.
Individuals can be good or bad based on their character only, not based on their nationality, religion, sex etc.
So, we can talk about good or bad people in America, Russia, Saudi Arabia etc. but we can't talk about good or bad America, Russia, Saudi Arabia etc.
I'm sorry but you are wrong.
Do you really think that your nationality or religion can decide if you will be good or bad person?
I don't think so.

When the vast majority of the citizens of a particular country are supporting the invasion of defenseless small nations, and contributing to it in the form of taxes, you can call a nation as evil.


Title: Re: U.S.A a nation of evil
Post by: kongosplit on December 30, 2016, 06:18:21 AM
Yeah, and trump is actually satan hidden in this world

cmon guys be more realistic


Title: Re: U.S.A a nation of evil
Post by: BADecker on December 30, 2016, 01:10:32 PM
Nation, religion, human race.. can't be evil.
Individuals can be good or bad based on their character only, not based on their nationality, religion, sex etc.
So, we can talk about good or bad people in America, Russia, Saudi Arabia etc. but we can't talk about good or bad America, Russia, Saudi Arabia etc.
I'm sorry but you are wrong.
Do you really think that your nationality or religion can decide if you will be good or bad person?
I don't think so.

When the vast majority of the citizens of a particular country are supporting the invasion of defenseless small nations, and contributing to it in the form of taxes, you can call a nation as evil.

It isn't the citizens of the U.S.  They are as much slaves of their Government as anybody. Their ignorance and their Government are keeping them in bondage.

If you want to bring the U.S. down to the level that it should be at, learn, and then teach Americans how to get their freedom back, through the things that Karl Lentz is teaching. For starters, look here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Twn96nj0jfw&list=PLHrkQxgz0mg6kUBciD-HIvTXByqjcIZ-D&index=10 and here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qN3MI70PFBw. This stuff won't work for nations other than the U.S., except that it can be adapted to work in Canada, the U.K., Australia, and Belize... and India and Bangladesh, and a few other countries here and there.

You have buddies who will work with you on this, don't you? If you don't do it, you are as much the cause of U.S. Government evil as American citizens are.

8)


Title: Re: U.S.A a nation of evil
Post by: Sithara007 on January 02, 2017, 04:58:29 AM
Nation, religion, human race.. can't be evil.
Individuals can be good or bad based on their character only, not based on their nationality, religion, sex etc.
So, we can talk about good or bad people in America, Russia, Saudi Arabia etc. but we can't talk about good or bad America, Russia, Saudi Arabia etc.
I'm sorry but you are wrong.
Do you really think that your nationality or religion can decide if you will be good or bad person?
I don't think so.

When the vast majority of the citizens of a particular country are supporting the invasion of defenseless small nations, and contributing to it in the form of taxes, you can call a nation as evil.

It isn't the citizens of the U.S.  They are as much slaves of their Government as anybody. Their ignorance and their Government are keeping them in bondage.

It is not the government which is keeping them in bondage. On the other hand, it is the leftist media, which is brainwashing the people and making them slaves to the government. The level of media brainwashing in the US is unbelievable.


Title: Re: U.S.A a nation of evil
Post by: BADecker on January 02, 2017, 05:34:07 AM
U.S.A a nation of evil? The rest of the world, nations of greater evil.

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Title: Re: U.S.A a nation of evil
Post by: MANNYKURSH on January 02, 2017, 05:46:34 AM
i dont know why you say that? every days  million ppl travel to usa , most of them will stay illegal..



Title: Re: U.S.A a nation of evil
Post by: BADecker on January 02, 2017, 06:16:35 AM
Well, if they travel to America, they are from other nations. If they do it illegally, aren't they evil?

8)


Title: Re: U.S.A a nation of evil
Post by: Sithara007 on January 02, 2017, 06:50:30 AM
U.S.A a nation of evil? The rest of the world, nations of greater evil.

8)

Some of the other nations are evil as well. But no one is capable of giving competition to the United States in this regard. Right now, United States is the ultimate warmonger nation in the world.


Title: Re: U.S.A a nation of evil
Post by: BADecker on January 02, 2017, 06:59:11 AM
U.S.A a nation of evil? The rest of the world, nations of greater evil.

8)

Some of the other nations are evil as well. But no one is capable of giving competition to the United States in this regard. Right now, United States is the ultimate warmonger nation in the world.

Most of what the U.S. is doing in this regard is bringing freedom to people of other nations by putting down evil people in their governments. If a person in one of those other nations gets drafted into that nation's army, and dies fighting for the evil of his government, sure he is going to call the U.S. evil. If he would desert, and go over the the U.S., he would find the peace of the greatest nation in the world right now, America.

8)


Title: Re: U.S.A a nation of evil
Post by: tvbcof on January 02, 2017, 07:07:55 AM

U.S.A a nation of evil? The rest of the world, nations of greater evil.

8)

There might be an element of validity to this.  In my various travels (India, China, Japan, etc) I really do find that Americans seem more inclined to have some compassion for a stranger in need.

In China it seems that if a truck driver runs over a kid it is not unheard of for him to back up to finish the job because a dead kid costs him less out-of-pocket than a maimed one.  A relatively high status friend of mine from China said 'sure'.  Such a thing is well outside of any standards of normalcy and decency in the U.S. and would be considered flat out evil pretty much universally.

Where we do have a problem is that our leadership who we ostensibly voted in are moving to the extreme evil end of the spectrum and they are doing increasingly horrible things.  The destruction of Syria, for instance, involved some appalling demonstrations of pure evil.

We Americans are guilty of dis-interest and that has been allowing our leadership to do these awful things in our name.  Other nationals would probably be equally guilty in similar situations, but there is really no excuse for it.

Consider that we Americans are probably more highly targeted by bad people both domestic and foreign.  We are simply a more important and more useful nation so there is more reason to try to mold and manipulate us.  We peeps should, by rights, get a little bit of a break because of this.



Title: Re: U.S.A a nation of evil
Post by: SHIFT6666 on January 02, 2017, 08:02:47 AM
where are you from OP?  :o :o :o :o


Title: Re: U.S.A a nation of evil
Post by: moriskarlov on January 02, 2017, 08:34:57 AM
Quote
Individuals can be good or bad based on their character only
Yes, but when these individuals control the masses and the people like their leader, they voluntarily accept it, as in Russia, the nation have become the embodiment of evil.


Title: Re: U.S.A a nation of evil
Post by: jhony99 on January 02, 2017, 05:44:21 PM
i m sorry for your bad experiences man..but you cant call usa nation of evil...many ppl dream to live in usa


Title: Re: U.S.A a nation of evil
Post by: markj113 on January 02, 2017, 05:54:54 PM
I wonder what 3rd world shit hole the OP it's from.

Let us know so we can judge your country (I am not US based)

Looking at his post history Gibbar looks like a loser with gambling issues.


Title: Re: U.S.A a nation of evil
Post by: canah17 on January 10, 2017, 11:35:02 AM
Extremely disappointed in what has become or maybe always was a nation of evil.  Some of you are better than this I would like to think, though many of you are just monsters, that's for sure.

Yes.. you are right there my friend evil is always there but really United states of america isn't that evil i mean some people are nice but many is racist  >.< they are kind and powerful to some people they are a evil nation because of the terrorist attacks or the president :D hahaha.. its a nice calm and good nation but if its evil to you so you can live in canada its the best place and its a good nation i mean really good more than any country in the world U.S.A is slightly evil because they hide info from us that secret info i believe and they are hiding some kind of things that beyond our imagination and i think the main purpose is they will rule the  world someday and that's really evil but today we don't know yet >.< so U.S.A is slightly evil :D


Title: Re: U.S.A a nation of evil
Post by: Fireblazer on January 10, 2017, 11:43:16 AM
where are you from OP?  :o :o :o :o
You do not know where? This is a typical example of a Russian Troll. A lot of them here. USA is a great country but it is not thorough. In America there are pluses and minuses. In any case, until America is a global leader will be much willing to change that.


Title: Re: U.S.A a nation of evil
Post by: grermezter on January 10, 2017, 11:50:33 AM
I definitely dont think the USA is a nation of evil, Iran,North Korea and the rising star Turkey on the other hand are nations of evil. Who kill their own citizens, I am talking about state sponsored killings. Saudi Arabia is also part. Secretly killing all rivals and sponsors of terrorism.


Title: Re: U.S.A a nation of evil
Post by: SameHow on January 10, 2017, 12:03:43 PM
I definitely dont think the USA is a nation of evil, Iran,North Korea and the rising star Turkey on the other hand are nations of evil. Who kill their own citizens, I am talking about state sponsored killings. Saudi Arabia is also part. Secretly killing all rivals and sponsors of terrorism.
You forgot to remember Russia. This is also the evil Empire. Putin is now stirring things up in the world. Trump is going to be closed as a snail and deal with internal problems of the United States. Not going to work. If you do not fight on foreign soil, then the war will come in on your territory.


Title: Re: U.S.A a nation of evil
Post by: Nathan047 on January 10, 2017, 04:36:58 PM
Too much importance is given to the population numbers in democracy. Those who have the bigger population will win the elections, and the rights of the minorities are not always maintained. This also encourages certain groups of people to increase their population, so that they will get a bigger slice of power in the future.
This is why the US is a constitutional republic. The constitution along with the checks and balances are supposed to protect minorities from being oppressed by the larger body of voters.

Also, I think this thread is a troll.


Title: Re: U.S.A a nation of evil
Post by: Lancusters on January 10, 2017, 04:44:28 PM
Too much importance is given to the population numbers in democracy. Those who have the bigger population will win the elections, and the rights of the minorities are not always maintained. This also encourages certain groups of people to increase their population, so that they will get a bigger slice of power in the future.
This is why the US is a constitutional republic. The constitution along with the checks and balances are supposed to protect minorities from being oppressed by the larger body of voters.

Also, I think this thread is a troll.
I also think that in America, the founding fathers of the us created a lot of balances. People in other countries don't really understand the American political system and therefore draw incorrect conclusions.


Title: Re: U.S.A a nation of evil
Post by: BADecker on January 10, 2017, 06:17:20 PM
where are you from OP?  :o :o :o :o
You do not know where? This is a typical example of a Russian Troll. A lot of them here. USA is a great country but it is not thorough. In America there are pluses and minuses. In any case, until America is a global leader will be much willing to change that.

This is because America is free. For example. In America, you are free to figure out ways to not pay taxes. But, you are free to attempt to make others pay taxes.

In America you are free to live your life the way you want. The only restriction is that you can't take the freedom of others away from them.

The details are your own. If you don't list the details, nobody else will know about them. This is why USA Government leaders do what they want around the world. They are free.

8)


Title: Re: U.S.A a nation of evil
Post by: BADecker on January 10, 2017, 06:22:19 PM
BOMBSHELL: FBI Releases New Hillary Clinton Investigation Documents (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/210438-2017-01-10-bombshell-fbi-releases-new-hillary-clinton-investigation-documents.htm)


https://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Uploads/Graphics/693-0110093325-hillary-what-difference-does-it-make.jpg (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/210438-2017-01-10-bombshell-fbi-releases-new-hillary-clinton-investigation-documents.htm)


The international whistle-blower organization Wikileaks announced that the FBI has quietly released a fifth set of documents in its Hillary Clinton investigation, and wait until you see what they tried to sweep under the rug.

The new release by the FBI is a 299 page report on the investigation into Hillary Clinton's use of a private server. While unconfirmed, these documents becoming public are likely a result of another FOIA request by Judicial Watch.

So far what has been found is that emails from Sidney Blumenthal "contained classified information."

http://wearechange.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/WLFBI1.jpg

Also found is a passage that says, "Due to the extremely sensitive nature of this investigation and the damage its disclosure could cause the case will be designated as a prohibited investigation in accordance with the counterintelligence policy implementation guide." The document also states "the author request Assistant Director concurrence to maintain the identified case as prohibited."

http://wearechange.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/FBIWL2.jpg

Did you read that red box above? It seems the initial FBI investigation was never set up to be investigated – merely a false public pretend-investigation that ultimately failed because of the public demanded real accountability following Wikileaks, the DNCLeaks, DNCLEAKS2 and John Podesta's emails.


Read more at http://wearechange.org/bombshell-fbi-releases-new-hillary-clinton-investigation-documents/.


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Title: Re: U.S.A a nation of evil
Post by: 00hash01 on January 10, 2017, 06:32:30 PM
where are you from OP?  :o :o :o :o
You do not know where? This is a typical example of a Russian Troll. A lot of them here. USA is a great country but it is not thorough. In America there are pluses and minuses. In any case, until America is a global leader will be much willing to change that.

This is because America is free. For example. In America, you are free to figure out ways to not pay taxes. But, you are free to attempt to make others pay taxes.

In America you are free to live your life the way you want. The only restriction is that you can't take the freedom of others away from them.

The details are your own. If you don't list the details, nobody else will know about them. This is why USA Government leaders do what they want around the world. They are free.

8)
When you write that in America you can live your whole life and not to pay taxes you mean Trump? It seems to me that the old idiot had set an example to others that this is possible. I think that this will have serious consequences in the future.


Title: Re: U.S.A a nation of evil
Post by: BADecker on January 10, 2017, 06:44:34 PM
where are you from OP?  :o :o :o :o
You do not know where? This is a typical example of a Russian Troll. A lot of them here. USA is a great country but it is not thorough. In America there are pluses and minuses. In any case, until America is a global leader will be much willing to change that.

This is because America is free. For example. In America, you are free to figure out ways to not pay taxes. But, you are free to attempt to make others pay taxes.

In America you are free to live your life the way you want. The only restriction is that you can't take the freedom of others away from them.

The details are your own. If you don't list the details, nobody else will know about them. This is why USA Government leaders do what they want around the world. They are free.

8)
When you write that in America you can live your whole life and not to pay taxes you mean Trump? It seems to me that the old idiot had set an example to others that this is possible. I think that this will have serious consequences in the future.

No, I mean anybody.

You can get a special religious trust from http://www.theultimateinassetprotection.com/?ref=SWC, based on your family as a religious organization, and donate your income to the trust. The IRS doesn't mess with these trusts. The money that is donated goes for the family, since the family religious organization is the beneficiary. This has been done at many times and in many ways over the years throughout America. The website, above, is simply the best way that I have seen.

The problem with a trust or any artificial entity is, if you are challenged, you still need to fight it man to man in court. Because of this, you might want to learn how to fight and bypass the trust altogether.

There are two parts to the key about fighting the IRS or other taxing agency. Part 1 is knowing that Government never attacks you. It is always a man or woman who does. And often they get you to "convict" yourself. Part 2 is that any tax money is your property. Being your property, where does it belong to someone else? If you haven't signed any paperwork (like a tax form) stating that your money property belongs to anyone else, they don't have a right to it.

Google and Youtube search on "Karl Lentz common law."



http://www.myprivateaudio.com/Karl-Lentz.html = Angela Stark's Talkshoe.

http://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5duR4OvEHHxOSdEZhANETw = TrustInAllLaw snippets of Karl's audios.

http://www.broadmind.org/ = Karl's main page.

http://www.unkommonlaw.co.uk/ = Karl's United Kingdom page.

http://www.youtube.com/user/765736/videos?view=0&live_view=500&flow=grid&sort=da = Craig Lynch's snippets page.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOkAHRzuiOA&list=PLHrkQxgz0mg6kUBciD-HIvTXByqjcIZ-D = Ten great Youtube videos, might be the best introduction to Karl.

http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/talkCast.jsp?masterId=127469&cmd=tc = Karl's Talkshoe site.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iua56K4Mysk = Karl Lentz - The Brian Bonar Incident - YouTube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdHLHWS4gPE = Lentz-Sense - don't be a More~On - YouTube.


Other Info

http://voidjudgments.com/ = The Secret is most judgments are Void on their face and not merely voidable.

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Title: Re: U.S.A a nation of evil
Post by: olushakes on January 10, 2017, 06:50:58 PM
Extremely disappointed in what has become or maybe always was a nation of evil.  Some of you are better than this I would like to think, though many of you are just monsters, that's for sure.

I was even looking at the possibly of seeing some reasons for you to arrive at a that your position and maybe I might agree with you or even give some reasons why it might have been like at but to my utmost surprise I just can't help to say I am disappointed in the sense that I can't just understand what is going join here as what you wrote does not even pass any message across whatsoever.


Title: Re: U.S.A a nation of evil
Post by: jonnybravo0411 on January 10, 2017, 07:01:28 PM
Extremely disappointed in what has become or maybe always was a nation of evil.  Some of you are better than this I would like to think, though many of you are just monsters, that's for sure.

I was even looking at the possibly of seeing some reasons for you to arrive at a that your position and maybe I might agree with you or even give some reasons why it might have been like at but to my utmost surprise I just can't help to say I am disappointed in the sense that I can't just understand what is going join here as what you wrote does not even pass any message across whatsoever.
A lot of people in the world envy the inhabitants of the United States. I think that such judgment merely from envy. To prove that Americans are a nation of evil, no one can. America is fighting terrorism all over the world and so they don't like her.


Title: Re: U.S.A a nation of evil
Post by: AleSergio on January 11, 2017, 06:45:19 PM
It is more like a political thing in USA, which is wrong. Everyone knows that USA goverment wants dominance in the world, that`s why they are doing revolutions in other countries, they go with their army in peaceful countries, with words for peace. If some countries are getting stronger, as soon as possible USA goes there and destroy everything that they have built, to make them weaker. Still we cannot compare nation and goverment. Americans as a nation are different people from all over the world, that live in one country. USA goverment is *****


Title: Re: U.S.A a nation of evil
Post by: bsb22 on January 12, 2017, 12:56:33 AM
U.S. Government and businesses are among the most corrupt and biggest scammers in the world.

Where do you think we learned it from?

Name me a country that you think is a bunch of saints. Saudi Arabia? Russia? Germany? The UK? Japan? China? South Africa? Israel?

Go ahead and name for me some saint country and we'll have a discussion. I can tell you one thing, during the Bush regime I started looking at other countries to move to, and in the end I realized that it was best to keep my butt exactly where it was. There is no other country I would rather live in.


Title: Re: U.S.A a nation of evil
Post by: akosipepot on January 12, 2017, 05:00:35 AM
I don't see any studies that the nation will become evil hahaha.Maybe if you can prove that U.S.A is a nation of evil then just published a proof and support your claim.or maybe you just get disappointed that trump will be soon your president.

Btw.I don't believe in evil if cannot see this.


Title: Re: U.S.A a nation of evil
Post by: Sithara007 on January 12, 2017, 07:21:51 AM
America is fighting terrorism all over the world and so they don't like her.

The American agencies such as the CIA are creating terrorist groups and sponsoring terrorism around the world. Osama bin Laden was trained and equipped by the CIA (during the 1980s). Without the US, the world will be a much safer place.


Title: Re: U.S.A a nation of evil
Post by: bitcoinboy12 on January 12, 2017, 12:05:06 PM
America is fighting terrorism all over the world and so they don't like her.

The American agencies such as the CIA are creating terrorist groups and sponsoring terrorism around the world. Osama bin Laden was trained and equipped by the CIA (during the 1980s). Without the US, the world will be a much safer place.

Even without definite and concrete proof to support this statement - I have ever since thought of this and actually believe it really makes a lot of sense.


Title: Re: U.S.A a nation of evil
Post by: Actualiteit on January 12, 2017, 12:26:48 PM
The small secret group who controls the U.S.A is evil, wouldn't call the whole country evil just like that. A lot of awesome people there.


Title: Re: U.S.A a nation of evil
Post by: ooom on January 12, 2017, 12:51:42 PM
This is our civilization problem.

You can't call one group or person an evil it is highly more complicated than that.

There are a packages with problems which are connected like neurons in our brains. There never will be only one problem responsible for an action or altitude. There always will be more complex cause and effect relation than we are capable to think.

Problem is artificial scarcity and technological innovation suspension for society public livelihood.

Our civilization has to develop and implement a new kind economic model. As further our civilization evolves, todays economic model in abundant manufacturing power with established artificial scarcity is unsustainable. Suspension in more sustainable energy manufacture technology is unsustainable (THORIUM nuclear power other high tech). We will see more crisis and more desperate actions around the world.

Robotics, automation, etc. is advancing. We will produce more goods and services with artificial scarcity on outdated energy source and still people will be unable to consume as jobs decline.

Everyone who has the power in their hands will do what ever it is necessary to defend their wealth.

How can we as civilization society require a better world for our children from our leaders. When more than half of the civilization are still religious believers who practice. Who believe in manipulatory and imaginary tales.

Education and learning is the only long go for our society future in this civilization and cosmos.



Title: Re: U.S.A a nation of evil
Post by: Frank Alister on January 12, 2017, 08:52:56 PM
I don't think that USA is a nation of evil or that theirs citizens are monsters either. Unfortunately they become some very bad things there but you can't say that they are evil. I am not for or against them but many of my friends are American citizens are pretty good people.


Title: Re: U.S.A a nation of evil
Post by: HabBear on January 12, 2017, 11:43:54 PM
I don't know about "a nation of evil" that is extreme.

USA is a product of history. Its a war monger country because of the outcome of WW2 and the cold war. Someone had to step up and deal with the euro bullshit so they put the big daddy pants on and are doing a great job world policing... But with Trump coming in that may change and China and Russia may need to step up. Who knows what will happen with Trump running shit.



U.S. Government and businesses are among the most corrupt and biggest scammers in the world.


Is this your only issue with USA or do you have other issues that concern you?

If you give us more detail on what you see as so evil we can better respond with agreement or thoughts to discuss.


Title: Re: U.S.A a nation of evil
Post by: Sithara007 on January 13, 2017, 05:25:29 AM
America is fighting terrorism all over the world and so they don't like her.

The American agencies such as the CIA are creating terrorist groups and sponsoring terrorism around the world. Osama bin Laden was trained and equipped by the CIA (during the 1980s). Without the US, the world will be a much safer place.

Even without definite and concrete proof to support this statement - I have ever since thought of this and actually believe it really makes a lot of sense.

It doesn't need any additional proof, because the CIA and the American government has acknowledged that they gave funds and training to the Islamist terrorist group headed by Osama bin Laden.

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Under CIA's Operation Cyclone from 1979 to 1989, the United States and Saudi Arabia provided $40 billion worth of financial aid and weapons to almost 100,000 Mujahideen and "Afghan Arabs" from forty Muslim countries through Pakistan's ISI.


Title: Re: U.S.A a nation of evil
Post by: Docnaster on January 13, 2017, 02:29:29 PM
For most of us it is quite disappointing that the new president of USA is not all as we wish it would be, but let's not be too negative. Maybe for some reason this could be a good thing, a new start of the people of United States, we should always be optimistic and prevent worrying to much. Let's all just pray that things would still work out well.


Title: Re: U.S.A a nation of evil
Post by: hexitor on January 13, 2017, 06:43:17 PM
I do not agree with his(her,its), because for me the United States are a great nation in all the points seen economic, cultural, and social. Moreover this country has a real impact at the level of the world. It is the country of the liberty.


Title: Re: U.S.A a nation of evil
Post by: BADecker on January 15, 2017, 10:10:28 PM
Of course the USA is a nation of evil... just like all the rest of the nations. Why continue to focus on the negative? The USA is a nation of evil less than many other nation, and they are a nation of good way beyond most other nations.

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Title: Re: U.S.A a nation of evil
Post by: philggg on January 16, 2017, 09:36:38 AM
United state is not a nation of evil ,i no that there is a lot of crime committed in u s,but a lot of people especially immigrants do not go to school that is why they take to crime especially cyber crime,despite the presences of law enforcement agencies, education should be easily affordable for the common man to attend school


Title: Re: U.S.A a nation of evil
Post by: bitcoinboy12 on January 16, 2017, 04:09:11 PM
I do not agree with his(her,its), because for me the United States are a great nation in all the points seen economic, cultural, and social. Moreover this country has a real impact at the level of the world. It is the country of the liberty.

I'm sure the context of this post is evil as in Illuminati rumors evil. Antichrist evil. That literal kind of evil. There are a lot of false publications about this stuff. And they all pinpoint everything to the US.


Title: Re: U.S.A a nation of evil
Post by: Anarchist on January 16, 2017, 04:33:10 PM
USA is the cancer of this world, they create too much trouble in the name of peace.
In fact usa is the land of the dajjal


Title: Re: U.S.A a nation of evil
Post by: bryant.coleman on January 16, 2017, 04:54:41 PM
USA is the cancer of this world, they create too much trouble in the name of peace.

Have to agree with this. During the past 7 decades, the Americans have invaded at least 60 countries in almost all the continents (with the exception of Antarctica) and funded thousands of terrorist organizations. They have supported some of the most brutal dictators in the world, such as King Salman of Saudi Arabia. Without the US, the world will be a much better place to live. 


Title: Re: U.S.A a nation of evil
Post by: tvbcof on January 16, 2017, 05:15:12 PM

USA is the cancer of this world, they create too much trouble in the name of peace.

Have to agree with this. During the past 7 decades, the Americans have invaded at least 60 countries in almost all the continents (with the exception of Antarctica) and funded thousands of terrorist organizations. They have supported some of the most brutal dictators in the world, such as King Salman of Saudi Arabia. Without the US, the world will be a much better place to live. 

There is an argument that if not the U.S. as the global hegemon, it would be someone else who might be even worse.  Even at my most 'anti-American progressive' phase I was unable to counter or shake this contention fully.

I always have been of the opinion that the U.S. is doing very awful things all over the world.  We couch these activities as 'national security' which is absurd.  These things are done mainly at the behest of elitist interests, some U.S. based and some not.  I do not rule out the possibility that as awful as some of these actions are, they are still sometimes tempered with a certain level of 'decency' which alternative hegemons would not necessarily display.  IOW, 'it could be worse.'

The U.S. hating elements of the world can at least be happy that the most awful elements within our leadership have increasingly turned their attentions inward.  I believe that the citizens of the U.S. itself are increasingly recognized as the primary threat and primary enemy just as is the case in most countries of size and China in particular.  Hopefully the (I think unexpected) Trump election can and will produce the cover needed to shine the light on some of these activities, but the jury is still out in this.  If it comes to pass, hopefully it will contribute to a clean-up of some of our games overseas.



Title: Re: U.S.A a nation of evil
Post by: MIGI on January 16, 2017, 06:14:57 PM
We've got the biggest nukes and the largest women. You mad bro?


Title: Re: U.S.A a nation of evil
Post by: SvenBomvolen on January 16, 2017, 07:04:23 PM
   I think most of the Americans are not aware what their government is doing. In last 20 years cause of internet their awareness raised but before that they lived in dark, they didnt know what is happening outside their country. And even now with all this news spinning they dont know what is the real truth.
   What they did with Kosovo, and how they give entrance to Muslims in Europe is one of their biggest mistake. Now former US president Clinton have a statue in their downtown.
   


Title: Re: U.S.A a nation of evil
Post by: Daniel.Jackson on January 16, 2017, 07:25:17 PM
USA is not so bad compared to other nations. Plenty of wars were started by other nations too. The US is just in a position of dominance so it has to kick ass as much as possible. Even if that means being seen as a nation of evil.


Title: Re: U.S.A a nation of evil
Post by: Anarchist on January 16, 2017, 07:33:18 PM

USA is the cancer of this world, they create too much trouble in the name of peace.

Have to agree with this. During the past 7 decades, the Americans have invaded at least 60 countries in almost all the continents (with the exception of Antarctica) and funded thousands of terrorist organizations. They have supported some of the most brutal dictators in the world, such as King Salman of Saudi Arabia. Without the US, the world will be a much better place to live. 

There is an argument that if not the U.S. as the global hegemon, it would be someone else who might be even worse.  Even at my most 'anti-American progressive' phase I was unable to counter or shake this contention fully.

I always have been of the opinion that the U.S. is doing very awful things all over the world.  We couch these activities as 'national security' which is absurd.  These things are done mainly at the behest of elitist interests, some U.S. based and some not.  I do not rule out the possibility that as awful as some of these actions are, they are still sometimes tempered with a certain level of 'decency' which alternative hegemons would not necessarily display.  IOW, 'it could be worse.'

The U.S. hating elements of the world can at least be happy that the most awful elements within our leadership have increasingly turned their attentions inward.  I believe that the citizens of the U.S. itself are increasingly recognized as the primary threat and primary enemy just as is the case in most countries of size and China in particular.  Hopefully the (I think unexpected) Trump election can and will produce the cover needed to shine the light on some of these activities, but the jury is still out in this.  If it comes to pass, hopefully it will contribute to a clean-up of some of our games overseas.



You really think Trump will be able to do something ? I am going to tell you : Yes  he can, he can only make the country worse and nothing more
And yes of course i can be wrong, but the story showed us when usa had a good president, he didn't live very long  ::)


Title: Re: U.S.A a nation of evil
Post by: valta4065 on January 16, 2017, 08:30:30 PM

USA is the cancer of this world, they create too much trouble in the name of peace.

Have to agree with this. During the past 7 decades, the Americans have invaded at least 60 countries in almost all the continents (with the exception of Antarctica) and funded thousands of terrorist organizations. They have supported some of the most brutal dictators in the world, such as King Salman of Saudi Arabia. Without the US, the world will be a much better place to live. 

There is an argument that if not the U.S. as the global hegemon, it would be someone else who might be even worse.  Even at my most 'anti-American progressive' phase I was unable to counter or shake this contention fully.



Simple question: Who?

China? No they never have been conqueror. Even when they were the most powerful country in the world they never tried to expand their territories. It's just not in their culture to physically expand their country, rather the contrary in fact.
Russia? No, how could they? They have far enough intern problems and Russia, in a similar way to China, is not a country of expansion (exception of WW2). At most they would have tried to regain the USSR but not bigger.

Then who? Just who?
France? England? Germany? lol
No, USA did it and they have no excuse for it.


Title: Re: U.S.A a nation of evil
Post by: tvbcof on January 16, 2017, 08:47:04 PM
...

You really think Trump will be able to do something ? I am going to tell you : Yes  he can, he can only make the country worse and nothing more
And yes of course i can be wrong, but the story showed us when usa had a good president, he didn't live very long  ::)

I don't rule it out as a possibility.  Only time will tell, but I do believe that there are people in this world who have the disposition to do the right thing and the innate abilities to execute.  I can only hope that Trump is one of these.

I do also believe that people such as I've described are systematically discriminated out from the ruling classes.  Both at a figurehead level and otherwise (visible and shadow govt respectively.)  I just watched an interesting interview with some Dutch academic and was amazed at how his thesis aligned very closely to the hypothesis I've been working on vis-a-vis the 'kakistocracy.'

https://www.corbettreport.com/meet-the-kakistocracy-tjeerd-andringa-on-the-corbett-report/ (https://www.corbettreport.com/meet-the-kakistocracy-tjeerd-andringa-on-the-corbett-report/)

The thing which gives me the most hope about Trump are the people who are against him, and it doesn't seem to be only for show.  WRT security, I think that on the levels that count, Trump is not at all ignorant of certain types of threats and is probably not as reckless as it may seem.  He could be the type of person who has taken appropriate back-end steps to discourage certain types of attacks, and he certainly knows how to use the environment to obtain and maintain leverage.  And he has the Kennedy situation to learn from.  Might be enough.  Again, we'll only know when we know.



Title: Re: U.S.A a nation of evil
Post by: tvbcof on January 16, 2017, 10:13:22 PM

There is an argument that if not the U.S. as the global hegemon, it would be someone else who might be even worse.  Even at my most 'anti-American progressive' phase I was unable to counter or shake this contention fully.
...

Simple question: Who?

China? No they never have been conqueror. Even when they were the most powerful country in the world they never tried to expand their territories. It's just not in their culture to physically expand their country, rather the contrary in fact.
Russia? No, how could they? They have far enough intern problems and Russia, in a similar way to China, is not a country of expansion (exception of WW2). At most they would have tried to regain the USSR but not bigger.

Then who? Just who?
France? England? Germany? lol
No, USA did it and they have no excuse for it.

While it seems generally true that China has been more inward looking there are at least some tactical reasons for this.  Specifically, it has been looked upon as a target making a defensive posture the natural one.  And, of course, the standard internal conflicts have been a factor.  The borders of the nation have shifted outwards as well as inwards, and even today they are claiming a pretty absurd bite of the maritime areas nearer other nations.  There is probably little or nothing innate to 'Chinese' people which precludes either overt conquest or less overt methods of control, and nothing which would indicate that they are less capable than any other people of treating the people they conquered as basically sub-human.  Indeed, many nations on their border seem to have very little use for them.

Germany had, as I understand it, a pretty clear-cut plan for the Soviet people when conquered them (or so it is written in the victor's history books.)  It eclipses anything (currently known) about what the U.S. did.  Mao and Stalin racked up some pretty impressive kill scores internally and there is little reason to think that they would have been at least as brutal in conquered territories if they had the opportunity.  King Leopold II got quite a decent score in Africa.

I suspect that the U.S. is actually quite on the 'good' side when it comes to allowing ethnocentrism to justify actions.  This mostly a fallout from our 'nation of immigrants' history.  It's probably more of a struggle to get the American peeps to hate on others to the point of genocide on the basis of racial or ethnic differences, though various PR efforts have given it the old college try.  Oddly, mostly against people who are more of a threat to Israel than to the U.S..

I would not be surprised to find out eventually that certain 'American' efforts have achieved the biggest ethnocentric genocides yet under the guise of world population control, but these would be more a hobby of a handful of wealthy globalists (some 'American', and some not) more than an up-front declared matter of national policy such as war or territorial management.  We peeps might be guilty of being ignorant and not putting an end to such operations but that's different than being outright 'evil'.



Title: Re: U.S.A a nation of evil
Post by: Lutheriusourexi on January 16, 2017, 11:25:14 PM
USA is police in the world
all country must follow want USA
if not follow, can get punishment, economic embargo and more


Title: Re: U.S.A a nation of evil
Post by: valta4065 on January 16, 2017, 11:34:07 PM

There is an argument that if not the U.S. as the global hegemon, it would be someone else who might be even worse.  Even at my most 'anti-American progressive' phase I was unable to counter or shake this contention fully.
...

Simple question: Who?

China? No they never have been conqueror. Even when they were the most powerful country in the world they never tried to expand their territories. It's just not in their culture to physically expand their country, rather the contrary in fact.
Russia? No, how could they? They have far enough intern problems and Russia, in a similar way to China, is not a country of expansion (exception of WW2). At most they would have tried to regain the USSR but not bigger.

Then who? Just who?
France? England? Germany? lol
No, USA did it and they have no excuse for it.

While it seems generally true that China has been more inward looking there are at least some tactical reasons for this.  Specifically, it has been looked upon as a target making a defensive posture the natural one.  And, of course, the standard internal conflicts have been a factor.  The borders of the nation have shifted outwards as well as inwards, and even today they are claiming a pretty absurd bite of the maritime areas nearer other nations.  There is probably little or nothing innate to 'Chinese' people which precludes either overt conquest or less overt methods of control, and nothing which would indicate that they are less capable than any other people of treating the people they conquered as basically sub-human.  Indeed, many nations on their border seem to have very little use for them.

Well it seems that from a historical point of view it is not the case.
During the Ming era they could have easily invaded whole Asia. Maybe even Eastern Europe. They never did.
Why if not because they have a natural trend for defensive posture?
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Germany had, as I understand it, a pretty clear-cut plan for the Soviet people when conquered them (or so it is written in the victor's history books.)  It eclipses anything (currently known) about what the U.S. did.  Mao and Stalin racked up some pretty impressive kill scores internally and there is little reason to think that they would have been at least as brutal in conquered territories if they had the opportunity.  King Leopold II got quite a decent score in Africa.

I suspect that the U.S. is actually quite on the 'good' side when it comes to allowing ethnocentrism to justify actions.  This mostly a fallout from our 'nation of immigrants' history.  It's probably more of a struggle to get the American peeps to hate on others to the point of genocide on the basis of racial or ethnic differences, though various PR efforts have given it the old college try.  Oddly, mostly against people who are more of a threat to Israel than to the U.S..

I would not be surprised to find out eventually that certain 'American' efforts have achieved the biggest ethnocentric genocides yet under the guise of world population control, but these would be more a hobby of a handful of wealthy globalists (some 'American', and some not) more than an up-front declared matter of national policy such as war or territorial management.  We peeps might be guilty of being ignorant and not putting an end to such operations but that's different than being outright 'evil'.



Maybe. But you know what? I think it makes it only worse.
Problem with USA is that their invasion is global but... ingenious.
They made war to countries unable to resist yes, but they also invaded developped countries.
They invaded them with their philosophy, their economy, their culture...
And that is something that nobody ever done, transforming entire country not by arms but by cunning activities...

Now everyone can only think as an American. Anyone thinking outside this box is considered a communist.
And this box is destroying our world, in a more cunning and harsh way than Hitler, Mao or Staline.


Title: Re: U.S.A a nation of evil
Post by: loreykyutt05 on January 16, 2017, 11:56:30 PM
We cannot say that U.S.A can be a nation of evil. Also, we cannot say the CIA and the American government has acknowledged that they gave funds and training to the Islamist terrorist group, because, we do not know what is the main reason why did the American government and CIA do this thing. As we can see, I think it was only between the terrorists and the CIA, I think there is a plan for the two of us who involve in this project


Title: Re: U.S.A a nation of evil
Post by: mainpmf on January 17, 2017, 12:04:00 AM
USA is not so bad compared to other nations. Plenty of wars were started by other nations too. The US is just in a position of dominance so it has to kick ass as much as possible. Even if that means being seen as a nation of evil.

There is still a slight difference.
USA existed for 250 years more or less.
It has been at peace for... 10 years? 20 maybe?

So not, USA isn't just "as the others nations"...


Title: Re: U.S.A a nation of evil
Post by: tvbcof on January 17, 2017, 04:27:13 AM

Well it seems that from a historical point of view it is not the case.
During the Ming era they could have easily invaded whole Asia. Maybe even Eastern Europe. They never did.
Why if not because they have a natural trend for defensive posture?

China, in it's various geographical permutations, has a very long history with a lot of different dynasties.  Maybe the Ming and Tang were unusually benevolent (or not), but others probably not so much.  Even if it were true that all dynasties were exclusively inward looking, that does not necessarily indicate that it would always be so.

I expect that the leadership of China will do what they have to do to retain power in the trying times ahead that that nation faces.  Or try to.  If 'globalism' collapses (which I dearly hope to be the case for all of our sake) then they lose the bouy which they've grown dependent upon.  China has the boots to put on the ground if they choose that route...and if their leadership stays in power long enough to give that a go..  I do not expect the results of either the weening or the efforts to avoid it to be pretty.

Maybe. But you know what? I think it makes it only worse.
Problem with USA is that their invasion is global but... ingenious.
They made war to countries unable to resist yes, but they also invaded developped countries.
They invaded them with their philosophy, their economy, their culture...
And that is something that nobody ever done, transforming entire country not by arms but by cunning activities...

Now everyone can only think as an American. Anyone thinking outside this box is considered a communist.
And this box is destroying our world, in a more cunning and harsh way than Hitler, Mao or Staline.

The U.S. has changed significantly over our relatively short existence.  We peeps have traditionally been quite isolationist much to the chagrin of those who wished to enlist our muscle to help in their own struggles (esp, the Brits in the 1900's.)  It wasn't really until WW-II when we came our of the thing in fantastic shape that the street-level attitude about fucking around with others militarily became positive (although yellow journalism has always been able to rally the peeps to a cause.)  Even after that we finally put an end to the military/industrial complex scam in Vietnam via popular resistance.

As for cunning and intrigue, a good bit of that seems attributable to the machinations by and for the privately owned central bank and financial cartels which we were not vexed with until Wilson.  To a degree I would say that we American peeps are victims in the same way that others around the world are, but admittedly we end up getting more of the mine and less of the shaft here in the homeland.  At least those of us who not resting in Arlington, but combat casualties are a decreasing problem with technology advances.

I don't really want to go to bat for the fucked up things that the U.S. has done and continues to do, but I do think that it is deceptively easy to oversimplify things and pin the blame less precisely than is necessary for a good understanding.  And such an understanding is key to making forward progress in some of these areas.

As for people eating up the idiotic aspects of 'American culture', that's their own damn fault.  I'm shocked and chagrined to see it whenever I travel.  My opinion is that most of people who fancy themselves 'thinking outside of the box' probably are mostly just absorbing fairly standard-fair collectivist output from people who themselves are, ironically enough, anything but communists.  They mostly just find it the pinko construct tunable to a desirable resonance, and fancy to drones who lap it up to be controllable.  This group are mostly interested in the 'collect' part of 'collectivism' as a means to their own ends.  IOW, they know that when the time is right it will be they who end up with 'the collection.'



Title: Re: U.S.A a nation of evil
Post by: marilyngroom on January 17, 2017, 06:56:15 AM
It's a nation of people. Some are good, some are bad.


Title: Re: U.S.A a nation of evil
Post by: bitcoinboy12 on January 17, 2017, 09:31:11 AM
It's a nation of people. Some are good, some are bad.

But I guess what the OP is trying to point out is it's actually evil. Antichrist context of evil.


Title: Re: U.S.A a nation of evil
Post by: Sithara007 on January 17, 2017, 10:48:28 AM
It's a nation of people. Some are good, some are bad.

The OP was probably referring to the American government, rather than the people. If he was actually referring to the people, then the title would have been "U.S.A a nation of evil people".


Title: Re: U.S.A a nation of evil
Post by: loreykyutt05 on January 17, 2017, 10:57:25 AM
USA is not so bad compared to other nations. Plenty of wars were started by other nations too. The US is just in a position of dominance so it has to kick ass as much as possible. Even if that means being seen as a nation of evil.

There is still a slight difference.
USA existed for 250 years more or less.
It has been at peace for... 10 years? 20 maybe?

So not, USA isn't just "as the others nations"...

We cannot compare last year, we cannot say that the country USA is in peace, there a lot of bombing, terrorism attacks that we are not alarm or updated. Sometimes, this kind of black propaganda we are not seeing in USA, we cannot say that USA is in peace. Because of the dominance of this country, we cannot say that there is peace in USA, USA is one of the most powerful country in the world


Title: Re: U.S.A a nation of evil
Post by: BADecker on January 17, 2017, 11:06:23 AM
It's a nation of people. Some are good, some are bad.

The OP was probably referring to the American government, rather than the people. If he was actually referring to the people, then the title would have been "U.S.A a nation of evil people".

Right. And besides, only government people are in the U.S.A. The rest of the people are living within some territorial land borders.

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Title: Re: U.S.A a nation of evil
Post by: dylanc on January 17, 2017, 11:33:42 PM
I think it depends on your definition of evil. I can think of many worse countries.


Title: Re: U.S.A a nation of evil
Post by: Sithara007 on January 18, 2017, 09:03:17 AM
I think it depends on your definition of evil. I can think of many worse countries.

Right. For example there are countries such as North Korea and Sudan. But what makes the US different is the fact that they are frequently invading other third world nations and provoking violence and chaos.


Title: Re: U.S.A a nation of evil
Post by: dirokkl on January 18, 2017, 10:37:47 AM
It's a nation of people. Some are good, some are bad.

The OP was probably referring to the American government, rather than the people. If he was actually referring to the people, then the title would have been "U.S.A a nation of evil people".
I do not believe that the American government is very evil. Just there are so many countries that are jealous of American power. It seems to me that this is the main reason for the constant criticism of America. I know a lot of countries that are even worse.


Title: Re: U.S.A a nation of evil
Post by: noel2123 on January 18, 2017, 12:21:49 PM
I think it depends on your definition of evil. I can think of many worse countries.


As we can see, we cannot see what is the true image of United States, we see a lot of terrorism in United States. We all know that United States is one of the most powerful country on Earth, they trained a lot of army, policeman, and other things to make the United States more powerful. Making weapons, equipment and nuclear weapon can make the United States more powerful, and we cannot see how powerful United States. I think United States must not be a nation of evil.


Title: Re: U.S.A a nation of evil
Post by: PetroffVany on January 18, 2017, 01:18:10 PM
I think it depends on your definition of evil. I can think of many worse countries.


As we can see, we cannot see what is the true image of United States, we see a lot of terrorism in United States. We all know that United States is one of the most powerful country on Earth, they trained a lot of army, policeman, and other things to make the United States more powerful. Making weapons, equipment and nuclear weapon can make the United States more powerful, and we cannot see how powerful United States. I think United States must not be a nation of evil.
I do not believe that the US is very evil government. The fact that Americans defend their interests around the world is a sign of strength and intelligence. After the arrival of Trump, the situation may change, but I don't want to.


Title: Re: U.S.A a nation of evil
Post by: bitcoinboy12 on January 18, 2017, 03:16:58 PM
I think it depends on your definition of evil. I can think of many worse countries.


As we can see, we cannot see what is the true image of United States, we see a lot of terrorism in United States. We all know that United States is one of the most powerful country on Earth, they trained a lot of army, policeman, and other things to make the United States more powerful. Making weapons, equipment and nuclear weapon can make the United States more powerful, and we cannot see how powerful United States. I think United States must not be a nation of evil.
I do not believe that the US is very evil government. The fact that Americans defend their interests around the world is a sign of strength and intelligence. After the arrival of Trump, the situation may change, but I don't want to.
Well they say that evil can really take on many ideal forms.


Title: Re: U.S.A a nation of evil
Post by: Chikito on January 18, 2017, 03:57:26 PM
I do not know, with what you have to say, this thread did not give clear information, and spamming provide information trash


Title: Re: U.S.A a nation of evil
Post by: beafheart on January 18, 2017, 07:31:54 PM
The United States is not a nation of evil. The whole world is jealous of America and so, at every opportunity, trying to accuse US of all sins. Believe me that if any of the critics to propose a U.S. passport they will agree and will say that in the US the best nation.


Title: Re: U.S.A a nation of evil
Post by: audaciousbeing on January 18, 2017, 07:41:06 PM
There is no way one can be good in all ramifications even the Pope cannot be seen by all eyes as an upright person not to talk of a whole country like USA in which even for sneezing alone, a lot of interpretations have been given that the country does not even have in mind. Even though I am not going to absolve US from some atrocities as we have read ( maybe it could be mean conspiracy theories} at the same time they cannot be absolved as the last hope democracy and have been the home of various fighters of liberty where their safety cannot be guaranteed back home.

This their mission of self determination of their leaders by citizens of developing country alone for me to see them as not a nation of evil.


Title: Re: U.S.A a nation of evil
Post by: sergeyzol on January 18, 2017, 08:17:29 PM
There is no way one can be good in all ramifications even the Pope cannot be seen by all eyes as an upright person not to talk of a whole country like USA in which even for sneezing alone, a lot of interpretations have been given that the country does not even have in mind. Even though I am not going to absolve US from some atrocities as we have read ( maybe it could be mean conspiracy theories} at the same time they cannot be absolved as the last hope democracy and have been the home of various fighters of liberty where their safety cannot be guaranteed back home.

This their mission of self determination of their leaders by citizens of developing country alone for me to see them as not a nation of evil.
Unfortunately it seems to me that the world is getting tougher. Democracy in recent years more and more proves to be ineffective. Look at the consequences of democracy. Breaexit Trump the migrant crisis.


Title: Re: U.S.A a nation of evil
Post by: Sithara007 on January 19, 2017, 05:47:37 PM
The United States is not a nation of evil. The whole world is jealous of America and so, at every opportunity, trying to accuse US of all sins. Believe me that if any of the critics to propose a U.S. passport they will agree and will say that in the US the best nation.

Why should anyone be jealous of the United States? It is not the richest nation in the world. That distinction goes to countries such as Luxembourg, Qatar, and Switzerland. Nor is it the most affordable country in the world.


Title: Re: U.S.A a nation of evil
Post by: igorokavg13 on January 19, 2017, 05:51:58 PM
The United States is not a nation of evil. The whole world is jealous of America and so, at every opportunity, trying to accuse US of all sins. Believe me that if any of the critics to propose a U.S. passport they will agree and will say that in the US the best nation.

Why should anyone be jealous of the United States? It is not the richest nation in the world. That distinction goes to countries such as Luxembourg, Qatar, and Switzerland. Nor is it the most affordable country in the world.
Say you are Russian? Show me one person on the street in Russia who would be refused immigration to America. You will not find these. all hate Americans and call them "Pindos". It's not like envy?


Title: Re: U.S.A a nation of evil
Post by: jackshephard on January 19, 2017, 06:07:20 PM
Extremely disappointed in what has become or maybe always was a nation of evil.  Some of you are better than this I would like to think, though many of you are just monsters, that's for sure.

it's a free WORLD.. the fact that donald trump won is because his ideas are interesting to US citizens majority..

btw: making it a closed country and refusing immigrants, not getting involved with the world, and encouraging local industries and restricting imports aren't that EVIL? he didn't say he is going to burn everyone or the like...

I'm not a fan of Donald trump at all but some things should be said..


Title: Re: U.S.A a nation of evil
Post by: v1ryspro on January 19, 2017, 06:19:52 PM
Extremely disappointed in what has become or maybe always was a nation of evil.  Some of you are better than this I would like to think, though many of you are just monsters, that's for sure.

it's a free WORLD.. the fact that donald trump won is because his ideas are interesting to US citizens majority..

btw: making it a closed country and refusing immigrants, not getting involved with the world, and encouraging local industries and restricting imports aren't that EVIL? he didn't say he is going to burn everyone or the like...

I'm not a fan of Donald trump at all but some things should be said..
Trump can and says some right words, but they will not be able to come true. I can also say that select me and every American will earn $ 12 million per year. But this is a lie. So does Trump. You can not vote for such people.


Title: Re: U.S.A a nation of evil
Post by: Sithara007 on January 20, 2017, 11:56:53 AM
The United States is not a nation of evil. The whole world is jealous of America and so, at every opportunity, trying to accuse US of all sins. Believe me that if any of the critics to propose a U.S. passport they will agree and will say that in the US the best nation.

Why should anyone be jealous of the United States? It is not the richest nation in the world. That distinction goes to countries such as Luxembourg, Qatar, and Switzerland. Nor is it the most affordable country in the world.
Say you are Russian? Show me one person on the street in Russia who would be refused immigration to America. You will not find these. all hate Americans and call them "Pindos". It's not like envy?

I am not Russian, and I don't have any relation with that country. And for your kind information, I am happy where I am and I don't want to immigrate to the United States. I can understand your thinking though, since you are an Ukrainian. Not a single Ukrainian want to live in that country. Some want to immigrate to Russia. The rest want to settle in the United States.


Title: Re: U.S.A a nation of evil
Post by: Kvazimoda on January 20, 2017, 03:04:22 PM
The United States is not a nation of evil. The whole world is jealous of America and so, at every opportunity, trying to accuse US of all sins. Believe me that if any of the critics to propose a U.S. passport they will agree and will say that in the US the best nation.

Why should anyone be jealous of the United States? It is not the richest nation in the world. That distinction goes to countries such as Luxembourg, Qatar, and Switzerland. Nor is it the most affordable country in the world.
Say you are Russian? Show me one person on the street in Russia who would be refused immigration to America. You will not find these. all hate Americans and call them "Pindos". It's not like envy?

I am not Russian, and I don't have any relation with that country. And for your kind information, I am happy where I am and I don't want to immigrate to the United States. I can understand your thinking though, since you are an Ukrainian. Not a single Ukrainian want to live in that country. Some want to immigrate to Russia. The rest want to settle in the United States.
I've been watching your posts. You Russian. I don't know why you hide it. If you are afraid of being judged believe me even in Ukraine belong to the Russian well. Don't like Putin, his policies and the Russian trolls.


Title: Re: U.S.A a nation of evil
Post by: BADecker on January 20, 2017, 04:28:26 PM
The evil of the USA lies mostly in politics, military growth, banking, and those who believe science theory to be fact.

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Title: Re: U.S.A a nation of evil
Post by: Karloff on January 20, 2017, 06:56:51 PM
The evil of the USA lies mostly in politics, military growth, banking, and those who believe science theory to be fact.

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Evil America is that it is able to impose on other countries their conditions. It seems to me that it is not evil. Is the power and ability to convince. All the cries about the evil America, there is only human to envy.