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I am in dilemma. Should buy ETH and hold it or buy bitcoin and hold it.Which one do you thing going to give best and high return in next one year?

BTC if you care about your money.
ETH if you want to gamble in a pure speculation coin that realistically has absolutely no usage right now.

Buy bitcoin and hold it, at least if you know the future price of ethereum and you must buy some of them. Based on my analyzation and it will get a little decrease ASAP(ETH).  ;)

Well ETH has the potential to be involved in everything thanks to its Smart Contracts and easy programming. I had some in ETH too but took it out only because BTC is limited hence the greater chance of price increase. ETH are not capped, so even if they get valuable they'll just mint more.

I think I ould choose to Buy BTC in my opinion. Bitcoin is poised to appreciate more this year and I read somewhere that it will reach $1,600++ dollars this year. I read also that Japan will accept bitcoin as payments and Philippines is also following. I think its a great opportunity ahead with bitcoin.

For me I recommend you to choose Bitcoin while it's hot because this is the year we will go to the moon. Why not take the opportunity to buy despite the price is high right now. Ethereum still in a nutshell but it's worth to invest though, a little. Don't risk your money if you can't afford to take with your investment.

I am trying to get and maintain 70/30 BTC/ETH this year

Eventually going to 70/25/5 BTC/ETH/Altcoins beginning 2018

My main reason for this is that Kraken held a survey under Business Universities asking 800 students how they would invest BTC/ETH percentage wise. Most students chose 70/30. You can find the results here on Kraken website (no referral link or anything):

http://blog.kraken.com/post/153305607742/bitcoin-vs-etherwho-won-find-out

the only safe investment among cryptocurrencies, specially when you are thinking long term is bitcoin and nothing else.
other altcoins can be good too such as litecoin and monero and even ethereum but it is best if you treat them in short term not long. meaning buy in a dip and sell when they rise to add to your bitcoin holding.

ethereum can be profitable but it is full of problems and has some bugs too. there are some good news on the way and it may be pumped again, but i am waiting for a good opportunity to get in and seek profit. for now bitcoin price is rising up again and in case it rises suddenly and big, ethereum price may drop.

That's not going to give you a good return in short term of time, though, those things you mentioned above just a pure speculation. As have been stated by OP that he's looking for best and high return within one year and I guess altcoin will be suited well for him rather than bitcoin. best and high return means he needs the volatility and regardless of the risk which he may burden while trading the coin or holding and yeah I choose Ethereum instead for OP.

this is not a dillema bro, how can you compare the king to an altcoin? bitcoin is the strongest and most accepted and most mined, also just buy bitcoin if you want to have a secure fortune in the future, altcoin are only there to make you more rich in bitcoin, trust me they are not stable and are not meant to remain in circulation forever

Totally agreeing with Ayers on this case. I Consider doing the same, eventually all my altcoins and ETH is ending up as BTC. This comes from a buy and hold kinda guy.

i don't see a huge amount of upside with eth for a while. it can't have the super pump it had last year again. if you're looking to gamble put a lower ratio in the top 10 coins at poloniex. more potential return with less risk.

https://thecontrol.co/the-investment-case-for-eth-b9082cabdbab#.2zjsfzdzn

Network Hashrate makes new all time record :

https://etherscan.io/chart/hashrate

Marketcap up :
https://etherscan.io/chart/marketcap

No you should look at what tezos is building because it has the potential to overtake ETH... why? gov in the protocol... consensus on hardforks and absorb future tech

if you want the possibility of big returns with high risk, there are better coins than ETH... hold bitcoin or go for something that can really make you rich in a few years.
do you see ETH going to 1000%? i dont. maybe some profit, but nothing extraordinary... so to me, doesnt worth the risk.

such as? pascal coin :D

Everything is gamble, even BTC. You can invest in every coin which has good volume of trade and has high position in market capitalization..Alts have better return in every case. BTC is more adopted and accepted but slower in terms of returning of invested.

I saw all those videos, very interesting indeed,i tend to agree with them about the 70%-30% long term. Also if someone choose to invest in other altcoins it should be money he doesnt count important short term

what the hell does a business student understand about crypto? a moron who's spent a few months here would have a ton more knowledge than any of them.

I dont think thats true, most people only care about bump and dump, not discussing about actual prospects of BTC, ETH or any other coin

that's what i mean. business students might make the mistake of attempting to look into fundamentals when there are none. it's all smoke and mirrors. someone who hangs out here would know that.

same goes for the forks and dao disaster. no one who hasn't educated themselves would know anything about that and they're far more important than bullshit future adoption.

Listen Pal, I  have become a millionaire in USD from 2006 to 2017 in my own way. I think listening to these studies provide good insight in possible future price projections. Of course one can bet against, hence I only own about $450 in crypto now, about to double to $1k tomorrow. I am a buy and hold kinda guy. I like advises but not in the matter you provide them to me.

listen to studies carried out on people who actually know what crypto means and entails. not a bunch of noobs who won't understand the intricacies unless they have a lot of time spare.

check the track record of predictions from mainstream 'experts' on crypto. it's pitiful.

In general you are right, but they only talk about BTC and ETH, and they have done their research. I dont say there are no flaws but its an interesting project, short period videos, anyone can see for some minutes. The more someone learns about cryptos the better i think, no matter the source

I totally agree with this. These students basically got hours and hours off studying the matter. They had to come up with something not to disappoint professor etc. I think they give massive insight on how youth is dealing with cryptocurrency, hence, very interesting.

I am not sure Ethereum issuance has been decided yet (after the transition to proof of stake), I remember having read some Vitalik's blog that it could even well be negative. For its applications in smart contracts, its price should above all be stable. Of course the question is stable against what, I would go with whatever is the main currency, which will be fiat for some time...

I only buy ETH after 20 % drop rate,the very risky today ala hardforks drops.

if you have doubts you better buy both beer no regrets in the future then you hold it until next year and see I guess bitcoin which will give a plus when compared with ETH, for a year

Im going still choose bitcoin than eth , eth encoutring problem with their coins and if you are going to think eth are just depending on bitcoin if eth will become individual maybe soon ill choose eth for investing but i had eth to hold and will sell when the price is high.

1. In Ethereum the block time is set to 14 to 15 seconds compared to Bitcoins 10 minutes. This allows for faster transaction times. Ethereum does this by using the Ghost protocol.
2. Ethereum has a slightly different economic model than Bitcoin – Bitcoin block rewards halve every 4 years whilst Ethereum releases the same amount of Ether each year ad infinitum.
3. Ethereum has a different method for costing transactions depending on their computational complexity, bandwidth use and storage needs. Bitcoin transactions compete equally with each other. This is called Gas in Ethereum and is limited per block whilst in Bitcoin, it is limited by the block size.
4. Ethereum has its own Turing complete internal code... a Turing-complete code means that given enough computing power and enough time... anything can be calculated. With Bitcoin, there is not this form of flexibility.
5. Ethereum was crowd funded whilst Bitcoin was released and early miners own most of the coins that will ever be mined. With Ethereum 50% of the coins will be owned by miners in year five.
6. Ethereum discourages centralised pool mining through its Ghost protocol rewarding stale blocks. There is no advantage to being in a pool in terms of block propagation.
7. Ethereum uses a memory hard hashing algorithm called Ethash that mitigates against the use of ASICS and encourages decentralised mining by individuals using their GPU’s.

i think ZCASH will be better ;D

zcash is very bad inflation coin
if answer to op iam recomended wait bitcoin down price buy and hold, if eth longtem is good too, bitcoin price high eth price down you can buy ethereum

Bitcoin is still the best choice to hold for yearly than ethereum because the movement of ethereum will not increase anymore or the highest price that i experience in ethereum was $14 and i think ethereum is just good for buy low  and sell high in short period of time..

this is what i can agree on. and this actually is what i do.
obviously i am a Bitcoin Hodler for long term and when it comes to altcoins i am just a short term trader.

many say ethereum is going to be big and go to the moon in long term,... and lots of things like that. while i don't fully disagree with them but i say until i see some real potential and some real movement (not pumps) i don't see ethereum going to the moon at all.

Its isnt a dilemma at all since the common answer on this question is "Bitcoin" no other than that ETH does have a potential but it cant break even on how good bitcoin was and regarding on the price movements i could say that Eth might have bigger percentage on a short period of time but there are lots of users on bitcoin and theres no doubt on that.

there is not inflation on zcash where you see inflation? the block reward reached the maximum point for now and can only increase in 4 years to 2 more units for a total of 12 per block, the thing is that the current system promote a deflationary system for the first 4 years, because less dumping from miners with a lower reward

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You are right, in my book ETH/ETC is something that is sitting under a very malleable and fragile base, to the contrary of bitcoin which is simpler and solid. Turing complete as a base for the software was a mistake.

In any case, what makes me have second thoughts of not owning Ethereum, its the fact that it seems to be backed by the big business like IBM, Microsoft etc... so what do we do?

You couldn't disagree if you'd bought every ethereum coin at 0.5 cents on 2014 and sell them $13 for each coin. Many people are not seeing it from the technical possession. but more to the possession of the value.

If it is all about investing and making some cash, then have bitcoin with you. ETH is more for traders. Buy low and sell high. Right now it is more in sell level. Bitcoin is all set for another break out. Do keep in mind that if ETH comes out if a mind blowing DAPP which captures attention of lot of people, then ETH can make severe gains. So, yeah. Keep an open mind and keep a track of how prices are moving for BTC as well as ETH.

BTC is much better option, I agree with most of the members about that. I wouldn`t neglect eth, why not to buy some amount of eth just in case? For my time spent here in crypto community I learned that anything can happen, and it`s better to be prepared then to regret later.
It is best to invest in both coins, more in bitcoin of course, but I would consider buying eth, some amount right now, and little by little when you have extra money in your pocket. It`s how I`m doing with eth, I think price will increase over time.

Why would I trust someone trying to make a few cents with CoinRoll BTC casino signature campaign, lol so sad, l2invest son.

Why not both?

That's isn't a bad idea but if you see the past prices it is clear that bitcoin will anyday give you better results than eth as far now. The currency still has the largest market cap so we never know. The best idea would be invest more in bitcoin and some in eth. For example if you have 1000$ buy 900$ worth of bitcoins and 100$ worth of eth.

In next one year price of both can increase but % increase will be higher for bitcoin for sure. Demand for bitcoin is growing significantly and we are not seeing any increase in ETH demand. I think ETH have already lost its charm after DAO attack and split of their blockchain. So best i think will be to hold bitcoin for long term.

Best Answer  ;)

Instead Of “Either/Or” Why Not “Both?”
Bitcoin will be established as the Cryptocurrency Reserve
However many other Cryptocurrency will evolve within Bitcoin's ecosystem

Consider for example the diversity within Credit cards
Credit cards are, for the most part, issued by banks.
As a store of value, bitcoin severs ties with banks, but we still
will have Visa, Chase, Wells Fargo, MasterCard, Capital One, Chase, American Express

Yep this is preferred and better thing to do. Since both coins are on the top leading in the coin market cap so why just choose only 1?

GO for both of it and if you are not mining bitcoins anymore because its not applicable to your area, go mine for ETH.

That will just depend on how you are treating these two coins.

It is very funny that there are still some of you who still hope that Ethereum will be as big as bitcoin. There is no use for Ethereum even if there was a really good DAPP built in it. Who will use the DAPP and how big will be the blockchain will be by that time? If all the ICO that used Ethereum failed will it be considered for Ethereum to be a platform of scams?

It will be alive in 2017 will be anchored by Ethereum, but when looking at the development of Bitcoin increasingly, every day the exchange rate always rises My suggestion seems better Bitcoin

Satoshi dice style services? Is that it? For a self described world computer, smart contract and DAPP platform those projects are of no innovation. Why would we play dice games in Ethereum if we already have good and trusted dice game sites for bitcoins?

Also be aware that QTUM is coming and it will be compatible with Ethereum DAPPS.

yes, I think it's better bitcoin than the Ethereum
why I think Bitcoin is better because the traffic is getting better. That's the reason I that bitcoin is better than Ethereum

With the bitbay dev behind it and some of the people already give a red flag for the project. I doubt it will be a good project in the future.

Just waiting for the dev confirmation about it. because everyone will not interested in investing on the scam project.

@shinratensei_. The Bitbay developer? You mean David Zimbeck? I do not think your information is accurate. He is not involved with the QTUM project. You should do more fact finding before you make your posts to avoid making yourself looking like a fool. This forum already has enough of them. 

Well if you have much money you can buy bitcoin because bitcoin has large of marketcap,
but if you have small money you can buy ETH and hold because ETH has good innovations.
But between bitcoin and ETH are instrument of investments and always there are risk must
be taken, so make sure you are ready for lost money in bitcoin and ETH.

you know that you don't have to buy a whole unit of these coins right? in other words you are not forced to buy 1 whole bitcoin you can buy 0.01BTC which is worth about $11 and i don't think there is anyone that finds that much big for investment but you can actually buy that much bitcoin.

the same goes for all other cryptocurrencies.

Hey man if you are in a dilemma and you don't know what to invest in I guess you should buy both. At least I would buy 70% in BTC and the other 30% in Ether

Well yeah, if you want to get more profit then why not simply go for the both of it. Since these two coins are in the top list, numbers 1 & 2 slot.

It's better to have them both and there's no regret about when dumping happened to these coins, because they will pump again afterwards.

And seeing their market caps, the potential is very clear.

ETH is a sleeping Giant .... that's where u should invest!

It would be kind of difficult to manage then. I would prefer to invest and choose only one of them and make up your decision based on the current circumstances, so, you can maximise your profit.
But yeah, there's nothing wrong with choosing both of them, as long as you can manage these.
Just follow the trend, Bitcoin and Ethereum have its own pump and dump times.

I agree make investments into bitcoin and ETH, it is good ideas because
 if one of both there is increasing the price will give profit or if they are both
increasing of price, it is mean will get maximal profit,
but always remember about the risk losing money in trading and must be calculated about it.

i think not just bitcoin and eth that we should make invest but we have to invest for the other coins that have a good chances to rise like before because when bitcoin price is down then i think its the time for altcoin to gets up and reach new price level and there should be many high price in short time before bitcoin price is getting up again. so i think i don't want to getting late to make invest from now.

that is not true anymore, was true in 2015 before the ico started, there was a lot of hype and 5k btc invested in that ico, it was a good bet at that time and it was a right choice to jump in, but now it's a ship sinking, and i would stay away from it if i was you

Lol... What are you talking about trading altcoins, should you read the main page before made post,
you can see the title it is about bitcoin and ETH which are the best coins for investing for long time
and we don't talking about trading altcoins except bitcoin and ETH.  ::)

Qtum ?

 A sleeping Giant who will sleep forever, ETH is going to die. They just need another hardfork and that's it

You're right, what a crazy dump... ::)
https://www.coingecko.com/en/price_charts/ethereum/usd/90_days

I would choose bitcoin too over ETH, bitcoin is hot at the moment and this year has a lot of important decisions concerning the future of bitcoin will ETF be approved? Will segwit be activated? So I think bitcoin has the best chance of giving you steady profits if you plan to hold for a long time.

You are right. Bitcoin is the main currency of all crypto currencies. Eth is just another altcoin, better than many other, good to trade, but it's not bitcoin. The most reliable currency is bitcoin, everyone on the internet know about it. Many articles, sources say this.
Eth can be the best of all alt coins, but the best of all crypto currencies still is bitcoin.

I guess it's not that hard if you are going to have control for two coins and do have an investment from it. It's not that bad if you are going to focus to these two.

But if you are that type of person that can supervise two things at the same time, then just go for bitcoins.

It will be always the best coins in the entire crypto economy.

These are good opportunity to anyone here, So if you can afford to buy this both for now well then start buying Bitcoin and bitcoin, but as much as you can buy more BTC, and buy eth and hold them both and wait in the right time on selling it.

I make investments into ETH and the growing be compared with fiat currency not on bitcoin
because growing of ETH or the profit from trading ETH is good fair with fiat currency,
it will not be impact with fluctuation of bitcoin and the profit can be withdrawal in fiat currency too,
also if we make investments into ETH we can get couples units of ETH with capital are not too much.

I will vote for bitcoin if your aiming to hold until the next year. Depends on your capital, divide your investment into 50:50 maybe better as you may get double profits from both of it. Ethereum price has been dropped back right now and you may buy a lot of it, on the other hand bitcoin price at ATH right now, higher price and be careful of crash, I suggest to buy bitcoin in the dip, maybe $800-$900 if ETF get disapprove.

But buying btc now is extremely expensive whereas many people can afford buying one eth. I think the OP better earn btc and buy some eth in case they grow. That's what I do, basically.
ETH having no usage is wrong. It has a wide assortiment of opportunities for programmers like writing eth-based apps or making treaties with other people with the help of code. I think eth as well as btc is our future.

Buying ETH is cheaper but if you area trader or an investor you should care about the possible returns you could get and the time frame you could expect to get those profits and in both of those aspects bitcoin seems to be the winner.

I think in a current period of time, good investment would be on bitcoin, but better choice for you will be to wait some time for price change or buy it right now because bitcoin always return on graphics. Altcoin can be also a good investment, but not that secure and not that stabilized because we can see on the market cup who are insanly winning that position and we already get a lot of trust from all of that

I think not sleeping again but suspended. This is because the news about ETH is nothing, all media spread the bitcoin thus making alt coins of other competing and the bitcoin always on the top and primary choice than altcoin.

But bitcoin is money not controlled by central that blocks certain transactions and such stuff Eth have centralized structure around one person,
i don't want put to much wealth in product that can be easy manipulated by one DEV and depends on his mod he can cause price go u or down,
money are money

It's a hybrid shit.


So, I ignoring all of you said rather than ignore Microsoft,IBM,JPmorgan and other big companies in entethalliance. Stop spreading a bullshit.

I think it's better to buy BTC than you buy ETH, if you buy BTC will greatly benefit you in the future, because BTC clearly visible and have a future that will be invested with it, but if you buy the ETH I am not sure it will last long because many new coin purse that uses ETH wallet so I thought it would carry a high risk for you, maybe they can do stupid things to be ETH is not growing, but that's just my advice and it's all up to you.

No doubt, buy bitcoin as its price is steadily rising.Your investment will be secure when compared to Ethereum.You could see Bitcoin performance is good in the last 6 months.Its price has reached from $650 to $1281.

Don't forget that past performance does not guarantee future results...

Your claim has no basis.. how can you say about cryptos a claim like "no doubt"?

Each crypto has it's own advantages and disadvantages.
I don't see BTC as the future platform for blockchain based startups and applications, but Ethereum absolutely is - read more about Enterprise Ethereum...
BTC is slow as f*ck and too expansive for small amounts, an average transaction can take more than 3 hours for 3 confirmations even with a fee of 200 satoshis per Byte, and will cost you about USD1.
While in Ethereum it will take 2 minutes for 10 confirmations and will cost you 10 cents.

I don't see any technical / revolutionary advantage for BTC until Segwit will be accepted, the only reason it is the top coin right now is because it was the fist crypto ever, with a huge market cap.

Bitcoin without any doubt. Kim Dotcom just made a prediction of more than 6000 USD/BTC by 2020.

if we see the current price from both of them obviously bitcoin is very much better but if your mean which coin would have high return in one year i think this is difficult because anything could be happen in the next one year but i suggest to you split your money by buying them because if the price one of them dropped then possible the other one may recover your losses

ok, so the right answer was ETH? :P