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Title: Which tumbler to use
Post by: justone123 on January 04, 2017, 10:11:58 PM
I need to use a mixer/tumbler. Which one is good and has only good feedback. I've seen some have negative feedback and that they scamm..


Title: Re: Which tumbler to use
Post by: devans on January 04, 2017, 10:54:26 PM
If you're comfortable with the command line check out JoinMarket (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=919116.0). It's not perfect, but it's a trustless alternative to conventional tumblers for many use cases.


Title: Re: Which tumbler to use
Post by: CoinsOrDie on January 04, 2017, 11:53:19 PM
I would create an anonymous localbicoins and/or satoshidice account, deposit and then withdraw. They will send back your coins from unrelated addresses.


Title: Re: Which tumbler to use
Post by: eckmar on January 05, 2017, 01:08:17 AM
Best one at the moment is bitmixer. They were here for the longest time and there are no scam reports yet. I've personally used them 2 times with amounts over 1btc and all went fine. I can recommend them


Title: Re: Which tumbler to use
Post by: Ocytrem on January 05, 2017, 02:31:09 AM
Best one at the moment is bitmixer. They were here for the longest time and there are no scam reports yet. I've personally used them 2 times with amounts over 1btc and all went fine. I can recommend them

Indeed bitmixer is the way to go, its safe, easy to use with a tutorial and also trusted by a lot of people.


Title: Re: Which tumbler to use
Post by: jacee on January 05, 2017, 02:35:50 AM
I need to use a mixer/tumbler. Which one is good and has only good feedback. I've seen some have negative feedback and that they scamm..
I've only used cryptomixer and bitmixer. Both of them are proven to be a trusted service and they have no negative feedbacks against them. I am going to recommend you to use cryptomixer tho because I prefer to use it more because I like it's uimore and since I use it more compared to bitmixer that I have only tried using once.


Title: Re: Which tumbler to use
Post by: unholycactus on January 05, 2017, 03:04:51 AM
I would create an anonymous localbicoins and/or satoshidice account, deposit and then withdraw. They will send back your coins from unrelated addresses.

Slight risk of them closing your account for using their services incorrectly.
Withdrawal times can also be very long.


Title: Re: Which tumbler to use
Post by: Factmine on January 05, 2017, 03:44:15 AM
Try out bitmixer. I've use their service quite a few times and never had a problem with them. I probably mixed about 0.5BTC without any problems and the fees are quite lower than other mixers. It's fast and easy. I also had one problem with my transaction not confirming for about 24 hours. I asked support about it and said they will wait for the confirmation until 7 days. So, I was still fine.


Title: Re: Which tumbler to use
Post by: mbbct01 on January 05, 2017, 04:53:30 AM
use at your own risk any good tumbler/mixer site with good feed bac is ok if you can trust the feed back the best way I method I would use to get untraceable  coins is to make about 8 different wallets then keep moving them from one to another this s the method I use but also you can buy an sell stuff with them that will get you a fresh lots of coins 


Title: Re: Which tumbler to use
Post by: TravisNeko on January 05, 2017, 11:57:17 PM
Its just what you want, I use bitmixer as my tumbler but I also heard that Cryptomixer is good so its just your own choice indeed.


Title: Re: Which tumbler to use
Post by: OROBTC on January 06, 2017, 02:49:30 AM
...

I of course offer biased advice (Signature Campaign), but I have used bitmixer.io many times with great success.  The fee is very reasonable, the service works very well.

If you go with bitmixer.io (or anyone else), follow instructions carefully !!


Title: Re: Which tumbler to use
Post by: ArdiPrabowo on January 06, 2017, 02:51:46 AM
if you want mixer your coin
youre must use reputable service, don't use personal
you can mixer use [banned mixer] or bitmixer.io, the best mixer coin, with big volume transaction in bitcointalk


Title: Re: Which tumbler to use
Post by: jacee on January 06, 2017, 03:11:51 AM
use at your own risk any good tumbler/mixer site with good feed bac is ok if you can trust the feed back the best way I method I would use to get untraceable  coins is to make about 8 different wallets then keep moving them from one to another this s the method I use but also you can buy an sell stuff with them that will get you a fresh lots of coins 
Using that method you suggested will cost them to spend more fees than the fee they will spend in using a simple mixing service. Tho buying n sell stuff may work I think it's still not a way to completely remove the trace of your bitcoin or to get fresh new bitcoins.


Title: Re: Which tumbler to use
Post by: Taksonas on January 06, 2017, 04:37:11 AM
Like the most people I use the Bitmixer because its a good mixer and also very trusted indeed by a lot of people and that lets me use it very comfortably and it feels secure.


Title: Re: Which tumbler to use
Post by: Hazir on January 06, 2017, 06:10:54 AM
Just a word of advice about using mixing services in general: you never know who is behind mixer.
Popular conspiracy theory states, that big mixers were created by government agencies to keep track of mixed coins.
They would keep logs of every major transaction mixed by them and might use it in the future.
But again, even if government is not behind mixers, they actually gather and store info about mixed transactions and might release it someday.
Just be mindful of that.


Title: Re: Which tumbler to use
Post by: mobnepal on January 06, 2017, 09:33:51 AM
Bitmixer and cryptomixer are in business for fairly long time and have earned great reputation in the field of bitcoin mixing service. You could try any of them, both are reliable as well as fast and can handle fairly large volume.


Title: Re: Which tumbler to use
Post by: Catmony on January 06, 2017, 04:16:32 PM
As many have already suggested above you can rely on two bitmixer and cryptomixer.

Bitmixer.io = They are quite older and trusted by community.
[banned mixer] = They have launched few months ago but they are working smoothly and they have also verified their reserve of 2000 bitcoin so can be trusted.

Other than this two there are several mixer and you may also encounter similar named mixer services with different domain extention those are fishing sites so you have to look at the url everytime you want to mix your coins.


Title: Re: Which tumbler to use
Post by: BoXXoB on January 06, 2017, 09:47:14 PM
I would create an anonymous localbicoins and/or satoshidice account, deposit and then withdraw. They will send back your coins from unrelated addresses.

I wouldn't go with this. Not necessarily because it doesn't work but because that's really something site owners hate. I've heard a site owner talk about this happening and he certainly wasn't pleased it. And secondly they have no incentive to keep the information safe.

Please use Bitmixer (this is what I prefer) or any other dedicated service.


Title: Re: Which tumbler to use
Post by: n691309 on January 07, 2017, 05:33:19 PM
One guy posted an Idea above about depositing your BTC in a gambling site or exchange site and than send them from their. that Idea touched me.. It will reduce you the fee also and you'll be doing the whole mixing process by yourself. thats what I liked.


Title: Re: Which tumbler to use
Post by: ranlo on January 07, 2017, 11:50:59 PM
I need to use a mixer/tumbler. Which one is good and has only good feedback. I've seen some have negative feedback and that they scamm..

Here's the issue with mixers: they don't work. There have been multiple studies in the past showing that through simple, automated analytics, you can still track 99%+ of the mixed inputs/outputs and tell where they ended up. Remember, BTC is pseudo-anonymous, not anonymous. All you're doing is adding in a new layer of obfuscation but anyone could break that at any time.


Title: Re: Which tumbler to use
Post by: BitHodler on January 08, 2017, 12:27:49 AM
I need to use a mixer/tumbler. Which one is good and has only good feedback. I've seen some have negative feedback and that they scamm..

Here's the issue with mixers: they don't work. There have been multiple studies in the past showing that through simple, automated analytics, you can still track 99%+ of the mixed inputs/outputs and tell where they ended up. Remember, BTC is pseudo-anonymous, not anonymous. All you're doing is adding in a new layer of obfuscation but anyone could break that at any time.
You definitely have a point there, but it's pretty stupid for someone to send 0.5BTC for example, and have the "clean" coins sent directly to one of his other wallets.

If you make use of a manual fee in combination with a certain delay, plus the fact that you can have that 0.5BTC sent into smaller fractions to the destination addresses, it will practically be impossible to trace them.

But yes, there is absolutely nothing that guarantees you that no one will be able to spot them. But it's giving people a safer feeling. Especially when they send the mixed coins to their cold wallets.


Title: Re: Which tumbler to use
Post by: ranlo on January 08, 2017, 01:49:50 AM
I need to use a mixer/tumbler. Which one is good and has only good feedback. I've seen some have negative feedback and that they scamm..

Here's the issue with mixers: they don't work. There have been multiple studies in the past showing that through simple, automated analytics, you can still track 99%+ of the mixed inputs/outputs and tell where they ended up. Remember, BTC is pseudo-anonymous, not anonymous. All you're doing is adding in a new layer of obfuscation but anyone could break that at any time.
You definitely have a point there, but it's pretty stupid for someone to send 0.5BTC for example, and have the "clean" coins sent directly to one of his other wallets.

If you make use of a manual fee in combination with a certain delay, plus the fact that you can have that 0.5BTC sent into smaller fractions to the destination addresses, it will practically be impossible to trace them.

But yes, there is absolutely nothing that guarantees you that no one will be able to spot them. But it's giving people a safer feeling. Especially when they send the mixed coins to their cold wallets.

There are always going to be ways to trace them. And the fundamentals of doing so are ridiculously easy due to how propagation works. I'm not saying it does NOTHING to obfuscate things, but those who are mixing are usually doing so for a reason. And mixing is not going to magically make whatever it is they're doing safe.