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Title: Best Pair to trade with Bitcoin? BTC-USDT or BTC to Altcoins?
Post by: layoutph on February 04, 2017, 03:03:13 PM
Hi guys, since Bitcoin is Bullish now, may I know what pairs do you trade with Bitcoin? What can you recommend with me.. Is it profitable to trade Bitcoin with USDT or I'll stick trading Bitcoin with Altcoins only. By the way if you trade only using Altcoin what is the best pair?

Thank you so much in advance, dont forget to select your answer in the poll.


Title: Re: Best Pair to trade with Bitcoin? BTC-USDT or BTC to Altcoins?
Post by: Vaskiy on February 04, 2017, 03:09:49 PM
Bitcoin to USD is better form of trading than altcoins. Altcoins were highly volatile than bitcoin for which we can't make a perfect calculation similar to bitcoin. So with a small variation happening often we can make at least a small profit periodically.


Title: Re: Best Pair to trade with Bitcoin? BTC-USDT or BTC to Altcoins?
Post by: alani123 on February 04, 2017, 03:13:14 PM
BTC/USD pairs have the gratest liquidity but perhaps that might not be what you're looking for as a cryptocurrency trader. Upcoming altcoin markets with no established liquidity go through greater ups and downs, but are also prone to manipulation and hence greater volatility.


Title: Re: Best Pair to trade with Bitcoin? BTC-USDT or BTC to Altcoins?
Post by: BitcoinHodler on February 04, 2017, 03:19:15 PM
USDT is still an altcoin, but as long as it can keep its price the same as USD and have the same high volume with packed orderbook it is a good option. and now that bitcoin is rising it becomes a better option too.

but from altcoins i have my eye on litecoin. it is getting very hot these days specially with segwit being activated on it.


Title: Re: Best Pair to trade with Bitcoin? BTC-USDT or BTC to Altcoins?
Post by: layoutph on February 04, 2017, 04:04:33 PM
Thank you for the replies. I am planning to stick with BTC- USDT for my day trading.  And for altcoin am going for the stable ones. ETH, XMR, LTC, and ZEC. The bigger the volume value, the bigger the earnings.


Title: Re: Best Pair to trade with Bitcoin? BTC-USDT or BTC to Altcoins?
Post by: iram3130 on February 04, 2017, 04:47:11 PM
Thank you for the replies. I am planning to stick with BTC- USDT for my day trading.  And for altcoin am going for the stable ones. ETH, XMR, LTC, and ZEC. The bigger the volume value, the bigger the earnings.

No altcoin trading will beat the standards of BTC-USD trading nor will be more profitable than that. But I prefer BTC-ETH mainly coz the stable rate of USD rates right now.


Title: Re: Best Pair to trade with Bitcoin? BTC-USDT or BTC to Altcoins?
Post by: coynedterm on February 04, 2017, 05:08:21 PM
Hi guys, since Bitcoin is Bullish now, may I know what pairs do you trade with Bitcoin? What can you recommend with me.. Is it profitable to trade Bitcoin with USDT or I'll stick trading Bitcoin with Altcoins only. By the way if you trade only using Altcoin what is the best pair?

Thank you so much in advance, dont forget to select your answer in the poll.
In my opinion the best pair for the trading is only BTC/altcoin and after it altcoin/altcoin .
Here everyone k owe that it is a common thing for every country's people to use doller but in actual it takes much transaction charge as an tax  .m, So here most of the person  favoured the bitcoin bitcoin to altcoin trading . But some exchanges are also providing altcoin to altcoin trading like cryptopia .
So to going for USD for direct trading with altcoin may result in small more charge .


Title: Re: Best Pair to trade with Bitcoin? BTC-USDT or BTC to Altcoins?
Post by: deadpoolx on February 04, 2017, 09:05:47 PM
Thank you for the replies. I am planning to stick with BTC- USDT for my day trading.  And for altcoin am going for the stable ones. ETH, XMR, LTC, and ZEC. The bigger the volume value, the bigger the earnings.
Some of these may actually yield good results. I would say BTC, LTC and XMR are good to trade, but I would probably avoid ETH and ZEC. Higher trading volume and greater market liquidity, in fact, make these cryptocurrencies better choices than many others.

However, I think even these coins are subject to instability. Many investors may question aspects such as the way ZEC was launched in the market, and the fact that a large percentage of mined coins goes to developers. Others may question the fact that Ethereum is a project with a number of problems related to scalability.


Title: Re: Best Pair to trade with Bitcoin? BTC-USDT or BTC to Altcoins?
Post by: JeffBrad12 on February 05, 2017, 12:45:19 AM
Hi guys, since Bitcoin is Bullish now, may I know what pairs do you trade with Bitcoin? What can you recommend with me.. Is it profitable to trade Bitcoin with USDT or I'll stick trading Bitcoin with Altcoins only. By the way if you trade only using Altcoin what is the best pair?

Thank you so much in advance, dont forget to select your answer in the poll.



Depend on your target, if you're looking for the daily trade and actually USDT - BTC is best for you and the second is ETH - BTC. both are having a lot of the trading volume every day.
If you're looking for the long-term trade it seems like all of them are better.


Title: Re: Best Pair to trade with Bitcoin? BTC-USDT or BTC to Altcoins?
Post by: ArdiPrabowo on February 05, 2017, 01:30:24 AM
if youre write fiat money is good USD not USDT, USDT equal tether coin is very dificult can exchange to fiat money
if pair USD you can withdraw to youre bank account via transwer wire

if you want high profit pair bitcoin/altcoin is the best but high return high profit high risk


Title: Re: Best Pair to trade with Bitcoin? BTC-USDT or BTC to Altcoins?
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on February 05, 2017, 01:51:32 AM
Buy bitcoin with whatever fiat currency you happen to have on you.  That's the best advice I or anyone else could give you.  The more you trade, the more you go broke, and it doesn't matter what pair of altcoins and currencies you use.  I'd say 99.9% of people on this forum are degenerate gamblers who don't know what they're doing when trading.  And if you have to start up a topic to ask what pairs to trade, you're in that percentage.  And I'd say the traders who really know how to trade...they don't post here.


Title: Re: Best Pair to trade with Bitcoin? BTC-USDT or BTC to Altcoins?
Post by: pooya87 on February 05, 2017, 05:20:33 AM
only start trading if you are good at it and have some experience and if not, just buy bitcoin with fiat and keep holding it as your long term investment.

if you have what it takes to be a trader, then trading bitcoin/fiat is a better choice since it is a more reliable market, it is growing big, and it has less manipulation than altcoins and also since it is a rising market your chances of becoming a bagholder are zero.

but if you want more profit in short term and accept the higher risks of altcoins then enter that market. i personally prefer litecoin at the moment and if eth goes to a nice bottom i will start buying.


Title: Re: Best Pair to trade with Bitcoin? BTC-USDT or BTC to Altcoins?
Post by: virasog on February 05, 2017, 05:55:09 AM
if youre write fiat money is good USD not USDT, USDT equal tether coin is very dificult can exchange to fiat money
if pair USD you can withdraw to youre bank account via transwer wire

if you want high profit pair bitcoin/altcoin is the best but high return high profit high risk

Yes, traders of the crypto currency prefers  bitcoin to altcoin trading and that is most profitable. Bitcoin to USD is not much profitable in short term and also it is usually done for the people who needs to convert their bitcoins info USD or Cash. I also do altcoin trading part time and earn reasonable profit monthly.


Title: Re: Best Pair to trade with Bitcoin? BTC-USDT or BTC to Altcoins?
Post by: noictib on February 05, 2017, 06:03:49 AM
Hi guys, since Bitcoin is Bullish now, may I know what pairs do you trade with Bitcoin? What can you recommend with me.. Is it profitable to trade Bitcoin with USDT or I'll stick trading Bitcoin with Altcoins only. By the way if you trade only using Altcoin what is the best pair?

Thank you so much in advance, dont forget to select your answer in the poll.
In my opinion Bitcoin to USD in much impactful for trading because trading is a way through which are getting bitcoin easily , So to get bitcoin easily USD is best , because USD is much popular currency then bitcoin and other fiat .
So here I will prefer for BTC-USD .
But still sometime some people who involved in the bitcoin may prefer for trading without USD , because the transaction charge may be a big matter .
I can give a example suppose I want buy bitcoin from doller but when I will go to make buy bitcoin by USD then at the first step I will got the problem to get USD but from the last some years somewhat btc-usd became much better due to payeer Nettler etc .
All over I will prefer to remain virtual.to virtual trading  .


Title: Re: Best Pair to trade with Bitcoin? BTC-USDT or BTC to Altcoins?
Post by: veleten on February 05, 2017, 06:17:12 AM
if you are looking for a steady profit go for BTC-USD pair-it is more or less stable market,huge liquidity
 and after almost all of the chinese exchanges introduced 0.25% fee,less volatile
if you like to risk and reap high rewards (or face terrible losses) you can try BTC-altcoins pair or altcoins-fiat pairs
in this case your ability to analyze,predict the market will be crucial to success
there are established altcoins like XMR,ETH,DOGE etc. and a whole bunch of new coins that are pumped and dumped on a daily basis
able to predict such pumps and dumps?monitoring the altcoins market cap and volumes closely?experienced trader? - try altcoins-btc/fiat pair


Title: Re: Best Pair to trade with Bitcoin? BTC-USDT or BTC to Altcoins?
Post by: royalfestus on February 05, 2017, 06:22:00 AM
Trading to USD is like keeping the value of my bitcoin but to other altcoins is like investing. some of the altcoin react to bitcoin price increase inversely. Converting to USD is the safest risk when the price of bitcoin is high


Title: Re: Best Pair to trade with Bitcoin? BTC-USDT or BTC to Altcoins?
Post by: mobnepal on February 05, 2017, 06:31:09 AM
I mostly trade only BTC-USDT pair whenever there is price swing and keep my balance in bitcoin. And i think this is better than trying to hedge with altcoins and losing more when bitcoin price get dumped and recover quickly. IF price recover quickly than it can't move altcoin market so you will actually loss more.


Title: Re: Best Pair to trade with Bitcoin? BTC-USDT or BTC to Altcoins?
Post by: jovs on February 05, 2017, 09:05:05 AM
Hi guys, since Bitcoin is Bullish now, may I know what pairs do you trade with Bitcoin? What can you recommend with me.. Is it profitable to trade Bitcoin with USDT or I'll stick trading Bitcoin with Altcoins only. By the way if you trade only using Altcoin what is the best pair?

Thank you so much in advance, dont forget to select your answer in the poll.
I prefer to trade my btc to altcoin pair since it is much profitable yet risky. Since the difference of btc-usd pairs are quite close like only 1 usd of difference, it's not worth it trade with it since it charges tax too. However, it's great for high money trader to trade with usd-btc pairs. Yet, it's quite diffcult to make it because votality can occured in btc rapidly which may cost huge traders to lose alot of money.


Title: Re: Best Pair to trade with Bitcoin? BTC-USDT or BTC to Altcoins?
Post by: ucho1990 on February 05, 2017, 10:53:02 AM
If you don't know where to invest check this arbitrage script http://btcprojects.website/gielda/ here you have all pairs possible on listed exchanges. With profit percent and where is profitable buy and sell. Something like sure bets in gambling :).


Title: Re: Best Pair to trade with Bitcoin? BTC-USDT or BTC to Altcoins?
Post by: Dudeperfect on February 05, 2017, 12:22:55 PM
I think it's less about default trading pairs when it comes to making profits because you never know where the force is actively trading (the high volume trading pairs) so one can earn profits in any active pairs. When I started trading, I used to trade only in BTC/USD but at the same time I was losing opportunities to earn profits in other pairs and since then I do monitor many pairs and trade in some of them in which I see opportunity. It also helps in preventing loss due to pump and dump schemes as we get some experience of chart movements.


Title: Re: Best Pair to trade with Bitcoin? BTC-USDT or BTC to Altcoins?
Post by: topesis on February 05, 2017, 12:43:06 PM
I believe trade against Altcoins is better, you can double your BTC in a day or two trading Altcoins but this would be extremely difficult to do with USDT trade. Just look at the pumped in Pasacalcoin price recently that is how good it can get with Altcoins but the risk is also high because they go down the rate at which they went up


Title: Re: Best Pair to trade with Bitcoin? BTC-USDT or BTC to Altcoins?
Post by: SONG GEET on February 05, 2017, 12:53:05 PM
ETH and BTC price are indirectly proportional to each other so whenever there is dump in bitcoin price, there will be good pump in ETH. So in case of large dump or pump its better to trade on BTC-ETH pair so that you can limit your losses.


Title: Re: Best Pair to trade with Bitcoin? BTC-USDT or BTC to Altcoins?
Post by: googlebtc on February 06, 2017, 06:33:34 AM
BTC-LTC  8)
I believe in litecoin when their prices are falling at a cheap price you can buy it and holding the bag for them, I think you need to hold your litecoin bag in one month to the next to see their price increase


Title: Re: Best Pair to trade with Bitcoin? BTC-USDT or BTC to Altcoins?
Post by: romanlanskoj on February 08, 2017, 01:17:28 AM
BTC - WAVES

Today was BTC- GOLOS

guys, are you still trading only on Poloniex?)


Title: Re: Best Pair to trade with Bitcoin? BTC-USDT or BTC to Altcoins?
Post by: Loganota on February 08, 2017, 04:54:19 AM
It's all about the risks you're willing to take, usually at a lower risk you earn less. Because of the volume the altcoins are more affected by the manipulation than the bitcoin, in addition to the fact that the value of the altcoins is tied to the value of the BTC-USD. The ideal is to always manage the risks and work with the pair that you think is best at the moment.


Title: Re: Best Pair to trade with Bitcoin? BTC-USDT or BTC to Altcoins?
Post by: Zadicar on February 08, 2017, 05:58:29 AM
I would go for both Options since there are times on which each of them has the time on good to trade. BTC-USD would be good and profitable specially on scalping and swinging when its price moves to fast in a matter of days or weeks only.Trading on altcoin is good if you do know which coin has potential.Theres a lot of choices.


Title: Re: Best Pair to trade with Bitcoin? BTC-USDT or BTC to Altcoins?
Post by: talkbitcoin on February 08, 2017, 11:07:20 AM
since USDT is the same as USD price, i say the best option from these group is the first option of trading USDT because trading bitcoin is your best option always.

after that i say all the altcoins can be viable options with a good profit potential as long as you can analyze them and find out if it is a good entrance price or not.

for instance from your list i have my eyes on litecoin and think it will soon start a very big rally like the one we had around its halving and it will be mostly because of the SegWit activation.


Title: Re: Best Pair to trade with Bitcoin? BTC-USDT or BTC to Altcoins?
Post by: digaran on February 08, 2017, 11:29:56 AM
Do you remember 6 months ago, what was the price? someone just by simply holding the coins in wallet until now would have doubled their money up to $200m, when bitcoin is presenting such rare opportunities buy when price drops below $900 which definitely will happen whether we like it or not and wait half a year to double your money. I'm talking about huge investments not like alts that when you buy $500 only by tricks and heavy manipulation you could double that amount lol.
And my modest opinion would be BTC-USDT.


Title: Re: Best Pair to trade with Bitcoin? BTC-USDT or BTC to Altcoins?
Post by: nelson4lov on February 08, 2017, 11:33:44 AM
I believe trade against Altcoins is better, you can double your BTC in a day or two trading Altcoins but this would be extremely difficult to do with USDT trade. Just look at the pumped in Pasacalcoin price recently that is how good it can get with Altcoins but the risk is also high because they go down the rate at which they went up


Like You, I prefer trading BTC—Altcoins Markets because unlike BTC-USD trading, Good altcoins can rake in good profits for you in no time. But It's much more risky.


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....since USDT is the same as USD price, i say the best option from these group is the first option of trading USDT because trading bitcoin is your best option always.



I agree with you. Trading Bitcoin is much more reliable until Bitcoin's Bullishness starts like the one in early January where we saw the price drop more than —$200.


Title: Re: Best Pair to trade with Bitcoin? BTC-USDT or BTC to Altcoins?
Post by: starboyshuvo on February 08, 2017, 11:35:22 AM
Bitcoin to USD -


Title: Re: Best Pair to trade with Bitcoin? BTC-USDT or BTC to Altcoins?
Post by: machinek20 on February 08, 2017, 01:00:46 PM
Both of them is great, but if you got more money, trading btc and usd is better than btc to alt coins, but trading alt coin got more risk than usd because alt coin price is more unpredictable so if you want to earn from alt coin you need to have a lot of experience in trading


Title: Re: Best Pair to trade with Bitcoin? BTC-USDT or BTC to Altcoins?
Post by: maydna on February 08, 2017, 01:09:23 PM
all option in the list is good and fine to trade but for me, i only want to trade with cheap coins and maybe its under 10k or max in 50k for the price because all coins in the list is up to 100k satoshi and i think if we only small budget then we can not make big profit. but if we trade with cheap coins, then our chance is big to make profit when the coins is getting a pump although we don't know when the pump is coming but so far, i think its worth for me.


Title: Re: Best Pair to trade with Bitcoin? BTC-USDT or BTC to Altcoins?
Post by: Kevin77 on February 09, 2017, 07:53:58 PM
all option in the list is good and fine to trade but for me, i only want to trade with cheap coins and maybe its under 10k or max in 50k for the price because all coins in the list is up to 100k satoshi and i think if we only small budget then we can not make big profit. but if we trade with cheap coins, then our chance is big to make profit when the coins is getting a pump although we don't know when the pump is coming but so far, i think its worth for me.
In my personal experience trading bitcoin to USD is better the bitcoin to altcoin, then you will only have to worry about the price of the bitcoin because the USD is always stable unlike altcoins that the you don’t have a fixed rate and they are always changing and require you to keep an eye on the market to know how they change.


Title: Re: Best Pair to trade with Bitcoin? BTC-USDT or BTC to Altcoins?
Post by: wintermeasures on February 16, 2017, 11:35:26 AM
Hi guys, since Bitcoin is Bullish now, may I know what pairs do you trade with Bitcoin? What can you recommend with me.. Is it profitable to trade Bitcoin with USDT or I'll stick trading Bitcoin with Altcoins only. By the way if you trade only using Altcoin what is the best pair?

Thank you so much in advance, dont forget to select your answer in the poll.
According to me it's best to trade Altcoins with the Help of Bitcoin because Altcoins Have a More Chances of Increasing But the Bitcoin is not Much Increase in a Day But a Altcoin can Give to Much Profit Even you can Double your Money By Just Investing in a Altcoin But its important to have knowledge in Trading then you can Make Some Profit......


Title: Re: Best Pair to trade with Bitcoin? BTC-USDT or BTC to Altcoins?
Post by: bitcampaign on February 20, 2017, 01:29:40 AM
just provides Vote for BTC-LTC
I think that you'll find bullish this year, so you can accept my opinion or not it all come back to you that determines a decision to buy and hold the bag, it's just that I give a little advice about litecoin and their future


Title: Re: Best Pair to trade with Bitcoin? BTC-USDT or BTC to Altcoins?
Post by: sulendra12 on February 20, 2017, 02:12:22 AM
BTC-USDT gives you a stable income but it takes long time to get (for short-term trader this isn't a good way). BTC to Altcoins gives you lot of coins to trade (ETH, XMR, New coins), but we have known altcoin's price is bubbling and you can't predict it but if you're lucky you can get huge profit from it yet it gives you huge risk too (for those dump coins).


Title: Re: Best Pair to trade with Bitcoin? BTC-USDT or BTC to Altcoins?
Post by: avatar_kiyoshi on February 20, 2017, 02:27:06 PM
I prefer altcoin for used to arbitrage, but it's need a lot effort and speed. ETH, LTC, XMR is my favorite altcoin.
Trade to USD is profitable too, also for me btc/usd is easier to take analyze than altcoin, honestly I don't have idea to trade altcoin apart arbitrage and join to the community(if there are) to see what the trends.


Title: Re: Best Pair to trade with Bitcoin? BTC-USDT or BTC to Altcoins?
Post by: BrewMaster on February 21, 2017, 04:42:36 PM
for me the best option is BTC-USDT since it is the same as trading bitcoin and USD since it has the same price, and it is a more predictable market at least that is what i feel like.

but other pairs should also be used. for example litecoin and monero from your list are two excellent altcoins for trading with great future and a nice profit potential.


Title: Re: Best Pair to trade with Bitcoin? BTC-USDT or BTC to Altcoins?
Post by: Potato Chips on February 25, 2017, 11:05:47 AM
USDT is backed 1:1 so a single USDT will always be equally to 1 USD. Since it is more stable trading this pair has a lot of potential

to be profitable especially when you're a beginner. I don't always trade USDT. I'm more into ETH and XMR because it has a high

chance of growing compared to USDT that is tied with USD. And you can always earn a huge amount in other altcoins depending

on your capital.


Title: Re: Best Pair to trade with Bitcoin? BTC-USDT or BTC to Altcoins?
Post by: thebatletbet on February 25, 2017, 11:52:35 AM
if rank youre vote, my favorite pair in trade with bitcoin
1 ETH/bitcoin
2 LTC/bitcoin
3 BTC/USDT
4 monero/bitcoin

iam not like ZEC so iam not list in my trade, iam never trade ZEC
but the best trade for me altcoin is very cheap price, pair use bitcoin


Title: Re: Best Pair to trade with Bitcoin? BTC-USDT or BTC to Altcoins?
Post by: Red-Apple on February 25, 2017, 12:10:36 PM
don't try to restrict yourself like this and definitely don't try too hard for finding a relationship between bitcoin price and altcoins. you will be surprised how many times you are going to be wrong.
you can see that for example ethereum has been staying up with all the manipulations, then you see another altcoin that were supposed to go up is going down.

in short, it is best if you stick to bitcoin these times that you can't speculate then come back when things settled down. for example when price of an altcoin was dumped hard you can enter at the bottom and enjoy the rise.


Title: Re: Best Pair to trade with Bitcoin? BTC-USDT or BTC to Altcoins?
Post by: thecodebear on December 05, 2017, 07:34:34 PM
I have always traded in altcoins, but I've always in the end lost Bitcoin when doing this. Altcoin market is too unpredictable. Now that I've bought a good amount of Bitcoin, an amount that I'm pretty comfortable with I figure why risk anymore, right?!

I'll still trade a little bit in altcoins just because yea sure when you happen to pick the right coin you can easily get a nice profit. But I'm gonna move a little new money into USD on an exchange and just start trading Bitcoin/USD. With the goal being making USD rather than making Bitcoin. Making BTC is high risk, high reward. And making USD is low reward, BUT its essentially zero risk. No matter where I buy in I know I will be able to sell for higher, cuz it's BTC we are talking about, not some random altcoin against BTC. Should be fun just to trade with basically zero risk. Just try to maximize profits even though the profits won't be that big. Will be a lot less nerve wracking than trading alts.