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One of the biggest factors that keep Bitcoin alive is the development team behind it. What if this developer team breaks down? Are there any other people who can continue the project in technical terms?

If the main Core dev team "breaks down" someone will pickup from where they left. Someone has to :D There are more people beyond the Core dev team members that understand Bitcoin. Even if there wasn't, there's too much at stake for many and Bitcoin would be further developed, one way or another, by people who really know Bitcoin or who are willing to learn more.

There is no question about it. I agree but... new team would need a lot of time to get a hang on current code to develope it further.
That would be big pause for development, a lot people would step in for sure, but it would hit bitcoin a little bit.

Bitcoin won't be reaching the further development and it will make a good chance for the other dev to take over.  :D

I agree. There will be lots of people, including some hackers, will take over the job and continue to develop Bitcoin if the origin developer team breaks down. As you can see, many people in Bitcointalk have experience and advance knowledge about Bitcoin and the Blockchain so that I believe that Bitcoin will still be supported no matter what

it's not a team.
it's many.
it's individual and group.
it's people.

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we build a network of TRUST.

But technology is made this way. Some guys create, anothers continue and upgrade it. It's like the computer invention, or internet invention, there are always someone creating things and if it's succesful, another persons will pick it and upgrade.
However you are right, a lot of people would feel some untrust because of an event like this. It would depend the new team skills and reputation also.

It is not like being core developer is a main job for these people. AFAIK they are not even being paid for doing it, they work on bitcoin in their spare time. It is a contribution.
Developers come and go, contribute something and then leave. Do you guys remember when Mike Hearn left core dev team because he said that "bitcoin is failed experiment"?

PoW is Technically an evolutionary Dead End, so he was right .  ;)

Current BTC Core members are pushing seqwit & LN, and refusing to increase the blocksize , we all be lucky if they would Quit.


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yeah and now he's trying to make his dream come true with Unlimited Fork, to prove his words

Even If nobody would coutribute to  bitcoin from now on, it would still operates as it is, I presume, without upgrades and changes

and this is why people should not be sheeple, idolising any particular people and treating them as kings. trying to get other devs to run away to only give power to a few devs.

because when they go, they are gone.

bitcoin needs to be diverse have multiple implementations and multiple open platforms.
not a centric one circle of 12 corporate paid devs and 90 interns hoping for a job if they show blind loyalty to the paid devs.

but multiple implementations and many teams all working in consensus. that way if one falls away there's still diversity and openness.

bitcoin is open source, so anyone can fork or maintain it if the developers screw it or abandon it.

so basically the answer is the same as what would happen if any open source software team breaks down

in fact the founder of bitcoin (sathosi nakamoto) is no longer support it, and never come to working at bitcoin again.
we can see bitcoin still working, and more support from core developer, QT, classic, XT etc.

Well there should be some rules written as a contract and include it in blockchain, what happens when they retire or what is going to happen to key core developers 50 years from now? I doubt bitcoin core to be open source, maybe open to view but not open to change for random coders and devs.

maybe if the developer team of bitcoin break downs, maybe the value of bitcoin will also go down. but for me it is impossible because theres a lot of users who uses bitcoins. and for that reason maybe there would always be some backup plans for bitcoin if that happens. maybe some one will maintain the bitcoins value .

Yeah, I'm pretty sure we would be lucky to have you as a core dev instead.

If the development team breaks down, this maybe the end of Bitcoin. Some people may criticise the core team but they have contributed significantly to the growth of the project. There is a reason why we have so many fork of BTC coins over, this is because the core is secure

I don't think it would be the end of Bitcoin, but it would be a disaster for sure. One can hate core devs for political reasons, but they are no doubt one of the smartest people in the world. I don't think their opposition is anywhere near as knowledgeable.

Worst case scenario will be when power hungry people like Mike Hearn and Gavin come back, when the Core developers fail to deliver. I feel that they are failing already, because they are deliberately holding back small increases in the block size to pave the way for SegWit and the Lightning Network. In my books that is sabotage.

There are more power hungry people out there, who would gladly take on this challenge. ^smile^

not that fast, many supports bitcoin and they can manage to make the value of bitcoin stand still.

LOL,

You can't Afford Me!   :D


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I may have to disagree with you on that.  For one, The bitcoin developer team isn't made of a single developer. Since Bitcoin is an open source Project.  It means developments been made by team of dedicated devs (Some of which are not part of the core team). Also, When Satoshi left, It didn't take bitcoin away, Instead new developers volunteered to contribute & support the project. Same would happen If the current team "Breaks down".

as you may know bitcoin source is open and anybody with c++ and programming knowledge and also knowledge of bitcoin protocol can learn and develop it.
there may not be as many people who fully understand the bitcoin protocol (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1758778.0) but since there isn't only one person developing and also because there are others who have the knowledge it is never going to be a problem to pass the torch to other people.

that is why there are so many altcoins, anybody with little knowledge about these things can copy the code and make a new one.

Well that could be challenging and people will definitely panic and will sell off their Bitcoins which will cause it to devalue but with the love people have for the Bitcoin project and what they stand to loose when Bitcoin development stall I think will motivate more developers outside the core to take over.

but you need a talented and not biased dev not anyone can do it, being open source is good but you need to find the good programmers also, some of them hat worked on core weren't that good in the end, or they abandoned it because they had different idea

I think if the dev team has a leader and he knows that there is something happening to the team he will find solution beforehand like when a member is going out of the team to find another project then the leader would find some replacement to him that is fitting to be in the team not just newcomer who is not into the idea of the team.

Break down of the developers is impossible because bitcoin is in high valued coin, I mean high managing condition.
And many will supports behind those developers so it would not happen then.
Bitcoin is in good condition so as to developer.

Bitcoin, the virtual currency technology is striving despite an ever present war.Dispute arises about the maximum size of a block creating a difference of opinion between the two groups, chinese community and western developers. Current limit for maximum block size is 1 megabyte which makes transaction too slow allowing only 7 transactions per second which is very low for most of businesses who have integrated bitcoin technology.some devs propose a block size limit of 20 mega bytes and chinese community propose block size limit of only 8 mega bytes.Bitcoin current market cap is around $4 billion with millions of dollar investments waiting in line.The block chain is a completely secure and decentralized system, and the large user base along with a relatively lengthy history makes the blockchain technology superior. However, if the community falls apart over the block size limit debate, the entire network will be compromised.

This thing would not happen because bitcoin users support bitcoin itself so why break down will happen if there are many supporters behind the coin? Anyway, bitcoin is now in a long run to tell that it will go down.

If the bitcoins developers team break down, so it will become the ends of bitcoins
although i am doubt it will happen because many people whom make investment into bitcoins and
many people whom try make bitcoins become more easy to be used.
It is mean the bitcoins developers team will not breaks down and still many people whom cares to bitcoins.

No, on the contrary. It would be a new beginning, it is not hat core devs are irreplaceable individuals.
Core dev team consist mostly or contributors anyway, they came and they go, it is not team of close associates AFAIK.
Of course we would have short period of drama surrounding BTC in case of whole dev team would split. But I doubt it would be permanent chaos.

While this is true there should be a line drawn. A good example for this is how Roger Ver is trying to rally the big blockers and all the "sheeple" as you said to go with them and fight for their cause. Does Roger Ver really know the technical ins and outs of Bitcoin? Between him and Peter Todd who would you listen to?

yes it will  surely produce panic, because now people cannot afford to stop using bitcoin, and they will certainly motivate other developer to take the charge, but they cannot manage to stop gambling for ever. we can hope that in reality we will never face such kind of issues, which create panic to the people.

Then Satoshi will gather new team  :)

You do know Satoshi is fictional like the tooth fairy?

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The developers is the most important to maintain bitcoin to enhance it. So if the bitcoin developers has breakdown also the bitcoin will affected. There are many developers can continue bitcoin development when they know the bitcoin because bitcoin is a free sofware and it takes time to develop it because it will need deep study about it. But because of the age of bitcoin I think it will not happen.

Personally i don't see any reason why bitcoin developers will break down because Bitcoin is stable and have a high value is a BS if they abandoned it now. They have a lot of time to do this before. But still they choose to hold on to btc

In my own opinion, if the teams break down which means someone else who is not part of the team to take over will be very difficult because for another developer to take over another project in which he is never part of means tearing down the project and start all over again and thats why when the developer is no where to be found before the projects gets to maturity stage, then its going down and no two ways about it.

In fact, the community is supported by many people, and that support grows every day. Among these people, there are individuals with many programming skills and deep knowledge about blockchain technologies... If necessary, such people would be willing to contribute to the development if some developers decided to leave the team.

Remember that bitcoin is decentralized and so any developer is welcome for bitcoin. If one team developer breaks down many will replace them since bitcoin is profitable many will climb up to the developers level. And as of now I have not heard of a developer team that breaks down and  others are piling up to join the group.

If BTC valid and meet the demand, there is always support Dev

i dont defend people i defend the direction bitcoin is heading and hoping it stays inline with bitcoins ethos. i dont care if peoples pseudonymous nicknames get hurt. as thats just some side drama they play the victim card in..

funny thing is people think because i detest gmaxwell and sipa, that somehow i must think gavin, hearn and ver are kings. wrong

what if i told you gavin (via Bloq) and hearn (via R3) are in the same pockets as blockstream devs, once you peal all the layers away.
and that drama is just a finger pointing exercise to distract the sheep.

even funnier part is that its only core that are trying to split the community, and trying reserve psychology to point cores own plans to sound like its what other teams are doing. fooling the sheep to follow the wolf by pointing at a blacksheep and saying "look sheep stay away from that black sheep, its really a wolf"


even gmaxwell admits ver, gavin and others were against splitting the network.. but gmaxwell loved the idea of splitting it

Probably nothing. The team can break down and still Bitcoin will most likely not be affected in any way. If anything happens, we won't even know because we have no idea who created it and if there are any developers or just the guy who had the idea and programmed itself (which would mean he's a genius).

I don't think so, there will be always good man/new comers to fill empty seat on the devs team.
Until now, I  believe that Mr. Satoshi still in devs team or watch over them.
Even gmaxwell love the idea to splitting, we will be fine.

Even though they break down there are many who have knowledge to develop it from core because now a days it is an easy job. Daily we can see many people are launching altcoin on the basi s of block chain technology only. Due to because there are many people who can develop it from scrap and regain it's position back.

Bitcoin developer team won't gets break down easily. When one developer gets out with a negative statement the next person comes to the position. Blockchain developers are in much demand worldwide. In China banks show interest on Blockchain for which recruitments for more than top 30 Blockchain developer search is going on. So soon or later someone will take it towards success without falling down.

If this has to happen, I think a lot of programmers would love to continue and take over the coding and probably improve it. Its open-source so I think a lot of programmers are currently contributing aside from the core/dev team. Merging and testing are another thing, but if is unlikely scenario would have happen, bitcoin will still continue to exist and who knows in the future.

Personally speaking does not matter when talking about open source software and bitcoin community. Hence, this means that nobody is irreplaceable given that the code of bitcoin is available to everyone. Take a look of permanent developers, because there are many occasional ones, here. https://bitcoincore.org/en/team/. Some of them if not all are members of the forum so you can ask to give you their opinion. Also, there is a similar thread asking the number of bitcoin and altcoin devs here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1303391.20. As far it concerns bitcoin's price I believe for most of the users its not a big deal the devs team so they will not start to sell in panic if they learn the team has broken down.

I don't think that an ''industry'' like btc, will not have ''back ups''. It's not,  for btc developers team break down so easily bcs we are talking about millions. Never anywhere will ever play with lots of money.

Thank you for the honest reply. I respect you more for it even though our views are different.

I started reading about Bitcoin Unlimited again to really understand it and to be honest the minute I saw that there will be 3 types of nodes, with different types of settings, I think Andrew Stone the lead programmer for BU is making a simple implementation more complex. Bitcoin Classic might be a better way. It is simple.

I read somewhere that Bitcoin is preparing for a hard fork, is this correct? If so what will the implications be and will some Bitcoiners be on a different chain? As BTC is so decentralized I do hope there will be enough developers to cope, especially with the transaction sizes.

Please read the whole thread and research on Bitcoin more. I am giving you the benefit of the doubt here because I do not want to be quick to accuse you of being an alt account or part of a large group of spammers. I will report you next time.


This makes me think you really do not know anything which makes you undeserving to make posts anywhere except in the newbie section.

Can We quickly learn the bitcoin protocol I'm wondering? Is it difficult to learn the codes and algorithms that make up the Bitcoin system?
If the bitcoin system is not easy to learn, the developer is hard to find.

although i personally have no idea about the codes and algorithms but to me i think will not be such a difficult job. they must have more developer and the will be working on it continuously therefore i think it is useless to even think about that. because bitcoin will continue for ever and there is nothing going to happen to bitcoin.