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Title: SporeStack: Launch VPS servers with Bitcoin, BCH, BSV, XMR Anonymous, API driven Post by: sega01 on January 12, 2017, 04:02:38 PM Servers last from 1-28 days, but can usually be topped up. Multiple regions available, multiple Linux images and iPXE. No registration required, no IPs logged.
Pretty easy to try: Launch on the website: https://sporestack.com/ Screenshot: https://go-beyond.org/decensor/asset/835efc50d660a83d5e38542b127c2f1f4486750284d6dfd3759898a3594a5f5c Or your console: Code: pip3 install sporestack Handy for development, quick VPNs, network test servers, or building out a whole infrastructure on microservices. Giving the servers fixed lifetimes lets you expect failure and short server life so that you develop around it. Also supports hidden hosting, launching a server that's only accessible through Tor (https://sporestack.com/news/#2019-02-27). More information at SporeStack.com (https://sporestack.com/), or the V3 onion service on Tor (http://spore64i5sofqlfz5gq2ju4msgzojjwifls7rok2cti624zyq3fcelad). In action: https://sporestack.com/static/sporestackv2-screenshot.png Pricing: (Does not apply to hidden, Tor-only servers) Cores Memory (GiB) Disk (GiB) Bandwidth (TiB) Approximate price per 28 days (USD) 1 1 25 1 9.00 1 2 50 2 18.00 1 3 60 3 27.00 2 2 60 3 27.00 3 1 60 3 27.00 2 4 80 4 36.00 4 8 160 5 72.00 6 16 320 6 144.00 8 32 640 7 288.01 12 48 960 8 432.00 16 64 1280 9 576.00 20 96 1920 10 864.01 24 128 2560 11 1152.00 32 192 3840 12 1728.00 Thanks! Title: Re: SporeStack: Launch disposable servers with Bitcoin Post by: eckmar on January 12, 2017, 08:49:33 PM Looking at your site it's interesting. But why you only sell servers for 1-28 days ? I don't understand if you are able to continue with same server after that time period (renew the contract after every 28 days for the same server) or new server is generated every time ?
Title: Re: SporeStack: Launch disposable servers with Bitcoin Post by: sega01 on January 12, 2017, 10:36:46 PM Looking at your site it's interesting. But why you only sell servers for 1-28 days ? I don't understand if you are able to continue with same server after that time period (renew the contract after every 28 days for the same server) or new server is generated every time ? 28 days is the max life of any one server that I offer, by design. If you want to have them for longer, just create another one near expiry time and switch over. Server failures are pretty inevitable so if you iron out an automated process to replace them every month it should be beneficial once you get past the annoying phase. Handling failure is a part of good infrastructure design. It also makes security patching a bit easier as you just replace the entire server. Title: Re: SporeStack: Launch disposable servers with Bitcoin Post by: sega01 on January 17, 2017, 10:25:12 PM Vultr's European and Asian regions have been added. Lots of small updates across the board, but I think the nodemeup's help page tells the most:
Code: usage: nodemeup [-h] [--osid OSID] [--dcid DCID] [--flavor FLAVOR] Title: Re: SporeStack: Launch disposable servers with Bitcoin Post by: Emerge on January 18, 2017, 03:59:46 PM I like the web apps you make. What do you do or have you done?
Are you interested in working with startups? Title: Re: SporeStack: Launch disposable servers with Bitcoin Post by: Josepino on January 18, 2017, 04:06:01 PM Thank you for your share. It's very useful for me
I will rent some vps for sporestack. Title: Re: SporeStack: Launch disposable servers with Bitcoin Post by: sega01 on January 18, 2017, 05:36:24 PM I like the web apps you make. What do you do or have you done? Are you interested in working with startups? Thank you! Before Answer Market, Coinfee, and SporeStack, I've worked at Matterport, ThousandEyes, and Rackspace. A long while back I developed two Linux distributions. I'm definitely more in the infrastructure/devops realm, but I am working more and more on my development skills. LinkedIn covers my work history pretty well: https://www.linkedin.com/in/teran-mckinney Matterport and ThousandEyes were startups. When I joined Matterport, I was the one of two infrastructure people on the current team. I like startups, but they can be hit or miss with direction. It really depends on the mission and the people, but I don't mind a bit of chaos and starting from the ground up. I can work quickly or work well, but I prefer biasing to working well and getting things done in a way that is sustainable for the long term. I also know that sometimes you need to work fast to rush something out the door, in a pinch. My preference is for half-time and remote, but I am open to most opportunities. Even if remote, I can travel to the office (if there is any, heh) from time to time. Especially for starting out. I do have a phone interview today and am looking into another opportunity, but nothing has been settled or decided yet. If you're interested, please send me an email (sega01@go-beyond.org). I can give you my phone number and we can talk more from there. I appreciate your interest! I hope that answers your question. I'm excited to talk to you if you are still interested. Quote Thank you for your share. It's very useful for me I will rent some vps for sporestack. Thank you! I'm glad to hear that. If you have a black text on white terminal you may have issues with the QR code. A reverse terminal seems to be the only one that works for that. I'm thinking about alternating QR colors to be sure one works. Not sure if there's a way I can probe the terminal for its color behavior... Title: Re: SporeStack: Launch disposable servers with Bitcoin Post by: babo on January 19, 2017, 11:22:34 AM really nice project
and commandline executables is opensource? can used under tor network? Title: Re: SporeStack: Launch disposable servers with Bitcoin Post by: sega01 on January 19, 2017, 08:14:03 PM really nice project and commandline executables is opensource? can used under tor network? Thank you! Yes to both of your questions. Still need to clean up the code more, but the client code and library is released into the public domain: https://github.com/sporestack/sporestack-python/blob/master/sporestack/nodemeup.py Just tested it with torsocks. Seems to work fine as Code: torsocks nodemeup Title: Re: SporeStack: Launch disposable servers with Bitcoin Post by: eckmar on January 19, 2017, 08:15:10 PM Looking at your site it's interesting. But why you only sell servers for 1-28 days ? I don't understand if you are able to continue with same server after that time period (renew the contract after every 28 days for the same server) or new server is generated every time ? 28 days is the max life of any one server that I offer, by design. If you want to have them for longer, just create another one near expiry time and switch over. Server failures are pretty inevitable so if you iron out an automated process to replace them every month it should be beneficial once you get past the annoying phase. Handling failure is a part of good infrastructure design. It also makes security patching a bit easier as you just replace the entire server. Yeah but think about someone wanting to launch their app with your service. That person will have to migrate files and database every month and if he have somewhat decent website (decent like got some cool features) it will for sure be pain in the ass Title: Re: SporeStack: Launch disposable servers with Bitcoin Post by: babo on January 19, 2017, 11:15:37 PM Thank you! Yes to both of your questions. Still need to clean up the code more, but the client code and library is released into the public domain: https://github.com/sporestack/sporestack-python/blob/master/sporestack/nodemeup.py Just tested it with torsocks. Seems to work fine as Code: torsocks nodemeup very nice ^_^ i love it thank you very nice project again Title: Re: SporeStack: Launch disposable servers with Bitcoin Post by: ranlo on January 20, 2017, 02:56:10 AM Looking at your site it's interesting. But why you only sell servers for 1-28 days ? I don't understand if you are able to continue with same server after that time period (renew the contract after every 28 days for the same server) or new server is generated every time ? 28 days is the max life of any one server that I offer, by design. If you want to have them for longer, just create another one near expiry time and switch over. Server failures are pretty inevitable so if you iron out an automated process to replace them every month it should be beneficial once you get past the annoying phase. Handling failure is a part of good infrastructure design. It also makes security patching a bit easier as you just replace the entire server. I 100% agree with this principle. I don't necessarily agree that having temp servers is a great thing, but keeping servers up (when accounting for DDoS, traffic spikes, updates, etc.) requires redundancy, and that would, by its nature, make this fine (automated process to spin up new servers as others go down). Title: Re: SporeStack: Launch disposable servers with Bitcoin Post by: sega01 on January 24, 2017, 12:42:04 AM Thank you all for your feedback!
SporeStack is now available over HTTPS: https://sporestack.com/ The client has changed from 'nodemeup' to 'sporestack'. 'sporestack spawn' is equivalent to 'nodemeup'. Changes demonstrated here: https://asciinema.org/a/100459 Title: Re: SporeStack: Launch disposable servers with Bitcoin Post by: babo on January 25, 2017, 01:43:19 PM great job
i'm follow this project and when i need disposable server i'll use it now i use a "buffer" vps, but is ugly way.. disposable is better Title: Re: SporeStack: Launch disposable servers with Bitcoin Post by: sega01 on February 16, 2017, 04:13:45 PM More updates to SporeStack. I've now moved http://go-beyond.org/ over to it.
You can see how I use it here: https://github.com/teran-mckinney/staticator I've also launched https://launch.sporestack.com/ since I last updated this thread. Title: Re: SporeStack: Launch disposable servers with Bitcoin Post by: babo on February 16, 2017, 07:16:52 PM I've also launched https://launch.sporestack.com/ since I last updated this thread. really cool service! ^_^ VPN! wow and Minecraft Server :D u can add more "game" server? like enemy territory, unreal, etc? Title: Re: SporeStack: Launch disposable servers with Bitcoin Post by: sega01 on February 23, 2017, 02:32:05 AM I've also launched https://launch.sporestack.com/ since I last updated this thread. really cool service! ^_^ VPN! wow and Minecraft Server :D u can add more "game" server? like enemy territory, unreal, etc? Definitely possible. If there's a Linux or FreeBSD daemon for the game, you can write a launch script to make it happen. You can see the current ones here and create a pull request to submit a new one: https://github.com/sporestack/node-profiles Title: Re: SporeStack: Launch disposable servers with Bitcoin Post by: babo on February 23, 2017, 08:35:40 AM nice, definitely absolute cool :)
i will add enemy territory and other free games Title: Re: SporeStack: Launch disposable servers with Bitcoin Post by: sega01 on February 27, 2017, 06:34:35 PM I added a Hidden Service for SporeStack: http://spore64zke3ofvbp.onion/
With the latest sporestack pip installable, you can launch servers using the Hidden Service. Code: sporestack --endpoint http://spore64zke3ofvbp.onion spawn Title: Re: SporeStack: Launch disposable servers with Bitcoin Post by: sega01 on March 02, 2017, 03:56:59 AM I've added iPXE support to SporeStack.
Example: Code: $ cat coreos Couple minutes later: Code: ssh core@(uuid returned).node.sporestack.com You'll need to upgrade to the latest sporestack pip: pip install sporestack --upgrade You can also do: Code: sporestack spawn --ipxe_chain_url http://boot.netboot.xyz Code: sporestack list Still kind of in progress, but it works from my testing. Title: Re: SporeStack: Launch VPS servers with Bitcoin. Anonymous, API driven Post by: sega01 on March 14, 2017, 04:23:27 AM I've added top up support to SporeStack, making it more useful for traditional VPS users.
https://sporestack.com/news#2017-03-13 It's pretty straight forward. Every server created has a UUID. You can see that UUID with Code: sporestack list Code: sporestack topup --days 28 --uuid (UUID) Title: Re: SporeStack: Launch VPS servers with Bitcoin. Anonymous, API driven Post by: cryptor0th on March 14, 2017, 04:27:34 AM How can one use this service as an RDP / VPS ?
I know it runs on Linux, but can I have a GUI / SSH mode? (noob here) Pretty interesting service. I am surprised you haven't had much media coverage yet. Regards Title: Re: SporeStack: Launch VPS servers with Bitcoin. Anonymous, API driven Post by: sega01 on April 01, 2017, 03:24:33 PM News post: Sporestack increases identity requirements (https://sporestack.com/news#2017-04-01)
Title: Re: SporeStack: Launch VPS servers with Bitcoin. Anonymous, API driven Post by: babo on April 03, 2017, 12:33:56 PM News post: Sporestack increases identity requirements (http://localhost:8082/news#2017-04-01) localhost? :D fix the url identity is required only if you extend duration? Title: Re: SporeStack: Launch VPS servers with Bitcoin. Anonymous, API driven Post by: sega01 on April 12, 2017, 12:56:27 AM News post: Sporestack increases identity requirements (http://localhost:8082/news#2017-04-01) localhost? :D fix the url identity is required only if you extend duration? Oops, good catch! I fixed it. https://sporestack.com/news#2017-04-01 Note the date ;) Title: Re: SporeStack: Launch VPS servers with Bitcoin. Anonymous, API driven Post by: sega01 on April 25, 2017, 04:03:35 PM Bump.
Title: Re: SporeStack: Launch VPS servers with Bitcoin. Anonymous, API driven Post by: sega01 on April 27, 2017, 04:40:50 PM I've made some tweaks so it's easier to have servers buy other servers.
I've rolled this out on go-beyond.org: http://go-beyond.org/post/skynet-0.0.1/ I now have SporeStack servers buying the next set of SporeStack servers before expiry. Title: Re: SporeStack: Launch VPS servers with Bitcoin. Anonymous, API driven Post by: sega01 on May 08, 2017, 01:17:14 AM We've dropped Satoshi prices by 25%: https://sporestack.com/news#2017-05-03
25% more servers for your Bitcoin :-). Title: Re: SporeStack: Launch VPS servers with Bitcoin. Anonymous, API driven Post by: sega01 on May 31, 2017, 06:34:37 PM SporeStack is now being used to enable autonomous computing. You can launch a tor relay, it will publish a Bitcoin address, and funds to the address will cause it to renew itself or even buy another, if funds are high enough.
http://go-beyond.org/post/autonomous-crowd-funded-tor-relays/ Title: Re: SporeStack: Launch VPS servers with Bitcoin. Anonymous, API driven Post by: sega01 on June 13, 2017, 03:57:59 AM I now have a script for deploying Debian 9 on SporeStack via iPXE if anyone is interested. Hoping that iPXE deployments can make multiple providers more possible in the future.
Title: Re: SporeStack: Launch VPS servers with Bitcoin. Anonymous, API driven Post by: sega01 on July 14, 2017, 03:54:05 AM Bump. Just a reminder that there's a hidden service you can use over Tor: http://spore64zke3ofvbp.onion/
Title: Re: SporeStack: Launch VPS servers with Bitcoin. Anonymous, API driven Post by: sega01 on July 31, 2017, 05:50:22 PM Another price drop to bring prices back in line with the current USD<->BTC prices. Hopefully I can automate this in the future.
https://sporestack.com/news#2017-07-28 Title: Re: SporeStack: Launch VPS servers with Bitcoin. Anonymous, API driven Post by: sega01 on August 22, 2017, 12:20:35 AM I've added a AUTO region feature so you can specify "AUTO", "AUTO-NA", or "AUTO-EU" as the region (--dcid in the sporestack client). A datacenter with capacity will be randomly selected and used. Can be a better option than just using one datacenter and hoping it never fills up, especially in the case of automation.
https://sporestack.com/news#2017-08-21 Title: Re: SporeStack: Launch VPS servers with Bitcoin. Anonymous, API driven Post by: btcton on August 22, 2017, 05:01:23 AM I really like the concept of a fully API/CLI-driven IaaS platform. This looks to function similar to platforms such as Heroku which allow you to build applications through the command line. My only concern with the way you have built it is the 28-day limit which others have asked about but I still don't understand why it is there as well as the prices for the VPS servers not being visible, or at the very least I could not find them. If I may ask, are these servers built on top of another platform, and if so which? There seem to be quite many different locations that I don't think you would have set up yourself to host the servers on which these VPSs are run. I would like to know about the reliability and uptime of these servers.
Title: Re: SporeStack: Launch VPS servers with Bitcoin. Anonymous, API driven Post by: sega01 on August 22, 2017, 04:12:17 PM I really like the concept of a fully API/CLI-driven IaaS platform. This looks to function similar to platforms such as Heroku which allow you to build applications through the command line. My only concern with the way you have built it is the 28-day limit which others have asked about but I still don't understand why it is there as well as the prices for the VPS servers not being visible, or at the very least I could not find them. If I may ask, are these servers built on top of another platform, and if so which? There seem to be quite many different locations that I don't think you would have set up yourself to host the servers on which these VPSs are run. I would like to know about the reliability and uptime of these servers. Thank you for your reply. I guess in that way it is like Heroku but this is a couple layers lower, providing just the infrastructure and nothing like a Python app abstraction layer. Of course you could build that on top of SporeStack. I wanted to start with servers as the base layer and build from there. The 28 day limit is intentional. I've designed it to be ephemeral by default, which is more of a modern practice and takes some getting used to. For the most part rather than upgrading the same server over and over, you'd just replace it with another. This has some advantages on my end as well. The easiest way to see the price is to just try and spawn a server and see how many Bitcoins it requests. https://launch.sporestack.com/ shows it a bit better, but masks the flavors from you. You can guess the cost by looking here: https://sporestack.com/node/options There's a base_satoshis_per_day. There's a random amount added onto that of 1-10,000 Satoshis that's used for identifying your payment. It's a very unusual system but you can see how it works here: https://github.com/teran-mckinney/bitcoinacceptor-python Yes, currently all of the servers are created on Vultr. They accept Bitcoin as well, although I think you have to provide a credit card. They are great to work with. SporeStack adds an anonymous layer and I tend to prefer my API/tooling on top of it. Using Vultr directly is cheaper. If you want a very traditional VPS and don't mind Vultr knowing who you are, they are a pretty good bet. That said, you can "topup" your servers with SporeStack. There's a topup command so you can topup past the 28 day mark. Now down the road that may fail for some reasons. Say I start hosting these myself and there's a critical patch I need to apply to the host, say some security vulnerability. As a host you have two options: Take everyone down unexpectedly, live migrate to another host (more on that later), or let all VMs expire from the machine. So in that case I would mark the host to not have new servers built there and to not allow renewals. Once the servers expire (at very worst, 28 days from then), then I can patch it and restart it. Or say the server has to be moved from one datacenter or another, the same applies. You are going to have some unexpected downtime with public clouds unless they employ a lot of behind the scenes live migration. Which is doable but tricky to pull off, especially without any incidents at all. Some people do manage it well and I've never been a fan of it. In my mind, too many moving parts and there are cases where it doesn't work at all, if the host is degraded enough. I would say the reliability of Vultr is about what I expect normally. Maybe a restart of a VM due to some host issue, once per 12 VM months? Maybe a bit more than that, just kind of a number I threw together. Occasionally there are boostrap issues where a VM does not boot at all the first time, maybe 1 in 80 or so, I'm not sure. In general, servers will always fail so it's best to make a completely redundant architecture. Say you get to 99.99% reliability per server, adding another makes it almost improbable that you'll be totally down. Whereas adding more nines gets to be quite expensive. In the future I may add more providers or try to host these myself. But in those cases the servers will only come up with iPXE -- different providers with stock images will just vary much too much and iPXE is probably the best way to make it more of a uniform platform. Here's an example using self-renewing: https://github.com/sporestack/launch.sporestack.com And my blog replaces itself every week: https://github.com/teran-mckinney/staticator/ I also have an example doing self-renewing and self-propagating: http://go-beyond.org/post/autonomous-crowd-funded-tor-relays/ Those examples are automated and work by sending Bitcoin to a new wallet that the servers use themselves. You an also watch for when the server is about to explore locally and run sporestack topup. I hope this answers your questions. Let me know if you are curious about anything else. Title: Re: SporeStack: Launch VPS servers with Bitcoin. Anonymous, API driven Post by: btcton on August 23, 2017, 01:49:44 AM I really like the concept of a fully API/CLI-driven IaaS platform. This looks to function similar to platforms such as Heroku which allow you to build applications through the command line. My only concern with the way you have built it is the 28-day limit which others have asked about but I still don't understand why it is there as well as the prices for the VPS servers not being visible, or at the very least I could not find them. If I may ask, are these servers built on top of another platform, and if so which? There seem to be quite many different locations that I don't think you would have set up yourself to host the servers on which these VPSs are run. I would like to know about the reliability and uptime of these servers. Thank you for your reply. I guess in that way it is like Heroku but this is a couple layers lower, providing just the infrastructure and nothing like a Python app abstraction layer. Of course you could build that on top of SporeStack. I wanted to start with servers as the base layer and build from there. The 28 day limit is intentional. I've designed it to be ephemeral by default, which is more of a modern practice and takes some getting used to. For the most part rather than upgrading the same server over and over, you'd just replace it with another. This has some advantages on my end as well. The easiest way to see the price is to just try and spawn a server and see how many Bitcoins it requests. https://launch.sporestack.com/ shows it a bit better, but masks the flavors from you. You can guess the cost by looking here: https://sporestack.com/node/options There's a base_satoshis_per_day. There's a random amount added onto that of 1-10,000 Satoshis that's used for identifying your payment. It's a very unusual system but you can see how it works here: https://github.com/teran-mckinney/bitcoinacceptor-python Yes, currently all of the servers are created on Vultr. They accept Bitcoin as well, although I think you have to provide a credit card. They are great to work with. SporeStack adds an anonymous layer and I tend to prefer my API/tooling on top of it. Using Vultr directly is cheaper. If you want a very traditional VPS and don't mind Vultr knowing who you are, they are a pretty good bet. That said, you can "topup" your servers with SporeStack. There's a topup command so you can topup past the 28 day mark. Now down the road that may fail for some reasons. Say I start hosting these myself and there's a critical patch I need to apply to the host, say some security vulnerability. As a host you have two options: Take everyone down unexpectedly, live migrate to another host (more on that later), or let all VMs expire from the machine. So in that case I would mark the host to not have new servers built there and to not allow renewals. Once the servers expire (at very worst, 28 days from then), then I can patch it and restart it. Or say the server has to be moved from one datacenter or another, the same applies. You are going to have some unexpected downtime with public clouds unless they employ a lot of behind the scenes live migration. Which is doable but tricky to pull off, especially without any incidents at all. Some people do manage it well and I've never been a fan of it. In my mind, too many moving parts and there are cases where it doesn't work at all, if the host is degraded enough. I would say the reliability of Vultr is about what I expect normally. Maybe a restart of a VM due to some host issue, once per 12 VM months? Maybe a bit more than that, just kind of a number I threw together. Occasionally there are boostrap issues where a VM does not boot at all the first time, maybe 1 in 80 or so, I'm not sure. In general, servers will always fail so it's best to make a completely redundant architecture. Say you get to 99.99% reliability per server, adding another makes it almost improbable that you'll be totally down. Whereas adding more nines gets to be quite expensive. In the future I may add more providers or try to host these myself. But in those cases the servers will only come up with iPXE -- different providers with stock images will just vary much too much and iPXE is probably the best way to make it more of a uniform platform. Here's an example using self-renewing: https://github.com/sporestack/launch.sporestack.com And my blog replaces itself every week: https://github.com/teran-mckinney/staticator/ I also have an example doing self-renewing and self-propagating: http://go-beyond.org/post/autonomous-crowd-funded-tor-relays/ Those examples are automated and work by sending Bitcoin to a new wallet that the servers use themselves. You an also watch for when the server is about to explore locally and run sporestack topup. I hope this answers your questions. Let me know if you are curious about anything else. Ah, I see. So it is more for the redundancy that the 28 days limit is implemented? Does that mean that topping up can be done *up to* the 28 days since the original creation date or the time is reset so that the VPS stops 28 days after the top-up date? Furthermore, I see you manually update bitcoin prices to follow their price in relation with fiat. What fixed USD prices are you trying to follow, to compare with Vultr's stock prices? I do have a Vultr account but I do want to try out SporeStack because of how much simpler the command line looks to scale and automate my server applications. Looking forward to trying this out. Title: Re: SporeStack: Launch VPS servers with Bitcoin. Anonymous, API driven Post by: sega01 on August 23, 2017, 11:35:39 PM Ah, I see. So it is more for the redundancy that the 28 days limit is implemented? Does that mean that topping up can be done *up to* the 28 days since the original creation date or the time is reset so that the VPS stops 28 days after the top-up date? Furthermore, I see you manually update bitcoin prices to follow their price in relation with fiat. What fixed USD prices are you trying to follow, to compare with Vultr's stock prices? I do have a Vultr account but I do want to try out SporeStack because of how much simpler the command line looks to scale and automate my server applications. Looking forward to trying this out. Eh, kind of for redundancy. It's a long discussion for why I use ephemeral servers, but there's so many ways servers can fail past the hardware. You may erase something accidentally, it may be hacked, you may upgrade it and something may break. Which is why I make sure I can recreate servers without having any loss in functionality, at least for the most part. So rather than configure a server by hand I have configuration management do it, either shell scripts or Saltstack. And ideally you when you create a new server you update it at the same time. If there are failures you can still rely on the current server until you address whatever issues there are. You can topup past the 28 day mark. There's actually kind of a bug that lets you topup indefinitely, but only in 28 day intervals. So I can spin up a server today with a 28 day lifetime and buy 28 day topups one after the other until my money runs out. With Bitcoin in general top up and prepay works better than postpay since you can't force someone to pay from an address, it has to be done before hand. I would still recommend automating topup if you choose to use it, so you don't buy a year's worth of hosting and then forget what to do next year (it seems silly but it happens, it's like SSL certificate renewal that way). I agree, I need to add in price pinning to USD. That'll be one of the next features that come along. I think I've been trying for a 100% margin, maybe a little less. But Vultr's 1GiB server is only $5 a month so that's $10 a month which I think is pretty reasonable. However the Bitcoin price keeps going up so I'm probably well over that now, and of course there are TX fees which are definitely more expensive paying per server than rather credit based for the account. I have surprisingly few complaints about cost and no time soon will I try to be the cheapest provider, only the most automated. It really is a niche hosting service. There's a lot of unusual things you can do like launch servers that end up completely autonomous and self-sustaining. I did this with Tor relays: http://go-beyond.org/post/autonomous-crowd-funded-tor-relays/ One of the other cool next things you could do is have the servers try to mine cryptocurrencies and convert to Bitcoin to keep themselves alive longer. It may save you 10, 20, 30% in the long run depending on what you are mining. Thanks for trying out SporeStack! Let me know if you have any more questions. Title: Re: SporeStack: Launch VPS servers with Bitcoin. Anonymous, API driven Post by: sega01 on September 13, 2017, 05:24:35 PM Just a bump.
Title: Re: SporeStack: Launch VPS servers with Bitcoin. Anonymous, API driven Post by: sega01 on October 05, 2017, 06:48:58 PM Another bump.
Title: Re: SporeStack: Launch VPS servers with Bitcoin. Anonymous, API driven Post by: sega01 on November 04, 2017, 02:31:39 PM Finally, prices are now automatically pinned to the dollar: https://sporestack.com/news#2017-11-03
This means the cost should be a lot more reasonable even when Bitcoin goes up some incredible amount in a single month. Unfortunately, sending transactions under 10,000 Satoshis can be tricky so there is a "price floor" there. You'll see much better rates at 7-28 days than 1-2 days. Not to mention TX fees as well. -Teran Title: Re: SporeStack: Launch VPS servers with Bitcoin. Anonymous, API driven Post by: Enre on November 05, 2017, 04:48:40 AM You guys should have a more permanent option.
I for one would love to start a vm on Vultr but due to their deanonymizing, I would like some other options.. Title: Re: SporeStack: Launch VPS servers with Bitcoin. Anonymous, API driven Post by: sega01 on December 13, 2017, 04:39:41 AM SporeStack now accepts Bitcoin Cash: https://sporestack.com/news#2017-12-12
Migrating for Python 3 for the SporeStack library/CLI is recommended but not mandatory at this time. Title: Re: SporeStack: Launch VPS servers with Bitcoin. Anonymous, API driven Post by: Deathwing on December 13, 2017, 04:54:23 AM SporeStack now accepts Bitcoin Cash: https://sporestack.com/news#2017-12-12 Migrating for Python 3 for the SporeStack library/CLI is recommended but not mandatory at this time. I know Shapeshift supports but I do not know if they have an API you can integrate to, but wouldn't it be good to accept Ethereum as well? Has good prices and fast network confirmations. You can (as I mentioned, if possible) integrate through Shapeshift so you can get paid in BTC/BCH anyway. Title: Re: SporeStack: Launch VPS servers with Bitcoin. Anonymous, API driven Post by: sega01 on December 13, 2017, 05:09:36 AM SporeStack now accepts Bitcoin Cash: https://sporestack.com/news#2017-12-12 Migrating for Python 3 for the SporeStack library/CLI is recommended but not mandatory at this time. I know Shapeshift supports but I do not know if they have an API you can integrate to, but wouldn't it be good to accept Ethereum as well? Has good prices and fast network confirmations. You can (as I mentioned, if possible) integrate through Shapeshift so you can get paid in BTC/BCH anyway. It is definitely possible. I had Dash or Monero as the next one on my roadmap, but Ethereum is another option. I'll look into ShapeShift's API more and see if it can work for this. Bitcoin Cash was the most natural next coin to add. Now that I'm supporting two currencies, others should be much easier down the road. I think ShapeShift would have to wait for at least one confirmation so it'd be quite a bit slower. It'd be much easier to work with if I can make a SporeStack payment token or internal credit system of some kind. Thanks for replying! Title: PSA: Pushing Btrash will lose you customers. Post by: nullius on March 29, 2018, 04:11:26 PM SporeStack now accepts Bitcoin Cash: https://sporestack.com/news#2017-12-12 Quote from: https://sporestack.com/news#2017-12-12 SporeStack accepts (and prefers) Bitcoin Cash 2017-12-12 We highly recommend switching over to Bitcoin Cash as soon as possible for SporeStack use. Well, this is unfortunate. I’ve quietly had my eye on Sporestack for over a year, with an eye toward future projects. As an all-Tor, all-the-time ghost in the.nym.zone with no means of payment other than Bitcoin, it seemed well suited to me. But I’m prudent in saving my bits; and I did not have an urgent need for a VPS. Thus, I simply checked in every few months to see the latest developments—and now, when I have a potential immediate need for service. FYI, pushing the agenda of Bitcoin distorters and their kakocracy (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2940686.msg31084730#msg31084730) will exclude Bitcoin zealots (http://bitcult.faith/) as your potential customers. Case in point: Me. I’d say good-bye at this point, but I am curious: If fees were the problem, as stated on the Sporestack website, then why didn’t you add Lightning Network support? LN mainnet became active soon after you started “highly [recommending]” fake-Bitcoin. Come to think of it, I may soon need some means to anonymously set up a Lightning node in the cloud. I’m also curious as to whether your recommendation still holds when with Segwit addresses, for almost two months now, I’ve been paying fees sometimes as low as 1 sat/B (!), never higher than 5 sat/B. Title: Lightning would work for Sporestack! Post by: nullius on April 24, 2018, 07:58:35 PM Hello, Teran,
Thanks for the thoughtful reply. It’s rare to see such discussion. I apologize for the delayed response. Although I don’t know how Sporestack works internally, Lightning is actually ideal for your business model. Your concern isn’t too clear, but I infer you think there is some need of per-customer accounting state. If so, no, this is not the case. It is not necessary to have a payment channel open with each customer. You simply present customers with single-use Lightning payment requests which can encode much useful information, including the amount and the request expiration time. Payment requests are designed to be embedded in QR codes, though you need a bigger QR code area than you do for a Bitcoin address. This can be used by any customer who can find a route to your node (rather like the Internet itself). Payments are source-routed; and there has been extensive work on onion-routing (exactly in the Tor sense). Lightning overall keeps less state than on-chain transactions, insofar as the only global and/or permanently immutable state is in channel open/close transactions on the blockchain; information on individual payments is local and, if desired, somewhat ephemeral. Also, you never really know where a payment is coming from, which should suit you fine. Otherwise stated, Lightning will indeed support this business model: But the bread and butter of SporeStack is anyong being able to pick up a Bitcoin or Bitcoin Cash mobile wallet, scan a QR code, and get a server. Moving money respectively onto or off of your Lightning channels to fund a channel or “cash out” onto the blockchain is conceptually not too different than moving money between hot and cold wallets. If you already run a Core node, clightning will work with that, too. I may have more to say on these matters. I do like your business model. Yet to start with, I simply wanted to clarify about Lightning Network. Title: Re: SporeStack: Launch VPS servers with Bitcoin. Anonymous, API driven Post by: babo on August 24, 2018, 09:05:55 AM great work dude
i follow you from start and your service is one of the best i like too zeit/now.sh but your service is similar :) Title: Re: SporeStack: Launch VPS servers with Bitcoin. Anonymous, API driven Post by: sega01 on March 01, 2019, 08:48:32 PM I'd like to announce SporeStack's new hidden hosting. You can launch a server over Tor that only communicates through Tor and is accessed through a Hidden Service.
More details here: https://sporestack.com/news/#2019-02-27 Or on our hidden service: http://spore64i5sofqlfz5gq2ju4msgzojjwifls7rok2cti624zyq3fcelad.onion/news/#2019-02-27 Also, V1 has been removed replaced with V2. Usage is quite different. Code: $ ssh-keygen # If you don't have an SSH key already. Title: Re: SporeStack: Launch VPS servers with Bitcoin. Anonymous, API driven Post by: sega01 on April 11, 2019, 01:05:34 AM Bump.
Title: Re: SporeStack: Launch VPS servers with Bitcoin. Anonymous, API driven Post by: sega01 on April 19, 2019, 02:54:00 AM Bitcoin SV now supported: https://sporestack.com/news/#2019-04-19
This is in addition to Bitcoin and Bitcoin Cash. Title: Re: SporeStack: Launch VPS servers with Bitcoin. Anonymous, API driven Post by: sega01 on April 29, 2019, 02:10:20 PM Bump.
Title: Re: SporeStack: Launch VPS servers with Bitcoin, BCH, BSV. Anonymous, API driven Post by: sega01 on May 06, 2019, 04:29:22 PM Title: Re: SporeStack: Launch VPS servers with Bitcoin, BCH, BSV. Anonymous, API driven Post by: sega01 on May 08, 2019, 10:23:10 PM Just launched a web launcher and a very minimal JS library. It's right on the front page: https://sporestack.com/
Please let me know what you think! Title: Re: SporeStack: Launch VPS servers with Bitcoin, BCH, BSV. Anonymous, API driven Post by: DavidMott on May 10, 2019, 10:52:21 AM This looks very useful. I'd certainly consider this next time i need a VPS again.
Title: Re: SporeStack: Launch VPS servers with Bitcoin, BCH, BSV. Anonymous, API driven Post by: sega01 on May 16, 2019, 09:10:30 PM This looks very useful. I'd certainly consider this next time i need a VPS again. Thank you! Just added a pricing table on the front page: https://sporestack.com Pricing (Does not apply to hidden, Tor-only servers) Cores Memory (GiB) Disk (GiB) Bandwidth (TiB) Approximate price per 28 days (USD) 1 1 25 1 9.00 1 2 50 2 18.00 1 3 60 3 27.00 2 2 60 3 27.00 3 1 60 3 27.00 2 4 80 4 36.00 4 8 160 5 72.00 6 16 320 6 144.00 8 32 640 7 288.01 12 48 960 8 432.00 16 64 1280 9 576.00 20 96 1920 10 864.01 24 128 2560 11 1152.00 32 192 3840 12 1728.00 Title: Re: SporeStack: Launch VPS servers with Bitcoin, BCH, BSV. Anonymous, API driven Post by: sega01 on May 20, 2019, 06:52:23 PM I've added region selection to the front page: https://sporestack.com/
If you select the Digital Ocean host, you can pick a region to launch your server in. Title: Re: SporeStack: Launch VPS servers with Bitcoin, BCH, BSV. Anonymous, API driven Post by: sega01 on May 21, 2019, 03:05:56 AM I would like to offer $30 worth of BTC, BCH, or BSV for up to five people to review SporeStack.
I am looking for impartial reviewers who will be honest and give me useful feedback and reviews for others to know about SporeStack, here in this thread (or new threads, if applicable). Of the $30 worth, I would like $10 to be spent on the platform and $20 to be kept for your time. No word minimums or anything like that, although screenshots would be nice. Looking for people who have some reputation on Bitcoin Talk, ideally an existing review or two they can reference, who know at least the basics of using Linux, and have used VPS hosts before. Please reply here or in PM if you are interested. Thank you for your time. Title: Re: SporeStack: Launch VPS servers with Bitcoin, BCH, BSV. Anonymous, API driven Post by: servsec on May 26, 2019, 05:25:31 AM Servers last from 1-28 days, but can usually be topped up. Multiple regions available, multiple Linux images and iPXE. No registration required, no IPs logged. Pretty easy to try: Launch on the website: https://sporestack.com/ Or your console: Code: pip3 install sporestack Handy for development, quick VPNs, network test servers, or building out a whole infrastructure on microservices. Giving the servers fixed lifetimes lets you expect failure and short server life so that you develop around it. Also supports hidden hosting, launching a server that's only accessible through Tor (https://sporestack.com/news/#2019-02-27). More information at SporeStack.com (https://sporestack.com/), or the V3 onion service on Tor (http://spore64i5sofqlfz5gq2ju4msgzojjwifls7rok2cti624zyq3fcelad). In action: https://sporestack.com/static/sporestackv2-screenshot.png Pricing: (Does not apply to hidden, Tor-only servers) Cores Memory (GiB) Disk (GiB) Bandwidth (TiB) Approximate price per 28 days (USD) 1 1 25 1 9.00 1 2 50 2 18.00 1 3 60 3 27.00 2 2 60 3 27.00 3 1 60 3 27.00 2 4 80 4 36.00 4 8 160 5 72.00 6 16 320 6 144.00 8 32 640 7 288.01 12 48 960 8 432.00 16 64 1280 9 576.00 20 96 1920 10 864.01 24 128 2560 11 1152.00 32 192 3840 12 1728.00 Thanks! These servers are expensive and not anonymous as says here: https://sporestack.com/news/#2017-04-01 Stop the fake advertising —— Now, spawn usage will be slightly different. sporestack spawn --days 28 --full_name 'Satoshi Nakamoto' --ssn 524-01-0711 --phone 210-555-1337 --cc '4929 7089 0341 6566' --dob 1990-01-01 --photo_id ./drivers_license.jpg Title: Re: SporeStack: Launch VPS servers with Bitcoin, BCH, BSV. Anonymous, API driven Post by: sega01 on May 26, 2019, 04:39:21 PM These servers are expensive and not anonymous as says here: https://sporestack.com/news/#2017-04-01 Stop the fake advertising —— Now, spawn usage will be slightly different. sporestack spawn --days 28 --full_name 'Satoshi Nakamoto' --ssn 524-01-0711 --phone 210-555-1337 --cc '4929 7089 0341 6566' --dob 1990-01-01 --photo_id ./drivers_license.jpg It's fair if you think the servers are too expensive. There is a notable account over signing up at Vultr (who takes Bitcoin) and getting servers from there. For many, that is the best way to go. About your claims of not being anonymous, I think you didn't notice that the post was made on April Fools two years ago, and says "(April Fools!)" at the bottom. Title: Re: SporeStack: Launch VPS servers with Bitcoin, BCH, BSV. Anonymous, API driven Post by: babo on May 26, 2019, 05:29:57 PM These servers are expensive and not anonymous as says here: https://sporestack.com/news/#2017-04-01 Stop the fake advertising —— Now, spawn usage will be slightly different. sporestack spawn --days 28 --full_name 'Satoshi Nakamoto' --ssn 524-01-0711 --phone 210-555-1337 --cc '4929 7089 0341 6566' --dob 1990-01-01 --photo_id ./drivers_license.jpg What you say may be true (I did not investigate), but the idea and implementation is nice. I like it very much as a project! obviously for anonymous uses, I would never use it. I'm paranoic. Title: Re: SporeStack: Launch VPS servers with Bitcoin, BCH, BSV. Anonymous, API driven Post by: sega01 on June 04, 2019, 04:34:43 AM Bump.
Title: Re: SporeStack: Launch VPS servers with Bitcoin, BCH, BSV. Anonymous, API driven Post by: sega01 on June 12, 2019, 05:13:37 PM Bump!
Title: Re: SporeStack: Launch VPS servers with Bitcoin, BCH, BSV. Anonymous, API driven Post by: sega01 on June 18, 2019, 07:18:30 PM Here's a proof of concept for buying servers with Money Button (https://bitcoinvps.github.io/).
Would be really easy to set this up as an affiliate to take your own cut. Title: Re: SporeStack: Launch VPS servers with Bitcoin, BCH, BSV. Anonymous, API driven Post by: babo on June 19, 2019, 07:30:03 AM Here's a proof of concept for buying servers with Money Button (https://bitcoinvps.github.io/). Would be really easy to set this up as an affiliate to take your own cut. good job dude, i hope you can implement monero/dash/zcash or other privacy focus coin i've read your blog, interesting as well (and your projects are interesting) Title: Re: SporeStack: Launch VPS servers with Bitcoin, BCH, BSV. Anonymous, API driven Post by: sega01 on June 21, 2019, 04:24:00 PM Thank you! I appreciate it. I would like to add Monero next. The Bitcoin-based ones were fairly easy as I have similar libraries for all of them Monero. Will be a little more involved.
I'm also a fan of Dash. I should get better automated testing in place to be sure the currencies I have up are working as expected. Don't want to have the option to pay and have it break on someone when they go to use it. Title: Re: SporeStack: Launch VPS servers with Bitcoin, BCH, BSV. Anonymous, API driven Post by: babo on June 22, 2019, 08:09:21 AM Thank you! I appreciate it. I would like to add Monero next. The Bitcoin-based ones were fairly easy as I have similar libraries for all of them Monero. Will be a little more involved. I'm also a fan of Dash. I should get better automated testing in place to be sure the currencies I have up are working as expected. Don't want to have the option to pay and have it break on someone when they go to use it. dash is good too :) in my humble opinion you can choice: or Monero (better) or Dash or Zcash or Grin is same in my opinion Title: Re: SporeStack: Launch VPS servers with Bitcoin, BCH, BSV. Anonymous, API driven Post by: sega01 on June 30, 2019, 02:43:10 AM Bump. Happy Saturday!
Title: Re: SporeStack: Launch VPS servers with Bitcoin, BCH, BSV. Anonymous, API driven Post by: sega01 on July 08, 2019, 12:26:27 AM I've updated the web launcher (https://sporestack.com) quite a bit. Most recently was an option to attach a key by the file as opposed to having to copy/paste (but, you're still given the option to copy/paste if you prefer).
The latest change was a bit of a retheme and I added sliders in addition to the number inputs for days to live, cores, memory, and disk. I hope this makes it a bit more straight forward. Before: https://go-beyond.org/decensor/asset/b89a2e53acad87e04373caf93173b8827d1099df807e9d7886e7106444659ea8 After: https://go-beyond.org/decensor/asset/835efc50d660a83d5e38542b127c2f1f4486750284d6dfd3759898a3594a5f5c So feel free to give it a try (https://sporestack.com). If you use Bitcoin SV and Money Button, there's also a url=https://bitcoinvps.github.io]launcher for that[/url]. Further, the Money Button launcher would be very easy to duplicate and take your own affiliate cut. Title: Re: SporeStack: Launch VPS servers with Bitcoin, BCH, BSV. Anonymous, API driven Post by: sega01 on July 15, 2019, 08:41:47 PM Bump.
Title: Re: SporeStack: Launch VPS servers with Bitcoin, BCH, BSV. Anonymous, API driven Post by: sega01 on July 22, 2019, 08:18:07 PM Bump! Added FreeBSD images.
Title: Re: SporeStack: Launch VPS servers with Bitcoin, BCH, BSV. Anonymous, API driven Post by: sega01 on July 29, 2019, 11:07:38 PM Bump. Lots of improvements on the web launcher (https://sporestack.com).
Title: Re: SporeStack: Launch VPS servers with Bitcoin, BCH, BSV. Anonymous, API driven Post by: sega01 on August 06, 2019, 03:59:19 AM Bump.
Title: Re: SporeStack: Launch VPS servers with Bitcoin, BCH, BSV. Anonymous, API driven Post by: sega01 on August 12, 2019, 07:05:34 PM You can now launch clearnet servers entirely over Tor, using the Tor web launcher (http://spore64i5sofqlfz5gq2ju4msgzojjwifls7rok2cti624zyq3fcelad.onion).
The latest sporestack-python will automatically use your local Tor SOCKS proxy (127.0.0.1:9050) if you use Code: --api_endpoint http://spore64i5sofqlfz5gq2ju4msgzojjwifls7rok2cti624zyq3fcelad.onion Title: Re: SporeStack: Launch VPS servers with Bitcoin, BCH, BSV. Anonymous, API driven Post by: sega01 on August 20, 2019, 03:42:23 PM Bump!
Title: Re: SporeStack: Launch VPS servers with Bitcoin, BCH, BSV. Anonymous, API driven Post by: sega01 on August 26, 2019, 03:58:10 PM Bump. (https://sporestack.com/)
Title: Re: SporeStack: Launch VPS servers with Bitcoin, BCH, BSV. Anonymous, API driven Post by: sega01 on September 02, 2019, 06:13:22 PM Debian 10 is now supported with Hidden Hosting (https://sporestack.com/news/#2019-08-14).
https://sporestack.com/ (https://sporestack.com/) - http://spore64i5sofqlfz5gq2ju4msgzojjwifls7rok2cti624zyq3fcelad.onion/ (http://spore64i5sofqlfz5gq2ju4msgzojjwifls7rok2cti624zyq3fcelad.onion/) Title: Re: SporeStack: Launch VPS servers with Bitcoin, BCH, BSV. Anonymous, API driven Post by: sega01 on September 12, 2019, 08:04:53 PM Bump! No new changes this week, I'm supposed to be on vacation :).
https://sporestack.com/ - http://spore64i5sofqlfz5gq2ju4msgzojjwifls7rok2cti624zyq3fcelad.onion/ Title: Re: SporeStack: Launch VPS servers with Bitcoin, BCH, BSV. Anonymous, API driven Post by: sega01 on September 28, 2019, 03:35:11 PM Monero support is now live! You can pay with Bitcoin, Bitcoin Cash, Bitcoin SV, or Monero.
https://sporestack.com/ - http://spore64i5sofqlfz5gq2ju4msgzojjwifls7rok2cti624zyq3fcelad.onion/ Title: Re: SporeStack: Launch VPS servers with Bitcoin, BCH, BSV, XMR Anonymous, API driven Post by: sega01 on November 19, 2019, 02:58:48 AM Wanted to let you all know that Bitcoin Cash support is broken at the moment (https://sporestack.com/news/#2019-11-18).
Title: Re: SporeStack: Launch VPS servers with Bitcoin, BCH, BSV, XMR Anonymous, API driven Post by: sega01 on November 30, 2019, 06:30:55 AM Added Ubuntu 16.04 and 18.04 support to Tor Hidden Hosting.
Title: Re: SporeStack: Launch VPS servers with Bitcoin, BCH, BSV, XMR Anonymous, API driven Post by: sega01 on December 02, 2019, 09:57:04 PM Settlement tokens are back. If you want to prepay and have a token that lets you build/topup servers from a balance, just let me know. This way you don't have to make a transaction per server if you don't want to.
This is the codebase if you are curious (https://github.com/sporestack/settlers). Title: Re: SporeStack: Launch VPS servers with Bitcoin, BCH, BSV, XMR Anonymous, API driven Post by: sega01 on December 04, 2019, 09:21:36 PM Lots of changes to the web launcher (https://sporestack.com). Would appreciate any feedback you may have.
Title: Re: SporeStack: Launch VPS servers with Bitcoin, BCH, BSV, XMR Anonymous, API driven Post by: Ghild on June 25, 2020, 10:48:50 AM Is it suitable for opening a tor-network on this?
Title: Re: SporeStack: Launch VPS servers with Bitcoin, BCH, BSV, XMR Anonymous, API driven Post by: Magnardiann on June 29, 2020, 03:10:05 PM Is it suitable for opening a tor-network on this? I don't understand your question. Could you rephrase it? I think he wants to know whether its possible to use your servers under tor network. But you've already answered that question on the first page. |
