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i was talking to someone about bitcoin the other day, introducing him to bitcoin and also talking about what trading is and where he can do it.

then when i was talking about risks of keeping his bitcoin on exchange wallet and how many of them were hacked i was thinking that gambling sites are similar to an exchange, they are handling bitcoin (it may not be as large as an exchange but it is still big) and they have hot wallets.

so have any of them been hacked as exchanges were hacked?

if you are mentioning any here please add bitcoin price of that time or give a date so we can see how much money it was lost.

There was some news in the past that certain investors losses their money in gambling sites because it was hack, so it is true that gambling sites can be hack. If big exchanges can be hack and they have more advance security, how much more an online gambling sites?

Casinos or online gambling sites as far as I know has their own software of keeping their sites secure, saying that, they sure has an advanced technology on securing their own sites. Try to search google if there are hacked casinos sites, there are many, and there are still trying to do so thats why they are really trying their hard making their sites secured. But as far as I know, hacking a casino or a gambling site happened a while ago and no news of new sites being hacked, trust them.

This is always an on going process in btc casino. Hackers try to hack the casino while the owners try to up the security so the hacker cant hack it. Even popular exchange or btc casino also fail victim to these attacks so there is no perm status as unhackable. Betking and primedice are great example of such.

Even big exchanges like bitfinex has been hacked even though they have lot of security, i hear that some people complaining about their hacking money in casino sites. But i hear that they din't lost much money in their when it was hacked.

The title is kinda misleading you're asking a question where has any casino have been hacked but in your post you mention about exchanges being hacked too. I can mention some casinos and exchange that were hacked like shapeshift.io(reference (http://www.coindesk.com/digital-currency-exchange-shapeshift-says-lost-230k-3-separate-hacks/)), primedice.com (reference (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=843892.0)). The amount of money lost are already mentioned in the references provided.

Magicdice was literally hacked by one of its developers for his gambling benefits (one of the dev was gambling there with alt account by knowing the upcoming seeds). Fortunately he was caught just before situation getting worst like not affecting other gamblers who were holding funds within them.

Here is the reference : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1167828.msg13129468#msg13129468

In online casino i know there suffering some attacks sometimes but in real life casino i don't know if they can hack or tricked them by using cheat or doubl card etc like on movies or some magical trick that they can use inside the casino, But if online casino will hack maybe its all fault by the owner because of its codes.

From what I know, Anything with less security are easily hacked. Exchange sites & gambling sites that were poorly coded has a lot of flaws and backdoors that get them hacked. But The user can take security into his/her own hands by adding 2FA security (If the website supports it) and using a strong password is also recommended.

If I'm not wrong most of the gambling sites will save all their money in the cold wallet and only keep some money in a hot wallet to handle instant withdrawal facilities. If most of the coins are saved in cold wallets which are not disclosed to the public then quite difficult to hack the accounts. But is exposed to the public then it is riskier.

Yes basically keeping coins from a gambling site is no different when storing on any bitcoin exchanges. Possibility of hack have high chance since it's easy to say for owners that their security have been breached like the mostly reason/s we are seeing when a certain bitcoin exchange have been down.

That's why there's a gambling site here that gained so much users since no wallet is involved but rather instant payout once they win. The only risk is , if they will pay right after. I will not mentioned site to avoid advertisement.

Right haven't seen specifically what bitcoin gambling site turned to a fraud right now based on my own gambling experience but I have of heard it many times while lurking on this forum.

The security of casino is pretty strong I never heard any of casino sites being hacked yet, and actually bitcoin wallet protection for casino is very strong, most of the time people got hacked because of their own mistake and casino is not the main target of hacker, because there is big chance most of people not keep their coin in the casino wallet

Yeah Gambling sites are similar to wallet exchanges anything is risky we don't know if that exchanges will hacked .As they said No System is Safe i believe on that anything will be possible but as gambling they are the most prone to attacks because it is more on several people who monitors on the site and the bitcoins is live on the site unlike as i think That wallet exchanges is more secure .So dont put all your eggs in one exchanges and in one wallet scattered your bitcoins.Its the better way.

To find out how secure the casinos are, you just have to go to the nearest casino, I see the probability of hacking as percantage 0.

Here people are talking about online casinos, not the real casinos. In online casinos many expert hackers are around, they can do any kind of hacking. Many big companies are spending a lot of money for security purpose but small casinos I don't think they will spend so much money security. It is always a risk so should be careful.

This is what on my mind too on which even those exchanges do have high security in terms on the funds on their site but still they are prone on hacks or losing funds which is really possible on casinos too but for now I don't know any casinos which have been hacked before and maybe there are really casinos that is being hacked that ive have been missed to hear or saw.

This was not a hack but a mistake, in the just-dice site back in 2013 which was a competitor to satoshidice (still it was early day in gambling and not many competitors)

Anyway, this dude got like 1300 BTC stolen from the site...

http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-gambler-cheats-satoshidice-competitor-just-dice-out-of-1300-btc/

But turns out those weren't real BTCs.

I dont remember any other big problems in casinos.

these days hacking is not just about security because many of the hacks that happened to the exchanges were either inside jobs, than an employee of the exchange did rob them or it was a sham, which means there was no hack ever, and the exchange owner scammed everyone and ran away with their money.

The biggest hacks of all time that happen in both exchanges and casinos are nothing but inside jobs. Remember MtGox, Cryptsy, Mintpal, Bitfinex... list goes on all day. All of those were inside jobs where people inside the system had access to it. Most hacks happen because of that, not because someone finds out an exploit.

i dont think this happen before. well we all know that security is just an illusion but then again when it comes on money i dont think they're restoring their money on their site. i think theres a wallet of bitcoins who holds their funds so i dont think there some issue regarding this. so i think theres no casino have been hacked and loosed a lot of money.

Hackers try to get into every website these days. I run a betting tips site, which is only a little over a month old and already hackers tried to get into it over 8k times. Lucky, it's pretty easy to set up security for a basic website but sites that handle a lot of money have more advanced hackers going after them, so I am sure they spend a lot of money trying to keep up with the level of security they need to protect their assets. As online casinos and exchanges being hacked, there are many that had to learn their lesson the hard way to increase security to keep things safe from hackers. In a perfect world, programmers would be using their skills to advance our tech, not for crimes. But we don't live in a perfect world.

Never heard of it  ! I can consider that casino far more secure than dice site ( as I know PrimeDice - HP accident )
No matter how hard they try , they can't hack it


Hacker are more clever than casino owner , I'm wonder why not they build their own casino with their skill

i do not hear any of casino has been hacked so far but i don't know for the real, and i am sure that the casino will be secure their sites and they don't want to get hacked and maybe they will rented some security advisor to secure their sites.

Hackers make money by stealing. You really want one to own an online casino?

For casinos in real world there's no way for you to hacked them. Only seen it in movies. But thru online there are some casino sites that got closed because the bankrolls has been hacked I think that was last year. Everything is possible in net world so that's why hackers take advantage of it.

Honestly I never trust if casino has made announcement they got hack by hack and i've big question,how hackers can attacking an online casino?

Have you ever heard of a virus in ios? no because apple pays their developers and coders enough and they never reveal or leak anything related to ios source code, people end up getting hacked because they use the lamest security measures and copy paste programs, scripts and codes from others.
A hacker is not able to hack something he/she has no past experiences with. So in order to be safe from hacks is better to write your own unique codes and design every thing from scratch and never disclose your source code to anyone if you don't trust them.

I never heard of a casino being hacked maybe it's because they kept it from the public to be able to continue their business and they replaced the stolen funds from their own pockets.

Hackin is the most profitable way to earn money for criminals as they do not need any mask or guns but can hack anything at the comfort of their home and a computer and high profile criminals are spending a lot of time into it and there were major hacks in almost of the websites be it gambling or exchange sites and those hackers are not petty ones to provide some trails and so is the reason you wont find anyone being caught.

it does also crossing in my mind that maybe sometimes they lying to us to took users money and nobody know their method how to hacked online casinos besides themselves and i'm pretty sure they will never publish how to hacked the particular sites however untill now i wasn't heard any gambling sites got hacked and losing a lot of bitcoin

Well with how advanced and unbelievably smart ha kers are nowadays, it's not impossible to lose money over casinos through hacking. Especially o line casinos. So it really is a risk that we take whenever we place money as capilas for our gambling or in online wallets. We just have to really be careful and make the necessary security checks like making sure your passwords are secure and don't put all your money or btc's in the same place.

Your question is a bit funny, how can they hack an online casino? Ask the hackers if you really want to know it, sure that great hackers can hack any sites they want to hack. No matter what is the site (gambling, trading, forum, news site, etc) as long as the hackers want to do it then they will try everything till they find the way to hack the site.

We wont really know on what would the things that hackers do since we are not hackers at all. Hackers do have different capabilities and skills and which depend on them if they could able to hack anything.I do believe that those hackers are just still there lurking and waiting for the right time.For now,i didnt hear any online casino that is being hacked.

If I'm not wrong most of these casino owners aware of these hacks and they will not store all bitcoins in any one account instead they will be storing in many other offline accounts, and they will load some coins for daily transactions, and anyway they will not make any instant payment for larger amounts. So what they claim hack is mostly suspicious, and I don't believe it.

during my stay here in bitcointalk I am not that active that time but I read on a dice site that they are been hacked by a hacker as far as I remeber it is a system bug I cant really remember tha website name but it is one of the popular dice sites , due to that hack the hot wallet has beed wiped out and it cost them more than 10 btc I think

There were some incidents of hacking of casino site this past months but I think all the funds were safe.  Hackers will always try to hack any site that they think they can get money.  They will always try their luck to get what they wanted.  


Yes Casino owners take precaution on keeping majority of the fund in cold storage.

What can I see is gambling site have more chance to get hack, beside hack their hot wallet, it can be a compromised script, means the hacker can exploit the system script to earn profit, although it can't affect to other users funds and I'm still question if such case count as hack or not https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/player-cheated-online-bitcoin-gaming-site-1-million-reward-offered-help/

It's not the matter of how clever the hackers and how dumb the casino owner
Just remember nothing is safe in this world , especially if you talking about an online security
No matter how hard / good a security system there will always something to exploit
And it's part of someone job with ability to break it out and make them to fix it.

Big exchanges are far better target, as they usually have far mort BTC in hot wallet stored. Bitcoin is still a new tech and we have no idea how to build strong security.
Usually security of an exchange is breached because their system is proven to be flawed by design (Poloniex, Bitfinex&BitGo).

i think the op want to know that either some has invested money in casino and then the casino hacked by hackers and he faced a lot of money lost. to me i do not have such an experience, although i played gambling through different online casinos but still i never feel that either any casino have been hacked.

i never heard of a gambling site being hacked. But accounts in a gambling site is a different story.
In my opinion, a gambling site can only be hacked by an inside job. Either devs have ensured a backdoor or the owner decided to screw investors.

I have heard of not gambling site wallet getting hacked but instead the gambling site is got hacked and the hacker hacked the games and got the next winning seed and cheated with the site. In this option one job was done by the gambling site developer itself as he knows about the site gambling application so he hacked it and cheated and on other incident one of the hacker itself cracked the gambling game application and got the next winning seed and hacked it. But in both the option both the hackers got caught.

Yeah when it comes to accounts, i even have friends who had theirs hacked. We have to be really careful in putting money in gambling accounts even in online wallets as these hackers are real and have had a lot of victims already. It's best to have several wallets and to scatter your money so you won't lose everything if your main acct us hacked

As I remembered we discussed this one long time so what the purpose to start new thread with same title. I personally take withdraw right after get finish on any casino so till now I don't lose any amount due to this incident.

well i couldn't find the topic when i searched. and as you said it was a long time ago so maybe that is why.
but if you know the topic then why not include the link to it in your comment, i will review and if i find it more complete i will add it to the first post and close this topic.

So far I haven't heard or read any news about a gambling site that has been compromised or breached by hackers. they maybe the same as exchange as they are holding tons of bitcoins to operate and roll it over to their customers. But I don't know if that is true that gambling sites has tighter security rather than exchange sites.

lol really? you never heard a single story about this?
the most popular story was about how hufflepuff stealing bitcoin from primedice though a 'legitimate' rolls (confirmed hacked),
full story read here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=843892.0 ,
they lost 2,000 bitcoin or worth to $1 million that time if i am not wrong.

If you Google it you will see a lot of information about hacking a casino. Is it possible to hack online casino? Well Yes, most probably someone who have inside information of their system or someone who has advanced IT knowledge. But at the end, all of them will be caught and will face the punishment for their crime.

I have gone through that link it's a great article, and after watching that video still i can't believe that how he did that job. He cheated casino it is wrong, but for his intelligence, we have to hats off him. Instead of paying casino he gained 1000 BTC just 1% house edge. It was a bad day for the Primedice site. But Hufflepuff becomes a millionaire in a single day.

you are correct becaus the story has happened in August 2014 and by that time (according to bitcoincharts) price of bitcoin was about 500-550 USD which makes the amount about 1 million dollars.

but what i don't understand is how he withdrew that amount. even if it was multiple occasions, these sites usually don't allow automatic withdrawals of big amounts. which means you can withdraw 0.1BTC for example in a second but if you want to (for example) withdraw 20BTC it goes to manual mode and it takes longer.

Maybe he used multiple accounts on the site and withdraw it partially. But i think based on what i read, he withdraw a part of it and the owner of the gambling site approved considering that the user will play more and recover the winnings, but the user didn't gamble again and take away a million dollar USD. Lucky guy

The problem is, if a Bitcoin casino claims it was hacked, you do not really know if it was hacked or if it was an inside job.

Same is valid for the Bitcoin exchanges. You would need to have access to the server compromised, to check what happened there!

Try to hack a casino and receive a prize if succeeded, that's not stealing and is legit and honest earning method nowadays for many talented hackers.
Your question is common like has any one ever robbed a bank? no they asked nicely only with pointing a gun in addition of asking :).

Yeah, that promos should be good for professional hackers, generally people can't hack it and it is wasting time, real hacker gurus are hacking big exchanges wallets, you know bitfinex 6 figure btc hack case

that is true but at the same time i don't see what can a casino gain from lying about getting hacked unless they run away afterwards (which i don't know of any examples that said they were hacked and ran away) but so far when an exchange service says they were hacked, they run away with the money and never show their faces again which proves something!

as i said it was considered as legitimate bets ,
but then primedice realized it wasn't legit but hufflepuff have exploited their system (not sure what exactly it is) ,
so they just allow him to withdraw those 2,000 bitcoin ,
and acussing him after that , don't take seriously my words for more reliable info just contact edward directly.

Well, i have spend 1 and half year in gambling, but i never hear any bad incident about gambling sites hacking. Only one incident of exchange hacking of Bitfinex and nothing more. But it was exchange, and i see all gambling sites are trust-able more than investment sites. People trust them and use their money into online gambling sites for play and also i am one of them.

The so called prime dice hack is done by knowing the server seed and he did not hack any bitcoin ,he was withdrawing the money in a normal manner and they did not see any irregularities in the bets and only found that out at a later time. Exchanges that got hacked got the worst hit and i am not sure about the betking thing.

maybe there is casino that have been hacked but we don't know about the truth because so far i am playing gambling in several of gambling sites, i don't hear any casino gets hacked. but i don't know if hacking is the other reason for casino to get closed and shutdown their business and take the members money. i only know that exchanges is being hacked but they still continue their business and they upgrade their security to keep the sites still online.

There are several casinos that has been hacked in the past but their investors does not bite the story, most of the casinos who declared they are hacked are those operating in a scams, there purpose is just to invite investors and when they already reach their target, they run away with the money.
That is a lesson that everyone should learn, when investing go for the reputable gambling sites and the long time operating sites.