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Title: All politics is bullshit, just a sideshow or distraction
Post by: Gibbar on December 27, 2016, 01:36:53 AM
Stupid and.or psychopaths running the system it is bad to see this happening and none of the political bullshit being discussed matters as it is just a sideshow. They do everything they can to distract us from reality.


Title: Re: All politics is bullshit, just a sideshow or distraction
Post by: devthedev on December 27, 2016, 03:21:17 AM
Can you elaborate? As a Political Science major and someone who will run for political office one day, I believe politics is vitally important to the future of the country. Not all -- not even a majority for that matter -- of politicians are corrupt.


Title: Re: All politics is bullshit, just a sideshow or distraction
Post by: merchantofzeny on December 27, 2016, 06:32:19 AM
Can you elaborate? As a Political Science major and someone who will run for political office one day, I believe politics is vitally important to the future of the country. Not all -- not even a majority for that matter -- of politicians are corrupt.

Maybe he is just disillusioned by the current system. Living in a country run primarily by politicians from oligarchic clans, I definitely share the same sentiment.



Title: Re: All politics is bullshit, just a sideshow or distraction
Post by: Daniel91 on December 27, 2016, 03:21:10 PM
Can you elaborate? As a Political Science major and someone who will run for political office one day, I believe politics is vitally important to the future of the country. Not all -- not even a majority for that matter -- of politicians are corrupt.

Good luck with such decision :)
It's true that not all politicians are bad or corrupted, but public feel this way, it's fact.
Can we change public opinion?
I don't think so.
You see, even if media find one bad guy among 1 000 politicians, it will be enough to create image that all politicians are corrupt.
Right question is who is ''decision maker'' today?
Big companies, media or politicians?
Should we really blame politicians for everything?



Title: Re: All politics is bullshit, just a sideshow or distraction
Post by: BADecker on December 27, 2016, 04:52:44 PM
The only reason politics works is, people don't think about why situations around them happen as they do. We all know that we often don't think of all the ideas. We like to listen to others tell us their views. Politicians are snakes that have figure out the wording to use to play on our emotions, so that we believe what they say, even when we don't.

Most of us simply don't think deeply enough to know how to counter a politician's words that we are against. Often we simply end up believing him because we can't find our own way to counter him.

8)


Title: Re: All politics is bullshit, just a sideshow or distraction
Post by: Tyrantt on December 28, 2016, 02:25:58 AM
Stupid and.or psychopaths running the system it is bad to see this happening and none of the political bullshit being discussed matters as it is just a sideshow. They do everything they can to distract us from reality.

And you think you could do better? Why aren't you running for the office and making a world a better place? It's easy to talk siht like that and not do anything yourself.


Title: Re: All politics is bullshit, just a sideshow or distraction
Post by: devthedev on December 28, 2016, 02:31:24 AM
Stupid and.or psychopaths running the system it is bad to see this happening and none of the political bullshit being discussed matters as it is just a sideshow. They do everything they can to distract us from reality.

And you think you could do better? Why aren't you running for the office and making a world a better place? It's easy to talk siht like that and not do anything yourself.

This is exactly why I am running, to be the resistance. The United States and the world is not in the best place right now and it could get worse in the future. Be the change you want to see in the world!


Title: Re: All politics is bullshit, just a sideshow or distraction
Post by: protokol on December 28, 2016, 03:01:51 AM
Stupid and.or psychopaths running the system it is bad to see this happening and none of the political bullshit being discussed matters as it is just a sideshow. They do everything they can to distract us from reality.

To quote Douglas Adams:

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The major problem—one of the major problems, for there are several—one of the many major problems with governing people is that of whom you get to do it; or rather of who manages to get people to let them do it to them.
To summarize: it is a well-known fact that those people who must want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it.
To summarize the summary: anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job.


Title: Re: All politics is bullshit, just a sideshow or distraction
Post by: Sponsoredby15 on January 24, 2017, 03:18:14 PM
I do feel that the people who we trust most for our country are the real hypocrites. We really don't know what do they do, the most powerful people are the abusive ones, they seem to careless and irresponsible. Do they really care about the people who they serve? I just hate politicians who doesn't have any compassion.


Title: Re: All politics is bullshit, just a sideshow or distraction
Post by: SvenBomvolen on January 25, 2017, 08:53:08 PM
   That is exactly what they doing, districting us from reality while rich families are getting more richer every year. Its not just about money, we are slaves and they are using laws and politicians to keep us where we are now.
   There is no good politician!!! All of them are corrupted! While they get high salaries, fees, everything paid people are living on the edge. And what can politician do? Almost nothing, they cant heal people, they cant make food and good houses. They are just a tool in the hands of the rich people. If they can they would make better world long time ago....


Title: Re: All politics is bullshit, just a sideshow or distraction
Post by: HabBear on January 26, 2017, 05:13:11 AM
Can you elaborate? As a Political Science major and someone who will run for political office one day, I believe politics is vitally important to the future of the country. Not all -- not even a majority for that matter -- of politicians are corrupt.

Government is "vitally important". Politics keeps government from operating efficiently, especially in a two-party system. In a two-party system each party only survives (i.e., gains more members and votes) by convincing the People that the other side is wrong. This driver of their survival leads to both parties forcing the divide among the population.

Additionally, career politicians must stay in office to continue their career. Thus they become more and more incentivized to say what people want them to hear, vote for measures based on special interests that fund their campaigns, and trade votes regardless of what's best for their community and electorate.

It's a fucked up system. Politicians are the lowest form of career choice. Even President Obama, who probably resembled the greatest ethics of any modern-day politician had to succumb to the quid-pro-quo nature of politics. He gave in to the Republicans requiring his Affordable Care Act not be a single payer model, and instead by administered through insurance companies, which in-turn led to ski-rocketing premiums this year.

I agree that not all politicians are corrupt, but I beleive that's only because they haven't reached a high-enough level of power for corruption to benefit them. Also, trading votes or buying into special interests (rather than what best for the majority) isn't corrupt...it just perverts, stifles a good government from operating in the best interests of the people.

I'd love to get your thoughts on all this.


Title: Re: All politics is bullshit, just a sideshow or distraction
Post by: bra4our on January 26, 2017, 09:13:59 AM
I can boldly say just a small number of people enter into politics with the aim of helping their country or making their nations great just like Trumps theme. But most people especially in Africa enter into Politics with the aim of enriching themselves, They will strip the country bare and loot any available resources, thats their mindset when they enter into politics. No wonder Africa is poor even though they have majority of Natural Resources. The Leaders of let the whole continent down.


Title: Re: All politics is bullshit, just a sideshow or distraction
Post by: novemberwoah on January 26, 2017, 12:23:42 PM
I do feel that the people who we trust most for our country are the real hypocrites. We really don't know what do they do, the most powerful people are the abusive ones, they seem to careless and irresponsible. Do they really care about the people who they serve? I just hate politicians who doesn't have any compassion.
Yes, in my country many politicians are only concerned with themselves and many citizens are harmed, I think almost all of the country like that. Very few politicians who actually run the political system in correctly. They only given the promise without certainty, and it's all nonsense. Actually, if the political system do and run with the correct political behavior, political system will be able to walk properly in accordance rights and obligations. Indeed, only a few politicians who actually run their rights and obligations properly and correctly. Maybe can only hope the political system run properly according to the rules.


Title: Re: All politics is bullshit, just a sideshow or distraction
Post by: audaciousbeing on January 26, 2017, 01:08:22 PM
Stupid and.or psychopaths running the system it is bad to see this happening and none of the political bullshit being discussed matters as it is just a sideshow. They do everything they can to distract us from reality.

And that is  exactly why they are voted into office in countries that practiced democracy and where votes actually count. Most times, politicians will never tell the citizens the truth but only what they want to hear and thats it because the reality which is the truth that you are clamoring for here hurts and most times its either people dont want to hear or it will do more harm than good in saying it.

So, even you, you are not sure of not doing the same thing because when you get to that position you will understand that its totally a different ball game and nothing else.


Title: Re: All politics is bullshit, just a sideshow or distraction
Post by: RealBitcoin on January 26, 2017, 01:43:57 PM
Stupid and.or psychopaths running the system it is bad to see this happening and none of the political bullshit being discussed matters as it is just a sideshow. They do everything they can to distract us from reality.

But it's the stupid idiots who want to dominate you that is the problem. The politician is just the man that is hired to do the job.


So if you have 50% of the population socialists, that want to steal money from you. Then the politician only taxes you on behalf of those 50% of people.


The thief is the average guy on the street, or your neighbor, or your friend (who might live on welfare). Funny isnt it, when you think that the thief is on the top, but no, it's actually right next to you.



So yes, if you want anything to change, it's not the politician you need to convince, but the idiots who have idiotic policies. It's those who receive the taxes.


Title: Re: All politics is bullshit, just a sideshow or distraction
Post by: bra4our on January 26, 2017, 05:53:49 PM
Stupid and.or psychopaths running the system it is bad to see this happening and none of the political bullshit being discussed matters as it is just a sideshow. They do everything they can to distract us from reality.


I rather think its the paid media thats rather bombarding us with unnecessary things to keep us distracted from what's really going in the society. These news agencies are all afilliated with a certain political party and they spread the propaganda that their parties want. I think its high time people start to ask questions about the state of the nation.


Title: Re: All politics is bullshit, just a sideshow or distraction
Post by: Malsetid on January 26, 2017, 05:58:02 PM
Stupid and.or psychopaths running the system it is bad to see this happening and none of the political bullshit being discussed matters as it is just a sideshow. They do everything they can to distract us from reality.

you're kind of correct there dude. I think we focus too much on these things and we really cant put attention to a lot of things that matter more. hunger, climate change, people getting sick. it's absurd that instead of putting more resources to resolve these issues, we give more importance to politics and bickering among ourselves. it really funny if you think about it and it doesn't make any sense


Title: Re: All politics is bullshit, just a sideshow or distraction
Post by: darkangel11 on January 28, 2017, 04:15:55 AM
Stupid and.or psychopaths running the system it is bad to see this happening and none of the political bullshit being discussed matters as it is just a sideshow. They do everything they can to distract us from reality.

And you think you could do better? Why aren't you running for the office and making a world a better place? It's easy to talk siht like that and not do anything yourself.

This is exactly why I am running, to be the resistance. The United States and the world is not in the best place right now and it could get worse in the future. Be the change you want to see in the world!
I can see you're an idealist. Many young people who came to the European Parliament were like that, they wanted to make a difference, but the reality kicked them in the butt and pushed them into the same boundaries their predecessors were pushed into. €8000 a month is not a small sum, people will do a lot to retain it for another year, and then for another, and ideals slowly move to the side. The more you have, the more you want...


Title: Re: All politics is bullshit, just a sideshow or distraction
Post by: frendsento on January 28, 2017, 02:34:13 PM
Because of politics there is a government , and government was always been a vital part of the society without rulers everything will be a chaos ! I believe that government through politics has been created for a purpose and its for the better good of the society ! Dont focus on politics , Focus on your own life!


Title: Re: All politics is bullshit, just a sideshow or distraction
Post by: DrVaribo on January 28, 2017, 03:10:09 PM
Because of politics there is a government , and government was always been a vital part of the society without rulers everything will be a chaos ! I believe that government through politics has been created for a purpose and its for the better good of the society ! Dont focus on politics , Focus on your own life!
I agree with you. But it should be ideally. In fact, we see a completely different picture. Politicians often pursue their own interests and paying for it in the interests of the state and its people. How to be in this case? Silent and obediently wait?


Title: Re: All politics is bullshit, just a sideshow or distraction
Post by: Xester on January 29, 2017, 11:48:21 AM
Stupid and.or psychopaths running the system it is bad to see this happening and none of the political bullshit being discussed matters as it is just a sideshow. They do everything they can to distract us from reality.

We dont get what you are implying, it is not clear and vague. But one thing is for sure you possibly have grudges or bad experience with the way your government rules your country. We cannot blame you since that is real situation that there are some politicians that are hiding the truth from the public so they can continue using the public funds for their own benefit. All we can do is hope and pray that a good leader will be elected to the position to bring a new change.


Title: Re: All politics is bullshit, just a sideshow or distraction
Post by: JofryTheKing on January 29, 2017, 12:48:37 PM
Stupid and.or psychopaths running the system it is bad to see this happening and none of the political bullshit being discussed matters as it is just a sideshow. They do everything they can to distract us from reality.

We dont get what you are implying, it is not clear and vague. But one thing is for sure you possibly have grudges or bad experience with the way your government rules your country. We cannot blame you since that is real situation that there are some politicians that are hiding the truth from the public so they can continue using the public funds for their own benefit. All we can do is hope and pray that a good leader will be elected to the position to bring a new change.
And when you consider that there is no God then your prayers are not going to help anything. No one will punish politicians embezzlers. View all dictators and tyrants removed from power not God, and the people.


Title: Re: All politics is bullshit, just a sideshow or distraction
Post by: t2yax on January 30, 2017, 10:09:34 AM
I really hate politics since then, but if they're saying that the POLITICS IS BULLSHIT, for me yes and no. Yes its bullshit but not the politics itself but the people whose inside it, the people who govern the country but not in a good way that we want. And No because we need politics/government to ruled a country like mine. Its just the people in it is the problem. 


Title: Re: All politics is bullshit, just a sideshow or distraction
Post by: joebrook on January 30, 2017, 11:09:56 AM
As long as the end result is good and beneficial for the citizens of the country, Its all good but if its a politics of looting and plundering the nations resources then its not what I will support.


Title: Re: All politics is bullshit, just a sideshow or distraction
Post by: JofryTheKing on January 30, 2017, 11:52:45 AM
As long as the end result is good and beneficial for the citizens of the country, Its all good but if its a politics of looting and plundering the nations resources then its not what I will support.
Any people to blame for the fact some political leaders they bring to power. The more a politician promises, the less he will do. The exception is Trump. If he will do what he promised the Americans will regret it for many years to come.