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Title: How many % fee do you pay to convert to fiat?
Post by: kykc221 on January 03, 2017, 03:26:53 AM
How much does it cost for you guys to convert to fiat, and is the converting process convenient for you?


I'm new to mining and over the past 3 months and mined about $500 of various cryptos. They are converted to btc on Poloniex, moved to Gemini, then converted to USD and withdrawn to my bank.
My bank fees are about 8% unfortunately. I'm in Hong Kong and have no easy access to US banks or btc to Amazon gift card services. Any tips on lowering these fees?


Title: Re: How many % fee do you pay to convert to fiat?
Post by: Gendange Cak Mat on January 03, 2017, 03:33:56 AM
in my country it's very easy to convert BTC to Indonesian Rupiah, just sell my btc at vip.bitcoin.co.id with fee only 1%
why you use usd ? why not to sell your bitcoin at local exchanger, i think you will get lower fee.


Title: Re: How many % fee do you pay to convert to fiat?
Post by: Leonard2016 on January 03, 2017, 04:38:56 AM
it is very different from country to country and only depends on the method you use to convert to USD.
for example there are many exchanges you can check out yourself and read their fee rules for withdrawal.

but where i live, since there is no exchange that works with banks in my country, i am forced to sell to individuals (similar to selling on localbitcoins) and receive the money from them. there is no fees there but they mostly give a lower price. although i have found someone who offers me a pretty good deal, so you may want to look around a bit too.


Title: Re: How many % fee do you pay to convert to fiat?
Post by: MingLee on January 03, 2017, 04:48:47 AM
On the exchange that I use I think I only have something like 0.5% fees, might be a bit smaller than that, since I never really paid attention to how much.

If I'm correct, the exchange I use also only taxes buy orders instead of everything, so its even cheaper to move money from Bitcoin to dollars, but what's the fun in that?


Title: Re: How many % fee do you pay to convert to fiat?
Post by: Kakmakr on January 03, 2017, 06:11:57 AM
I pay a 1% fee on my exchange and they also report all transactions to the IRS, so I have to pay Capital Gain taxes on all my trading profits. I can also buy/sell bitcoins directly to people and then smaller fees are usually worked into the transaction, but that seldom happens. I do not trust these direct person to person deals, because of the trust issues when you work without Escrow services. ^hmmmm^

 


Title: Re: How many % fee do you pay to convert to fiat?
Post by: jcojci on January 03, 2017, 06:21:25 AM
i think its about 1%-1.5% but i think its fine for me, because i only sell my bitcoin with my friends which is receive the exchanges too like other third party.


Title: Re: How many % fee do you pay to convert to fiat?
Post by: sportis on January 03, 2017, 06:23:49 AM
In my country there is not an exchange from bitcoin to fiat except if any body uses an ATM machine. If anybody wants a more permanent cooperation then uses Kraken and the rest of exchanges. Others they use cards (load in btc and withdraw to fiat). So it's usual most times face to face deal with trusted persons or using banks (SEPA, Web banking).


Title: Re: How many % fee do you pay to convert to fiat?
Post by: Mometaskers on January 08, 2017, 03:13:27 AM
In our local exchange the fee varies depending on where you cash out (it's available in pawnshops for example). I don't know the actual percentage but I know there are some that charge a fixed fee instead. I've only tried banks, they don't charge anything.


Title: Re: How many % fee do you pay to convert to fiat?
Post by: Yakamoto on January 08, 2017, 03:21:45 AM
I think I only pay something like 0.3%, I only notice fees whenever I sell something and for a majority of the transactions I make on the exchange (one way $200-ish a few days ago) I paid only something like a dollar on the exchange.

If anything I think they tax buy orders more, likely close to 1-2%. Never been a noticeable issue for me though.


Title: Re: How many % fee do you pay to convert to fiat?
Post by: DannyHamilton on January 08, 2017, 03:34:41 AM
How much does it cost for you guys to convert to fiat,

I don't pay a fee.  The fee is paid to me.

I have a valuable thing that other people want (bitcoins). If they want them, I require that they pay me a fee. Then I let them have the bitcoins.

and is the converting process convenient for you?

It is convenient for me, but it probably helps that I'm not in a hurry to convert.

I simply put a listing on localbitcoins.com and then wait for someone nearby to want some bitcoins.  They pay me for the bitcoins PLUS the fee that I set when I created the localbitcoins advertisement, and I send them the bitcoins.


Title: Re: How many % fee do you pay to convert to fiat?
Post by: Rahar02 on January 08, 2017, 03:47:26 AM
How much does it cost for you guys to convert to fiat, and is the converting process convenient for you?


I'm new to mining and over the past 3 months and mined about $500 of various cryptos. They are converted to btc on Poloniex, moved to Gemini, then converted to USD and withdrawn to my bank.
My bank fees are about 8% unfortunately. I'm in Hong Kong and have no easy access to US banks or btc to Amazon gift card services. Any tips on lowering these fees?

I'm convert at local exchange and consider as my friend (friends of my friend ;D).
He give me good price and decent fee just like 0.04% for every transaction as I convert in small amount such as BTC0.05-0.1
Faster and trusted exchange I think, just sometimes he's busy and I have to be patient waiting for transaction.
I suggest to looking for local exchange in Facebook or bitcoin community in HongKong, There must be some of them offered convert services.


Title: Re: How many % fee do you pay to convert to fiat?
Post by: traderethereum on January 08, 2017, 04:02:22 AM
How much does it cost for you guys to convert to fiat, and is the converting process convenient for you?


I'm new to mining and over the past 3 months and mined about $500 of various cryptos. They are converted to btc on Poloniex, moved to Gemini, then converted to USD and withdrawn to my bank.
My bank fees are about 8% unfortunately. I'm in Hong Kong and have no easy access to US banks or btc to Amazon gift card services. Any tips on lowering these fees?

I'm convert at local exchange and consider as my friend (friends of my friend ;D).
He give me good price and decent fee just like 0.04% for every transaction as I convert in small amount such as BTC0.05-0.1
Faster and trusted exchange I think, just sometimes he's busy and I have to be patient waiting for transaction.
I suggest to looking for local exchange in Facebook or bitcoin community in HongKong, There must be some of them offered convert services.

yup me too, i am prefer to exchange with my friends too because i know him and he is one of my closest friends so i am believe him, and for the % fee, sometime my friend don't want to take any fees because he make big profit with the other people that withdraw with him. but i think i am pay my fee is about 0.1 % as i don't thinking much with fees.


Title: Re: How many % fee do you pay to convert to fiat?
Post by: NEWGOODOUBLE on January 08, 2017, 04:37:57 AM
i think its about 1%-1.5% but i think its fine for me, because i only sell my bitcoin with my friends which is receive the exchanges too like other third party.
I think it is the custom fee from your friend, if you were close to him you could ask him to lower the fee to 0.5% as much as I did on my friend :D its more profitable lol


Title: Re: How many % fee do you pay to convert to fiat?
Post by: Xester on January 08, 2017, 05:36:42 AM
In our country the fee in converting our bitcoins to fiat currency is less than one percent. IF we use remittance centers then the fee is less than 1% but if we send it to the banks there are zero fees at all. Here in the Philippines bitcoin has a big future and has a large market. And since Filipinos are the number one user of social media in the whole world bitcoin has become a second currency.


Title: Re: How many % fee do you pay to convert to fiat?
Post by: pinoycash on January 08, 2017, 05:44:09 AM
Usually my online wallet charges 1% upto 2% when converting but its instant and hassle free i cant get my money to ATM or remittance center instantly.


Title: Re: How many % fee do you pay to convert to fiat?
Post by: xuan87 on January 08, 2017, 06:26:44 AM
in my country it needs 1% fee to convert it to fiat, to be honest I don't like the procedure to convert it to fiat, because there are so many document that I need to prepare to verify my ID, but because there are no store accepting bitcoin yet, i don't have the choice but to give my ID and pay the 1% fee


Title: Re: How many % fee do you pay to convert to fiat?
Post by: Amph on January 08, 2017, 08:06:01 AM
i don't convert from fiat to bitcoin, i acquire bitcoin directly, via mining and other way, via minin gyou have basically the fee of the pool which is 1% all the time plus some pool have the fee applyed on the withdrawal

then you have th fee on bittrex/poloniex/etc... to convert your coin to bitcoin, but they are ll very small, if you need then to exchange to fiat i have only 0.9% fee with kraken


Title: Re: How many % fee do you pay to convert to fiat?
Post by: talkbitcoin on January 08, 2017, 08:32:37 AM
How much does it cost for you guys to convert to fiat, and is the converting process convenient for you?


I'm new to mining and over the past 3 months and mined about $500 of various cryptos. They are converted to btc on Poloniex, moved to Gemini, then converted to USD and withdrawn to my bank.
My bank fees are about 8% unfortunately. I'm in Hong Kong and have no easy access to US banks or btc to Amazon gift card services. Any tips on lowering these fees?

your best option is to find an exchange in your own country to exchange bitcoin/altcoins for fiat there because it will be easy and will be much cheaper than any other options.
since you live in Hong Kong you may find the Chinese board here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=30.0) more helpful to your situation since you can find others there.


Title: Re: How many % fee do you pay to convert to fiat?
Post by: Dudeperfect on January 08, 2017, 08:34:25 AM
I am not lying but when I convert my bitcoins to fiat then I usually make 1% to 10% profit on it sometimes. I live in India and the price of bitcoin is a little bit more than the international price so suppose if you are sending me $100 in bitcoins then I usually receive anything between $101 to $110 when I convert it to fiat currency. However, there is always fluctuation in the price so this is not a sustainable percentage structure.


Title: Re: How many % fee do you pay to convert to fiat?
Post by: iTradeChips on January 08, 2017, 08:40:47 AM
like someone earlier replied, i know a few people in my locality whom i can have direct trade with at spot prices and thats roughly zero percent. if i cant do it, i will try to look for 0.5% that is what is acceptable for me. i also try to achieve that 0.5% whenever i am moving money from sites. so if the fee is 1coin flat for example, i make it a point to move at least 200 coins or above (how i wish i have that amount in btc lol). if i cant do this, i can tolerate up to 1%. i will only pay more than 1% in fees if i absolutely cannot avoid it. these small numbers can add up especially when you do a lot of moving.


Title: Re: How many % fee do you pay to convert to fiat?
Post by: lambdaE on January 08, 2017, 08:42:08 AM
Sometimes I pay around 3-5% fees depending on the need and urgency I need fiat while sometimes if someone asks me to sell bitcoins then I even charge 5-10% of my own :) so its a good business too for me. The problem is that I do not have regular customers and no proper setup for doing the same.


Title: Re: How many % fee do you pay to convert to fiat?
Post by: Darker45 on January 08, 2017, 08:48:11 AM

In my country the cheapest is like 3%. That's their conversion rate into local currency and there are possible additional charges depending which do you want to take your cash. 3% is still big for me though as I am usually happy with a 3% gains per crypto trade. 


Title: Re: How many % fee do you pay to convert to fiat?
Post by: Juggy777 on January 08, 2017, 08:49:07 AM
How much does it cost for you guys to convert to fiat, and is the converting process convenient for you?


I'm new to mining and over the past 3 months and mined about $500 of various cryptos. They are converted to btc on Poloniex, moved to Gemini, then converted to USD and withdrawn to my bank.
My bank fees are about 8% unfortunately. I'm in Hong Kong and have no easy access to US banks or btc to Amazon gift card services. Any tips on lowering these fees?

Why do you have to pay such high fees. There are simpler and better method. Does your country not except paypal. If it does then you would not be required to be paid such high fees. People here convert for free or at a fees. There are many who do it. I think you should look at currency exchange or pm me. I will send you the link, you can check the review and trade, not sure if we are allowed to post direct links. But have a look at the currencies section.


Title: Re: How many % fee do you pay to convert to fiat?
Post by: digaran on January 08, 2017, 09:00:50 AM
I do this with a local exchange which is automated and I can see the amount of money that I'll receive it even refreshes every 20 seconds and it depends on price of dollar against my country's currency if I'm getting more or less but they always calculate a %2.5 fee in converting dollar to local currency, all I needed first to register with my own credit card and ID verification and the rest happens smooth and easy.


Title: Re: How many % fee do you pay to convert to fiat?
Post by: lionheart78 on January 08, 2017, 09:19:31 AM
I think the charge when I convert my Bitcoin to Fiat currency is around 3% to 3.5%.  It is quite a hassle because it takes some time to get the money.  Depend on the option we have to choose, it ranges from 30 min. to half a day.  Sometimes the 30 mins. have to wait for 3 to 4 hours.  Kinda frustrating since they do not do what is advertise in their site but this is the easiest way I can conver Bitcoin to Currency.


Title: Re: How many % fee do you pay to convert to fiat?
Post by: GMPoison on January 08, 2017, 09:31:24 AM
I think most services charge 1% - 3%, the one I use charges 2.5% so it's not too bad.


Title: Re: How many % fee do you pay to convert to fiat?
Post by: ACAB on January 08, 2017, 09:32:42 AM
I pay 0 fees because im lucky and I have a buyer who buys bitcoin from me regularly who pays me above 3% from spot


Title: Re: How many % fee do you pay to convert to fiat?
Post by: royalfestus on January 08, 2017, 11:04:39 AM
In my country there is not an exchange from bitcoin to fiat except if any body uses an ATM machine. If anybody wants a more permanent cooperation then uses Kraken and the rest of exchanges. Others they use cards (load in btc and withdraw to fiat). So it's usual most times face to face deal with trusted persons or using banks (SEPA, Web banking).
I like this thread, this is a real life daily challenge of people staying and dealing bitcoin in some third world countries. If bitcoin need to get global, this must be handled. They cant make exchanges like we do and they need to put it forward as exchange to their daily life. So With the face to face transaction you have advantage of negotiation, however what is the % range of transaction fee.

How much does it cost for you guys to convert to fiat, and is the converting process convenient for you?


I'm new to mining and over the past 3 months and mined about $500 of various cryptos. They are converted to btc on Poloniex, moved to Gemini, then converted to USD and withdrawn to my bank.
My bank fees are about 8% unfortunately. I'm in Hong Kong and have no easy access to US banks or btc to Amazon gift card services. Any tips on lowering these fees?

Why do you have to pay such high fees. There are simpler and better method. Does your country not except paypal. If it does then you would not be required to be paid such high fees. People here convert for free or at a fees. There are many who do it. I think you should look at currency exchange or pm me. I will send you the link, you can check the review and trade, not sure if we are allowed to post direct links. But have a look at the currencies section.
some exchanges in this area take the advantages that they are few, sometimes some countries do not have more than one exchange, so definitely they exploit those who use bitcoin. Paypal is restricted in some countries to control their fiat value, so dollar get scarce and high in exchange


Title: Re: How many % fee do you pay to convert to fiat?
Post by: SvenBomvolen on January 08, 2017, 11:11:33 AM
   I didnt exchange my bitcoina for any fiat yet, I investigate where I can do it and one guy offer to do it for 5 %, that is OK, cause I would need to sell btc for dollars ( exchange will tale fee for that ) then to send dollars and in the end to exchange dollars for my currency. As you can notice process seems a bit hard, so I think 5 % that this guy takes is OK, and all members  here from my country talk good about him.


Title: Re: How many % fee do you pay to convert to fiat?
Post by: n0ne on January 08, 2017, 11:18:59 AM
For the purpose of converting bitcoin to fiat most of the time I prefer to make trade with traders. So only based upon the profit margin I select a particular trader. Only escrow fee is taken additional other than the converted amount of fiat.


Title: Re: How many % fee do you pay to convert to fiat?
Post by: TheLateGuy on January 08, 2017, 12:38:43 PM
I've never been to the only ATM that changes BTC into fiat in my country, but I've been to a country that's close to mine and they offered a 2.6% fee. A few weeks ago the fee was risen up to 3%, which isn't very much for the small sums I'm converting but it's still high compared to the banks' ATMs. I prefer to use the Bitcoin ones with higher fees and be anonymous rather than using the controlled system.


Title: Re: How many % fee do you pay to convert to fiat?
Post by: bryant.coleman on January 08, 2017, 04:21:38 PM
I have used localbitcoins and Bitcoin-based debit cards to convert my BTCs to fiat. Using Localbitcoins is simple, and the fee is usually 2% to 5%. But the problem is that since the cash is credited directly to the bank account, the authorities can track the transaction.

The second option is withdrawing physical cash through bank ATMs, using Bitcoin-based debit cards. This method is more anonymous, but there are multiple fees involved. There is a currency conversion fee, and debit card maintenance fee. Also there is a fixed charge levied for each of the ATM transactions.


Title: Re: How many % fee do you pay to convert to fiat?
Post by: severaldetails on January 08, 2017, 04:27:00 PM
I think that I pay about 1.4%
To me that is a very fair price, the site must make a living as well.
Especially because it's based in my home country. So I am supporting economy of my country as well.
That makes me sleep good at night.


Title: Re: How many % fee do you pay to convert to fiat?
Post by: Tanic on January 08, 2017, 04:30:48 PM
I use YoBitc for such kind of transactions and they take 0.2% fee to convert my bitcoins to ruble (Russian currency) and that's it. I almost do not loos anything of my money with such low fee.


Title: Re: How many % fee do you pay to convert to fiat?
Post by: BeGoods on January 08, 2017, 11:26:49 PM
i think its about 1%-1.5% but i think its fine for me, because i only sell my bitcoin with my friends which is receive the exchanges too like other third party.
if you exchange it to your friend, of course it will be up to you and your friend, it still could be changed according to your negotiations, but most exchanges. provides fee of about 1% -5%


Title: Re: How many % fee do you pay to convert to fiat?
Post by: Zaget on January 09, 2017, 12:55:59 AM
Around seven percent.


Title: Re: How many % fee do you pay to convert to fiat?
Post by: Marvell1 on January 09, 2017, 01:34:09 AM
Around seven percent.
lol u guys are paying to convert to fiat? I make a minimun of 3%  fiat side profit selling on paxful


Title: Re: How many % fee do you pay to convert to fiat?
Post by: mastica on January 10, 2017, 01:21:15 AM
The last time i had exchanged my bitcoin for fiat it cost me nothing, the buyer were a local buyer/seller of bitcoin we do have accounts at the same bank, soo he had paid me the rate of preev without anything up or down the moment of the transaction, i werent lucky because i sold at 700 and bitcoin went into 1100 dollars last year anyway.


Title: Re: How many % fee do you pay to convert to fiat?
Post by: BossMacko on January 10, 2017, 02:03:29 AM
Facebook is one of the easiest way to convert bitcoin to our currency or vise versa, I used to have traded several times already we always meet in starbucks and do the trade their. For example he will buy 1 Bitcoin and the current price of Bitcoin is 400$ i will sell 1 Bitcoin to my customer for 390$. You'll only get hassled but 0% scam if you meet up.


Title: Re: How many % fee do you pay to convert to fiat?
Post by: The_Dark_Knight on January 10, 2017, 02:32:01 AM
How much does it cost for you guys to convert to fiat, and is the converting process convenient for you?


I'm new to mining and over the past 3 months and mined about $500 of various cryptos. They are converted to btc on Poloniex, moved to Gemini, then converted to USD and withdrawn to my bank.
My bank fees are about 8% unfortunately. I'm in Hong Kong and have no easy access to US banks or btc to Amazon gift card services. Any tips on lowering these fees?
About 3 to 4 percent, I have basically the same problem as you since those fees come from my bank, I’m trying to see if other banks have lower fees but, when you talk about bitcoin, they don't even know what I’m talking about, so it has been difficult to know if other banks offer better rates.


Title: Re: How many % fee do you pay to convert to fiat?
Post by: lienfaye on January 10, 2017, 01:02:38 PM
I converted my btc to fiat yesterday and it cost me nothing. our local wallet has a feature where you can convert your btc directly to your bank account or any remittance you prefer to get your money, but this is only for verified members. if you use an exchanger well it will cost you around 5% i think.


Title: Re: How many % fee do you pay to convert to fiat?
Post by: DingDong87 on January 10, 2017, 02:53:21 PM
My exchanger asks me 5% fees if I take e-wallet payments and if I take bank cash he takes 7% fees. Also sometimes when he needs btc he offers me trades with 0% fees and I accept them if I have some btc to sell.


Title: Re: How many % fee do you pay to convert to fiat?
Post by: bitbunnny on January 10, 2017, 02:56:06 PM
If I need fiat I usualy use localbitcoins because I have trusted trader there who will convert Bitcoins to my local currency and pay it to bank account with very fair and reasonable exchange rate. I think that 5% is acceptable rate, everything above that would be too much to my opinion.


Title: Re: How many % fee do you pay to convert to fiat?
Post by: MMA on January 10, 2017, 05:58:23 PM
I converted my btc to fiat yesterday and it cost me nothing. our local wallet has a feature where you can convert your btc directly to your bank account or any remittance you prefer to get your money, but this is only for verified members. if you use an exchanger well it will cost you around 5% i think.
interesting that is very good that you convert your bitcoin into fat without any transacton fee. to me i think i pay 1 percent of total amount while converting bitcoin into fiat currency.and after that i have to pay bank charges for concerting it into my bank account.


Title: Re: How many % fee do you pay to convert to fiat?
Post by: Gameroid on January 10, 2017, 10:07:50 PM
My exchanger asks me 5% fees if I take e-wallet payments and if I take bank cash he takes 7% fees. Also sometimes when he needs btc he offers me trades with 0% fees and I accept them if I have some btc to sell.
i use different exchange and i think that every bitcoin has their price. to me the most reasonable fee is that of Urdu bit they only pay 0.5 percent. tha tis really too much reasonable fee. and that is the reason that i mostly use that exchange.


Title: Re: How many % fee do you pay to convert to fiat?
Post by: Skarner21 on January 10, 2017, 10:18:43 PM
Base in my caculation with our rates exchanging our bitcoin from that company i think 0.03% base in my own caculation and margin of buy and sell price from their website.. this is cheapest rate i think than the other country..


Title: Re: How many % fee do you pay to convert to fiat?
Post by: mornabo on January 10, 2017, 10:28:19 PM
I converted my btc to fiat yesterday and it cost me nothing. our local wallet has a feature where you can convert your btc directly to your bank account or any remittance you prefer to get your money, but this is only for verified members. if you use an exchanger well it will cost you around 5% i think.
wow it is a very nice facility dude, in my local exchange, if you want to convert bitcoin  to fiat and withdraw it into your bank. you must verify the data first, then your money will be charged a fee of 1%. but it was not too big


Title: Re: How many % fee do you pay to convert to fiat?
Post by: nara1892 on January 10, 2017, 10:49:32 PM
I ever convert bitcoin to fiat with a local exchange, and the fee is 0,8% if I am not mistaken. but when my friend converted it, he sometimes ask for fee around 0-0,5%. he is very kind really. that is why I alwyas convert my bitcoin to him when I need it.