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Hello everyone.

I wanna share our last prediction  ::)  received from our computer running jokerdragon algorithm 7.7.

BTC price right now its 173US$.  :-\
JDBIF points to a raise to 250US$ level, very soon.  8)

Check details here: jdbif7.blogspot.com (http://jdbif7.blogspot.com)

Current price is 150US$, your prediction does not seem really accurate.

Accurate... Very accurate
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yep, no algorithm is perfect. We cutted losses seeling at 130US$ last time MtGox was online...

By the way, we are re buying and raising shares value of JDBIF:

Recent Orderexecutions
Date   Type   Price   Quantity   Amount   
April 11, 2013 21:11    Buy   0.0070   2   0.0140   BTC
April 11, 2013 21:11    Buy   0.0070   8   0.0560   BTC
April 11, 2013 17:31    Buy   0.0070   2   0.0140   BTC
April 11, 2013 11:27    Buy   0.0085   10   0.0850   BTC
April 10, 2013 17:01    Buy   0.0084   1   0.0084   BTC
April 10, 2013 16:40    Buy   0.0085   360   3.0600   BTC
April 10, 2013 16:39    Buy   0.0075   140   1.0500   BTC
April 10, 2013 16:38    Buy   0.0060   50   0.3000   BTC
April 10, 2013 16:37    Buy   0.0060   50   0.3000   BTC
April 10, 2013 16:34    Buy   0.0060   50   0.3000   BTC
April 10, 2013 16:31    Buy   0.0060   830   4.9800   BTC
April 10, 2013 12:41    Buy   0.0089   2   0.0178   BTC
April 10, 2013 12:41    Buy   0.0089   8   0.0712   BTC
April 10, 2013 07:21    Buy   0.0089   2   0.0178   BTC
April 10, 2013 03:21    Buy   0.0089   10   0.0890   BTC
April 10, 2013 03:21    Buy   0.0089   20   0.1780   BTC
April 10, 2013 02:32    Buy   0.0080   100   0.8000   BTC
April 10, 2013 02:28    Buy   0.0070   60   0.4200   BTC
April 09, 2013 23:33    Buy   0.0070   40   0.2800   BTC
April 09, 2013 20:36    Buy   0.0060   100   0.6000   BTC
April 09, 2013 10:17    Buy   0.0090   10   0.0900   BTC
April 08, 2013 23:18    Buy   0.0090   10   0.0900   BTC
April 08, 2013 23:14    Buy   0.0059   24   0.1416   BTC
April 08, 2013 23:00    Buy   0.0050   30   0.1500   BTC
April 08, 2013 23:00    Buy   0.0050   664   3.3200   BTC
April 08, 2013 23:00    Buy   0.0049   199   0.9751   BTC
April 08, 2013 16:41    Buy   0.0049   10   0.0490   BTC
April 08, 2013 15:52    Buy   0.0049   54   0.2646   BTC
April 08, 2013 15:52    Buy   0.0049   9   0.0441   BTC
April 08, 2013 15:52    Buy   0.0047   15   0.0705   BTC
April 08, 2013 15:51    Buy   0.0046   60   0.2760   BTC
April 08, 2013 14:05    Buy   0.0046   10   0.0460   BTC
April 08, 2013 14:05    Buy   0.0046   10   0.0460   BTC
April 08, 2013 14:05    Buy   0.0045   5   0.0225   BTC
April 08, 2013 14:05    Buy   0.0044   40   0.1760   BTC
April 08, 2013 12:36    Buy   0.0044   5   0.0220   BTC
April 08, 2013 09:02    Buy   0.0045   65   0.2925   BTC
April 08, 2013 08:58    Buy   0.0045   9   0.0405   BTC
April 08, 2013 06:51    Buy   0.0045   10   0.0450   BTC
April 08, 2013 06:50    Buy   0.0045   10   0.0450   BTC
April 08, 2013 06:50    Buy   0.0042   5   0.0210   BTC

What about now ? @ 80USD per BTC ?

You'll have a long queue of investors after such a great prediction  :D

Have you tried it on past data?

Basically You just hit the Panic-sell button in your head/brain & added more instability to the market during the crash .... However I would say it WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN FAIR if you didnt sell !

It's not a question of "perfection" (Someone should name an informal logical flaw for people who defend "It isn't working" with "Nothing's perfect")
So if we assume your algorithm is the purple line.  Then at what point in the timeline was it generated?  On Feb 13th with no additional input?  Is it continuously integrating data?  At what point was the down turn predicted.

Like so many things, there is nothing about the graph which says that the algorithm is of any use.
  
(not even touching on that the data has been picked not randomly selected...all the things that tell me that the world needs remedial math)

not what I am seeing right now... hehehe  8)

Please just go away and come back when you know something about something.

Thanks for making me laugh a lot.  ;D Yours words are full of content.  8)

Must be a pretty forced laugh but I suppose that happens when you're eating crow. So far, as I've stated you really haven't shown anything resembling a useful argument that your algorithm is predictive of anything.

Person with zero content posts === YOU

Obviusly, I can't reveal how my algorithm trade, or my business is dead.
Time will give reason to me or to you. I trust my system. Best Regards.

Couldn't you have just generated your purple line with a weighted average of past prices? Show us a short term future prediction instead of a "prediction" that happens to match historical prices.

Ok, on the way.  :)

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-bDlE0YJkBSY/UWlVYClfkPI/AAAAAAAAAFU/26jO-M-JnTY/s1600/JDBIF+_+EARLY+PREDICTION_02.png

Again, 250us$ soon. jdbif7.blogspot.com (http://jdbif7.blogspot.com)

What you should show is at what point each prediction was made and how far it extended forward then we would have something to compare to.  If your algorithm is continuously integrating new information then of course it can look good.  If you had taken math above the high school level you would know that post-hoc you can create an algorithm which PERFECTLY matches any series at discrete points.
Not necessarily.  You haven't set out anything resembling a criteria for success or failure.  For example when your algorithm DIDN'T predict $80 you just cherry picked a price above $80 to imply the price is going up.  So from what I see you're probably not going to be convinced.
Spoken like every know-nothing in the financial sector.

How you know my algorithm DIDN'T predict $80? I don't share every single prediction on net. Only to your information, after the drop from 130US$, the JDBIF algorithm predicted 75US$, and it reached that point as a buy point with sucess.
I see more offenses than conversation here. Your avatar shows much about yourself.

Then your algorithm doesn't predict out very far.  Your post was April 11th which doesn't show a $80 price and the post about $80 was on the 12th.
Again, not enough information to validate it.  Not to mention that a "buy point" (at some arbitrary point in the future) isn't the same as predicting the price of BTC.
I see more you trying to weasel out of your implied claim than anything else.  Provide the past predictions over a series of times at fixed intervals.  Provide an objective standard for saying that your algorithm works.  Otherwise what I said pretty much stands.  You've provided nothing that is useful for validating your claim.
Spider Jerusalem is a symbol of people who don't put up with bullshit.  If what you say is true...then it says a lot more about your words than mine.

That doesn't prove anything, I could claim my "algorithm" "predicted" 240 on the 9th, 120 on the 10th, and 60 on the the 12th.

I say provide us with price predictions for the next 7 days. Yesterday's "prediction" with the crude growth line drawn over the increase from 60 to 120 transposed sideways a little has so far failed to pan out.

Agreed that future predictions means he can't simply lie.  That wasn't my presumption.   It seems plausible he has something he calls an algorithm.  I suspect, like some technical analysis people I've met.  He's just fooling himself.  However the problem with future predictions is that they themselves are information and could affect the outcome (e.g. knowing that $200 is going to be hit tomorrow could change what a large group of people do today)

You could mitigate this buy using "sealed envelop" predictions.

I really don't think enough people would base their decisions on some guy's kooky "predictions" without waiting to see if they're actually accurate. If they do I guess he succeeded in what he set out to do.

Agree with previous comments. This is all worthless unless you can back it up with some evidence, like posting a short-term future prediction - so that when the time comes, the accuracy can be measured.


BB.

In 7 days we gonna hit US$50 or less. I guess this is clearly enough. Thanks for the attention.

To be more accurate, in less than 7 days.  :'(

Trade opportunity on short-term:

Rebuy at 70-76 US$ range, Sell at 84-90 US$ range.

Why would you do that if you know the price will hit $50.. wait till 50 and resell at 90 (even if the price goes up).

Hi,
What will be the price on April, 19th?

Thanks in advance :)

Hehehe :P

Best of luck predicting.. Pretty impressive if it works atleats 51% of the time ;D

and if hits US$ 50 then 25US$?

We will keep track.  8)

I don't have crystal ball.

Yawn.  At what depth?  Having one BTC available at $50 isn't exactly useful.  This is one of the problems with talking about predicting pricing.  People who are speculating want to invest $X and get a return of $Y over some period.  However when I make trades I notice that there often simply aren't enough coins selling at a particular price to get the entire sell/buy in at that price.

So "we" meaning Mt. Gox is going to hit $50 by Friday.  Chances are JokerDragon will claim he was right even if it doesn't or make the "the algorithm isn't perfect" excuse.

But we have the assurance of your algorithm that it will hit $200 "very soon".  So why worry?
I hope you are joking about that.

Ok, ignored, since you doesn't know how to keep up a decent conversation. Throw your rocks on another fool.

I doesn't know how English as well as you.

Seriously, if you have to run away from the conversation under the mildest of criticism...why bother opening your mouth?

Trade Happy 01.  8)

Target OK 01. Just happened.

Accuracy Ok 01. Hit 50.01.  ;D

so... I know the rocks. Where is the claps?  ::)

Like I said...anything to you would be a success.  Did you not understand that? ::) ::) ::) ::)

Yep. I said 50, and was 50.01. Fail.  ;D

Any other predictions ? Is it going back to 100 any soon (like this 1 or 2 weeks) ?

Soon. How soon? - NFI!!! Now go watch Spaceballs!

Except you counted it as a win...and you probably would have at larger values until you get to say "no algorithm is perfect" - which means, in your mind anyway there's no such thing as disconfirming evidence.

This idea of giving early predictions to JDBIF shareholders is under votation on Crypto::Stocks.  ;D

Good info is money dude$.  8)

https://cryptostocks.com (https://cryptostocks.com)

Just remembering... it hit US$ 50.01. In 3 days.  :o That's 99.98004% accuracy.  8)

Only if you're very very stupid.

I've already given some guidance as to how the algorithm can be evaluated that still stands...unmet of course.  Because evaluating things sanely and objectively is a bad thing to do...or something.

jgraham - This user is currently ignored.  :D

...and if you want your investments run by someone unproven *AND* infantile then you can call JokerDragon. :D :D :D

What software are you using on your blog to monitor your holdings? i.e. in the most recent screenshot showing positions.

More specifically, how do I short APPL with bitcoins?

Hello, what you call "software" is the outside interface of 1broker.com site. We use a trade system with APIs to monitor them and take action. On 1broker you can also manually short/long positions with APPL, Microsoft, Google and Facebook. Also Dax, DowJones 30, S&P500 index avaliable. Most commons currency pairs also avaliable to trade too. Only pair closed under review is BTC/USD right now. 1broker is one of our best partners of JDBIF. Interesting, we have APPL ready to start a short position at JDBIF. Don't forget to use stop loss!-) Trading at market is a hard activity to humans, leave some part to our ro-bots. And to do so, get some JDBIF shares/options too, so you can grow your BTCs even while sleeping, without worrying about the market. Last week at 1st stage shares price coming on!

https://1broker.com (https://1broker.com)  - BTC trade site - 1Broker allows you to participate in several financial markets with Bitcoins, and it is a JDBIF partner.

jdbif7.blogspot.com (http://jdbif7.blogspot.com) - JDBIF Reports and 2013 Business Plan - Early price predictions (we can extend this service to another stocks/currencys, not only BTC/USD. The idea of receving forecasts after getting at least 1.000 shares of JDBIF is under votation on Crypto::Stocks votation system.)

https://cryptostocks.com/securities/11 (https://cryptostocks.com/securities/11) - JDBIF info at our house, Crypto::Stocks

https://cryptostocks.com/shareoptions (https://cryptostocks.com/shareoptions) - Where to buy our options

https://cryptostocks.com/orders?ticker=JDBIF (https://cryptostocks.com/orders?ticker=JDBIF) - Where to buy our shares

Posted @ ~$100, went to $50.01. Accuracy is easy when you make a prediction every 3 hours. DO NOT FALL PREY TO THESE SCAMMERS.

lol. You should look at an actual chart. And check dates. Troller. LOL  :D

What are you even talking about? It IS an actual chart that YOU annotated and posted on the 13th saying price will now run back to 250.

Stop. Just stop. You don't even know how to map trend lines.

And price isn't going there? Pretty obvius you just wanna troll me. The lines are NOT trend lines, dude. Watch what is going on NOW with BTC price. If other people see this, you just making myself more trustfull. Thanks again.  ;D Btw, also ignored from now.  8)

You're really really bad at this. Once again proven to be an idiot.

Hi Jokerdragon,

Can you be explicit about how your prediction algorithm works?  If not maybe this entire thread is not very productive...

That comment aside, I will share my person view, which is, BTC prices will be volatile between $50 and $500 for the next couple years, but the overall trend will be highly correlated with 1) inflation and 2) technology company valuation.

The volatility will be correlated with 1) vol of bitcoin mining technology 2) vol of cost/efficiency of electricity 3) vol of investor interest in the bitcoin concept.  This equation is further complicated by the automated difficulty adjustment that is built into the protocol.  I haven't seen any research on how to compensate for the difficulty adjustment when calculating the overall equilibrium state.

Thanks,

Negative feedback added.  Avoid at all costs.

Resurrecting another old thread on this con-job.  He just released some more BS news on CS announcements.  Don't be fooled, this guy is a known scammer that blew the previous iterations of his long-con at the poker tables (yeah BIF, I know about you buster).  Go get yourself a real job you twat-waffle!