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If not, what innovations do you think future alts will bring to crypto ?

Some Alts already have brought innovation to crypto,
but the majority of traders trade BTC like they are trained Pavlovian Dogs.

Comparison

BTC aka Bitcrap
PoW / Energy Waster
Centralized to China
Over 51% Controlled by China for over a year
SLOW Transactions speed of 10 minutes
Onchain Transaction Capacity overloaded , some times taking days
Transactions entered into Block because of the Fee you pay and not the order it was created.
Needs LN (offchain solution) because BTC is a technical failure
Full Nodes receive none of the transaction fees , (Only PoW miners receive transaction fees.) (Basically supporting the network for Free.)
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Innovation ALT
PoS  / Energy Efficient
Decentralized
51% resistance build in by the chaos effect of Coin Age.
Fast Transactions Speed of 30 seconds
Onchain Transaction Capacity to spare ( 20X BTC Capacity)
Transactions entered into Block in the order they were created, no jumping in front of others by paying a higher fee
LN is unnecessary for such an altcoin
All Nodes can receive transaction fees , when they stake, while supporting the network.

(That Alt is ZEIT )  ;)

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And there are probably about 30 people in the entire world who know about ZEIT, no offense.  Same is true of most of these pieces of crap coins, regardless of what the "innovation" happens to be.  And the rest of the world is just fine with using their debit cards or cash.  So I really hope the altcoin scene comes to a big, flaming, disastrous end.  It can't come too soon.  As soon as the suckers stop buying this garbage, there'll be no impetus to keep churning it out.

So you are Hopin and Wishin people stay stupid,

odds are they will learn in time, as BTC unconfirmed transaction jams increase, they will begin to understand.

As to the other alts, it is up to their communities.

But ZEIT will survive thru the ages, Longer than BTC of that their is no doubt.   :)


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They will never learn because the system runs on greed.
And since every single person wants to be the Satoshi.. they jump from coin to coin.
Meaning we will NEVER EVER get our ducks in line to support 1 Altcoin.
It's a corrupt greedy immoral system designed to perpetuate a pyramid scheme token making machine.
Innovation is irrelevant.

the altcoin era in sense of trading, pump and dump and lots of profit is never going to be over. there is too much money there that will keep it alive, it may become slow from time to time but never die.

but the development era has never been good and it is mostly dead nowadays as altcoin developers are only thinking about making more money with premine, ICO and many different scams they pull. they rarely have anything interesting and they stick to features that look interesting to get more hype.

I was actually wondering how much alt coin you remember being launched in 2016 and whose value has reached next to zero or infact being reomved from exchanges. Should be huge list.

They do run on Greed, I do not.
I know their motives, they don't have the ability to conceive mine.   :)

In our case that innovation gives us the ability to survive, regardless of the shenanigans perpetrated by others.
Our Latest innovation around April of this year will be changing to Ultra Low Inflation.
Which will once and for all defeat the one foe that Proof of Stake coins have refused to battle (Their own Inflation).

Due to our quantity , our price per coin will always be affordable (no matter what country they reside in.)
Due to our New Ultra Low Inflation, that will end the Rich get Richer saga that all other Proof of stake fall prey too.
Due to being PoS, we are energy efficient and do not require ASICS or extreme monthly costs.

In my life, I have done thing others consider impossible or too large a task to be completed.
I have learned this after completing those impossible tasks,
1. I believe in my Creator and the Skills he gave me and Persevere until the Task is done.
2. There are times , when it seems like the task will never be completed, that is time, where I remember nothing has to be built overnight.
3. Once the Task is done, People look at me with that face they always make, the one where they are in Awe and wonder, shocked that such a feat was accomplished.

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FYI:
I have the faced the enemy know as Despair , even as a small child.
His lies had no power over me then and have no power over me now.

ZEIT Shall Endure & Persevere , No Matter what Storms may come.  The Knights will make it so!

qtum coin, qtum project new altcoin is new inovation altcoin
qtum coin to develop use between ethereum technology and bitcoin technology

It does not matter if Kiklo is a coin supporter.
I created a topic calling it.. the Altcoin scene is dead years ago guys.

I am not sure how many time i can harp and whine at you all and you still not get it.

The MAJORITY is in control and the majority decide !
THEY are the greedy ones...so the scene is fucked and doomed.

Having 1 coin supporter out of 100 profiteers here is meaningless.
You can not win.

@Herbert2020
What you just said is the giant Pyramid scheme that is the Altcoin world will continue on.
I agree.
Unless some hardcore sweeping regulations wipe it out bad.

You all are probably not even old enough to have seen the old Water Filter scam in the 80's etc.
It was featured on the TV show "King of Queens" ..Doug got sucked into one and lost money.
THAT is the whole Altcoin scene except we have many brands of water filters.

How many of you have researched "scam" and the definition of them and read testimonials from there victims / participants ? 1% ? 2% ?

Long ago the majority here morphed crypto into a massive Pyramid scheme of sorts.
Compare them and i dare you to deny it.. YOU CAN'T !

And no these are not "like penny stocks" either.
These are not companies and if they were they would be worthless.
Nor is there regulations like there is with the New York Stock Exchange.
Nope.. this is an illegal sketchy Multi Level Marketing / Pyramid / PONZI / MOD scene.

A "CEO" who sits on premined coins and holds the Github password to shitcoin #4,965 is NOT a "company"

Feel free to try and plant flowers in a sea of shit 1%'ers..
Just realize you will always be sitting in a sea of shit !

..why do you all think pyramid scheme etc are popular and will "never die" ?

I feel that the Alts will bring any innvocation that Bitcoin won’t or can’t

Alt coins as in 'alternative' digital currencies to bitcoin, they already peeked, but plenty will live on coz they are so easy to keep going, even with 30 people, but they'll rarely have any value again, maybe 2% of bitcoin cap combined.

Alt tokens used by new business models that perform a function will grow, and they might be larger than bitcoin one day, but they're strictly speaking, not currencies, but easily converted into money just the same.

Alts powering DAO based entities will be the next big thing, The DAO fiasco slowed things down in 2016,  but the next wave of alts will exist for a reason other than 'currency', like the new Pokereum DAO token, which is still an alt, but is not competing with bitcoin, it's powering decentralised poker application. App based alts still have lots of growth potential.

I have to agree with Spoetnik,  solving these problems does not in any way mean that people will start to use ZEIT.
There are plenty of other alts that hit at least a few of these solutions, but it doesn't mean that they are well run or not scams.

Alts are a pump and dump, people will scream how great they are when the price rises, but when it falls back down, it will be forgotten.

I do think that there will be an alt worth backing at some point. I just don't think we are there yet.
Bitcoin gets a pass as it has the first mover advantage. If you point out all the faults in Bitcoin and it fails, Alts will follow it down the drain.

PoW is not a thing of the past. This is at the inverse the only reasonable option for a crypto-currency ! With PoS price is only a speculative thing, as the coin has no intrasequal value. At the inverse, a well-established PoW coin can not go under its making price. You other points are good however.

To OP : no, the altcoin era is not over, it is for me the inverse, as many great projects are surging and we have passed the Scrypt shitcoins ICOs era !

It ain't over, look poloniex is so green and bullish with many markets +XX% nowadays, current pump was made by PASC whales, they pumped hard on this coin, and yesterday was NXC, today should be STRATIS.

they keep coming and many more will come,many altcoins have brought more anonimity and innovations to the crypto currency in my opinion some altcoins are stregthening people's belief in crypto currency.

they are just more or less silent because the price is not going bananas like 2013, just wait the next big rise in price

and they will never die, people will always try to innovate and try their luck trying to get immense ROIs, so the altcoin scene will always be around, one way or another

The good old times were a lot of alts rise 10.000% and more
(for example mazacoin, xc, blackcoin, auroacoin and so on) in a few days are not over imo.

When someone will bring a inovation or some exchange add some coin like happend with pascal,
then we also can see this risings again.

As long as there is demand, altcoins will remain in the market... I think that when projects start to be developed in Bitcoin sidechains, then we will see altcoins going through difficult times, but considering the fact that there is still no consensus on the solution for the scaling issue, the lifetime of many altcoins will probably be extended.

Its not over and the creation of altcoin would still continue and make some progress and innovations would be not the same to bitcoin but they do always fail most of them.Im always seeing and finding on the unique features of new coins that do launched but all are in common already.

I for one believe the "altcoin" era in the sense of pre-2013 is over indeed -- but this was a very particular sphere, the old school time of crypto currency. With IXCoin, the first Bitcoin clone and one of the first altcoins, being the stepping stone to something that has evolved to ideas such as "BBQCoin" in 2012, as well as innovative systems such as "NXT" and derivates soon after in 2013, cryptocurrency technologies have evolved into what we see now in the beginning of 2017. This field is ever-evolving.

I don´t think it ever will. Altcoins are the tip of this new technology development. They act like test versions of bitcoin but with a lot of improvements.
That's why altcoins will still be around for a lot of time

it'll never be over. it's just getting started. and it's nothing to do with innovation, it's all about greed and depriving the greedy of the cryptocurrencies that actually count for something.

It is definitely just getting started.

The World of cryptocurrency is still expanding. The potential for growth is massive and many opportunities are still emerging.

These are exciting times for anyone in this space and all of our participation is what will define the future of money.

I can just imagine you sitting on your couch, reading Däniken with aluminium hat on your head to protect you form all seeing eyes of the illuminati.

Seriously, though, Bitcoin has massive advantage in it being the first. As a store of value it is right now unbeatable.

Now, if we are talking about daily payments, anonymity, ease of use, yes, there is quite a bit of room for another crypto. Definitely not Litecoin, but Moneros and or Ripples mights matter in five years from now. Both can do things that Bitcoin is not good at.

I dont think that it is over but instead it is now only picking the right path, their are so many new coins emerging in the market with correct value and road path, if you correctly watch them, then in few years you can see lot of altcoin which will grow in good value and in long term they will be good and not like other scam coins.

There are tons of altcoins are pumping on Poloniex now, IMO the altcoin era is never over, and maybe sometimes there is a pause, but it never stops.

The consensus so far seems to be that the altcoin era is not over but that there is some question regarding the role innovation plays in its future.

Please elaborate.

As long as it will be possible for devs to earn money from ICO, premine, exploiting early adopter status ,pumps and dumps, as long new altcoins will be created.
There will be always bunch of people greedy enough to support even the most shittiest coins in the name of profits.

Pumps and dumps do not constitute an altcoin era. Altcoins which truly bring something new to the table, increase adoption of cryptos and rise because of that constitute successful altcoins. Penny stocks/alts will always be around.

i don't think that altcoin era is over, i see that in altcoin, many dev have been upgrade their altcoin to be better and they back up it so the coins will stay and will used by more people. if the altcoin era is over, then we don't see that it is time for altcoin to rise because in many market, altcoin makes good movements and we can earn more bitcoin for this. i am sure that within a week, there is always a new altcoin that will ready to launch.

No the era is not yest over, just most of the people not interested in using alt coin and because the lack of interest the coin become not popular and it become priceless, actually some of the alt coin offer a great feature but somehow alt coin need a better publication and get rid of the negative label, the future of alt coin still promising

There is always room for innovation. There will never be a perfect currency, there are always new technologies coming up and new problems arise, along with these problems come new solutions. And so all things evolve.

As long as there is room for improvement and the improvements in bitcoin come as slow as as they are at the moment there will always be room for altcoins and new ways of doing things more efficiently.

crypto needs adoption not innovation.

those pro innovation; tell me what innovation is needed?

imo the only innovation needed in crypto is simplification (to help with adoption by average joes), and all the innovation i'm seeing is doing the opposite; mostly making crypto more complex and further out of reach to average joe's.

i think altcoins are needed because btc went off the rails and doesn't match the promise its original potential showed.

you're dissonant with youself (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1767509.msg17651271#msg17651271)

If you mean that altcoins will never be bitcoin's serious rival, than yes, it's ended but people never stop creating of altcoin, because some people and even children wants their own coin but it's another taks, how they can to develope it. Some altcoin can to offer more innovation but bitcoin gained trust very much and this factor causes end of simple altcoins era but serious altcoins still can to try and fight against bitcoin.

I agree even till now there is no compete for bitcoin, that's why bitcoin became more popular. Even many coins are trying to secure there position after bitcoin but they are keep failing. Altcoin industry is keep increasing in all format but not able to secure their position.

Spending time on the next big exchange, yobit... opens your eyes.

Alts today are just a modern evolution of the casino with yobit at the leading edge...
There isn't even any pretense anymore that alts have meaning or utility...
New Zero Sum Games are not immoral among consenting adults... degens are gonna degen so take their money.

People who pine for the "purity" of 2013 like should crawl back under their rock.

i don't think it is over yet.
but things are obviously very bad these days. i keep seeing new altcoins pop up and when you check the project you find absolutely nothing new! it is the same old code copied and only with a new name!
if things continue this way, we either will see a million of them all at 1 satoshi and less or at some point they give up and leave the market alone to real development.

YES ! ..this !
I swear we think the same all the time. LOL

I also think these profiteers saying it's alive still are missing the point.
I seen guys defend Doge coin before by saying.. well, well.. i made 35 cents profit just now on trading it.
LOL uhmm so what ? who cares ?

Morphing the entire world of crypto into a massive infrastructure for lawless illegal profiteering make this closely resemble a gigantic Pyramid scheme of sorts.

You all rail on how they are like penny stocks and companies and IPO's with white paper's and fancy titles like CTFO of Githubbery.
But guess what ?
If there is no law against insider trading.. then there will be rampant insider trading.
And that goes on and on with other types of CRIMES.
Which is WHY FiNCEN exists in the first place and why FiNCEN requires exchanges to take your ID and they report you to the fed's while you chant Free Market.

The guy from KickAssTorrents does not have tinfoil on his head.
He made the mistake in thinking this was lawless shit.

In my topic RIP Altcoins (it was a thing) topic i mentioned the point you all tend to miss..
Richard Branson..
1 or 2 major players in the Financial world being brought into a legit crypto scene is worth more than every sleazy little scammy ass douche we have now wandering around in circle scrounging for chump change.

You see people the legit road is paved with gold !
Doing things for no other reason than profits and supporting coins you shouldn't in the process is self destructive and undermines the currencies trying to make a solid legit effort.

That is the path to HUGE riches.
What you are all doing now and defending is peanuts.. chump change.. a joke !

2013 was nothing.. imagine if 1 billion users joined crypto.  :o

..sadly greedy impatient immoral babies can't look past the 45 cents profit they are clutching now.

The majority are in control and you guys love it.
Then no one has to take responsibility for anything.
You can all collectively keep supporting sketchy crap for profits.

Does 1 person in crypto think we NEED Ethereum ?
No ..we NEED adoption.

And if you all cared about adoption you would be talking about it.. not coin prices.

Things will only be getting worse with law and regulations etc.
Authorities are not going to ignore this stuff forever.
They need to catch up with the tech then they will hammer it like they do with online Piracy.
We will have our own Martha Stewart doing jail time of insider trading one day..
But who will it be ? An exchange owner ? Butters ? a coin dev ? coin pumper ?

Btc will always remain ahead of any crypto but Altcoin era has not ended.In fact it is just the beginning for Altcoins,the possibilities are limitless.We would see a lot of innovative coins.Not all may survive, but some will stay here for ever.

I agree with it, innovation is always on the process and it will keep on going. Technology always upgrade so the alt coins too. But I'm sure that there are good ones that are able to survive as long as their devs are going to have time to make that coin to compete in the market.

pump and dumps and the fact that cryptocurrecy source code is open source is killing them. every time you blink a new altcoin is created and its price goes down to 0 just as fast.
and then there is big projects that are supposed to be good and you see them being pump and dumped
and then you look at their adoption, and there is nothing there. you can't find a damn shop in the whole world that is accepting an altcoin payment.

They will keep raising and keep evolving the bitcoin's trend so it can be accept world wide
Altcoin is risky investment so they must do some great marketing to keep their existence because the competition getting tough recently

In fact it is difficult to find projects that really are legitimate, there are many cryptocurrencies that are just schemes to get money from people with little knowledge about the cryptocurrency space. But some of these currencies are legit and some of them are important for the development of Bitcoin, as many of the improvements used in these currencies can be implemented in Bitcoin in the future.

Does useful innovation improve adoption ?

Sometimes.

Steem brought a lot of people into the crypto space who were writers and came from Medium (a blog platform). Many had never ever used cryptocurrency before. Steem was easy for them in that it uses usernames to move money instead of long addresses - but many of them then went on to learn how bitcoin worked and so on.

Doge also brought in a whole bunch of people who simply liked memes, and who also liked the whole Jamaican bob-sled sponsorship, the Nascar sponsorship and so on. The big innovation from Doge was to abandon the limited coin thing and embrace inflation (which meant that people didn't hoard and happily tipped and spent).

So yes, sometimes alts bring in people who bitcoin couldn't reach, and some innovations really do help adoption.

Quite difficult and that even within the legitimate there are many who seem abandoned, due to the lack of interest of its users.

Everything is still ahead.
And would develop a very long time.

I think it died and said it years ago because..
The dev's took the easy root i have pointed out lots.
Rather than making an improved distribution system. (with or with out a block chain)
They simply flopped onto their backs and started doing mass ICO's and "ledgers" etc.
Why ?
So they could they could focus on creating new gimmicks.

It's painfully obvious the effort to make a viable and adopted and innovative digital currency ended long ago.

If so then what has been happening ever since ?

Schemes.. gimmicks !
The focus and effort was shifted permanently now to making things like BlockNET, Steem or Ethereum etc.

It's simple, they realized they have no idea on how to improve on Bitcoin or maybe POS etc
So what did they do ?
Create a new "Currency" that has an alternative use.
In other words don't make a coin.. make a scheme of sorts that utilizes a block chain etc.

Look at Pascal
The big feature ?
It was coded in an alternative obscure language (which would has lots of draw backs)
C++ is more popular for a reason guys.

And the other "genius" part of it ?
I think maybe it was an accident..
I bet the dev guy started making a port of a coin in Pascal then ran into problems and simply thought hey know what ?
Screw it.. i will neuter aspects of the coin and pump it out as "innovative".
His NEW "features" were born out of a failure to port the code is what i am speculating.

And you will all eat it up because you have wide goal posts for what you call "innovative"
What would that be ?
Anything that is DIFFERENT and puts profits in your pocket.

The world of Altcoins is a facade.. a charade of smoke & mirrors.  ::)

I don't think the era of altcoin is over. Because fro what is happening now, little by little many altcoin are improving to their project. And the percentage of worth buying altcoin is also increase. Which means the innovation also improve unto it. More community are getting involve unto it also.

The altcoin era is not yet over,if you want to know why,just check out the altcoin section and see the many altcoin ico being launch with a promise innovations ,but some unscropolous dev has taken advantages of this scenarion because people still believes that there will be more bitcoin like start up,that is why they keep investing in this icos.

Many people are finding different innovative about altcoin, every one is showing interest toward altcoin even though they are not giving much profit. But upto now no altcoin has secure it's position after bitcoin. Every one is finding which one is going to be best after bitcoin which altcoin is going to secure it's position.

I think it also depends what you call an altcoin.

In generaly will be more and more altcoins. But lots will not have own blockchain but will use other asset platforms and will basically be an asset and not an altcoin, like are now MAIDSAFECOIN, AUGUR, ICONOMI, GOLEM, ARDOR, BITCRYSTALS, NEXIUM, ...

Well, thats a good point Febo. I think of alts as any block chain based token that isn't bitcoin. I'm guessing that most others here do too.

This thread seems to be evolving into a discussion of the relationship between innovation and altcoin adoption at the moment. There have been a couple of different points of view expressed, some of which sound like unsupported absolutist statements, others which contain a degree of hopium, and yet others which sound pragmatic to me. So lets look at the different positions:

1) Innovation is irrelevant to altcoin adoption because

• There is no such thing as innovation
• Innovation is just marketing hype designed to scam yet more money out of punters
• Innovation happens, but it doesn't improve adoption

2) Innovation is important because

• The adoption difficulties we have observed with bitcoin are a result of some functional failures (privacy, transaction rate, block size, blockchain size) that innovation could solve
  
• There are new application areas beyond store-of-value/currency-tokens (soft contracts, data security, etc) that are useful and not currently directly supported by bitcoin.

Can both positions be right ?

The same way as scammers take away adoption itself, steem is the best example, it was at the start a good new coin with a features that no other coin had, like earning with your blog by using the technology of steem, but then the websiste was scammed, and the trust was lost, destroying everything that was new about this coin
But i think you can have a good coin without innovation, but proper support, this is more important to me, the dev 99 out of 100 is MIA and the coin die because of this

This is where the conversation gets potentially interesting and divergent.

Yes they can. Adoption and innovation are separate from each other. Each have an effect on the other but neither is dependent on the other.

Hopefully this discussion will continue along these lines and not degrade.

As long as we have an active market with tokens to buy and sell i'll be happy even if bitcoin is the only relevant blockchain.

We may have a lot of new assets as new applications are found when bitcoin sidechains are released, since a lot of developers may not feel confident with ethereum and will bitcoin sidechains instead.

As far as altcoin pumps... NAUT just went up 134% for some reason, so you can still make big gains.

I think it is era of digital coins bitcoin and altcoins
because strats many people and corporations that investing on bitcoin,
and some people there are building altcoins
Something make me interisting are the marketcap of digital coins
very large. https://coinmarketcap.com

Yes, thats an interesting observation. But to put it in perspective, the market for hot dogs and sausages in 2014 was about $65 billion dollars.

~LOL~

The cryptocurrency market is still pretty young. If the majority of the world starts using bitcoin, then the wealth will spill over to the other altcoins. There will always be people looking for alternative investments.

Altcoin era is not over it just started and that is so good because we can trade with that type of money and make more money really easy on internet what is perfect for somebody who dont know to trade in forex but most dont know.

Nope, a lot of the innovation has been implementing by a lot of the cryptocurrency but it seems like can't encourage new adoption, the alt users are the bitcoin users itself.

But that does not have a high accuracy.

It is not going to be over unless their father is going to be out of the league, and that's bitcoin. As long as bitcoin will exist, it's subordinates which are the alt coins will also exist and will remain in the market. Without bitcoin, alt coins are going to be a single project that will be implemented without value unless someone will invest just like the starting days of bitcoin.

since it is an open source technology and there is always room for innovation and development and as a result seeing better things, I don't think the era  can be over. specially since crypto currency concept is a new thing and it is interesting too.
the fact that we don't see anything good, just shows there are so many scammers, and wanna be rich over night people who only know how to copy paste code. and their so called altcoin will be flushed and forgotten soon.

Bitcoin and altcoin are never over, they vould be having some hiccup, but they will last forever, reliable altcoins are profitable in the long term.

I am new to crypto, what strikes me is how unprofessional things are, how many amateurs have started alt coins and made money. I think alt coin era hasn't started yet.

The era of the altcoin will be starting if the altcoin will be accepting on the common marketplace.  You're right, altcoin era hasn't started yet. Too many the fool newbies wants to make his own coin for money without skill and experience. 
The scam ico has told an amateur about the fuckin morals to build your shitcoin for money. 

Of course not yet, there are a lot of alt coins that gave profit to user from trading, a lot of alt coins just not popular enough that is why the price become low, some of the coin offered a great innovation, but the trust for alt coin is very low due to a lot of scammed attempt

I can say its over as altcoins are used as a cheap source for crowd funding to run these ponzi schemes and very few devs have shown commitment for their altcoins which in the end don't get the required investment as we have lost confidence in them!

surely the new waves of scam after scam and copy shitcoin after one another is killing the altcoins and making all of them look terrible as a group but at the same time, that is not all there is to altcoins. there are still good ones out there, although hard to find and sometimes you get even disappointed in those coins too.
but there is still hope, and that is why i say the era is not yet over.

is this a joke? altcoins over? altcoins have been steadily increasing and gaining overall marketcap for years. Yes we have our dips, but each year we end up with an extra few million on the altcoin-wide cap.

I personally believe it is not and new, better innovations are yet to come.

The altcoin era will never be over unless bitcoin and the rest of the cryptocurrency fails. Otherwise, there will be a new " batch " of altcoins created. Most of the altcoins will fail with only a small percentage of them surviving in future. It is a good chance to buy cheap coins when the price of altcoins drop.

What a crock of fucking shit.  ::)

You all spew idealism and a feigned interest in "tech" chanting innovation etc.
Problem is you are all 100% full of complete doge shit.

All of you showed up here to pump & dump Altcoins for profits to get your hands on Bitcoin.

..morphing the scene into a massive digital token pyramid scheme machine.

You show up here and caw like crows about having ooooooooooooooooooooh so much fucking integrity
then pop over to Poloniex to trade the latest hyped up shitcoin bullshit for ROI'z.

This forum is LyingForCashCoinPonzi.org

Cry FUD and cash out...............

Will it continue ? Yeah.. just as it is now.. accomplishing nothing.
No altcoin has done a fraction of what Bitcoin has yet.

You all parade around what ever is popular as the next big thing chanting "one day".. while not lifting a finger to get them adopted.
Then you vanish when it's not popular anymore.
Simply because you had bags.. and then unloaded them.

Will it continue ?
Of course it will.

The Pyramid scheme machine scene will roll on with new entries at the bottom of the pyramid.

Crypto personified in 1 picture..

https://www.investor.gov/sites/default/files/How%20Pyramid%20Schemes%20Work.jpg

Adoption is everything, innovation is good to have, but only if it drives ADOPTION!!!

Unless there is mass adoption by Joe & Jane consumers that can use the cryptocurrency at WalMart or some local point of sale terminal to buy stuff, there will be no adoption of any crypto currency and that even includes bitcoin the mother of all the altcoins.  If the Old Farts like me cannot use a debit card to pull crypto directly from my crypto coin wallet, without going thru a 3rd party payment processor, such as VISA I may as well just use fiat currency.

And the real issue is the blockchain crypto's cannot do direct payments from a debit card, because they have to read the entire chain to get payment confirmations.  Thus the elusive mass adoption will not ever be available to a blockchain oriented crypto currency.

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This is from a Reddit post on bitcoin adoption, that I read this morning... the numbers seem about right, but the post was from a year ago.

Bitcoiners tend to inflate the userbase.
What we know since Mt.Gox, is odds are exchanges are faking trade volumes.
We know twitter followers are up to 90% fake for bitcoin related activity.

What you should take from this...
Stay away from bitcoiners as they will lie about anything and everything to increase the value.

Estimates based on calculation and observation:

Total people with bitcoin 200,000-400,000
Total daily active bitcoiners 3000
People who own up to 90% of all bitcoins <500
It has been confirmed under 50 users own a quarter or more.
Roger Ver owns an estimated 4% of non-lost bitcoins. Satoshi 10-15%.

So, the bottom line is that bitcoin is not a global currency that is even remotely distributed in an equitable manner... and with the centralized miners in China it is even worse... imho

Altcoin era is not over, shitcoin era is over. It ended with the ico period. These were the last coins to get the crowds help. From now on I feel like any coin will have to show some progress in order to gain the respect it demands.

you say that but look at trumpcoin! people still buy into these coins knowing they will never deliver any software or fulfil their whitepapers.

Altcoins r the future though. Bitcoin is so dated .. .. if the tech didnt evolve we would still be driving around in the original henry ford cars . .

But they're so blindly to see it at coinmarketcap.com how the result of altcoin is always growing every time.

In this month some of the projects were appearing such as melon port and taas and those seems the potential project in the future. At least they have same vision.

I think the altcoins era is far from over, there are many cryptocurrencies that have improvements that would be very difficult to implement in Bitcoin. Even if Bitcoin activates segwit and projects start to be developed in Bitcoin sidechains, it will take some time for Bitcoin to bring the risk of making all other cryptocurrencies obsolete.

Altcoin era turned into ICO era. A lot of crowdfunding happen lately and they fund some serious money over here. I think this industry will grow day by day, sometimes it changes money funding methods but in the end market is growing. 2-3 years ago we talked about new altcoins, now we're talking about new ICO's. Every new ICO show us different angle of how to use cryptocurrencies in regular life. It's healthy to have new innovative ideas. It's good for Bitcoin, too.

This days i saw some coiins that they growed about 90% in one day so i think that maybe it is but i am not really sure because i am not really some kind of expert but this means for me that era of altcoins is over what is bad for us.

Every time bitcoin price goes up,Altcoin price fall leading people to believe Altcoin are dead but this is not the case.
Altcoin will be there as long as bitcoin is there.

I think that altcoins will maybe become illegallin many countries in the all over the world because so many illegal scam altcoins which have admin which run away so fast when price comed to size which he wants.

I think you're right, In addition, after observing carefully there are some that seem to continue to be successful similar to its predecessor maybe.

Alt coin will never over, in the future when bitcoin is used by all people, some people will turn to alt coin and this year the alt coins really showing some great improvement, I see great future for crypto currencies

I think altcoin era is not going to be gone/over soon thats because many people are depending on alt coin to earn bitcoins but in my opinion I think there might be some of the altcoin thats going to hit bottom rock and go extinct but there are also thats trying to climb in the market place. So it really depends on the altcoin like ETH , LTC , or DASH are the highest altcoin right now but there are some new ones coming too. So i don't took altcoin era will be over soon.  ;)