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Title: Unfunded Non-Denominational Options
Post by: chasdabigone on January 30, 2017, 02:56:36 AM
Hi, does anyone sell coins that are unfunded - pref DIY so I can print the private key myself and know I am the only one that sees it. I've seen one but wondering how many are out there. Most that I see already have a specific bitcoin amount on them. I'm looking for something that is more like a physical wallet made out of a coin so I can put any amount on it without having to match the amount on the coin (i know this isn't actually required). Thanks


Title: Re: Unfunded Non-Denominational Options
Post by: Lutpin on January 30, 2017, 03:02:51 AM
I've seen one but wondering how many are out there.
A lot, probably.

Most that I see already have a specific bitcoin amount on them. I'm looking for something that is more like a physical wallet made out of a coin so I can put any amount on it without having to match the amount on the coin (i know this isn't actually required).
The recently sold out silver wallets (http://silverwallets.com/) would fit that description (to only name one candidate), I'm sure you can find one on the aftermarket (aka here :) ).

The Ravenbit DIY (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=382915.0) has no face value either (again, sold out, gotta find one on the aftermarket).


Title: Re: Unfunded Non-Denominational Options
Post by: Rmcdermott927 on January 30, 2017, 03:06:26 AM
Hello, Dignitas Designs makes some nice custom, non-denom silver bars.   You can PM me if interested. 

More info:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1733023.0


Title: Re: Unfunded Non-Denominational Options
Post by: killyou72 on January 30, 2017, 03:21:20 AM
https://nastyfans.org/mint

I would buy a nastyfan coin and load it, it as its private and public keys engraved on it and I think that is a lot more secure than a DIY coin


Title: Re: Unfunded Non-Denominational Options
Post by: HabBear on January 30, 2017, 04:36:03 AM
Check out the encyclopedia of physical crypto-currency (https://coinfirm.org/ (https://coinfirm.org/)), it'll have all the details of every unfunded (and loaded) option available. Then cruise the forum to find what you need. DIY all day long.

By the way, the inspiration for the book and the main author is a guy who goes by Elianite on this forum. Search his posts and you'll find more details.

Godspeed.


Title: Re: Unfunded Non-Denominational Options
Post by: tothemoonsands on January 30, 2017, 06:31:32 AM
You could check out https://www.friendsofsatoshi.com/shop/ Will soon have the Cryptocracy Coin in stock and proceeds benefit the Friends of Satoshi organization.


Title: Re: Unfunded Non-Denominational Options
Post by: klaaas on January 30, 2017, 08:50:41 AM
For a overview check out http://www.cryptoitems.com/list/


Title: Re: Unfunded Non-Denominational Options
Post by: Rmcdermott927 on January 30, 2017, 11:54:22 AM
https://nastyfans.org/mint

I would buy a nastyfan coin and load it, it as its private and public keys engraved on it and I think that is a lot more secure than a DIY coin

Your statement is false.  While I 100% trust ognasty and own tons of nastyfans coins, a coin where 2 people know the key is always less safe than a coin with 1 person knowing it. 


Title: Re: Unfunded Non-Denominational Options
Post by: Fortify on January 30, 2017, 05:07:47 PM
https://nastyfans.org/mint

I would buy a nastyfan coin and load it, it as its private and public keys engraved on it and I think that is a lot more secure than a DIY coin

Your statement is false.  While I 100% trust ognasty and own tons of nastyfans coins, a coin where 2 people know the key is always less safe than a coin with 1 person knowing it. 

Not necessarily, I expect manufacturers like NastyFans would have a lot more experience in the technical security needed to keep a wallet safe. A wallet produced and then destroyed on an isolated  system is less likely to be compromised in future. Some people producing DIY coins could be vulnerable to a trojan fishing around their system and stealing credentials, even if they were deleted.


Title: Re: Unfunded Non-Denominational Options
Post by: Rmcdermott927 on January 30, 2017, 05:14:14 PM
https://nastyfans.org/mint

I would buy a nastyfan coin and load it, it as its private and public keys engraved on it and I think that is a lot more secure than a DIY coin

Your statement is false.  While I 100% trust ognasty and own tons of nastyfans coins, a coin where 2 people know the key is always less safe than a coin with 1 person knowing it. 

Not necessarily, I expect manufacturers like NastyFans would have a lot more experience in the technical security needed to keep a wallet safe. A wallet produced and then destroyed on an isolated  system is less likely to be compromised in future. Some people producing DIY coins could be vulnerable to a trojan fishing around their system and stealing credentials, even if they were deleted.


Good point.   I didn't think of that.   One would figure that if you are generating keys for long term storage you would do it securely but I guess some people don't know proper "best practices".


Title: Re: Unfunded Non-Denominational Options
Post by: killyou72 on January 30, 2017, 07:15:43 PM
https://nastyfans.org/mint

I would buy a nastyfan coin and load it, it as its private and public keys engraved on it and I think that is a lot more secure than a DIY coin

Your statement is false.  While I 100% trust ognasty and own tons of nastyfans coins, a coin where 2 people know the key is always less safe than a coin with 1 person knowing it. 


How can you tell me what I think is wrong?

Nastyfan coins are the only coins I know of, besides the keyosis capsule that I can leave out in the rain/fire/etc because the private key is not on a piece of paper that can get destroyed/fade away in 100 years.


Title: Re: Unfunded Non-Denominational Options
Post by: wheelz1200 on January 30, 2017, 08:25:51 PM
https://nastyfans.org/mint

I would buy a nastyfan coin and load it, it as its private and public keys engraved on it and I think that is a lot more secure than a DIY coin

Your statement is false.  While I 100% trust ognasty and own tons of nastyfans coins, a coin where 2 people know the key is always less safe than a coin with 1 person knowing it. 


How can you tell me what I think is wrong?

Nastyfan coins are the only coins I know of, besides the keyosis capsule that I can leave out in the rain/fire/etc because the private key is not on a piece of paper that can get destroyed/fade away in 100 years.

Hahahaha


Title: Re: Unfunded Non-Denominational Options
Post by: NattyLiteCoin on January 30, 2017, 11:27:39 PM
These are pretty nice (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1714608.0)

 ;D


Title: Re: Unfunded Non-Denominational Options
Post by: Trader Steve on February 01, 2017, 05:09:10 PM
I offer them at http://BitcoinMint.com