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Title: Donald Trump trolled by former Mexican president
Post by: OmegaStarScream on January 27, 2017, 12:45:07 PM
The former Mexican president has blasted Donald Trump's plans for a border wall on Twitter. He tweeted :

http://i2.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article9702447.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/Former-President-of-Mexico-destroys-Donald-Trumps-fking-wall-in-one-brilliant-tweet.jpg

More info to read : http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/donald-trump-trolled-former-mexican-9702407#rlabs=1%20rt$sitewide%20p$2


Title: Re: Donald Trump trolled by former Mexican president
Post by: grermezter on January 27, 2017, 01:22:22 PM
I really think the Mexican President should really ask his citizens what they want so that he does them instead of asking his next door neighbors who have a beautiful wall in between them.


Title: Re: Donald Trump trolled by former Mexican president
Post by: LTU_btc on January 27, 2017, 02:40:10 PM
How Trump reacted to this tweet? He don't like to be trolled on Twitter.
I think that wall between USA and Mexico is really stupid and not necessary thing. Former president is right, these $25 billion can be spent on more important things


Title: Re: Donald Trump trolled by former Mexican president
Post by: Karpeles on January 27, 2017, 02:45:49 PM
How Trump reacted to this tweet? He don't like to be trolled on Twitter.
I think that wall between USA and Mexico is really stupid and not necessary thing. Former president is right, these $25 billion can be spent on more important things

Donald Trump reacted by making the Mexicans pay for the wall with a 20% extra tax for the mexicans products.

Now that he is the president and can troll back with actions, not with words


Title: Re: Donald Trump trolled by former Mexican president
Post by: darkseid1199 on January 27, 2017, 02:46:48 PM
Even though its stupid and unnecessary the majority of those who voted for him wants it to be done. Trump has to answer to his electorates and what they wants, Thats what any sensible president would have done and i applaud him for that.


Title: Re: Donald Trump trolled by former Mexican president
Post by: fr4nkthetank on January 27, 2017, 02:51:17 PM
I think its obvious where the balance of power lies here...Tariff on mexican car parts, and modification to NAFTA will leave mexico.....broken.  You will have a massive devaluation of currency eventually if all hell breaks loose between the two countries.  They can't really count on the oil money anymore unless the price goes way up.  So Mexico will have to compromise.  I think the wall is going to be there because the outcome of these policies will be increased poverty and increased emigration from mexico.

I dont know if anyone realizes this, but car parts are big business.  For example, take an alternator.  Used to be made in michigan, now in some shit hole in mexico (sorry but its true, its a shithole, with a protected industrial sector).  The price the car company sells the alternator to Ford/gm whatever is pretty much the same, maybe a bit lower, but instead of paying american workers a decent wage, benefits, and retirement, they pay poor mexicans literally dollars a day.  These people live in places where they dont even have reliable electricity, let alone proper drinking water access.  They are trained to do specific jobs and they do it well.  Its not their fault, but they are exploited.  The wall is not for now.  The wall is for what will happen next.  Be right back, gonna go watch escape from LA again :) not that its super relevant...

In any case, the global economy is out of wack, with inverted capital flows.  There is a huge savings glut, excess saving, which is then sent to America which distorts international interest rates.  This is the real cause of the great recession, i.e. low borrowing rates and the reason we wont see higher rates in our lifetimes probably unless major changes happen.  so in conclusion mexico is fucked.


Title: Re: Donald Trump trolled by former Mexican president
Post by: Sithara007 on January 27, 2017, 04:45:17 PM
The arrogance of the Mexicans has given opportunity for Trump to justify his actions. Mexicans must remember that they are the lawbreakers. They must be thankful to the United States for accommodating so many Mexicans, including some 2 million criminals.


Title: Re: Donald Trump trolled by former Mexican president
Post by: Spendulus on January 27, 2017, 08:57:49 PM
The arrogance of the Mexicans has given opportunity for Trump to justify his actions. Mexicans must remember that they are the lawbreakers. They must be thankful to the United States for accommodating so many Mexicans, including some 2 million criminals.
The wall is needed to prevent liberals from escaping into Mexico after Executive Order to round them up and implant a Trump Brain Clone in each of them in order to shut them up.

And no it does not come with a Melania.


Title: Re: Donald Trump trolled by former Mexican president
Post by: iluvbitcoins on January 27, 2017, 09:18:50 PM
I never understood why USA joined NAFTA at all, they don't have any benefit from it

Trump should leave NAFTA

The arrogance of the Mexicans has given opportunity for Trump to justify his actions. Mexicans must remember that they are the lawbreakers. They must be thankful to the United States for accommodating so many Mexicans, including some 2 million criminals.

Isn't it actually like a brain drain?

I'm unsure about the Mexicans who emigrate

But I know I pretty much don't really like Germany&Ireland when Croats move there, because they're taking away our people  :'(
I'd be happier if they wouldn't let us in  :D
I mean, I love Germany&Ireland, they're one of our best allies and similar nations
I just don't think "we" should thank them for taking Croats in, I'd be happier if they didn't

Quote
every third Croat with a diploma is taking their skills and talents abroad
http://www.croatiaweek.com/action-needed-to-stop-brain-drain/

It's actually a good move
Native country spends money on education, and prosper countries get free educated people ready to work and pay taxes without investing anything in them

Unsure about the situation with Mexico though, I would think it's a similar situation
And I know many mexicans end up working physical jobs, but still
It's what emigration does, they perform jobs they are overqualified to do since normally employers will hire someone in their field from his native country and a native diploma instead of a foreign one


Title: Re: Donald Trump trolled by former Mexican president
Post by: ifightformerkel on January 27, 2017, 10:25:25 PM
Donald Trump was not trolled, by the mexicans.

I think they dont want to realize, that trump will introduce customs punishment of 20% or more for mexican products.

This mean the u.s.a. can take more than 16 billion dollar every year more.
And the wall will only cost about 20 billion, so they will pay for the wall if the want or not.
   


Title: Re: Donald Trump trolled by former Mexican president
Post by: Spendulus on January 27, 2017, 10:29:44 PM
Donald Trump was not trolled, by the mexicans.

I think they dont want to realize, that trump will introduce customs punishment of 20% or more for mexican products.

This mean the u.s.a. can take more than 16 billion dollar every year more.
And the wall will only cost about 20 billion, so they will pay for the wall if the want or not.
   

Plus think of all the jobs for Mexicans, building the wall.


Title: Re: Donald Trump trolled by former Mexican president
Post by: iluvbitcoins on January 27, 2017, 10:31:30 PM
Donald Trump was not trolled, by the mexicans.

I think they dont want to realize, that trump will introduce customs punishment of 20% or more for mexican products.

This mean the u.s.a. can take more than 16 billion dollar every year more.
And the wall will only cost about 20 billion, so they will pay for the wall if the want or not.
   


Wont US citizens actually pay this?
They are the ones paying import taxes


Title: Re: Donald Trump trolled by former Mexican president
Post by: Hydrogen on January 28, 2017, 02:57:58 AM
I think the way things are now.

American goods exported into mexico pay a tariff.

Mexican goods imported into the america pay NO tariff.

Trump is simply making things fair.



Title: Re: Donald Trump trolled by former Mexican president
Post by: darkangel11 on January 28, 2017, 03:02:10 AM
The arrogance of the Mexicans has given opportunity for Trump to justify his actions. Mexicans must remember that they are the lawbreakers. They must be thankful to the United States for accommodating so many Mexicans, including some 2 million criminals.
What about the American criminals, who escape justice to Mexico? What about tequila they all love, and tex-mex? Is trump going to block it as well? That wall is ridiculous IMO, but let him play with it. He's a victim of his own promises, but he's a stubborn man and like you said is going to at least try to build it. Probably won't finish, but we'll see.


Title: Re: Donald Trump trolled by former Mexican president
Post by: fr4nkthetank on January 28, 2017, 11:23:39 PM
that's a good point.  Especially since Mexico's president has a lot of vocal organized opposition.  A bit of CIA funding here and there for some unrest/riots :)  Once people get accustomed to a certain standard of living, they will fight like hell to keep it. 


Title: Re: Donald Trump trolled by former Mexican president
Post by: malcovixeffect on January 29, 2017, 06:59:59 AM
I wonder what will the great wall of U.S would look like..


Title: Re: Donald Trump trolled by former Mexican president
Post by: Xester on January 29, 2017, 09:40:47 AM
Donald trump would probably place up walls in the boundaries between America and Mexico. This may be costly but in this way America can secure that there will be no illegal immigrants from Mexico that will enter the United States of Americas border. If this will be implemented then the illegal immigrants cannot enter America and they will no longer lost their lives from gunshots made by border patrols. Trumps ideology of America is for Americans will be implemented and setting up a border wall is just one of the steps towards achieving its true goal.


Title: Re: Donald Trump trolled by former Mexican president
Post by: E-shipper on January 29, 2017, 10:13:08 AM
The arrogance of the Mexicans has given opportunity for Trump to justify his actions. Mexicans must remember that they are the lawbreakers. They must be thankful to the United States for accommodating so many Mexicans, including some 2 million criminals.
I think that Trump really has become hostage to his campaign promises. The worst for him,what if he tries do execute them I will run into such resistance and unpredictable the consequences. Welcome to hell !


Title: Re: Donald Trump trolled by former Mexican president
Post by: Sithara007 on January 29, 2017, 01:51:11 PM
Wont US citizens actually pay this?
They are the ones paying import taxes

No. The US citizens won't pay. If the Mexican goods get more expensive, then they will import goods from Canada or Brazil. Already the Canadian Tar Sands producers are salivating at the idea of having an absolute monopoly in the US, at the expense of the Mexican Maya crude.


Title: Re: Donald Trump trolled by former Mexican president
Post by: CroIsBest on January 29, 2017, 02:02:10 PM
Yea Donald Trump is Trolled by Mexican president but Mexico need to pay for own mystakes I  also think that why they dont control better who will run away from their country.They need better control in their country and then they will not have citizents which run away from their country,also they have bad politicians which cant destroy Mexican cartel just say to army attack cartel and destroy all cartel in country and problem is fixed but not they dont do it I think that Mexico leader is friend with Mexican cartels and because of that they are not doing enought to destroy them it is really weird country for me.


Title: Re: Donald Trump trolled by former Mexican president
Post by: Sithara007 on January 29, 2017, 02:12:58 PM
Yea Donald Trump is Trolled by Mexican president but Mexico need to pay for own mystakes I  also think that why they dont control better who will run away from their country.They need better control in their country and then they will not have citizents which run away from their country,also they have bad politicians which cant destroy Mexican cartel just say to army attack cartel and destroy all cartel in country and problem is fixed but not they dont do it I think that Mexico leader is friend with Mexican cartels and because of that they are not doing enought to destroy them it is really weird country for me.

Just admit it. The Mexican government is waging a war against the drug cartels for almost a decade now, and the situation hasn't improved a bit. On the other hand, now the conflict has spread to the other Central American nations such as Honduras and Guatemala. Perhaps now Mexico should urge the US to send its army to take down the drug cartels.


Title: Re: Donald Trump trolled by former Mexican president
Post by: CroIsBest on January 29, 2017, 02:27:58 PM
I cant undestand how that Mexican cartels are so dangerous and nobody cant defeat them in Europe countries army would fast destroy most l narco cartels and there will not be place for them.We have also in our countries narco mafia but  not so many like in Mexico and America which means that this 2 countries have bad strategy for fight vs them.I cant beleive how Mexico cartel is so powerful in America country that is really crazy what money can do omg hard to even imaginate that in my brain.Mexico needs more strict laws for drug dealers to fix that problem or if it is too late it need internathional help to fix that problem I dont know exactly situation there.


Title: Re: Donald Trump trolled by former Mexican president
Post by: darkseid1199 on January 29, 2017, 03:29:01 PM
Trump is not only trying to stop the mexicans out of the country, but He is trying to stop the flow of terrorists from coming through from that side. That place of the border is highly unsupervised and need a big beautiful wall 20 feet tall with electric fence.


Title: Re: Donald Trump trolled by former Mexican president
Post by: desertfox470 on January 29, 2017, 09:04:37 PM
I think it would be smarter to put more sensors around the border and have more agents on duty rather than building the wall. With that much distance for a wall it will hard to look after


Title: Re: Donald Trump trolled by former Mexican president
Post by: darkangel11 on January 29, 2017, 11:38:44 PM
Trump is not only trying to stop the mexicans out of the country, but He is trying to stop the flow of terrorists from coming through from that side. That place of the border is highly unsupervised and need a big beautiful wall 20 feet tall with electric fence.

The fence already exists and they are dealing with it by digging tunnels :D People will always find a way.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/02/US-Mexico_border_fence.jpg/340px-US-Mexico_border_fence.jpg

I think it would be smarter to put more sensors around the border and have more agents on duty rather than building the wall. With that much distance for a wall it will hard to look after
I agree drones with thermal imaging and infrared barriers would do the job.


Title: Re: Donald Trump trolled by former Mexican president
Post by: Sithara007 on January 30, 2017, 03:45:41 AM
Trump is not only trying to stop the mexicans out of the country, but He is trying to stop the flow of terrorists from coming through from that side. That place of the border is highly unsupervised and need a big beautiful wall 20 feet tall with electric fence.

The fence already exists and they are dealing with it by digging tunnels :D People will always find a way.

They WILL NOT find a way if the trespassers are detained and sent to the labor camps. But the American human rights organizations make it extremely difficult for the enforcement agencies to detain these illegals.


Title: Re: Donald Trump trolled by former Mexican president
Post by: Spendulus on January 30, 2017, 05:39:13 AM
Trump is not only trying to stop the mexicans out of the country, but He is trying to stop the flow of terrorists from coming through from that side. That place of the border is highly unsupervised and need a big beautiful wall 20 feet tall with electric fence.

The fence already exists and they are dealing with it by digging tunnels :D People will always find a way.

They WILL NOT find a way if the trespassers are detained and sent to the labor camps. But the American human rights organizations make it extremely difficult for the enforcement agencies to detain these illegals.
we'll see about that.



Title: Re: Donald Trump trolled by former Mexican president
Post by: mainpmf on January 30, 2017, 09:34:11 AM
Donald Trump was not trolled, by the mexicans.

I think they dont want to realize, that trump will introduce customs punishment of 20% or more for mexican products.

This mean the u.s.a. can take more than 16 billion dollar every year more.
And the wall will only cost about 20 billion, so they will pay for the wall if the want or not.
   


Wont US citizens actually pay this?
They are the ones paying import taxes

Shhhhhhhhhhh
let Trump supporters believe that 20% taxe will be enough to make American products competitive to Mexican production.

Let them believe. They'll pay anyway. As long as it's for their glorious leaders.


Title: Re: Donald Trump trolled by former Mexican president
Post by: 00hash01 on January 30, 2017, 11:46:07 AM
Donald Trump was not trolled, by the mexicans.

I think they dont want to realize, that trump will introduce customs punishment of 20% or more for mexican products.

This mean the u.s.a. can take more than 16 billion dollar every year more.
And the wall will only cost about 20 billion, so they will pay for the wall if the want or not.
   


Wont US citizens actually pay this?
They are the ones paying import taxes

Shhhhhhhhhhh
let Trump supporters believe that 20% taxe will be enough to make American products competitive to Mexican production.

Let them believe. They'll pay anyway. As long as it's for their glorious leaders.
And I don't believe that 20% will save American manufacturing. Moreover, what will America do if the world will go the way of robotics production? If it does not skimp on production of goods in China, American manufacturers are able to give jobs to robots.


Title: Re: Donald Trump trolled by former Mexican president
Post by: yoseph on January 30, 2017, 11:47:51 AM
Maybe The President of Mexico should arrest the drug dealers and give it to Trump  since most of the profits that is about 90% are from the USA. Trump should then use that money to build the wall. That should settle the case. But the wall should definitely be built. Just the old days where every city is surrounded by walls.


Title: Re: Donald Trump trolled by former Mexican president
Post by: JofryTheKing on January 30, 2017, 11:57:54 AM
Maybe The President of Mexico should arrest the drug dealers and give it to Trump  since most of the profits that is about 90% are from the USA. Trump should then use that money to build the wall. That should settle the case. But the wall should definitely be built. Just the old days where every city is surrounded by walls.
You like little children. What wall in our time, the time can stop smuggling or illegal immigration? There are many ways to overcome it. Like Trump for example by a wall can leave the drones?


Title: Re: Donald Trump trolled by former Mexican president
Post by: darkseid1199 on January 30, 2017, 12:07:30 PM
I think Trump should assemble weaponized drones at the border that will shoot anyone who tries to enter. I bet that will rather stop lots of people from even trying to cross the border. But He should rather focus on ISIS and those terrorist organizaions those are the real threats to America not people who want to work and make a livelihood.


Title: Re: Donald Trump trolled by former Mexican president
Post by: mainpmf on January 30, 2017, 12:13:50 PM
Shhhhhhhhhhh
let Trump supporters believe that 20% taxe will be enough to make American products competitive to Mexican production.

Let them believe. They'll pay anyway. As long as it's for their glorious leaders.
And I don't believe that 20% will save American manufacturing. Moreover, what will America do if the world will go the way of robotics production? If it does not skimp on production of goods in China, American manufacturers are able to give jobs to robots.

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhh
We all know that unemployment is only due to immigration.
I mean, there is no way that glorious capitalisme could be at fault here right?
No. Immigration. Without immigrants we wouldn't have unemployment!


Title: Re: Donald Trump trolled by former Mexican president
Post by: DrVaribo on January 30, 2017, 12:14:55 PM
I think Trump should assemble weaponized drones at the border that will shoot anyone who tries to enter. I bet that will rather stop lots of people from even trying to cross the border. But He should rather focus on ISIS and those terrorist organizaions those are the real threats to America not people who want to work and make a livelihood.
If we assume that ISIS is at war with the Russians, Assad and Turkey I have a question for you what is the interest of America? Russians don't hide that after the war in Syria plans to establish control over the region.


Title: Re: Donald Trump trolled by former Mexican president
Post by: joebrook on January 30, 2017, 07:31:59 PM
I think Trump should assemble weaponized drones at the border that will shoot anyone who tries to enter. I bet that will rather stop lots of people from even trying to cross the border. But He should rather focus on ISIS and those terrorist organizaions those are the real threats to America not people who want to work and make a livelihood.
If we assume that ISIS is at war with the Russians, Assad and Turkey I have a question for you what is the interest of America? Russians don't hide that after the war in Syria plans to establish control over the region.

What you call ISIS, the pentagon and other senior military personnel in the will call rebels fighting against the dictatorship regime. No wonder the USA were against Russian involvement in the Syria. They are cause of most of the unrest in the middle with the exception of Arabs who have the passion for spilling blood for no reason whatsoever.


Title: Re: Donald Trump trolled by former Mexican president
Post by: iluvbitcoins on January 30, 2017, 10:09:51 PM
Wont US citizens actually pay this?
They are the ones paying import taxes

No. The US citizens won't pay. If the Mexican goods get more expensive, then they will import goods from Canada or Brazil. Already the Canadian Tar Sands producers are salivating at the idea of having an absolute monopoly in the US, at the expense of the Mexican Maya crude.

Then how exactly is that "making the mexicans pay for it"?

It will only make the products more expensive for the american buyer

If the purpose was to promote purchase of american products, then importing products from other countries won't serve any purpose :D


Title: Re: Donald Trump trolled by former Mexican president
Post by: Sithara007 on January 31, 2017, 04:38:08 AM
Then how exactly is that "making the mexicans pay for it"?

It will only make the products more expensive for the american buyer

If the purpose was to promote purchase of american products, then importing products from other countries won't serve any purpose :D

Let me give an example. A Ford F-150 Truck costs around $38,000, if it is imported from Mexico (pays thousands of USD in taxes to the Mexican government). After the tariffs, it costs $45,600. The same vehicle, manufactured in the US costs around $40,000 (after paying thousands of USD in taxes to the US government). Now the US government decides to give a tax break, amounting to $2,000 per vehicle. Under the revised scenario, a US manufactured vehicle costs $38,000 and the one imported from Mexico costs $45,600. So there is no additional expenses incurred by the US buyers.


Title: Re: Donald Trump trolled by former Mexican president
Post by: gabmen on February 01, 2017, 11:28:58 AM
25billion dollars for a wall? Hahaha seriously thats what he came up with? That amount could go a very long way towards improving nit just america but worldwide issues. I think the former maxican president is making a very logical point here. That idea seems it's straight out of a comedy film


Title: Re: Donald Trump trolled by former Mexican president
Post by: Aikonio on February 01, 2017, 11:34:57 AM
Then how exactly is that "making the mexicans pay for it"?

It will only make the products more expensive for the american buyer

If the purpose was to promote purchase of american products, then importing products from other countries won't serve any purpose :D

Let me give an example. A Ford F-150 Truck costs around $38,000, if it is imported from Mexico (pays thousands of USD in taxes to the Mexican government). After the tariffs, it costs $45,600. The same vehicle, manufactured in the US costs around $40,000 (after paying thousands of USD in taxes to the US government). Now the US government decides to give a tax break, amounting to $2,000 per vehicle. Under the revised scenario, a US manufactured vehicle costs $38,000 and the one imported from Mexico costs $45,600. So there is no additional expenses incurred by the US buyers.
So the economy is working in a confined space. If Mexico is to put a Ford in America? If she will sell them abroad? America will be forced to use Ford only in the domestic market. But if in the place of Ford in Mexico, Toyota will come?


Title: Re: Donald Trump trolled by former Mexican president
Post by: Sithara007 on February 03, 2017, 03:50:30 AM
So the economy is working in a confined space. If Mexico is to put a Ford in America? If she will sell them abroad? America will be forced to use Ford only in the domestic market. But if in the place of Ford in Mexico, Toyota will come?

Who cares? Let Toyota replace Ford in Mexico (if they are ready for that idea). The American government receives zero taxes if Ford operates a plant in Mexico. No new jobs are created. Only the Ford corporation is gaining anything out of it.


Title: Re: Donald Trump trolled by former Mexican president
Post by: v1ryspro on February 03, 2017, 02:44:22 PM
So the economy is working in a confined space. If Mexico is to put a Ford in America? If she will sell them abroad? America will be forced to use Ford only in the domestic market. But if in the place of Ford in Mexico, Toyota will come?

Who cares? Let Toyota replace Ford in Mexico (if they are ready for that idea). The American government receives zero taxes if Ford operates a plant in Mexico. No new jobs are created. Only the Ford corporation is gaining anything out of it.
You are not right. Taxes America gets from the income of the Corporation Ford. Cars are sold worldwide in dollars, and the income returned to America. If the demand for dollars in the world will fall, the Americans will be severely hit.


Title: Re: Donald Trump trolled by former Mexican president
Post by: olushakes on February 04, 2017, 11:25:20 AM
Wont US citizens actually pay this?
They are the ones paying import taxes

No. The US citizens won't pay. If the Mexican goods get more expensive, then they will import goods from Canada or Brazil. Already the Canadian Tar Sands producers are salivating at the idea of having an absolute monopoly in the US, at the expense of the Mexican Maya crude.

Which means the Mexicans won't also pay if US won't  buys from them then there the wall will still be unconstructed and telling Canadians to pay for it will the the cost of the goods will increase and back to where we started from in addition to Mexico now leaving the border free for movement which is now a serious concern for Trump. If USA is really serious it should be more of partnership and not command or he will threaten them will military force like he did with IRAN?.


Title: Re: Donald Trump trolled by former Mexican president
Post by: btvlGainer on February 04, 2017, 11:33:47 AM
Wont US citizens actually pay this?
They are the ones paying import taxes

No. The US citizens won't pay. If the Mexican goods get more expensive, then they will import goods from Canada or Brazil. Already the Canadian Tar Sands producers are salivating at the idea of having an absolute monopoly in the US, at the expense of the Mexican Maya crude.
I wonder how can I import from Canada tequila? In addition, the production of goods in Canada more expensive than in Mexico. The Canadians will produce goods in Mexico and oust the Americans from the South American market.


Title: Re: Donald Trump trolled by former Mexican president
Post by: Sithara007 on February 04, 2017, 01:43:09 PM
Wont US citizens actually pay this?
They are the ones paying import taxes

No. The US citizens won't pay. If the Mexican goods get more expensive, then they will import goods from Canada or Brazil. Already the Canadian Tar Sands producers are salivating at the idea of having an absolute monopoly in the US, at the expense of the Mexican Maya crude.
I wonder how can I import from Canada tequila? In addition, the production of goods in Canada more expensive than in Mexico. The Canadians will produce goods in Mexico and oust the Americans from the South American market.

California produces a decent amount of Tequila every year. If the Mexican-made tequila gets more expensive, then the Americans can go for the native Tequila. And forget about Canada investing any significant amount in Mexico. They don't have that much of funds.


Title: Re: Donald Trump trolled by former Mexican president
Post by: Kvazimoda on February 04, 2017, 01:47:16 PM
Wont US citizens actually pay this?
They are the ones paying import taxes

No. The US citizens won't pay. If the Mexican goods get more expensive, then they will import goods from Canada or Brazil. Already the Canadian Tar Sands producers are salivating at the idea of having an absolute monopoly in the US, at the expense of the Mexican Maya crude.
I wonder how can I import from Canada tequila? In addition, the production of goods in Canada more expensive than in Mexico. The Canadians will produce goods in Mexico and oust the Americans from the South American market.

California produces a decent amount of Tequila every year. If the Mexican-made tequila gets more expensive, then the Americans can go for the native Tequila. And forget about Canada investing any significant amount in Mexico. They don't have that much of funds.
If California produces enough tequila then why buy it right now in Mexico? Additionally, after coming to power, the idiot Trump California declared the beginning of procedure of exit from the United States.


Title: Re: Donald Trump trolled by former Mexican president
Post by: v1ryspro on February 04, 2017, 04:11:56 PM
So the economy is working in a confined space. If Mexico is to put a Ford in America? If she will sell them abroad? America will be forced to use Ford only in the domestic market. But if in the place of Ford in Mexico, Toyota will come?

Who cares? Let Toyota replace Ford in Mexico (if they are ready for that idea). The American government receives zero taxes if Ford operates a plant in Mexico. No new jobs are created. Only the Ford corporation is gaining anything out of it.
Such protective measures do not work. If Toyota will produce their cars in Mexico that Americans will buy cars there and drive around America in the Mexican rooms. And Ford will stand by and not demand.


Title: Re: Donald Trump trolled by former Mexican president
Post by: Karloff on February 04, 2017, 07:36:58 PM
Yea Donald Trump is Trolled by Mexican president but Mexico need to pay for own mystakes I  also think that why they dont control better who will run away from their country.They need better control in their country and then they will not have citizents which run away from their country,also they have bad politicians which cant destroy Mexican cartel just say to army attack cartel and destroy all cartel in country and problem is fixed but not they dont do it I think that Mexico leader is friend with Mexican cartels and because of that they are not doing enought to destroy them it is really weird country for me.

Just admit it. The Mexican government is waging a war against the drug cartels for almost a decade now, and the situation hasn't improved a bit. On the other hand, now the conflict has spread to the other Central American nations such as Honduras and Guatemala. Perhaps now Mexico should urge the US to send its army to take down the drug cartels.
The war on drugs is a social problem. The cultivation and distribution of drugs around the world are mostly in countries with low standard of living. Maybe you need to improve the economic situation in these countries and not to fight?


Title: Re: Donald Trump trolled by former Mexican president
Post by: Sithara007 on February 05, 2017, 01:42:53 PM
The war on drugs is a social problem. The cultivation and distribution of drugs around the world are mostly in countries with low standard of living. Maybe you need to improve the economic situation in these countries and not to fight?

If the war on drugs is a social problem, then stop the war and try a different approach. What about legalization and regulation? And improving the economic condition of a third world country doesn't necessarily mean that you need to close down the factories in your own country.


Title: Re: Donald Trump trolled by former Mexican president
Post by: NyeFee on February 05, 2017, 01:47:29 PM
The war on drugs is a social problem. The cultivation and distribution of drugs around the world are mostly in countries with low standard of living. Maybe you need to improve the economic situation in these countries and not to fight?

If the war on drugs is a social problem, then stop the war and try a different approach. What about legalization and regulation? And improving the economic condition of a third world country doesn't necessarily mean that you need to close down the factories in your own country.
I am against the legalization of drugs. If people are accustomed to this poison, then it will be even worse. It seems to me that to fight the addiction is possible only when will be completely defeated corruption.


Title: Re: Donald Trump trolled by former Mexican president
Post by: Sithara007 on February 06, 2017, 04:30:54 AM
I am against the legalization of drugs. If people are accustomed to this poison, then it will be even worse. It seems to me that to fight the addiction is possible only when will be completely defeated corruption.

OK... the guys you support have been waging the "war on drugs" for the past 10 years or so. Now could you please look at the aftermath of this war on drugs? Please use Google to find out how many people have been killed so far, and how much money has been wasted.


Title: Re: Donald Trump trolled by former Mexican president
Post by: canah17 on February 06, 2017, 08:09:25 AM
The former Mexican president has blasted Donald Trump's plans for a border wall on Twitter. He tweeted :

http://i2.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article9702447.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/Former-President-of-Mexico-destroys-Donald-Trumps-fking-wall-in-one-brilliant-tweet.jpg

More info to read : http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/donald-trump-trolled-former-mexican-9702407#rlabs=1%20rt$sitewide%20p$2

Well that former Mexican president is one truly intelligent guy, he got better plans than trump -_- i mean really his one really good president trump only thinks about what is the outside problem of the country he wasn't even looking at the inside -_- trump really needs to be wise and think of his decision and that expense of the wall will cost american's really big tax for it and some are working hard for their family then big tax is coming they won't be left for them to enjoy their money -_-


Title: Re: Donald Trump trolled by former Mexican president
Post by: 21kevin21 on February 06, 2017, 09:34:54 AM
The former Mexican president has blasted Donald Trump's plans for a border wall on Twitter. He tweeted :

http://i2.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article9702447.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/Former-President-of-Mexico-destroys-Donald-Trumps-fking-wall-in-one-brilliant-tweet.jpg

More info to read : http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/donald-trump-trolled-former-mexican-9702407#rlabs=1%20rt$sitewide%20p$2

Well that former Mexican president is one truly intelligent guy, he got better plans than trump -_- i mean really his one really good president trump only thinks about what is the outside problem of the country he wasn't even looking at the inside -_- trump really needs to be wise and think of his decision and that expense of the wall will cost american's really big tax for it and some are working hard for their family then big tax is coming they won't be left for them to enjoy their money -_-
I believe that is $ 10 billion that Trump is going to spend no wall between America and Mexico would be better if he built a factory which would have worked with the Mexicans. And they would earn their money and America's economy would grow.


Title: Re: Donald Trump trolled by former Mexican president
Post by: fr4nkthetank on February 08, 2017, 02:19:04 PM
So the economy is working in a confined space. If Mexico is to put a Ford in America? If she will sell them abroad? America will be forced to use Ford only in the domestic market. But if in the place of Ford in Mexico, Toyota will come?

Who cares? Let Toyota replace Ford in Mexico (if they are ready for that idea). The American government receives zero taxes if Ford operates a plant in Mexico. No new jobs are created. Only the Ford corporation is gaining anything out of it.
You are not right. Taxes America gets from the income of the Corporation Ford. Cars are sold worldwide in dollars, and the income returned to America. If the demand for dollars in the world will fall, the Americans will be severely hit.

Actually...that's true in theory...But in practice, the money stays offshore.  If they bring back the money, they have to pay taxes on it.  So they accumulate it offshore waiting for a moment where the gov will be desperate and say we wont tax that money lol


Title: Re: Donald Trump trolled by former Mexican president
Post by: macedoniantable on February 08, 2017, 02:45:12 PM
So the economy is working in a confined space. If Mexico is to put a Ford in America? If she will sell them abroad? America will be forced to use Ford only in the domestic market. But if in the place of Ford in Mexico, Toyota will come?

Who cares? Let Toyota replace Ford in Mexico (if they are ready for that idea). The American government receives zero taxes if Ford operates a plant in Mexico. No new jobs are created. Only the Ford corporation is gaining anything out of it.
Let the mexicans have their Toys (TOYota!)! :D

The wall will never happen. Too much corruption would ensue with those assigned as the border patrols (taking bribes!) remember the richest man is the mexican drug lord El Chapo. He still has his mexican cronies just waiting at the borders to keep smuggling their drugs to poison the youth of america.

Let mexicans keep their "mean hombres" but remember what he said about Americans..."We're all killers!" ;)


Title: Re: Donald Trump trolled by former Mexican president
Post by: CllickerQluicker on February 08, 2017, 03:08:34 PM
donald trump want wall building border state in mexico - USA
is not good to mexico people


Title: Re: Donald Trump trolled by former Mexican president
Post by: Dem-artini on February 08, 2017, 03:10:57 PM
So the economy is working in a confined space. If Mexico is to put a Ford in America? If she will sell them abroad? America will be forced to use Ford only in the domestic market. But if in the place of Ford in Mexico, Toyota will come?

Who cares? Let Toyota replace Ford in Mexico (if they are ready for that idea). The American government receives zero taxes if Ford operates a plant in Mexico. No new jobs are created. Only the Ford corporation is gaining anything out of it.
Let the mexicans have their Toys (TOYota!)! :D

The wall will never happen. Too much corruption would ensue with those assigned as the border patrols (taking bribes!) remember the richest man is the mexican drug lord El Chapo. He still has his mexican cronies just waiting at the borders to keep smuggling their drugs to poison the youth of america.

Let mexicans keep their "mean hombres" but remember what he said about Americans..."We're all killers!" ;)
Smuggling has been and always will be. No wall will not help to stop her. Trump wants an easy way to solve a difficult problem. Or he doesn't know what he's doing or he wants to make money on the construction of the wall


Title: Re: Donald Trump trolled by former Mexican president
Post by: Flamma on February 08, 2017, 03:17:25 PM
I think this can't be helped considering that Trump had just been continuously doing whatever he wants. It would have been best if he had asked his own people what they would want to do with the money instead trying to build another wall from Mexico. So much waste of resource I would say. 


Title: Re: Donald Trump trolled by former Mexican president
Post by: DD-Lex on February 08, 2017, 04:06:36 PM
I think this can't be helped considering that Trump had just been continuously doing whatever he wants. It would have been best if he had asked his own people what they would want to do with the money instead trying to build another wall from Mexico. So much waste of resource I would say. 
I wonder what Trump would do if the wall of the migrants will cross on a hang glider or by digging? Drug smuggling can be carried out using drones. Why spend so much money on something that is not needed?


Title: Re: Donald Trump trolled by former Mexican president
Post by: Tyrantt on February 08, 2017, 04:37:56 PM
Mexico must have all of that, right? Why are then they crossing to US. they're having it too good? I love it when things like this happen... and of course, US had all of that when Obongo was a president. or maybe Mexico should have invested money from their wall on the south in all of that?


Title: Re: Donald Trump trolled by former Mexican president
Post by: Tyrantt on February 08, 2017, 04:39:34 PM
The former Mexican president has blasted Donald Trump's plans for a border wall on Twitter. He tweeted :

http://i2.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article9702447.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/Former-President-of-Mexico-destroys-Donald-Trumps-fking-wall-in-one-brilliant-tweet.jpg

More info to read : http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/donald-trump-trolled-former-mexican-9702407#rlabs=1%20rt$sitewide%20p$2

Well that former Mexican president is one truly intelligent guy, he got better plans than trump -_- i mean really his one really good president trump only thinks about what is the outside problem of the country he wasn't even looking at the inside -_- trump really needs to be wise and think of his decision and that expense of the wall will cost american's really big tax for it and some are working hard for their family then big tax is coming they won't be left for them to enjoy their money -_-
I believe that is $ 10 billion that Trump is going to spend no wall between America and Mexico would be better if he built a factory which would have worked with the Mexicans. And they would earn their money and America's economy would grow.

Why couldn't Obongo do that? Are you saying maybe that when Trump got into office, US got richer for those 10bil in less than an month?


Title: Re: Donald Trump trolled by former Mexican president
Post by: DD-Lex on February 08, 2017, 04:58:46 PM
It seems to me that Trump before becoming President thought that the American President is God and can do whatever he wants. Now he was faced with the fact that it is not and he doesn't know what to do.


Title: Re: Donald Trump trolled by former Mexican president
Post by: Hiren74 on February 09, 2017, 03:09:12 PM
Just eating popcorn and enjoying the trump show

Its hilarious and it will be the doom of us all :)