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Title: ATI HD 5830 - 256 -bit GDDR5 vrs 128 -bit GDDR5
Post by: neijek.bit on June 15, 2011, 12:56:37 PM
Hey guys,

I have the oddest issue, I've been shopping for a nice ATI card, I've seen a lot of very very good statistics in the hardware forum for the ATI 5830 card. While I started shopping for it though i seam to find 2 different versions.. both with GDDR5 BUT on some sites they say there is a 128 memory interface version and the other 256 bit version.

This is the "supposed" 128 version
 SAPPHIRE AMD RADEON HD5830 XTREME PC
● AMD RADEON HD5830 EXTREME
● PCI-E 1GB GDDR5
● HDMI, DVI, D-PORT

and then the 256 bit version

VGA SAPPHIRE ATI PCI-E HD5830 1G GDDR5 D
● ATI PCI-E HD 5830
● 1GB GDDR5
● HDMI, DVI, DISPLY PORT

but on the saphire site, all the 5830 that i find all have 256 bit, i'm wondering if this is a mistake or what it might be as well as, has any one had experience between the two "versions" of the card and will they cause differences in mining speed? I noticed the memory load on my nvidia card is really low during mining so i was not too sure it would make a difference.


Thanks guys


Title: Re: ATI HD 5830 - 256 -bit GDDR5 vrs 128 -bit GDDR5
Post by: dcconsulting on June 15, 2011, 01:30:45 PM
Using Phoenix I get 306Mhash/s Average - Overclocked to 995 and memory on 300 though using Trixx


Title: Re: ATI HD 5830 - 256 -bit GDDR5 vrs 128 -bit GDDR5
Post by: neijek.bit on June 17, 2011, 11:45:48 AM
I'm sorry I must of not been so clear about my question...


Anyhow, I found out that there are no 128 -bit versions of this card, or better none from sapphire. After calling the merchant I had him give me the exact part number, and was able to find it on the sapphire help line and it is indeed a 256bit memory interface card so i bought it (113e). Plenty in stock btw if you live in Europe.

Meanwhile I don't have a good way of testing this, but it would still be nice to know how much the memory interface would affect mining (as in speed loss/gain based on 128 vr 256 bit interface).. i don't see my miner using much memory at all on the card thus I'm thinking it would not as most work is just gpu based but i do see on the forums that tweaking the speed of the memory does make differences so i'm not sure ><

thanks for all that replied btw.



Title: Re: ATI HD 5830 - 256 -bit GDDR5 vrs 128 -bit GDDR5
Post by: kw71 on June 17, 2011, 12:11:48 PM
If there is any difference in mining speed it will be negligible.  Apparently the memory on the card is barely used at all when hashing.


Title: Re: ATI HD 5830 - 256 -bit GDDR5 vrs 128 -bit GDDR5
Post by: wyze on June 17, 2011, 01:39:10 PM
Yes, mining doesn't use the memory on the card at all. Most people under-clock the memory all the way down to save on heat and power consumption. I believe the lowest you can go on the 5830 is 300MHz, but don't quote me on that.


Title: Re: ATI HD 5830 - 256 -bit GDDR5 vrs 128 -bit GDDR5
Post by: GorgonSed on June 17, 2011, 02:03:31 PM
Yes, mining doesn't use the memory on the card at all. Most people under-clock the memory all the way down to save on heat and power consumption. I believe the lowest you can go on the 5830 is 300MHz, but don't quote me on that.

If I push my 5830's below 300MHz memory clock, I lose mining performance.
At 300MHz and above, I do not lose any performance.
So you *can*, but there's no point in lowering further.


Title: Re: ATI HD 5830 - 256 -bit GDDR5 vrs 128 -bit GDDR5
Post by: wyze on June 17, 2011, 02:07:14 PM
Yes, mining doesn't use the memory on the card at all. Most people under-clock the memory all the way down to save on heat and power consumption. I believe the lowest you can go on the 5830 is 300MHz, but don't quote me on that.

If I push my 5830's below 300MHz memory clock, I lose mining performance.
At 300MHz and above, I do not lose any performance.
So you *can*, but there's no point in lowering further.

Ah, I gotcha. Thanks for the info!