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I mean do you find yourself more successful in trading cryptocurrency than penny stocks?

I mean even bitcoin is an experiment than a $5 stock like $NOK $MNKD

i think i am more successful in trading crypto currency than penny stocks since i don't know how to do penny stocks and although doing trading is my first time experience, at least i can learn much from trading and i always thinking how to make profit in trading. i am not make bitcoin as experiment for me, since i know bitcoin from beginning, i only know that bitcoin is a way that can help me to make money, although i don't know how exactly to do it but from time to time i learning much how to make real money with bitcoin and from that, i am being motivated to earning more bitcoin because i want to make money.

so your saying to know more than

Bitcoin is still experimental https://bitcoin.org/en/you-need-to-know ?

Bitcoin is an experimental new currency that is in active development. Each improvement makes Bitcoin more appealing but also reveals new challenges as Bitcoin adoption grows. During these growing pains you might encounter increased fees, slower confirmations, or even more severe issues. Be prepared for problems and consult a technical expert before making any major investments, but keep in mind that nobody can predict Bitcoin's future.

you heard of tezos? you should know what problem bitcoin is facing currently,it's politics etc and yet said it's not experiment?

That's why bitcoin is still needed active development. But what's tezos, I didn't hear it before. The technical experimental of bitcoin has got mentioned by their development. And political and economic argue are in the different place(It's not experimenting).

I've traded ONE penny stock before, and it was on a tip.  Never again.  The market is so thin with these things, that you can barely get your order filled, much less get the price you want.  And with these bottom-of-the-barrel altcoins, it's much the same thing.  Unless there's a rally going on, good luck.  I'd stay far, far away from both of these things if I were you.

tezos = solves governance written from scratch with Ocaml functional prog. lang.
https://tezos.com/pdf/white_paper.pdf

I went to their slack and charles hoskinson of ethereum is in there and he gave a thumbs up so perhaps it's not another shitcoin

so you only do bitcoin exclusively? like pray for it to moon? or BTCUSD?

I assume $MNKD is a ticker for a penny stock?

Ok think of it this way. There is no comparison between a penny stock and the all mighty Bitcoin. Is your favorite penny stock as cool as Bitcoin? Is your penny stock a peer to peer, censorship resistant, and capable of value transfer on the internet? Can you buy cocaine with your penny stock?

That is how cool Bitcoin is.

yes $MNKD goes from $7 to 0.50 now

bitcoin is cool i get it,but there's too much going on like how do you research the fundamentals?

like for instance $NOK (nokia) plans to release a new version of 3310 in ~2018 :o

not just pure speculation to the moon

There are similarities between the crypto trading and penny stocks, ie the price is very easy to go up and down quickly. Actually there are people who say both are same and there are also people that say both are different, I do not know for sure. But I think they are different, crypto trading better than penny stocks. Penny stocks have a market capitalization lower while crypto trading otherwise. I am more interested in crypto trading rather than penny stocks because it is more profitable, and I'm also more often crypto trading making it more comfortable to do so.

Try to widen your thinking. You are not dealing with stocks anymore this something new and something very revolutionary. The technology behind Bitcoin like consensus thru proof of work and a peer to peer value transfer protocol has opened up new possibilities for society. It was also created by an anonymous person and the code is open source so it means anyone can now create their own payment network that is open, free and most importantly peer to peer.

So now take speculation and profit to the back seat and focus on the technology and what it brings to the plate.

do you know anything else that is prominent than EVM?

EVM is becoming JVM...

Crypto currencies trading is far more better than penny stock as crypto currencies margins trading is more liquid than penny stock margins trading. For your information trading assets' are all the same as technical analysis  and fundamental analysis are what determined the inflow and outflows of fund into The market.

crypto coin margin trading is very high risk, is special altcoin margin trading,
because margin trading not real market, have not bitcoin/altcoin is same in use trading, because can leverage system
you can see in poloniex or kraken, many people can lost big bitcoin is use margin trading, and only few people can get big return if use margin trading

As I understand that you want know the best in trading
for marginal vs simple bitcoin/altcoin trading .
Here you can think simply for it , Let you take example
that you have no much bitcoin to make trading with
particular altcoin which may be profitable but if you will
go for the marginal trading for this probably more
chances of loss due to down of the market .Usually you
will see in the poloniex for such types of marginal
trading losses .
I my self got much loss in the marginal trading but
simple trading results into better profit for me . So here i
will say cryptocurrency trading is better than any penny
stocks .

Here we go again. More talk and posts without thinking thoroughly about them. How can you say that cryptocurrency margin trading is more liquid than penny stock margin trading? The Nasdaq, where penny stocks are traded in America is one of the most liquid markets in the world. The brokers who participate in those markets, some are very cash rich, and the bigger brokers can give more volume in margin than the top cryptocurrency exchanges can give combined.


Are you a substantially experienced trader or do you have a background in finance? Please tell us why we should believe you.

Trading cryptocurrency specially trading alts is quite similar to penny stocks however it is quite simpler than that. It is quite hard to find out legitimate source about penny stocks and also hard to get any update about them. But there are many resources we can use to understand the market sentiment, updates and trend for alts. So i find crypto trading better than penny stocks trading.

I would compare it as the same kind of thing as they both share a couple core things about them.
1) They are usually pumped and fake hyped by a group of people to later be dumped for a profit.
2) Owners of the company (stock) and devs (coin) are really just putting the item for trade for there own personal profit and in no way do most of them believe their companies are going to do anything (minus healthcare)
3) Volume on most of them are pretty low except for the ones being pumped.

They're pretty similar so you could honestly pick other one with usually the same result, losing a boatload of money.

Unless you're a whale with a group of pumping marketers behind you, then hats off to you bud you've fucked everyone to make a dime.

Yes, only altcoin trading could be compared against penny stock trading not the bitcoin trading even bitcoin is still an experimental project. But an usual US stock will have market cap like $500 billion or $800 billion whereas bitcoin's market cap is still struck around $15 billions. But when considering one bitcoin prices, most of the stocks look like penny stocks lol.

In my experience, penny stocks are just gambling. They may take off or they may remain penny valued all the times. I never preferred trading penny stocks whereas bitcoin trading is highly profitable for me.

What are you trying to tell everyone? That cryptocurrency trading is not gambling? It is too. No one has an idea who really are behind most these different altcoins. Some developers are anonymous and will never reveal their identity. Here is the most risky part, it is trading in exchnages that are not regulated by the government.

I believe you do not have extensive experience.

If i will choose, I will pick trading cryptocurrencies over penny stock trading. Why? Because i'm more used into crypto trading and it is very easy to do that kind of trading and it doesn't require any age limit so even if you are under 18, you can still open an account and deposit money and last is to do trading. Based on my own experience, Cryptocurrencies is more volatile than penny stock and anytime you can take advantage of that to earn a lot of money.

Sure, crypto currency trading does not require any age limit or verification unlike trading penny stocks. Anyone can trade, But when it comes to making money, you can make money from both penny stocks and cryptos as long as when you know to make the right trades at the right time. Both has "pump and dump" schemes, so play it cautiously and stick with the trend.

Regardless of how often a penny stock gets fluctuations, how much fluctuations it will get really matters for traders that is the reason, penny stock trading is still most preferred among traders. Yes, the percentage of returns some times go as mammoth as 5000% also with penny stocks.

Like arbitrage trading, penny stocks opportunities also very rare, but if you identify it, you can make more returns than crypto trading. In more simple words, if you identify a potential penny stock, you can imagine that you will get chances to buy bitcoins in 2010 prices.

I agree with DoubleHunter here. Cryptocurrency trading has a lower barrier of entry and has no rules of a minimum amount to trade. Some stock brokers have rules that limit you on how to trade if the money in your account does not meet their allowed minimum. So if you are not a millionaire and what to learn how to trade then cryprocurrency trading will give you a lot of opportunties to practice.

Penny stocks and gambling are both higher risk ventures than trading cryptocurrencies.

The higher risk translates to there being a larger percentage chance of losing everything invested.

The higher risk also translates to higher potential profits if the investment is successful.

Trading crypto is the opposite. It carries less risk, with generally a lower potential to profit.

The relationship between risk and profit, where increased risk carries greater potential for profits(& the opposite is also true) accurately describes many investment opportunities.

I am not preferring trading for a do or die. If I do prefer, I would have chosen gambling instead of trading. Compared to gambling trading is relatively less risk involved and that is the reason I am into trading. If penny stock trading is again similar to gambling, then I will never touch them.

After seeing this topic, I checked some learning materials on penny stock trading. But I decided to continue only crypto trading. Basically I am not preferring trading stocks, but penny stocks are unlike other stocks seems high risk involved.

Trading penny stock may cost 7$/ trade. In crypto it is just 0.25% max.

Trading cryptocurrency is easy than penny stocks. Though both are undervalued assets, but cryptocurrency ,you can see the way forward than penny stocks. The profit you can gain from crypto is more than penny stocks.

Penny stocks are those that trade at a very low price, have very low market capitalization, are mostly illiquid. So such type of stocks does not have any good assets or product value , penny stocks  can be desisted any time by regulatory authority , So trade or invest in such stocks are pure gambling.while in case of trading of crypto is less risky because crypto have some meaningful product behind it.So if it goes at lower value still it would give some return.

I admit that I was new to cryptocurrency, and even about Bitcoin and Ethereum I have not been understood.
but if you ask Penny Stocks, then I hear that.

I see this comment on the main page that many people say that if Penny stock is like FOREX, if it's true like that then I will ignore Penny Stock because it's useless to continue.

This can not be compared to be honest, i think that trading stocks are not the same as low cap cryptos, because there are many differneces and you do not need to be an expert for that

The price always moves quickly it won't be a surprise if it starts to go back to $7,000 within a week. If i'm in your situation I won't hesitate .The market is so thin with these things, that you can barely get your order filled, much less get the price you want.  And with these bottom-of-the-barrel altcoins, it's much the same thing.  Unless there's a rally going on, good luck.  I'd stay far, far away from both of these things if I were you.

In stock market has lower fluctuacion so the risk and the return will be lower too. In stocks market has higher market  cap and the market fully regulated. To make profit 10 times in amonth is not possible in stocks market  but only possible in crypto,  to make better profit is better we have knowledge in both market,  because when crypto down trend we can move the money in to stock market.

To get maximum profit from trading and to have diversify risk, we should be have skill in both trading. In bearish crypto market is very hard to make profit because mostly all crypto going down hard. We should be have better prediction when best times to entry and exit from crypto all coin was bullish and bearish in the same years. When crypto on bearish, we should bring the money in to stocks trading.

Both has the same risk, because penny stocks has high volatility as well. I did both trading and crypto has more potential to offer very high return because in crypto market some coin possible to going up to 50-100 times in 1 years but in stocks market i did not found any stocks like that.  We should be try both to know different price action and the potential of profit. In crypto market there are pump dump coin and that thing also exist in stocks market.

I do not think they are that different but they are not close neither. Penny stocks are literally scams if done right, there has been companies with no offices that started out with the funds coming from their penny stocks sold, they make hundreds of millions of stocks and make their company worth millions without actually starting the business but just a promise. It means ICO's are quite similar in that sense, but crypto trading ? I am not too sure.

If the topic was ICO vs penny stock I might have said yes but trading crypto is more like forex than penny stocks at this point. The upper side is not as big as penny or ICO but the risks are lower compared to both. I would say penny stocks have only one more advantage which is having the SEC and IRS with you and if the company scams you they are always caught by the law, crypto people can run away from law longer if needed.

I will choose to trade in top 10 crypto than penny stocks because in penny stocks when the price dumped can be no others times to raise again, but for crypto because still young market very big chance the price will going up after dumped.