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Title: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: RawDog on February 08, 2017, 12:37:33 AM
Look at his stupid argument to promote himself as inventor of Bitcoin

https://i.imgur.com/t470DxQ.png

Everyone knows Craig Wright is the actual inventor and owner of Bitcoin.


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: asdalani on February 08, 2017, 01:00:01 AM
So much people are pretending to be "Satoshi Nakamoto" it's kind of annoying already.


That is all I am going to say in this thread.


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: bitcampaign on February 08, 2017, 01:15:34 AM
so what is important if we really find satoshi Nakamoto, what it would endanger her or harm us here, I think he's a smart guy and certainly satoshi nakamoto will never admit he is the inventor of bitcoin


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: unamis76 on February 08, 2017, 01:30:23 AM
I guess he sin't saying any lie, so... Doesn't demerit Satoshi or increase his merit in any way. Especially being a Twitter bio... :D


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: Xester on February 08, 2017, 02:13:46 AM
Adam Back just wanted to have a publicity so he will be known in the bitcoin industry. He isn't the inventor of bitcoin and it is very clear that he is lying and not serious about giving evidence to back-up his claims. Another thing Craig Wright is not satoshi nakamoto and he is just another fake trying to claim that he invented bitcoin.


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: Dudeperfect on February 08, 2017, 02:26:18 AM
As I said before, We are going to have at least 10+ candidates claiming to be Real satoshi but the real satoshi would never reveal his identity in such way. The only way to identify the real identity of satoshi is a verified signature from the wallet address which was used to claim early mining rewards. If he has lost the access to that wallet then it is difficult to prove his identity even for real satoshi.


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: Vaskiy on February 08, 2017, 02:31:07 AM
Everyone can claim that they are the creators of bitcoin. The reality gets hidden till Satoshi expose the truth. Till that let we too be the creator of bitcoin, because none has the proof to confirm.


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: alani123 on February 08, 2017, 02:33:28 AM
Many people (that aren't Adam Back) have been praising him for hashcash and saying the same thing. I don't see anything bad with him saying this. Using work that isn't your own as a claim to fame isn't exactly honorable but he isn't lying either. No problem with him saying this.


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: Shiroslullaby on February 08, 2017, 02:40:21 AM
He is only saying he is inverntor of Hashcash so I dont see anything wrong with that part.
Now, if Hashcash and Bitcoin are exactly the same thing minus the inflation control is up for debate possibly.
I don't know the technical aspects of either well enough to make an argument there.


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: Sundark on February 08, 2017, 02:43:47 AM
Unlike some other individuals (Craig, I am talking about you) Adam Back is not claiming directly that he invented bitcoin.
Technically he is not wrong about hashcash, he invented the system more than 20 years ago.
Bitcoin is using hashcash as part of its mining algorithm. So what is the problem here?


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: Dudeperfect on February 08, 2017, 03:00:34 AM
As I said before, We are going to have at least 10+ candidates claiming to be Real satoshi but the real satoshi would never reveal his identity in such way. The only way to identify the real identity of satoshi is a verified signature from the wallet address which was used to claim early mining rewards. If he has lost the access to that wallet then it is difficult to prove his identity even for real satoshi.
He has multiple multiple wallets, should be easy even if some are lost.

In such case, I think we should ask for a signed message from any of his wallet address. If we ask for signed message from address even for account ownership then Satoshi’s identity is the whole new episode. I can’t understand why the candidates claiming to be Satoshi are not coming up with such concrete evidence if they think that they are real satoshi? A simple signed message would make everyone believe that XYZ is real satoshi.


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: avikz on February 08, 2017, 03:23:39 AM
Actually there are two laughable elements in your post..First is definitely Adam. Lately so many people is claiming himself as Satoshi Nakamoto which is hilarious and Adam is no exception. They are just trying to draw mass attention. But they are unaware that it could land him to jail.

Second element is that you claim Mr. Wright is the inventor of bitcoin. Till date we didn't see any solid proof that honors him with the title of the creator of bitcoin. It is just another claim but stronger than others. My suggestion is that, leave Mr. Nakamoto in peace and enjoy the power of bitcoin. Let Mr. Nakamoto live in peace for the rest of his life and lets not disturb him in any way.   


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: Zadicar on February 08, 2017, 05:06:58 AM
So much people are pretending to be "Satoshi Nakamoto" it's kind of annoying already.


That is all I am going to say in this thread.
I agree on what you have said previously i saw a thread claiming that hes the creator of bitcoin and now i read again these kind of such shit claims. I dont know whats the thing on their minds which they are striving to claim bitcoin as their creation.Satoshi will be the only one.


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: audaciousbeing on February 08, 2017, 06:18:00 AM
Anyone can think about anything or whoever at least that right is still available to all of us pending the time government might say its a sin to think. Even me I can think I am the inventor of Qtum since I am wearing its signature. The way the controversy about Satoshi is going these days, I am sure that even if Satoshi himself should come out he will do more than just announcement to say he is the real one because we have had more than enough Satoshis.


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: Kakmakr on February 08, 2017, 06:19:01 AM
Give him credit, he did come up with hashcash first and that might have inspired Satoshi to improve this technology to create Bitcoin. Adam might even have worked with Satoshi on the project. One thing I definitely know is, CW is not Satoshi, how can a sheep shagger be Satoshi. ^smile^

Just when I thought all of us were Satoshi. ^hmmmmmm^


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: Newmine on February 08, 2017, 06:19:07 AM
Actually there are two laughable elements in your post..First is definitely Adam. Lately so many people is claiming himself as Satoshi Nakamoto which is hilarious and Adam is no exception. They are just trying to draw mass attention. But they are unaware that it could land him to jail.

Second element is that you claim Mr. Wright is the inventor of bitcoin. Till date we didn't see any solid proof that honors him with the title of the creator of bitcoin. It is just another claim but stronger than others. My suggestion is that, leave Mr. Nakamoto in peace and enjoy the power of bitcoin. Let Mr. Nakamoto live in peace for the rest of his life and lets not disturb him in any way.   
Besides Craig Wright, who is claiming themselves to be Satoshi Nakamoto? I haven't seen these claims. I have seen others claiming they think someone else is, but not self claims.


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: topesis on February 08, 2017, 07:28:19 AM
Look at his stupid argument to promote himself as inventor of Bitcoin

https://i.imgur.com/t470DxQ.png

Everyone knows Craig Wright is the actual inventor and owner of Bitcoin.

SO you think Adam Back is not but Craig Wright invested Bitcoin, funny isn't it. I'm very sure both are not Satoshi. If Craig Wright his he would have done what he was told to do, to proof his claim.


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: Zadicar on February 08, 2017, 07:41:25 AM
Look at his stupid argument to promote himself as inventor of Bitcoin

https://i.imgur.com/t470DxQ.png

Everyone knows Craig Wright is the actual inventor and owner of Bitcoin.

SO you think Adam Back is not but Craig Wright invested Bitcoin, funny isn't it. I'm very sure both are not Satoshi. If Craig Wright his he would have done what he was told to do, to proof his claim.
None of those two guys who invented bitcoin i dont know whats on their minds and what they could get on claiming such false informations to public.Anyone could claim that they are satoshi nakamoto. Even the creator himself didnt tend to reveal himself on public because of privacy reasons and also on security of his life.


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: Luviasst on February 08, 2017, 07:42:19 AM
what a ashol


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: Juggy777 on February 08, 2017, 07:42:34 AM
Why does this kind of thread keep on pooping every now and then? Not the man op claims or Craig is satoshi and it's better to get on with life rather than argue. No one has any solid proof it's just one words. They are just saying big and not matching proof. I think this forum really should ban this question until someone gets major proof. There a bigger issue that you should look at like the unconfirmed transactions. I don't think we will ever know who created Bitcoin and that's how it was meant to be.


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: Amph on February 08, 2017, 07:43:04 AM
this whole claiming himself to be satoshi is just to ride the wave to be notorious and get rich, i guess if he was really satoshi he would not need to go out and claim that he is satoshi

real satoshi would not reveal his identity he is rich already he don't need exposure


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: Gleb Gamow on February 08, 2017, 08:01:02 AM
And Marshall Long thinks knows that he invented the pyramid [in 2009, the same year he claimed to have gotten involved in Bitcoin while working at some spray booth company in Dallas prior to teaching college courses).


https://i.imgur.com/TpwQEgq.png
The Szabo clasped hands facepalm.


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: AGD on February 08, 2017, 09:03:41 AM
From http://www.hashcash.org/bitcoin/


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Note hashcash is just the mining function used by bitcoin. Bitcoin, which is the work of the psuedonymous Satoshi Nakamoto, is an extremely clever innovation and invention comprising multiple features and cutting edge new concepts, not fully realised in any previous electronic cash scheme. Bitcoin represents a leap forward in electronic cash technology demonstrating for the first time that a respendable, distributed, virtual scarcity based system could be built.


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: AGD on February 08, 2017, 09:11:57 AM
what a ashol

YEAH! Whot an dunky! Him haz no clu abot ourz Bitcoin, he? Fackz him.


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: 20kevin20 on February 08, 2017, 09:21:41 AM
And Marshall Long thinks knows that he invented the pyramid [in 2009, the same year he claimed to have gotten involved in Bitcoin while working at some spray booth company in Dallas prior to teaching college courses).


https://i.imgur.com/TpwQEgq.png
The Szabo clasped hands facepalm.

And we want to know who invented Bitcoin.... We will find out for sure :D

There are too many people doing it just for sarcasm or for trolling, and I don't trust any of them because I can write that I am the Bitcoin creator too and without proof nobody can believe it.


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: JayJuanGee on February 08, 2017, 09:35:27 AM
Look at his stupid argument to promote himself as inventor of Bitcoin

https://i.imgur.com/t470DxQ.png

Everyone knows Craig Wright is the actual inventor and owner of Bitcoin.

SO you think Adam Back is not but Craig Wright invested Bitcoin, funny isn't it. I'm very sure both are not Satoshi. If Craig Wright his he would have done what he was told to do, to proof his claim.
None of those two guys who invented bitcoin i dont know whats on their minds and what they could get on claiming such false informations to public.Anyone could claim that they are satoshi nakamoto. Even the creator himself didnt tend to reveal himself on public because of privacy reasons and also on security of his life.


These are apples and oranges.

Craig wright is an obvious fraud and scam. 

If you ever heard him talk, he comes off as a pompous ass.  You recall how much credibility Gavin Andressen lost because he backed up a fraudster.

Adam Back, on the other hand, seems to be marketing his skills and his background, which seems to be extensively verified in the community (and he was even cited in the whitepaper by satoshi)

Whether Back is bragging or not might be another story, but he is neither lying about his background nor is he actually claiming to be Satoshi.



Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: Blawpaw on February 08, 2017, 12:05:34 PM
Anyone can say they are the true inventor of Bitcoin from what it seems, but everyone knows he will never find out who was the real creator.


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: digaran on February 08, 2017, 12:39:32 PM
Sorry Raw but first I had to go to the bathroom when I saw "OWNER OF BITCOIN" and now that I'm back lets talk serious, Satoshi only owns his pants and nearly a million bitcoins other than that he donated his invention to the world when he uploaded the source code to the public.
I'm going to play along, imagine he is the real Satoshi, now what? do we have to bow down or something?


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: BillyBobZorton on February 08, 2017, 12:50:30 PM
Look at his stupid argument to promote himself as inventor of Bitcoin

https://i.imgur.com/t470DxQ.png

Adam Back is a realistic proponent for a satoshi nakamoto. It's clear that satoshi was very influenced by Adam Back. Adam Back is mentioned in the bitcoin whitepaper so his description of hashcash is not that far fetched.

Satoshi is most likely someone in the core dev team or a couple of them since they are the best coders in the game. Some of them are actually better than satoshi.

Everyone knows Craig Wright is the actual inventor and owner of Bitcoin.




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Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: Text on February 08, 2017, 01:30:59 PM
This is not a big deal anymore, anyone on the internet can say a lie and claim even they are not. I don't believe unless he shows up the evidence that he is truly what he is claiming... I think the creator or inventor of bitcoin will remain unknown for his privacy and security indeed.


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: franky1 on February 08, 2017, 01:36:38 PM
adam backs involvement in bitcoins invention is the same as a cavemans involvement in the combustion engine.
yea a caveman invented fire, and without fire a combustion engine cannot work.

but adam backs hashcash is DIFFERENT to the ACTUAL PoW bitcoin uses.
yes there was some inspiration. but adam back was not directly involved in coding bitcoin in 2008-2013,

adam back is just playing the caveman card by trying to get fame for something losely connected to him

all adam back wants to do is beat his own chest to make people think he is worth investing $90m dollars in
the thing is adam back is not finding it easy to repay investors. and those are getting antsy about repayments and plans of commercialising things like elements/bitcoin to get some funds back.



Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: nelson4lov on February 08, 2017, 01:38:22 PM
There's absolutely no need trying hard to know Satoshi's identity. Dude doesn't want the publicity and fame. If he wanted us to know about him, He would have done so by now. Believe it or not, Neither Adam Black or Craig Wright are satoshi.  Soon, A new guy will pop up claiming to be satoshi again. This story goes on and on.


Anyone can say they are the true inventor of Bitcoin from what it seems, but everyone knows he will never find out who was the real creator.


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: jbreher on February 08, 2017, 01:40:57 PM
Now, if Hashcash and Bitcoin are exactly the same thing minus the inflation control is up for debate possibly.

Not. Even. Close.

Adam Back invented hashcash? Sure. And indeed, hashcash was a significant step forward. But to claim that Bitcoin is nothing but hashcash with inflation control is an absurd overreach. To make this claim is to ignore the central game theoretic advance of coupling reward with validation. You know - the significant breakthrough achieved by Satoshi.

You'd think someone who developed such an important innovation would be happy to stand on his merits. Without resorting to dishonest used car salesman levels of marketing manipulation. It belies an insecurity in his station in life (which from the outside already looks quite elevated, ffs).

Inasmuch as we don't yet know who Satoshi was, Adam would be a plausible candidate. Improbable, but plausible. At least he has not made this claim. But in the meantime, he should be publicly shamed for this arrogant unjustifiable claim.


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: Pettuh4 on February 08, 2017, 01:52:55 PM
Look at his stupid argument to promote himself as inventor of Bitcoin

https://i.imgur.com/t470DxQ.png

Everyone knows Craig Wright is the actual inventor and owner of Bitcoin.

This nonsense must stop!!! When are these fame-whores going to quit their aggression for fame and let us be? Is he different from the other fakes? Aren't they telling us the same story? I want someone to come out and perform a transaction from Satoshi's stick of coins and we'd believe him.. Simple!!!


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: Come-from-Beyond on February 08, 2017, 01:57:08 PM
Look at his stupid argument to promote himself as inventor of Bitcoin...

Oh, a famous trolling phisher is back. Was you released or it's just spring fever? How is your "Look-you-private-key-here" venture, how many noobs have you scammed so far?


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: requester on February 08, 2017, 04:21:56 PM
How pity of him. How could one dress as founder of bitcoin. We know Satoshi is the founder of bitcoin and if he really wannted to expose himself then he won't hide identity. May be he have some plan for future so he had hidden his identity.


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: BiTZeD on February 08, 2017, 04:35:44 PM
Anyone that is claiming to be Satoshi is not Satoshi, this is as simple as this. So you can know that he is not the inventor of Bitcoin. But he can be however be the inspirator of Bitcoin.


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: swogerino on February 08, 2017, 04:54:07 PM
Anyone that is claiming to be Satoshi is not Satoshi, this is as simple as this. So you can know that he is not the inventor of Bitcoin. But he can be however be the inspirator of Bitcoin.
Kinds of reminds me of the episode of Gotham I was watching the other day.
I am Jerome!  ;D


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: franky1 on February 08, 2017, 07:21:11 PM
And all of his attempts to find ways to generate revenue is really putting a tremendous burden on the network.  The unnecessary crippling of the transaction throughput in an attempt to drive demand for Lightning has driven away so many companies and investors.

It is deplorable what Blockstream and the Core programmers have done in their own interests.  Even if they are superior cryptographers, their beliefs that they should build an add-on system to divert fees from mining and into their own pockets means they are simply too corrupt to be at the core of blockchain.  We need to get BU going now.  

we needs MANY teams, not just 2.
we need these teams to communicate together and find consensus. not shout scare stories where cores unpaid blockstream interns shout to other teams to split off. while playing the victim card 'that other teams might split off' (facepalm)

we need to stop gmaxwell from being the moderator of the technical discussions, irc, mailinglist and githubs. and be more open. less controlled.

otherwise we end up with the empty argument of. 'if core doesnt code something, it means no one can have it. so by not having the code available means they see no one using it.. which they then say no one needs it or desires it, because there is no stats of utility' which has been a self fulfilling prophecy mindset those fools have had for a couple years.

much like dont offer oliver twist a bowl of food and he wont ask for another. thus they think they have cured starvation, by not feeding the poor

this can only be done if people start caring about BITCOIN. and not the CEO of the banker funded company blockstream and his CTO business partner


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: IamNotAnonymous on February 08, 2017, 07:39:29 PM
As I said before, We are going to have at least 10+ candidates claiming to be Real satoshi but the real satoshi would never reveal his identity in such way. The only way to identify the real identity of satoshi is a verified signature from the wallet address which was used to claim early mining rewards. If he has lost the access to that wallet then it is difficult to prove his identity even for real satoshi.

Real Satoshi Nakamoto has opened his 'Right Eye'. He said, "behold ! many will come in my name just to sit on my Bitcoin Throne to hope to get a Nobel Prize on Economic Science; but fear not ! I am watching. Any one has rights to play a role in my Bitcoin and Blockchain Drama."


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: IamNotAnonymous on February 08, 2017, 07:45:01 PM
Everyone can claim that they are the creators of bitcoin. The reality gets hidden till Satoshi expose the truth. Till that let we too be the creator of bitcoin, because none has the proof to confirm.

You are right ! Only Satoshi Nakamoto has the genuine proof. 


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: spazzdla on February 08, 2017, 08:26:36 PM
Satoshi's white paper mentions hashcash does it not... ?


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: RawDog on February 08, 2017, 08:29:05 PM
Satoshi's white paper mentions hashcash does it not... ?

It mentions the Magna Carta too but that doesn't make King John Jesus Christ (or Muhammed - depending upon your personal point of view). 

Is it your assertion that since the white paper mentions hashcash that Adam Back is the true inventor of Bitcoin?


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: franky1 on February 08, 2017, 08:33:39 PM
Satoshi's white paper mentions hashcash does it not... ?

thing is that hashcash was inspired by
S. Haber, W.S. Stornetta

and also satoshi quoted
S. Haber, W.S. Stornetta

so, that makes adam back even more meaningless part of bitcoin, bcause most of the inspiration was from
S. Haber, W.S. Stornetta not adam back


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: RawDog on February 08, 2017, 09:57:47 PM
Satoshi's white paper mentions hashcash does it not... ?

thing is that hashcash was inspired by
S. Haber, W.S. Stornetta

and also satoshi quoted
S. Haber, W.S. Stornetta

so, that makes adam back even more meaningless part of bitcoin, bcause most of the inspiration was from
S. Haber, W.S. Stornetta not adam back
It doesn't take a genius to understand that Adam Back is a wanker.  Facts are facts. 



Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: Gleb Gamow on February 08, 2017, 10:21:53 PM
FWIW, I personally know the dude  ;) who penned the entire Bitcoin White Paper in exactly 256 tweets: https://twitter.com/FirstWhitePaper

Pretty amazin', eh?


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: RawDog on February 09, 2017, 12:33:47 AM
FWIW, I personally know the dude  ;) who penned the entire Bitcoin White Paper in exactly 256 tweets: https://twitter.com/FirstWhitePaper

Pretty amazin', eh?
Living in your mom's basement saves you tons of money so much that you don't need a job and you have tons of time to make crazy assed twitter accounts that reprint white papers.  Fucking brilliant.  Does she ever see you flitting about in your pink tutu and when she does, does she find it unusual and somewhat strange?  Is your mother proud of you Bruno?


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: QuestionAuthority on February 09, 2017, 03:07:05 AM
Adam Back and Hal Finney together are Satoshi. Nothing Adam back said is false. You may be a butt hurt little twat about the truth but it's still the truth.

Satoshi even gives Adam Back credit for the POW system bitcoin uses in the whitepaper. Of course, you wouldn't know that because dildos can't read.


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: Gleb Gamow on February 09, 2017, 03:43:25 AM
FWIW, I personally know the dude  ;) who penned the entire Bitcoin White Paper in exactly 256 tweets: https://twitter.com/FirstWhitePaper

Pretty amazin', eh?
Living in your mom's basement saves you tons of money so much that you don't need a job and you have tons of time to make crazy assed twitter accounts that reprint white papers.  Fucking brilliant.  Does she ever see you flitting about in your pink tutu and when she does, does she find it unusual and somewhat strange?  Is your mother proud of you Bruno?

As I mentioned before, mom and dad are both dead, thus impossible for her to do as you described or me fuck her in her ass as you've stated earlier, for they're now occupying adjoining urns.

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Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: deadsilent on February 09, 2017, 04:32:45 AM
Craig Wright, John Nash, Hal Finney and now Adam Back. Another candidate for this guessing games. My head is spinning from confusion. Do they have some proofs to prove that they are Satoshi Nakamoto? I dont see that they are directly claiming that they are Satoshi Nakamoto. This might be just a fantasy of the op.


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: jbreher on February 09, 2017, 04:51:34 AM
Adam Back and Hal Finney together are Satoshi.

Admittedly plausible, but highly improbable.

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Nothing Adam back said is false.

You must have never been in the position of sifting through resumes to fill a SW Engineering slot. 'Bitcoin is nothing but hashcash with inflation control' is the type of pompous exaggeration that sends your submission straight to the circular file.


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: Scorpion on February 09, 2017, 05:11:02 AM
I think you gotta give him a little credit for doing HashCash. He's not claiming to be Satoshi or the inventor of Bitcoin. But who knows really if Satoshi himself was inspired by thator other things prior to writing his white paper.


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: JayJuanGee on February 09, 2017, 07:02:37 AM
I think you gotta give him a little credit for doing HashCash. He's not claiming to be Satoshi or the inventor of Bitcoin. But who knows really if Satoshi himself was inspired by thator other things prior to writing his white paper.

Since Satoshi quoted Adam Back in the white paper, we know that Adam Back's work had some influence and/or inspiration on Satoshi


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: pinkflower on February 09, 2017, 07:19:30 AM
Lots of hate causing us to make up things in here. So what if hes trying to get some credit for his work. Without Hashcash that Adam Back invented there would be no Bitcoins which we all love to hold and sell and lose. People like him made something that benefited us all. Nothing we say will change that. They are untouchable.


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: Gleb Gamow on February 09, 2017, 07:24:48 AM
I think you gotta give him a little credit for doing HashCash. He's not claiming to be Satoshi or the inventor of Bitcoin. But who knows really if Satoshi himself was inspired by thator other things prior to writing his white paper.

Since Satoshi quoted Adam Back in the white paper, we know that Adam Back's work had some influence and/or inspiration on Satoshi

Whatever you do, don't tell Vlad that I left this here: https://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/17/business/decoding-the-enigma-of-satoshi-nakamoto-and-the-birth-of-bitcoin.html?_r=0

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After Mr. Szabo led the company in a new direction, it was renamed Mirror (https://mirrorx.com/), and it recently raised $12.5 million from several prominent venture capitalists, these people said. The company declined to comment for this article.


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: jbreher on February 09, 2017, 12:58:48 PM
I think you gotta give him a little credit for doing HashCash.

I do. As I point out above, hashcash was a significant innovation. That's why it is particularly galling - his position is assured without overreaching for this specious claim.


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: calkob on February 09, 2017, 01:55:22 PM
So what, his statement is true, and Nakamoto referenced him in the Bitcoin white paper ??? you moron  ::)


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: Mbokani on February 09, 2017, 02:13:52 PM
adam backs involvement in bitcoins invention is the same as a cavemans involvement in the combustion engine.
yea a caveman invented fire, and without fire a combustion engine cannot work.
It is one of the best example you can give :D a combustion engine would not have being possible if not for the invention of fire, does it really matter to the present bitcoin echo system by knowing the real inventor of bitcoin but the movement of coins owned by the inventor does make some ripples .


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: Dudeperfect on February 10, 2017, 04:46:28 AM
As I said before, We are going to have at least 10+ candidates claiming to be Real satoshi but the real satoshi would never reveal his identity in such way. The only way to identify the real identity of satoshi is a verified signature from the wallet address which was used to claim early mining rewards. If he has lost the access to that wallet then it is difficult to prove his identity even for real satoshi.

Real Satoshi Nakamoto has opened his 'Right Eye'. He said, "behold ! many will come in my name just to sit on my Bitcoin Throne to hope to get a Nobel Prize on Economic Science; but fear not ! I am watching. Any one has rights to play a role in my Bitcoin and Blockchain Drama."

Wow, can you please quote reference links? I am not sure if we are going to recognise real satoshi in next five years or not but I am damn sure that the case is going to be more and more interesting day by day. I suspect that Satoshi is watching us from the shadow and he must be enjoying the scene.


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: alani123 on February 10, 2017, 10:31:47 AM
What if rawdog is really Satoshi. That's why he's so mad some old dude wants to get credit from his work.
That'd really be kinda weird. I mean' the biggest troll and shit talker in this forum being the actual inventor of bitcoin? I'm sure Sardou would have gone around proudly announcing whatever he's made instead of going rogue.


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: IamNotAnonymous on February 10, 2017, 10:41:18 AM
As I said before, We are going to have at least 10+ candidates claiming to be Real satoshi but the real satoshi would never reveal his identity in such way. The only way to identify the real identity of satoshi is a verified signature from the wallet address which was used to claim early mining rewards. If he has lost the access to that wallet then it is difficult to prove his identity even for real satoshi.

Real Satoshi Nakamoto has opened his 'Right Eye'. He said, "behold ! many will come in my name just to sit on my Bitcoin Throne to hope to get a Nobel Prize on Economic Science; but fear not ! I am watching. Any one has rights to play a role in my Bitcoin and Blockchain Drama."

Wow, can you please quote reference links? I am not sure if we are going to recognise real satoshi in next five years or not but I am damn sure that the case is going to be more and more interesting day by day. I suspect that Satoshi is watching us from the shadow and he must be enjoying the scene.

Satoshi Nakamoto the Moniker is reading every thing you all are debating about him. You are right he has opened his 'Right Eye' and watching from the shadow.


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: hajimasan on February 10, 2017, 10:53:21 AM
How funny his photo is. looks like scammer and person full with characters which people don't like. Dear ADAM you can take a cup of tea and rest in your living room if you don't want to get shame. Simple without any prove don't put the mask of Satoshi sir.


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: Gleb Gamow on February 10, 2017, 05:25:36 PM
How funny his photo is. looks like scammer and person full with characters which people don't like. Dear ADAM you can take a cup of tea and rest in your living room if you don't want to get shame. Simple without any prove don't put the mask of Satoshi sir.

Did your mother drop you as a baby? If you lack formal education and lack a good family background then I guess we should understand why you make retarded comments.

Retarded or not, dude made money with his post while you and I did not. Note to self: Purchase book How to be a Retard for Idiots.


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: takingbacksunday on February 10, 2017, 05:28:31 PM
satoshi is definitely laughing his ass of right now ;D ;D


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: JayJuanGee on February 10, 2017, 05:30:22 PM
satoshi is definitely laughing his ass of right now ;D ;D

I thought that the odds were pretty great that Satoshi is dead.

So this thread is really about Adam Back, and maybe tangentially about making a comparison of the Adam Back representation to those of Craig Wright?


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: RodeoX on February 10, 2017, 05:33:27 PM
During a press conference Mr. Black ripped off a mask reveling himself to be Craig Wright. He then ripped off that mask and proved he is Mark Karpeles!


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: Gleb Gamow on February 10, 2017, 05:35:22 PM
During a press conference Mr. Black ripped off a mask reveling himself to be Craig Wright. He then ripped off that mask and proved he is Mark Karpeles!

Hey, RodeoX, did he do such during an eight-second ride during the playing of a Chris LeDoux song?  :-*


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: swogerino on February 10, 2017, 05:35:55 PM
During a press conference Mr. Black ripped off a mask reveling himself to be Craig Wright. He then ripped off that mask and proved he is Mark Karpeles!
I would pay if someone made an animated gif of that. ;D

Even a meme! :D I would buy that for a dollar! ;D


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: Gleb Gamow on February 10, 2017, 05:39:27 PM
During a press conference Mr. Black ripped off a mask reveling himself to be Craig Wright. He then ripped off that mask and proved he is Mark Karpeles!
I would pay if someone made an animated gif of that. ;D

Even a meme! :D I would buy that for a dollar! ;D

Something like this?

https://i.imgur.com/P7OJdOk.gif

Is there a bonus if I include RawDog?


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: target on February 10, 2017, 05:46:39 PM
He got guts for claiming like Craig. Proving is totally different story, even just a sign message can be a serious threat to all. So its not going to help him whether he can prove he is Satoshi or not.  If someone think he is Satoshi, its better to just shut his mouth and be grateful that he though he is satoshi.

During a press conference Mr. Black ripped off a mask reveling himself to be Craig Wright. He then ripped off that mask and proved he is Mark Karpeles!
I would pay if someone made an animated gif of that. ;D

Even a meme! :D I would buy that for a dollar! ;D

That would be fun to see.


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: swogerino on February 10, 2017, 05:48:40 PM
During a press conference Mr. Black ripped off a mask reveling himself to be Craig Wright. He then ripped off that mask and proved he is Mark Karpeles!
I would pay if someone made an animated gif of that. ;D

Even a meme! :D I would buy that for a dollar! ;D

Something like this?

https://i.imgur.com/P7OJdOk.gif

Is there a bonus if I include RawDog?
That deserves half a dollar.

I was expecting the actual ripping off the masks and the reveal.
Sort of like a drama filled episode off a telemondo soap opera. ;D


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: RawDog on February 10, 2017, 05:49:34 PM
Is there a bonus if I include RawDog?
You can leave me out of this - ya fag. Go pick on someone else.


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: Gleb Gamow on February 10, 2017, 05:55:12 PM
Is there a bonus if I include RawDog?
You can leave me out of this - ya fag. Go pick on someone else.

Having fun at your expense in not picking on you, dude.


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: franky1 on February 10, 2017, 06:25:15 PM
just for fun

https://i.imgflip.com/1jdrrp.gif

dont knit pick quality. it was a 1 minute creation
enjoy


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: swogerino on February 10, 2017, 06:27:09 PM
 :D

Cool. Where to send you the dollar? ;D


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: franky1 on February 10, 2017, 06:28:28 PM
:D

Cool. Where to send you the dollar? ;D

dont need the dollar. keep it


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: swogerino on February 10, 2017, 06:30:35 PM
:D

Cool. Where to send you the dollar? ;D

dont need the dollar. keep it
Okay.
Thanks for the laugh though! :)


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: franky1 on February 10, 2017, 06:42:18 PM
Who doesn't need a dollar?  Are you Satoshi?

dollar? lol
1. im no yank
2. fiat is for sheep
3. refer to 2 and repeat until understand why we prefer bitcoin


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: RodeoX on February 10, 2017, 06:51:26 PM
just for fun

https://i.imgflip.com/1jdrrp.gif

dont knit pick quality. it was a 1 minute creation
enjoy
[spit_take]Ha ha  :D [/spit_take]


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: RawDog on February 10, 2017, 06:51:52 PM
Who doesn't need a dollar?  Are you Satoshi?

dollar? lol
1. im no yank
2. fiat is for sheep
3. refer to 2 and repeat until understand why we prefer bitcoin
You didn't answer the question.  Are you avoiding something intentionally?


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: swogerino on February 10, 2017, 06:55:03 PM
Who doesn't need a dollar?  Are you Satoshi?

dollar? lol
1. im no yank
2. fiat is for sheep
3. refer to 2 and repeat until understand why we prefer bitcoin
You didn't answer the question.  Are you avoiding something intentionally?
Just to quell anymore bickering. I can send as bitcoin just to support the efforts of everybody who contribute to the cause we are all here for.
Am I correct in this argument?
If not then I will shut up now. ;)


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: RawDog on February 10, 2017, 07:05:10 PM
Who doesn't need a dollar?  Are you Satoshi?

dollar? lol
1. im no yank
2. fiat is for sheep
3. refer to 2 and repeat until understand why we prefer bitcoin
You didn't answer the question.  Are you avoiding something intentionally?
Just to quell anymore bickering. I can send as bitcoin just to support the efforts of everybody who contribute to the cause we are all here for.
Am I correct in this argument?
If not then I will shut up now. ;)
OK - I agree.  Please kick me down a buck: 1FuckYouc6zrtHbnqcHdhrSVhcxgpJgfds


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: franky1 on February 10, 2017, 07:06:47 PM
If not then I will shut up now. ;)

relax its all fine.
i understand rawdogs sense of humour. he is just having a laugh


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: swogerino on February 10, 2017, 07:08:19 PM
If not then I will shut up now. ;)

relax its all fine.
i understand rawdogs sense of humour. he is just having a laugh
I know. ::)

I don't think I will be sending anything to that vanity address.
It is quite apparent what you trying to say. :-X


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: IamNotAnonymous on February 10, 2017, 07:19:18 PM
So much people are pretending to be "Satoshi Nakamoto" it's kind of annoying already.


That is all I am going to say in this thread.

No, No body has really claimed to be Satoshi. Not even double Dr. Dr. Craig Wright. He could not say to BBC, that he is Satoshi Nakamoto but he answer the question avoiding saying, yeeeeeeeees I was the main hesitantly. If he could response saying yes! I am Satoshi Nakamoto; I invented the Bitcoin and Blockchain technology. Therefore he is just Craigitoshi Makamoto. The real Satoshi was laughing waching the news infront of me.


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: RawDog on February 10, 2017, 07:29:07 PM
I can send as bitcoin just to support the efforts of everybody who contribute to the cause we are all here for.

So, you won't be sending bitcoin to me after promising to do that?  I should hit your reputation with a -1


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: Gleb Gamow on February 10, 2017, 07:54:42 PM
I can send as bitcoin just to support the efforts of everybody who contribute to the cause we are all here for.

So, you won't be sending bitcoin to me after promising to do that?  I should hit your reputation with a -1

Or resort to your chestnut in accusing him of fucking his mother's ass.


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: swogerino on February 10, 2017, 08:15:08 PM
I can send as bitcoin just to support the efforts of everybody who contribute to the cause we are all here for.

So, you won't be sending bitcoin to me after promising to do that?  I should hit your reputation with a -1

Or resort to your chestnut in accusing him of fucking his mother's ass.
No need for any of that.
Sent it as a gesture so to speak.
https://blockchain.info/tx/07c6d09d61acd0797e702d914bb8a330df763c5c39a54b35325972bb350a5cb2

Funny though.
1FuckYouc6zrtHbnqcHdhrSVhcxgpJgfds 0.002 BTC
Unable to decode output address

From the send before mine.



Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: RawDog on February 10, 2017, 09:48:58 PM
Or resort to your chestnut in accusing him of fucking his mother's ass.
No need for any of that.
Sent it as a gesture so to speak.
https://blockchain.info/tx/07c6d09d61acd0797e702d914bb8a330df763c5c39a54b35325972bb350a5cb2
Thanks for the buck!!!  :)  A man of his word.  Hard to find around here. 


Gleb - you are filthy pig of a very high order.  I have no information whatever about what this guy is fucking and I have no interest in that at all.  Your thinking has serious defects and you should consider whether mental health medicine might help.


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: robelneo on February 11, 2017, 12:42:24 AM
This is not the right time to for anybody to claim that he is Nakamoto and it will not have an impact at all,but if he is the real Nakamoto then he still has access to those blocks he mine,if anybody can move that ,then we can conclude that he is the real one ,it's been years that it's been untouch.


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: Decoded on February 11, 2017, 12:57:32 AM
Obviously a guy looking for a job and trying to make himself seem better than he actually is. Hashcash is not Bitcoin without inflation control, it was a basic, primitive idea utilising distributed Proof of Work.


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: Gleb Gamow on February 11, 2017, 02:45:56 AM
Or resort to your chestnut in accusing him of fucking his mother's ass.
No need for any of that.
Sent it as a gesture so to speak.
https://blockchain.info/tx/07c6d09d61acd0797e702d914bb8a330df763c5c39a54b35325972bb350a5cb2
Thanks for the buck!!!  :)  A man of his word.  Hard to find around here.  


Gleb - you are filthy pig of a very high order.  I have no information whatever about what this guy is fucking and I have no interest in that at all.  Your thinking has serious defects and you should consider whether mental health medicine might help.


Somebody shoot me NOW! My brother looks like RawDog.  :'( :'( :'(

https://i.imgur.com/wU9zg0k.png https://walshworld.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/lightbuld.jpg?w=700


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: coins101 on February 11, 2017, 02:55:01 AM
just for fun

https://i.imgflip.com/1jdrrp.gif

dont knit pick quality. it was a 1 minute creation
enjoy

That's actually pretty good!  :D


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: IamNotAnonymous on February 11, 2017, 08:44:06 AM
Tell Adam Back that Satoshi Nakamoto the Moniker, !)ruid has opened his 'Right Eye' and said, 'fear not !


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: QuestionAuthority on February 11, 2017, 02:00:23 PM
Adam Back should have said, if he were never born Bitcoin would not exist. No hashcash, no bitcoin.


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: IamNotAnonymous on February 11, 2017, 03:48:55 PM
Adam Back should have said, if he were never born Bitcoin would not exist. No hashcash, no bitcoin.


Bitcoin: A Peer-to-Peer Electronic Cash System

4. Proof-of-Work To implement a distributed timestamp server on a peer-to-peer basis, we will need to use a proofof-work system similar to Adam Back's Hashcash [6], rather than newspaper or Usenet posts. The proof-of-work involves scanning for a value that when hashed, such as with SHA-256, the hash begins with a number of zero bits.  The average work required is exponential in the number of zero bits required and can be verified by executing a single hash.

Here it does not say that Satoshi used Adam back's Hashcash but it is similar to Adam Back's Hashcash. Now who implemented the Bitcoin in the Blockchain and started to mine Bitcoin ?

Does Adam Back has any proof that he imagined the Hashcash Proof-of-Work  in 1997 ? Where did he propose the Hashcash ? B-Money of alleged Wei Dai, Where did he published back in 1998 ? what proof does he got ? Bit+Gold=Bitgold; Bitgold of alleged Nick Szabo, Where did he published as proof of existence ? He predated it to looklike the precursor to Bitcoin. Infact, Bitcoin, B-Money, Bitgold, Proof-of-Work, Bitrica, Bitmohar, ZCash, Ethereum, Litecoin, IXCoin, Infogami, Intersango, Clicme, UNCC, CoinDesk, Cointelegraph, BitcoinFX, Liberty Reserve, UNFDIC, and E-Gold and  E-cash   are the ptotypes projects of Digital Electronic Cash System conceived by Satioshi Nakamoto the invisible visionary SI347. He started his research work from 1984 and formulated the E-Cash in 1994. In 1994 one of his Single Currency project were hijacked by an EU economist that led the EU single currency Euro come in to existence  in 1999. Finally Satoshi Nakamoto changed his project plan and paradigm and created Bitcoin and Blockchain in May 2007.  1 currency now.


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: isoneguy on February 11, 2017, 04:45:08 PM
Yawn...Satoshi wants me to inform you how pathetic it is to chase ghosts.

Everytime someone claims to have invented or created Bitcoin...Let me remind you that it was my idea. And Satoshi would never come forward... Partially because he sold his credentials and can't.

Everyone claiming to be Satoshi are just spotlight craving losers.

Move on with your lives, none of you are intelligent enough to figure it out.


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: cpfreeplz on February 11, 2017, 04:56:11 PM
It looks like he's just claiming he gave the groundwork for bitcoins but isn't claiming to be the inventor of bitcoins. Idk, he's entitled to his own opinion but obviously I don't think it's true at all. Just because you kind of had a half baked idea doesn't mean bitcoins are your idea to begin with. He's probably just pissed that bitcoins took off and his project never even made it to beta or never worked out.


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: coins101 on February 12, 2017, 12:05:17 AM
Adam Back should have said, if he were never born Bitcoin would not exist. No hashcash, no bitcoin.


Bitcoin: A Peer-to-Peer Electronic Cash System

4. Proof-of-Work To implement a distributed timestamp server on a peer-to-peer basis, we will need to use a proofof-work system similar to Adam Back's Hashcash [6], rather than newspaper or Usenet posts. The proof-of-work involves scanning for a value that when hashed, such as with SHA-256, the hash begins with a number of zero bits.  The average work required is exponential in the number of zero bits required and can be verified by executing a single hash.

Here it does not say that Satoshi used Adam back's Hashcash but it is similar to Adam Back's Hashcash. Now who implemented the Bitcoin
in the Blockchain and started to mine bitcoin ?

Does Adam Back has any proof that he imagined the Hashcash Proof-of-Work  in 1997 ? Where did he propose the Hashcash ? B-Money of alleged Wei Dai, Where did he published back in 1998 ? what proof does he got ? Bit+Gold=Bitgold; Bitgold of alleged Nick Szabo, Where did he published as proof of existence ? He predated it to looklike the precursor to Bitcoin. Infact, Bitcoin, B-Money, Bitgold, Proof-of-Work, Bitrica, Bitmohar, ZCash, Ethereum, Litecoin, IXCoin, Infogami, Intersango, Clicme, UNCC, CoinDesk, Cointelegraph, BitcoinFX, Liberty Reserve, UNFDIC, and E-Gold and  E-cash   are the ptotypes projects of Digital Electronic Cash System conceived by Satioshi Nakamoto the invisible visionary SI347. He started his research work from 1984 and formulated the E-Cash in 1994. In 1994 one of his Single Currency project were hijacked by an EU economist that led the EU single currency Euro come in to existence  in 1999. Finally Satoshi Nakamoto changed his project plan and paradigm and created Bitcoin and Blockchain in May 2007.   1 currency now.

err, Satoshi is too young for 1984 research.


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: IamNotAnonymous on February 12, 2017, 05:29:59 AM
05.04.1975 is the born again Japanese Birthday of Satoshi Nakamoto. Are you crazy to think that he is gonna put his real Bithday in the Internet ? He chose the Japanese Pseudonym to launch the Bitcoin Project. It is not his real name. You are too young to understand it. Ask the Prophet BitcoinMoses who will reveal the truth about, 'who is the real Satoshi Nakamoto ? Otherwise go and watch the cartoon name, 'Pinky and the Brain.' If you do not understand who is Satoshi after watching 'Pinky and the Brain'; you must watch the Gremlins. The 'Grand Father' will tell you who is Satoshi ? You do not need to watch Pokemon to find Satoshi Nakamoto. Thereafter watch Matrix. Then you will become an awakening human. That is not enough. Join the School of Satoshi to know the truth and the truth will set you free from all ignorance and miseries and oppresion. No slave can understand the taste of freedom, a man who is not free cannot offer you freedom. Therefore be wise and pay attention to Voice of Satoshi !


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: isoneguy on February 12, 2017, 06:58:58 AM
05.04.1975 is the born again Japanese Birthday of Satoshi Nakamoto. Are you crazy to think that he is gonna put his real Bithday in the Internet ? He chose the Japanese Pseudonym to launch the Bitcoin Project. It is not his real name. You are too young to understand it. Ask the Prophet BitcoinMoses who will reveal the truth about, 'who is the real Satoshi Nakamoto ? Otherwise go and watch the cartoon name, 'Pinky and the Brain.' If you do not understand who is Satoshi after watching 'Pinky and the Brain'; you must watch the Gremlins. The 'Grand Father' will tell you who is Satoshi ? You do not need to watch Pokemon to find Satoshi Nakamoto. Thereafter watch Matrix. Then you will become an awakening human. That is not enough. Join the School of Satoshi to know the truth and the truth will set you free from all ignorance and miseries and oppresion. No slave can understand the taste of freedom, a man who is not free cannot offer you freedom. Therefore be wise and pay attention to Voice of Satoshi !

You're a fanatic.

Please go to a doctor and get medication for your problem before you hurt yourself or someone else.


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: Xester on February 12, 2017, 07:27:27 AM
05.04.1975 is the born again Japanese Birthday of Satoshi Nakamoto. Are you crazy to think that he is gonna put his real Bithday in the Internet ? He chose the Japanese Pseudonym to launch the Bitcoin Project. It is not his real name. You are too young to understand it. Ask the Prophet BitcoinMoses who will reveal the truth about, 'who is the real Satoshi Nakamoto ? Otherwise go and watch the cartoon name, 'Pinky and the Brain.' If you do not understand who is Satoshi after watching 'Pinky and the Brain'; you must watch the Gremlins. The 'Grand Father' will tell you who is Satoshi ? You do not need to watch Pokemon to find Satoshi Nakamoto. Thereafter watch Matrix. Then you will become an awakening human. That is not enough. Join the School of Satoshi to know the truth and the truth will set you free from all ignorance and miseries and oppresion. No slave can understand the taste of freedom, a man who is not free cannot offer you freedom. Therefore be wise and pay attention to Voice of Satoshi !

You're a fanatic.

Please go to a doctor and get medication for your problem before you hurt yourself or someone else.

Just let him be, it is his way of expressing his opinion in a weird literary manner. But one thing is for sure that he does not agree that Adam Back is Satoshi Nakamoto. In this point of time many are claiming to be the inventor of bitcoin yet they are all fake. I would say the real Satoshi Nakamoto is no longer alive and thats why He didnt claim to be the inventor of bitcoin when it was launched.


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: Qunenin on February 12, 2017, 07:45:49 AM
It looks like he's just claiming he gave the groundwork for bitcoins but isn't claiming to be the inventor of bitcoins. Idk, he's entitled to his own opinion but obviously I don't think it's true at all. Just because you kind of had a half baked idea doesn't mean bitcoins are your idea to begin with. He's probably just pissed that bitcoins took off and his project never even made it to beta or never worked out.

What does it matter if bitcoin belongs to Satoshi, craig white or Adam ? I am not interested to know about that as it does not matter much to the bitcoin assistance. What matter me is how many bitcoins i hold  ;) and i guess everyone should care about this and try to save more and more bitcoins.


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: bravehearth0319 on February 12, 2017, 12:27:10 PM
Look at his stupid argument to promote himself as inventor of Bitcoin

https://i.imgur.com/t470DxQ.png

Everyone knows Craig Wright is the actual inventor and owner of Bitcoin.

This is not new to me, that many people will pretend to be Mr.Nakamoto Satoshi, and we don't know what's there motive, it can be popularity or fame something like that.
Just important is we know who's the real founder and author that's enough as a bitcoin enthusiast.


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: xuan87 on February 12, 2017, 01:16:17 PM
Look at his stupid argument to promote himself as inventor of Bitcoin

https://i.imgur.com/t470DxQ.png

Everyone knows Craig Wright is the actual inventor and owner of Bitcoin.

This is not new to me, that many people will pretend to be Mr.Nakamoto Satoshi, and we don't know what's there motive, it can be popularity or fame something like that.
Just important is we know who's the real founder and author that's enough as a bitcoin enthusiast.

I think the motive of pretending to Mr Satoshi to gain fame and popularity, and like usual, when we asked for the proof the person will look for reasons and can't proved anything, for me I do grateful of Satoshi creation and I don't really care who is Satoshi and fro me It is better Satoshi identity stay hidden


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: thunderbitz2717 on February 12, 2017, 09:01:20 PM
Look at his stupid argument to promote himself as inventor of Bitcoin

https://i.imgur.com/t470DxQ.png

Everyone knows Craig Wright is the actual inventor and owner of Bitcoin.

That guy in the picture claiming to be Mr. Nakamoto Satoshi, oh common you gotta be kidding me. Nakamoto is was a very low profile people, He don't need any fame and popularity, his only aim was to help the humanity in terms of financial. And other technology aspects. but not this one, who's gonna believe in this man? no basis at all.


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: Vlad2Vlad on February 12, 2017, 10:40:39 PM
05.04.1975 is the born again Japanese Birthday of Satoshi Nakamoto. Are you crazy to think that he is gonna put his real Bithday in the Internet ? He chose the Japanese Pseudonym to launch the Bitcoin Project. It is not his real name. You are too young to understand it. Ask the Prophet BitcoinMoses who will reveal the truth about, 'who is the real Satoshi Nakamoto ? Otherwise go and watch the cartoon name, 'Pinky and the Brain.' If you do not understand who is Satoshi after watching 'Pinky and the Brain'; you must watch the Gremlins. The 'Grand Father' will tell you who is Satoshi ? You do not need to watch Pokemon to find Satoshi Nakamoto. Thereafter watch Matrix. Then you will become an awakening human. That is not enough. Join the School of Satoshi to know the truth and the truth will set you free from all ignorance and miseries and oppresion. No slave can understand the taste of freedom, a man who is not free cannot offer you freedom. Therefore be wise and pay attention to Voice of Satoshi !

Ask the "prophet"?  Ok, where is this prophet BitcoinMoses?  When is he gonna reveal the truth? 

If this is true it's crazier than fiction.  :)


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: Gleb Gamow on February 13, 2017, 01:58:53 AM
Lock the thread! Here's proof as to who really is Satoshi Nakamoto: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNZyRMG2CjA


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: isoneguy on February 13, 2017, 03:31:48 AM
Bitcoin is merely a collection of ideas.

Not all of which were exclusively "Satoshi"'s.

Many have and will continue to contribute to the blockchain...as was intended.


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: QuestionAuthority on February 13, 2017, 04:05:40 PM
Adam Back should have said, if he were never born Bitcoin would not exist. No hashcash, no bitcoin.

Yeah he should be saying, No hashcash no magic internet moniez b**** m******* f*****. I own this s***.

I do agree a little with Rawdog. It looks like he really wants more credit than what's due. But whatever his contributions is surely having a lasting impact. Bitcoin alone is a huge impact.

Rawdick wants to give him no credit, I want to give him lots of credit, but the reality is probably somewhere in the middle. It's unclear if "the Satoshi" would have come up with POW on he/she/their own without Hashcash.


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: krach on February 13, 2017, 05:34:06 PM
haha

Stupid post to promote youtube channel and stupid theories


nice one


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: IamNotAnonymous on February 13, 2017, 06:52:14 PM
Look at his stupid argument to promote himself as inventor of Bitcoin

https://i.imgur.com/t470DxQ.png

Everyone knows Craig Wright is the actual inventor and owner of Bitcoin.

SO you think Adam Back is not but Craig Wright invested Bitcoin, funny isn't it. I'm very sure both are not Satoshi. If Craig Wright his he would have done what he was told to do, to proof his claim.
Does Adam Back really want to play the role "Satoshi Nakamoto ? "

adam440 said to me that I am a troll; who is adam440 ? He need go back to the Garden of Eden to look for Eve rather seeking to play the Bitcoin Drama Role Satoshi Nakamoto. Hundreads will come as imposters but BitcoinMoses will give comands to BitcoinJesus to recide abra ka daba to resurect Harrold Finney and Alex Finney from sleeping instead of lazrus to testify if Wei Dai die before the Bitcoin Judgement day where his game theory will be tested by deafault playing. Craig Wright Knows that he is not the inventor but a developer and market developer.


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: RawDog on February 13, 2017, 07:09:10 PM

No matter the amount of credit you would like to give him, or the credit I would give, the thread is about the fact that the stupid fucking plonker has given himself this credit. 

I don't really know the true value that hashcash may have been, but one thing is for certain, Adam Back wants to extend his claim to the origin of bitcoin so that he might gain additional credibility and move the network towards a proprietary off chain solution that will return money to the investors of Blockstream and royally fuck the natural progression of bitcoin development.  For this reason, I don't give a shit what Adam Back did in the past - good or bad - what he is doing now is poison to the network. 

If people don't stand up and resist this move, Bitcoin moves to a system controlled by a tiny few with a profit motive.  Wonderful scaling can come in many forms that have nothing at all to do with clever 'off chain' tricks that move profit/fees from miners to private investors.



Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: RawDog on February 13, 2017, 07:37:38 PM
asshole


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: Gleb Gamow on February 13, 2017, 07:42:46 PM
asshole

Adam Back should have said, if he were never born Bitcoin would not exist. No hashcash, no bitcoin.

Yeah he should be saying, No hashcash no magic internet moniez b**** m******* f*****. I own this s***.

I do agree a little with Rawdog. It looks like he really wants more credit than what's due. But whatever his contributions is surely having a lasting impact. Bitcoin alone is a huge impact.

Rawdick wants to give him no credit, I want to give him lots of credit, but the reality is probably somewhere in the middle. It's unclear if "the Satoshi" would have come up with POW on he/she/their own without Hashcash.
No matter the amount of credit you would like to give him, or the credit I would give, the thread is about the fact that the stupid fucking plonker has given himself this credit.  

I don't really know the true value that hashcash may have been, but one thing is for certain, Adam Back wants to extend his claim to the origin of bitcoin so that he might gain additional credibility and move the network towards a proprietary off chain solution that will return money to the investors of Blockstream and royally fuck the natural progression of bitcoin development.  For this reason, I don't give a shit what Adam Back did in the past - good or bad - what he is doing now is poison to the network.  

If people don't stand up and resist this move, Bitcoin moves to a system controlled by a tiny few with a profit motive.  Wonderful scaling can come in many forms that have nothing at all to do with clever 'off chain' tricks that move profit/fees from miners to private investors.

https://i.imgur.com/dP9s5is.jpg
"If we don't stand up and resist, the powers that be, controlled by a tiny few with a profit motive, will start using the other ends of their pencils. Take a damn good look at what we'll become!"

https://i.imgur.com/A3IiqZ6.jpg


Title: Re: Adam Back thinks he is the inventor of Bitcoin
Post by: Yakamoto on February 13, 2017, 07:53:46 PM
If someone wants to think that he's the inventor of something by some magical mental gymnastics then let him, it's not like we have to care about him or give any serious recognition to him.

I don't think I've ever seriously considered anyone to be a real inventor of Bitcoin, directly or otherwise, other than Satoshi. And he wouldn't make his identity easily know.