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Title: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: BitcoinLady on February 17, 2017, 01:34:22 PM
  
                                                                                                                                  A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice

Blockchain has reached the peak of its capabilities. With every new project appearing in this area it becomes obvious that there is no way for further revolutionary blockchain development, except in small improvements and workarounds from the original Bitcoin blockchain. The scheme ingenious in its simplicity, due to this simplicity is extremely rigid. There is a growing need for a new paradigm that while retaining the base features of blockchain will allow for more complex interactions and more flexible structure on a global scale.

The Monolithic nature of blockchain that makes immutability possible at the same time renders scalability impossible. There are workarounds, but they are neither inherent nor reliable.

We need to go further with caveats that give birth to a new scheme altogether, but with blockchain in mind. The History of blockchain development clearly shows that while it was an elegant and efficient scheme at first, with more and more added functionalities it became bloated and maze-like. There is no viable decentralized solution to return to simplicity except by providing a new scheme with more degrees of freedom.

We are in process of introducing a revolutionary change in cryptocurrency. It will be a new coin, but no longer under the conventional blockchain protocol, instead a multi-dimensional lattice structure, known as Bitlattice.

Bitlattice is a new paradigm and fundamentally different from Bitcoin and the major alt-coin protocols. It is something very novel and experimental. Bitlattice mitigates many common issues in the classic blockchain including scalability, timing, complexity, and the inability to have independent oracles.

Blockchain as a technology is already quite old. The majority of the underlying protocol on the Bitcoin blockchain is reasonable. However, there are some points that hamper wide and eager adoption of it. For example, well-known scalability issues stemming from the flatness of the chain (and few other factors as well). Time stamping problems stemming from the distributed peer-to-peer architecture that actually wasn't designed for this purpose (while there are many different implementations of p2p protocols in general, they differ with only a handful of schemes).

There are also higher level issues, like which proof to pick, what prioritization to set, how miners are placed inside a network and many more. All of them have certain benefits and drawbacks.

Our project differs substantially from traditional projects because it is not a blockchain. While it still provides the same fundamental benefits, lattice architecture is totally different thus providing additional benefits and solving several inherent blockchain issues.

It's lattice retaining some chain's properties. Actually, at the present stage of research itís a five-dimensional lattice interconnected with curves, and can be portrayed with directed graphs. It can be collapsed to one-dimensional chain which provides the same immutability the current blockchain provides. But at the same time it provides means for features like lattice encryption.

There is one additional funny side-effect of the structure I have in mind. Such network could potentially act as a neural network and be able to self-organize to a certain extent.

My friend, neurobiologist, compared my idea exactly to a Neural Network. And there is some truth in this comparison. Up to the point that one of the features in my idea acts exactly as synapses and I also postulate homomorphically encrypted seeded entities acting as local authorities and being "hidden variables" of this network, something that can be compared to a primitive consciousness.

Such an approach, with technical details will describe when I'm sure that everything works as expected on a prototype level.

Everyone can join now provided that they conform to my foundational Bitlattice idea - this is to prevent mess and encourage a cohesive team with preset goals. We are looking for visionaries like us, people who are open-minded and courageous enough to thump conservatism and bring the lattice protocol to the mainstream cryptocurrency world.

Thank you,

Hibryda - inventor of bitlattice
MaStudio - founder and investor to bitlattice

  Link to the website http://bitlattice.org/ (http://bitlattice.org/)
  Follow us on Twitter https://twitter.com/bitlattice (https://twitter.com/bitlattice)


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: cengsuwuei on February 17, 2017, 02:15:05 PM
youre not explain in this thread about youre project
and explain bitlattice coin, about total suply bitlattice coin, tipe coin , and about bitlattice ico selling and bounty


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: Hibryda on February 17, 2017, 03:41:31 PM
youre not explain in this thread about youre project
and explain bitlattice coin, about total suply bitlattice coin, tipe coin , and about bitlattice ico selling and bounty

There are 3 steps of the project:
1 - theoretical research with proof of concept code examples.
2 - implementation
3 - deployment and issuance

We are at research & developmental stage. This step is meant to yield both refined theoretical basis in form of final WhitePaper and example code fragments that can serve as proofs of concept. Actually some parts of this concept are ready today, some must be refined, some decided yet.

As to  deciding supply -
-supply, being bound to usability rather than to theoretical caveats, should be decided at second step. Myself I tend to favor low number fixed supply (Bitcoin like). Anti-deflational strategy of Ether convinces me not. The supply will most likely be provided by miners (however there are other possible solutions at hand) obliged to calculate lattice weight function from a full node. The difficulty must be set at this stage. If someone convinces me that never ending supply, or fluid supply is better, can change my stance.

As to deciding divisability -
-as currency is just a number it can be decided what minimum unit is allowed (and what to do with remainder if any). My current stance is 9 decimal places in both directions from comma (30 bits unsigned in every direction). But it can be set almost without limitations (except more bytes to hold a value).

As to ICO - did't decided yet.

bitlattice.org (http://bitlattice.org)


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: fgb on February 17, 2017, 04:12:05 PM
is dis your ann?  ::) just asking


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: wtfc360 on February 17, 2017, 07:10:28 PM
I support Hibryda and this project which will revolutionise the crypto currency world.


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: sugarbaby on February 17, 2017, 07:15:35 PM
too vague to understand what is the real goal, or even what you meant to say as posting this here  ???


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: usukan on February 17, 2017, 09:54:54 PM
Having been privy to more detailed info regarding the concepts and early technical details of this Bitlattice project - I will be watching this space closely.

Welcome to the World Bitlattice

Regards to you both Hibryda and wtfc360

Good luck with this project and I hope to offer assistance on this project to you in the future.


Cheers - usukan


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: biggernugs on February 17, 2017, 10:03:28 PM
Not really sure what is being announced here. Seems to be in such stage of infancy that there's not much to elaborate on. But just in case there is some new revolutionary thing going on here I'll keep an eye on it  :-X


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: HEPHAISTOS on February 17, 2017, 10:13:43 PM
waiting the continuation of this project, I keep an eye on this thread


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: sugarbaby on February 17, 2017, 10:30:46 PM
too vague to understand what is the real goal, or even what you meant to say as posting this here  ???

Not really sure what is being announced here. Seems to be in such stage of infancy that there's not much to elaborate on. But just in case there is some new revolutionary thing going on here I'll keep an eye on it  :-X

Yeah. they are talking like they were stoned  :D


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: usukan on February 17, 2017, 11:18:10 PM
too vague to understand what is the real goal, or even what you meant to say as posting this here  ???

Not really sure what is being announced here. Seems to be in such stage of infancy that there's not much to elaborate on. But just in case there is some new revolutionary thing going on here I'll keep an eye on it  :-X

Yeah. they are talking like they were stoned  :D

Haha - please note that English is not Hibryda's first language and that may contribute to your perception on that.

Try explaining your Pink Dog in Swedish - you might end up far worse than sounding stoned.


BTW - what on earth is Pink Dog anyway?  Looks pretty vague to me? I take it that its just a joke coin?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1789357.0


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: sugarbaby on February 17, 2017, 11:23:29 PM
too vague to understand what is the real goal, or even what you meant to say as posting this here  ???

Not really sure what is being announced here. Seems to be in such stage of infancy that there's not much to elaborate on. But just in case there is some new revolutionary thing going on here I'll keep an eye on it  :-X

Yeah. they are talking like they were stoned  :D

Haha - please note that English is not Hibryda's first language and that may contribute to your perception on that.

Try explaining your Pink Dog in Swedish - you might end up far worse than sounding stoned.


BTW - what on earth is Pink Dog anyway?  Looks pretty vague to me? I take it that its just a joke coin?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1789357.0

lel, ok, fair enough ;)


Pink Dog is not my coin ahahah. Im just a miner and enthusiast of another shitcoin. And yes, its for being a joke coin that is fun  :D




Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: Hibryda on February 17, 2017, 11:25:01 PM
I support Hibryda and this project which will revolutionise the crypto currency world.


Yes, it can transform society. Because it gives some tools that are impossible with standard blockchain. You probably heard of mesh nets, wots and alike. In my lattice they will be just a natural consequence of using it. Because mesh networks are lattices actually, right?

How lattice differs from chain - one dimensional structures aren't natural in our three (or four, or eleven, or two, depending whom you ask and which theory is concerned) dimensional world. Lattices are natural.

As to possible applications in real world - micro democracies, multi level ones and alike. I have an approach that things should be built from bottom up with consciousness of every society member in mind. One cannot build efficient and sane social system without having all participants really participating. And what is reality - you can see on your own. Idiots everywhere :)


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: biggernugs on February 17, 2017, 11:29:53 PM
too vague to understand what is the real goal, or even what you meant to say as posting this here  ???

Not really sure what is being announced here. Seems to be in such stage of infancy that there's not much to elaborate on. But just in case there is some new revolutionary thing going on here I'll keep an eye on it  :-X

Yeah. they are talking like they were stoned  :D

Yes, but I'm high as hell also, so we should understand ;D

I support Hibryda and this project which will revolutionise the crypto currency world.


Yes, it can transform society. Because it gives some tools that are impossible with standard blockchain. You probably heard of mesh nets, wots and alike. In my lattice they will be just a natural consequence of using it. Because mesh networks are lattices actually, right?

How lattice differs from chain - one dimensional structures aren't natural in our three (or four, or eleven, or two, depending whom you ask and which theory is concerned) dimensional world. Lattices are natural.

As to possible applications in real world - micro democracies, multi level ones and alike. I have an approach that things should be built from bottom up with consciousness of every society member in mind. One cannot build efficient and sane social system without having all participants really participating. And what is reality - you can see on your own. Idiots everywhere :)


And on that note, your words have me intrigued, so I will continue to listen...


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: hoop on February 17, 2017, 11:34:31 PM
 No longer blockchain !So,your project and your coin will be using alt blockchain? blockchain provide new technology to cryptocurrencies.

  what is type of new technology your project will provide to cryptocurrencies?


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: Hibryda on February 17, 2017, 11:34:49 PM
Having been privy to more detailed info regarding the concepts and early technical details of this Bitlattice project - I will be watching this space closely.

Welcome to the World Bitlattice

Regards to you both Hibryda and wtfc360

Good luck with this project and I hope to offer assistance on this project to you in the future.


Cheers - usukan

Thank you very much Usukan. We would love to have you on board!


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: sugarbaby on February 17, 2017, 11:35:37 PM
I think i got it.. Ambitious project if they can make it.
So, basically you guys want to create another kind of blockchain... instead of the traditional legder - unidimensional - block after block, same chain.... you guys want multiple levels with chains that will make connection with each other if needed... right, or too far from your idea?


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: andreibi on February 17, 2017, 11:37:49 PM
Let's see this theory made into a working network. Please, not in 8 years. Words are beautiful, but substance is needed.


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: Quontoloue on February 17, 2017, 11:40:48 PM
i will wait open bounty


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: sugarbaby on February 17, 2017, 11:54:23 PM
I think i got it.. Ambitious project if they can make it.
So, basically you guys want to create another kind of blockchain... instead of the traditional legder - unidimensional - block after block, same chain.... you guys want multiple levels with chains that will make connection with each other if needed... right, or too far from your idea?

Can you give us an example of a real application?


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: Hibryda on February 18, 2017, 12:28:17 AM
I think i got it.. Ambitious project if they can make it.
So, basically you guys want to create another kind of blockchain... instead of the traditional legder - unidimensional - block after block, same chain.... you guys want multiple levels with chains that will make connection with each other if needed... right, or too far from your idea?

In the present scheme of blockchain there is no possibility to perform more than two operations at once, stemming from the fact that every next blocks depends on the previous. Of course this is mitigated by packing multiple transactions into one block and hashing them collectively. But itís far from concurrency, rather itís just a way to deal with this very limited structure. In lattice things are different. There are multiple root points that are referred to from the main root. It resembles child chains in some applications, but is very different on the basic level of functionality.
With lattice, many operations can be performed at the same moment in time by different miners/processing units. And still the whole structure will retain integrity. Because clusters can but usually wonít overlap.


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: Hibryda on February 18, 2017, 12:37:23 AM
I think i got it.. Ambitious project if they can make it.
So, basically you guys want to create another kind of blockchain... instead of the traditional legder - unidimensional - block after block, same chain.... you guys want multiple levels with chains that will make connection with each other if needed... right, or too far from your idea?

Can you give us an example of a real application?

Wider area of application.
Internet of Things (IoT) and mobile devices currently have problems with chain applications because such applications require lots of resources. Even light clients won't solve the issue, as they still need some chain synchronization and often it is still a lot of data exchanged. Even if the data-transferring wasnít an issue, the synchronization leaves room for attack vectors due to their dependence on external full nodes. BitLattice will require only having knowledge of the local cluster (with size not being hard set - every size will fit). It will be in discretion of the device to ease work by extending the cluster if performing border-crossing operations turns out to be more expensive). More, even crossing border will be far less costly than comparable chain operations as the only proof required would be proof of subtle structure. Which can be performed with GPU cores as it's based on parametric curves.

As to other DApps that can show superiority. IoT real time ones, for instance. With no lags and timeouts. Just performing in miliseconds. No bc based solution can offer this. I can think about other DApps - you please think too. I develop my idea since a year now and last thing I thought are toys. The scheme itself is stunningly efficient.


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: Hibryda on February 18, 2017, 01:13:40 AM
No longer blockchain !So,your project and your coin will be using alt blockchain? blockchain provide new technology to cryptocurrencies.

  what is type of new technology your project will provide to cryptocurrencies?
Bitlattice mitigates many common issues in the classic blockchain, for instance

Scalability.
Ethereum tries to deal with it with light client, and Bitcoin with Lightning Network. Both their solutions (and many others) are just workarounds. They may work in the short-term. In long - lack of the ability of the blockchain to be scaled is inherent. Itís a one dimensional structure where beginning depends on end and vice versa. There is no good solution to split it. With multidimensional (3+2) scheme of lattice there are actually several strategies that enable scaling. Both atomic and more general. And itís inherent. So, in simple words, an inherent feature of the blockchain is itís un-scalability, INHERENT FEATURE OF LATTICE IS SCALABILITY.

lattice's clusters can operate independently while still retaining integrity. Thus there is no need of full nodes when certain network saturation is achieved. Because most of the info isn't stored in blocks Ė itís stored in the subtle structure of lattice. In homomorphic transformations leading to certain arrangement of lattice (using a rather popular science analogy -  it's like the data storage in a hologram. Not exact, but gives an idea). All in five dimensions (because it gives enough capacity for the system itself to live till the end of universe without risk of being overflown, while still being easy to calculate). So, this system is planned to be scalable from the very beginning. Also, what is actually impossible with a blockchain solution, lattice enables concurrent operations (as long as they don't cross the boundary of two or more clusters that are subject to some operations).


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: BTC Community on February 18, 2017, 01:24:40 AM
really bold and cool idea,the world need different innovation

but specific plan still not clear , keep following your next step. come on。。。


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: Hibryda on February 18, 2017, 01:39:04 AM
Let's see this theory made into a working network. Please, not in 8 years. Words are beautiful, but substance is needed.
We work on substance and we are probably the only people now, most interested in making it real as soon as possible.
I am not so young, in 8 years I can have Alzheimer so better sooner  ;D
However in such case I will anyway forget what is it about.


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: TimeTeller on February 18, 2017, 01:41:09 AM
will wait for further details of this project.
coz there's too much words here.  ;D
waiting for the specs & other vital info.


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: Hibryda on February 18, 2017, 01:42:33 AM
really bold and cool idea,the world need different innovation

but specific plan still not clear , keep following your next step. come on。。。

Our 5 laptops now turned into portable heaters. We test multiple scenarios. It's hard to speed it up, but we do our best and will keep you updated.


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: sugarbaby on February 18, 2017, 01:49:00 AM
Thank you Hibryda for your remarkable answers. I got the main ideia and Ill look forward to see you accomplish of the next steps.

Success for you and your team. Ill follow you guys


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: CryptocurrencyNetwork on February 18, 2017, 02:00:05 AM
Interesting indeed.

Will keep an eye out.


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: Depredation on February 18, 2017, 02:07:23 AM
Ticker? BTL, BLX, BTX, LCE, LXT, LAT   ::)


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: Hibryda on February 18, 2017, 02:12:35 AM
will wait for further details of this project.
coz there's too much words here.  ;D
waiting for the specs & other vital info.
When I'm sure that everything works as expected on a prototype level I will provide you with all technical details.


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: Hibryda on February 18, 2017, 02:19:27 AM
Ticker? BTL, BLX, BTX, LCE, LXT, LAT   ::)
The third step - deployment and issuance will provide working cryptocurrency with all required infrastructure.


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: PikachuYou on February 18, 2017, 02:57:52 AM
Okay.

So if I understand correctly, you are trying to make something that is a new kind of blockchain, in essence you are making some sort of "neural net

blockchain type structure"

Something roughly along those lines.....


https://i.stack.imgur.com/1bCQl.png


Could that be equated to some sort of AI blockchain?

Or am I just completely off the mark?


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: Hibryda on February 18, 2017, 03:26:49 AM
Okay.

So if I understand correctly, you are trying to make something that is a new kind of blockchain, in essence you are making some sort of "neural net

blockchain type structure"

Something roughly along those lines.....


https://i.stack.imgur.com/1bCQl.png


Could that be equated to some sort of AI blockchain?

Or am I just completely off the mark?


It's not so easy here to draw comparisons. First, you attached an image of some sort of graph. In practice unrelated to my idea. Of course, most interconnected structures can be pictured with graphs, Bitlattice as well. However not so regular.
As to neural net - most structures where nodes' output depends on some qualities of incoming multiple signals and retain a state are in a way neural networks. As in Bitlattice there will be a kind of synapses (tx vectors) with possible weighting it can work as NN. But it's not its primary feature. There will be also other means making the net potentially self equalizing. But this requires further research. Which is pending.
Anyway, I'll keep you updated as to what it will implement, as soon as I'm sure about details.
So, when Skynet will start all around here will be noticed first  ;D


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: PikachuYou on February 18, 2017, 03:55:30 AM
Okay.

So if I understand correctly, you are trying to make something that is a new kind of blockchain, in essence you are making some sort of "neural net

blockchain type structure"

Something roughly along those lines.....


https://i.stack.imgur.com/1bCQl.png


Could that be equated to some sort of AI blockchain?

Or am I just completely off the mark?


It's not so easy here to draw comparisons. First, you attached an image of some sort of graph. In practice unrelated to my idea. Of course, most interconnected structures can be pictured with graphs, Bitlattice as well. However not so regular.
As to neural net - most structures where nodes' output depends on some qualities of incoming multiple signals and retain a state are in a way neural networks. As in Bitlattice there will be a kind of synapses (tx vectors) with possible weighting it can work as NN. But it's not its primary feature. There will be also other means making the net potentially self equalizing. But this requires further research. Which is pending.
Anyway, I'll keep you updated as to what it will implement, as soon as I'm sure about details.
So, when Skynet will start all around here will be noticed first  ;D

that was an image of a neural net, not a graph.......

anyways, look forward to getting more info.

I did read your preliminary introduction on your website: http://bitlattice.org/

maybe you should include a picture of the structure of the bitlattice so people get a more thorough understanding because as they say, a picture speaks a thousand words....

good luck and I will be following with interest.


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: usukan on February 18, 2017, 06:12:21 AM
Okay.

So if I understand correctly, you are trying to make something that is a new kind of blockchain, in essence you are making some sort of "neural net

blockchain type structure"

Something roughly along those lines.....


https://i.stack.imgur.com/1bCQl.png


Could that be equated to some sort of AI blockchain?

Or am I just completely off the mark?


It's not so easy here to draw comparisons. First, you attached an image of some sort of graph. In practice unrelated to my idea. Of course, most interconnected structures can be pictured with graphs, Bitlattice as well. However not so regular.
As to neural net - most structures where nodes' output depends on some qualities of incoming multiple signals and retain a state are in a way neural networks. As in Bitlattice there will be a kind of synapses (tx vectors) with possible weighting it can work as NN. But it's not its primary feature. There will be also other means making the net potentially self equalizing. But this requires further research. Which is pending.
Anyway, I'll keep you updated as to what it will implement, as soon as I'm sure about details.
So, when Skynet will start all around here will be noticed first  ;D

that was an image of a neural net, not a graph.......

anyways, look forward to getting more info.

I did read your preliminary introduction on your website: http://bitlattice.org/

maybe you should include a picture of the structure of the bitlattice so people get a more thorough understanding because as they say, a picture speaks a thousand words....

good luck and I will be following with interest.




Hi PikachuYou

You showed a "diagram" of a 2 dimensional "artificial" neural network.  Its actually very simplistic compared to what Hibryda is talking about here - but you are heading along the right path to discovery and enlightenment (I did the same path myself).

This be a 3 dimensional lattice - try to imagine a 5 dimensional one............

I can't - but in the virtual world - it can exist.

Humans are limited to 3 dimensions - computers/mathematics are not.


http://i.imgur.com/nsqRLtJ.jpg





Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
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Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: freebtc4e on February 18, 2017, 07:08:26 AM
hi dev,
the idea is great ... 8)
I keep an eye on this thread  ;)


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: wtfc360 on February 18, 2017, 09:03:33 AM
Having been privy to more detailed info regarding the concepts and early technical details of this Bitlattice project - I will be watching this space closely.

Welcome to the World Bitlattice

Regards to you both Hibryda and wtfc360

Good luck with this project and I hope to offer assistance on this project to you in the future.


Cheers - usukan

Thank you Usukan!
We will wait for you, join us when you are ready!

This is it folks, keep watching this thread, as you have already begun to understand, Bitlattice will be the new standard in crypto currencies,  a paradigm stift! Stay tuned, not stoned.


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: Hibryda on February 18, 2017, 11:05:12 AM

that was an image of a neural net, not a graph.......

anyways, look forward to getting more info.

I did read your preliminary introduction on your website: http://bitlattice.org/

maybe you should include a picture of the structure of the bitlattice so people get a more thorough understanding because as they say, a picture speaks a thousand words....

good luck and I will be following with interest.


This was graph. Of some neural network. On the picture spatial positions of nodes have no importance. So, it's graph.

A little more about spatial matters. The choice of spatial abstraction serves one purpose. To leverage some properties of multidimensional objects. To give a trivial example, two different points in 3d space cannot occupy the same place in terms of coordinates - of course Euclidean space. There are more such properties.

At a certain moment I will produce a sketch. But pictures can be misleading. I prefer avoiding misunderstandings.


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: kamiyama on February 18, 2017, 12:06:08 PM
If you have time to write, I want you to proceed with development.


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: kurbeks on February 18, 2017, 12:18:59 PM
Intresting stuff. Following project


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: Watanabe1505 on February 18, 2017, 12:43:36 PM
I can do Vietnamese translation for bounty if this project has a translation campaign :D


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: Hibryda on February 18, 2017, 01:46:04 PM
If you have time to write, I want you to proceed with development.

I develop it now full time, otherwise I wouldn't announce it here. Of course will update in some intervals and hope to have prototype working in pretty reasonable time.

I can do Vietnamese translation for bounty if this project has a translation campaign :D

We are still on very early stage, so now bounties and alike aren't our main concern. But we'll keep notice about you being first re: translations.


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: GameunitsSEO on February 18, 2017, 02:27:09 PM
Can you give us an example please  ???


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: Hibryda on February 18, 2017, 02:55:51 PM
Can you give us an example please  ???

But example of what? Please elaborate. It's early stage devoted to research.


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: sugarbaby on February 18, 2017, 02:56:34 PM
Can you give us an example please  ???


I think i got it.. Ambitious project if they can make it.
So, basically you guys want to create another kind of blockchain... instead of the traditional legder - unidimensional - block after block, same chain.... you guys want multiple levels with chains that will make connection with each other if needed... right, or too far from your idea?

Can you give us an example of a real application?

Wider area of application.
Internet of Things (IoT) and mobile devices currently have problems with chain applications because such applications require lots of resources. Even light clients won't solve the issue, as they still need some chain synchronization and often it is still a lot of data exchanged. Even if the data-transferring wasnít an issue, the synchronization leaves room for attack vectors due to their dependence on external full nodes. BitLattice will require only having knowledge of the local cluster (with size not being hard set - every size will fit). It will be in discretion of the device to ease work by extending the cluster if performing border-crossing operations turns out to be more expensive). More, even crossing border will be far less costly than comparable chain operations as the only proof required would be proof of subtle structure. Which can be performed with GPU cores as it's based on parametric curves.

As to other DApps that can show superiority. IoT real time ones, for instance. With no lags and timeouts. Just performing in miliseconds. No bc based solution can offer this. I can think about other DApps - you please think too. I develop my idea since a year now and last thing I thought are toys. The scheme itself is stunningly efficient.

He already answered that  :)


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: BitcoinLady on February 19, 2017, 02:52:22 PM

Thank you very much for e-mails with words of encouragement.
As to matters different than 'developers or investors' there is a new address on the site  mastudio@bitlattice.org

BR
MaStudio


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: vivinamie on February 19, 2017, 05:15:42 PM
I can do chinese translation for bounty if this project has a translation campaign


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: trustfarm on February 19, 2017, 05:51:06 PM
 ;D

It looks good stance.
I'll do korean translation and promotion.
It will be come out detailed prints.


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: sugarbaby on February 19, 2017, 05:55:57 PM
I can do Vietnamese translation for bounty if this project has a translation campaign :D

;D

It looks good stance.
I'll do korean translation and promotion.
It will be come out detailed prints.


I can do chinese translation for bounty if this project has a translation campaign

I think you guys have not understood this thread/project  :)


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: trustfarm on February 19, 2017, 06:25:32 PM
I can do Vietnamese translation for bounty if this project has a translation campaign :D

;D

It looks good stance.
I'll do korean translation and promotion.
It will be come out detailed prints.


I can do chinese translation for bounty if this project has a translation campaign

I think you guys have not understood this thread/project  :)

I've wholey understand announcers saying. and idea.
I hope to be it realized.
Let's look at ..


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: BitcoinLady on February 19, 2017, 06:50:53 PM
 
 We are in process of preparing some answers to frequently asked questions (#AskHibryda) concerning the idea of bitlattice.




 


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: usukan on February 21, 2017, 01:42:17 AM
You need a good "logo" too - MaStudio should be able to design something pretty exceptional.


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: LieXurui on February 21, 2017, 04:11:21 AM
i will wait youre coin project
wait about spefication coin, ico selling and then bounty too


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: BitcoinLady on February 21, 2017, 05:41:36 PM
 Dear community,

 Answers to some of your questions have just been published on the site http://bitlattice.org/faq.html (http://bitlattice.org/faq.html)

 MaStudio


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: BitcoinLady on February 21, 2017, 06:11:29 PM
You need a good "logo" too - MaStudio should be able to design something pretty exceptional.
Thank you Usukan:)


First of all we are going to make a new profesional website with beautiful logo design and other functionalities. The present one is just a short presentation of the idea [at the moment we are writing it from scratch]
We didn't launch the project yet. We informed, that such project exists, as we assume that society should learn about technological change (innovation) at all stages of research, development, diffusion and use.

MaStudio


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: biggernugs on February 21, 2017, 11:45:15 PM
So ya, I commented earlier kinda snarky....but after looking into to the idea and reading your answers I gotta say I'm excited about this. You've got a really unique approach to some limitations of the current blockchain and it looks like you know what you want to fix and are ready to do it. I'm all ears, to quote your ANN, this looks like a revolutionary step...& I'll gladly participate in it.


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: str4wm4n on February 21, 2017, 11:46:48 PM
Following this, always interested in real innovation.


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: wtfc360 on February 22, 2017, 10:13:16 AM
So ya, I commented earlier kinda snarky....but after looking into to the idea and reading your answers I gotta say I'm excited about this. You've got a really unique approach to some limitations of the current blockchain and it looks like you know what you want to fix and are ready to do it. I'm all ears, to quote your ANN, this looks like a revolutionary step...& I'll gladly participate in it.

Don't worry, now the FAQ is up and running, people can read and contemplate what this project is about. Of course it's vague with scarce information and you lack the complete picture.
Since a couple of months back I have been privy to some inside information, like Usukan, regarding this project and I'm have been and continuously reading/studying this from the basic (compliments of Hibryda). End point being that Hibryda knows how to make this happen from theory to practice.


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: BitcoinLady on February 23, 2017, 02:19:13 AM
  
New logo and website are ready bitlattice.org (http://bitlattice.org)

https://s3.postimg.org/b532buwyn/bilogo.png (https://postimg.org/image/b532buwyn/)


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: castong on February 23, 2017, 03:02:44 AM
 
New logo and website are ready bitlattice.org (http://bitlattice.org)

https://s3.postimg.org/b532buwyn/bilogo.png (https://postimg.org/image/b532buwyn/)

Great logos, i like this
Goodjobs dev


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: wtfc360 on February 23, 2017, 06:05:03 AM
Yes, great logo! Nice work MA-studio.


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: BTC Community on February 23, 2017, 07:44:31 AM
 
New logo and website are ready bitlattice.org (http://bitlattice.org)

https://s3.postimg.org/b532buwyn/bilogo.png (https://postimg.org/image/b532buwyn/)

cool .

remark: do you ever considered logo can be designed base on word "B" (its named bitlattice and special chain different from blockchain, i think B PLUS )   what about "B+" ?  maybe with 3D effect is better.


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: BitcoinLady on February 23, 2017, 07:17:31 PM
 
New logo and website are ready bitlattice.org (http://bitlattice.org)

https://s3.postimg.org/b532buwyn/bilogo.png (https://postimg.org/image/b532buwyn/)

cool .

remark: do you ever considered logo can be designed base on word "B" (its named bitlattice and special chain different from blockchain, i think B PLUS )   what about "B+" ?  maybe with 3D effect is better.

Right! At the present stage Bitlattice is a 3+2 dimensional structure so we should think about such logo. Thank you


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: jeeb on February 24, 2017, 06:00:32 PM
A good LOGO, Cool!


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: synthgauge on February 24, 2017, 06:52:35 PM
 
New logo and website are ready bitlattice.org (http://bitlattice.org)

https://s3.postimg.org/b532buwyn/bilogo.png (https://postimg.org/image/b532buwyn/)

cool .

remark: do you ever considered logo can be designed base on word "B" (its named bitlattice and special chain different from blockchain, i think B PLUS )   what about "B+" ?  maybe with 3D effect is better.

Right! At the present stage Bitlattice is a 3+2 dimensional structure so we should think about such logo. Thank you

Symbols inspired by letter B is kinda thing thats played out two years ago. Go back where u crawled from and borrow creativity from inhabitants of that hole. When u bump urself with additional influx of creativity u will reinstall ur photoshop libraries and buy a license for software u use, otherwise u will end up making logos in paint.


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: Depredation on February 24, 2017, 07:06:56 PM
I like the logo, looks interesting  :)


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: wtfc360 on February 24, 2017, 07:59:18 PM
 
New logo and website are ready bitlattice.org (http://bitlattice.org)

https://s3.postimg.org/b532buwyn/bilogo.png (https://postimg.org/image/b532buwyn/)

cool .

remark: do you ever considered logo can be designed base on word "B" (its named bitlattice and special chain different from blockchain, i think B PLUS )   what about "B+" ?  maybe with 3D effect is better.

Right! At the present stage Bitlattice is a 3+2 dimensional structure so we should think about such logo. Thank you

Symbols inspired by letter B is kinda thing thats played out two years ago. Go back where u crawled from and borrow creativity from inhabitants of that hole. When u bump urself with additional influx of creativity u will reinstall ur photoshop libraries and buy a license for software u use, otherwise u will end up making logos in paint.

Feel free synthgauge to show everyone how great you are and show us your own creativity! No one is holding you back, we can use your constructive ideas and better symbols if it's an improvement, although itīs just a symbol my friend... Thanks for the input.


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: Hibryda on February 24, 2017, 08:39:31 PM
 
New logo and website are ready bitlattice.org (http://bitlattice.org)

https://s3.postimg.org/b532buwyn/bilogo.png (https://postimg.org/image/b532buwyn/)

cool .

remark: do you ever considered logo can be designed base on word "B" (its named bitlattice and special chain different from blockchain, i think B PLUS )   what about "B+" ?  maybe with 3D effect is better.

Right! At the present stage Bitlattice is a 3+2 dimensional structure so we should think about such logo. Thank you

Symbols inspired by letter B is kinda thing thats played out two years ago. Go back where u crawled from and borrow creativity from inhabitants of that hole. When u bump urself with additional influx of creativity u will reinstall ur photoshop libraries and buy a license for software u use, otherwise u will end up making logos in paint.

I love you trolls, keep going!


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: wtfc360 on February 24, 2017, 09:32:07 PM
 
New logo and website are ready bitlattice.org (http://bitlattice.org)

https://s3.postimg.org/b532buwyn/bilogo.png (https://postimg.org/image/b532buwyn/)

cool .

remark: do you ever considered logo can be designed base on word "B" (its named bitlattice and special chain different from blockchain, i think B PLUS )   what about "B+" ?  maybe with 3D effect is better.

Right! At the present stage Bitlattice is a 3+2 dimensional structure so we should think about such logo. Thank you

Symbols inspired by letter B is kinda thing thats played out two years ago. Go back where u crawled from and borrow creativity from inhabitants of that hole. When u bump urself with additional influx of creativity u will reinstall ur photoshop libraries and buy a license for software u use, otherwise u will end up making logos in paint.

Feel free synthgauge to show everyone how great you are and show us your own creativity! No one is holding you back, we can use your constructive ideas and better symbols if it's an improvement, although itīs just a symbol my friend... Thanks for the input.

Oops, I got that wrong. Actually we don't need your advise... My bad.


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: biggernugs on February 24, 2017, 11:42:19 PM
So ya, I commented earlier kinda snarky....but after looking into to the idea and reading your answers I gotta say I'm excited about this. You've got a really unique approach to some limitations of the current blockchain and it looks like you know what you want to fix and are ready to do it. I'm all ears, to quote your ANN, this looks like a revolutionary step...& I'll gladly participate in it.

Don't worry, now the FAQ is up and running, people can read and contemplate what this project is about. Of course it's vague with scarce information and you lack the complete picture.
Since a couple of months back I have been privy to some inside information, like Usukan, regarding this project and I'm have been and continuously reading/studying this from the basic (compliments of Hibryda). End point being that Hibryda knows how to make this happen from theory to practice.


Sorry bud, you may have missed the tone of my original post. I was at first skeptical but I've read everything I can and have been in contact with Hibryda and have gained some insight into this project, both through the conversations & my research. I can truly say I'm all aboard. Most people will shy away because this isn't the traditional Bitcointalk ANN with fancy images & specs & what not. They won't even bother to read the info , they just turn away. While my first post was based off the initial ANN, I'm not one of them. I've researched and talked to Hibryda and that's why I posted what I did. As I told Hibryda this IMO is one of only a couple projects that look to address the problems with new ideas, not the same clone shit with a different approach. He's firm in his ideas and knows how to solve the problems. As you already know, this is the future, and if pulled off it will be huge. Like you, I'm glad to offer my support.


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: complexring on February 25, 2017, 03:30:26 AM
I think i got it.. Ambitious project if they can make it.
So, basically you guys want to create another kind of blockchain... instead of the traditional legder - unidimensional - block after block, same chain.... you guys want multiple levels with chains that will make connection with each other if needed... right, or too far from your idea?

In the present scheme of blockchain there is no possibility to perform more than two operations at once, stemming from the fact that every next blocks depends on the previous. Of course this is mitigated by packing multiple transactions into one block and hashing them collectively. But itís far from concurrency, rather itís just a way to deal with this very limited structure. In lattice things are different. There are multiple root points that are referred to from the main root. It resembles child chains in some applications, but is very different on the basic level of functionality.
With lattice, many operations can be performed at the same moment in time by different miners/processing units. And still the whole structure will retain integrity. Because clusters can but usually wonít overlap.

How is this structure fundamentally different from the tangle, i.e. what IOTA is doing?  What is the consensus model?  How do you handle Double Spending?  What are some of the various attacks that can be done with this model?

(from website bitlattice.org)
Quote
But at the same time it provides means for features like lattice encryption.

Can you expand on this?  I don't see how lattice encryption can be achieved from this structure. 


(from bitlattice.org)
Quote
Up to the point that one of the features in my idea acts exactly as synapses and I also postulate homomorphically encrypted seeded entities acting as local authorities and being "hidden variables" of this network, something that can be compared to a primitive consciousness.

I'm having a hard time parsing this statement.  What are the local authorities doing with HE?  And why bring in hidden variables to the mix? 

(from bitlattice.org/faq)
Quote
In homomorphic transformations leading to certain arrangement of lattice[.]

What precise transformations?

(from bitlattice.org/faq)
Quote
Those who will need to know details will read the whitepaper and associated docs. All math will be there. The rest will have dev docs aimed at providing comfortable interface.

I hope that's true as the current math available to this idea is extremely lacking ...


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: Hibryda on February 25, 2017, 05:09:43 AM
How is this structure fundamentally different from the tangle, i.e. what IOTA is doing?  What is the consensus model?  How do you handle Double Spending?  What are some of the various attacks that can be done with this model?
Thanks for questions.
This structure is fundamentally different in actually one aspect - abstract position of a node (tx or other native object) plays a role in further processing. Which is fundamental. Of course, down the line, all is being casted into graph of dependencies (and finally onto linear stream of bytes). Handy analogy here is in 3d emulation in games or other software. Some operations are first performed between 3d objects (like raycasting for instance), some are performed using graph representation of scene layout (FOV), finally all lands in some files. Each abstraction uses different properties of objects in question.
The consensus model that I prefer to apply is adjusted to this scheme PoS.
DS - as above.
Yet, I can change my mind in near future as I recently stumbled upon several interesting properties of my network that can be used to simplify consensus.
Attacks - depending on whether fully homomorphic entities work as expected, this network will not be forkable, thus no 51%. As to other attacks - Sybil is mainly a matter of chosen p2p base. I have to decide yet which one to use. Attacks based on mining would probably not apply. Also the time frame of confirmations from the network can render unconfirmed txs attacks futile. But the above is just an initial analysis that I can provide now, some factors can change situation in the future.

Quote
But at the same time it provides means for features like lattice encryption.
Can you expand on this?  I don't see how lattice encryption can be achieved from this structure.
Lattice is a structure where distance plays a role. For instance, shortest one. Or rather determination which is the shortest provided having some basis initial vectors supplying initial conditions. My structure actually is L^2 vector space. And on many steps I can provide a set of non co-linear vectors to leverage SVP or its variations.

Quote
Up to the point that one of the features in my idea acts exactly as synapses and I also postulate homomorphically encrypted seeded entities acting as local authorities and being "hidden variables" of this network, something that can be compared to a primitive consciousness.
I'm having a hard time parsing this statement.  What are the local authorities doing with HE?  And why bring in hidden variables to the mix?

Bear in mind that I tried to answer questions you found in FAQ in simplest way I could. Not always succeeded :) .
Local authorities are meant to be encrypted small programs that produce both encrypted and plain (or encrypted with known keys) output. As to hidden variables - they are meant to be the source of such variables. Variables that are intended to give incorruptible base for further operations.

Quote
In homomorphic transformations leading to certain arrangement of lattice[.]
What precise transformations?

Here again is a problem with 'lattice' and 'lattice' in two meanings, I suppose. Short, two points cannot occupy the same place in metric space. In such case they are equal. Moving a set of points by a vector in metric space preserves their structure. And so on...

Quote
Those who will need to know details will read the whitepaper and associated docs. All math will be there. The rest will have dev docs aimed at providing comfortable interface.
I hope that's true as the current math available to this idea is extremely lacking ...
I'd like to point out that this is very early announcement. And contrary to popular trend I prefer having fully functional and reliable scheme before publishing, instead of running all the time on beta versions :) .
And when I'll be damn sure about my postulates, I'll publish all in detail.


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: complexring on February 25, 2017, 06:25:54 AM
Looking forward to the new math ...


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: Hibryda on February 25, 2017, 06:48:33 AM
Looking forward to the new math ...
Wouldn't be new, just with emphasis on different things.


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: wtfc360 on February 25, 2017, 08:31:48 AM
So ya, I commented earlier kinda snarky....but after looking into to the idea and reading your answers I gotta say I'm excited about this. You've got a really unique approach to some limitations of the current blockchain and it looks like you know what you want to fix and are ready to do it. I'm all ears, to quote your ANN, this looks like a revolutionary step...& I'll gladly participate in it.

Don't worry, now the FAQ is up and running, people can read and contemplate what this project is about. Of course it's vague with scarce information and you lack the complete picture.
Since a couple of months back I have been privy to some inside information, like Usukan, regarding this project and I'm have been and continuously reading/studying this from the basic (compliments of Hibryda). End point being that Hibryda knows how to make this happen from theory to practice.


Sorry bud, you may have missed the tone of my original post. I was at first skeptical but I've read everything I can and have been in contact with Hibryda and have gained some insight into this project, both through the conversations & my research. I can truly say I'm all aboard. Most people will shy away because this isn't the traditional Bitcointalk ANN with fancy images & specs & what not. They won't even bother to read the info , they just turn away. While my first post was based off the initial ANN, I'm not one of them. I've researched and talked to Hibryda and that's why I posted what I did. As I told Hibryda this IMO is one of only a couple projects that look to address the problems with new ideas, not the same clone shit with a different approach. He's firm in his ideas and knows how to solve the problems. As you already know, this is the future, and if pulled off it will be huge. Like you, I'm glad to offer my support.
Ok, great! We appreciate the support!


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: Hibryda on February 25, 2017, 09:25:53 PM
We've updated our website to be more in line with 3d :) - please test by going to bitlattice.org/test (http://bitlattice.org/test) . If everything works well we'll switch to it. Currently it was tested in Chrome, FF and IE Edge (had to dust off Win for this task).
Furthermore, we'll add chat and/or forum in some not too distant future.


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: wtfc360 on February 25, 2017, 09:31:30 PM
Yes, works nice on Chrome!


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: logictense on February 25, 2017, 10:07:29 PM
U are fundamentally wrong about everything. Time elapses but u still have things undone, and burden of sorrow keeps u from moving forward towards new accomplishments because u are an ill minded flight attendant that mistakenly stumbled upon crypto thread during his everyday wanking rituals.


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: Hibryda on February 25, 2017, 10:23:18 PM
U are fundamentally wrong about everything. Time elapses but u still have things undone, and burden of sorrow keeps u from moving forward towards new accomplishments because u are an ill minded flight attendant that mistakenly stumbled upon crypto thread during his everyday wanking rituals.
Keep going!
Just in case, when you practice reading+understanding re-read intro post :)


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: complexring on February 25, 2017, 10:45:59 PM
Looking forward to the new math ...
Wouldn't be new, just with emphasis on different things.

If it hasn't been peer reviewed or published in any other form ... seems like it's newly discovered, hence new.

Either way, looking forward to it.


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: Hibryda on February 25, 2017, 11:03:37 PM
Looking forward to the new math ...
Wouldn't be new, just with emphasis on different things.

If it hasn't been peer reviewed or published in any other form ... seems like it's newly discovered, hence new.

Either way, looking forward to it.
If it's based on existing math (as most things around) with some added value, only this added value would be new. I don't like "discovery" word in such matters, better "new arrangement". Regardless definitions, I will keep you updated.


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: adhitthana on February 26, 2017, 12:39:33 AM
So..a blockchain is a chain of blocks. But Bitlatice is not a blockchain. So what is is?

Does it have blocks of information that get verified? 

Can you explain a little more what the "lattice"is. It's not clear.

Thanks


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: sugarbaby on February 26, 2017, 12:46:35 AM
So..a blockchain is a chain of blocks. But Bitlatice is not a blockchain. So what is is?

Does it have blocks of information that get verified? 

Can you explain a little more what the "lattice"is. It's not clear.

Thanks


In the present scheme of blockchain there is no possibility to perform more than two operations at once, stemming from the fact that every next blocks depends on the previous. Of course this is mitigated by packing multiple transactions into one block and hashing them collectively. But itís far from concurrency, rather itís just a way to deal with this very limited structure. In lattice things are different. There are multiple root points that are referred to from the main root. It resembles child chains in some applications, but is very different on the basic level of functionality.
With lattice, many operations can be performed at the same moment in time by different miners/processing units. And still the whole structure will retain integrity. Because clusters can but usually wonít overlap.


I think this can help you ;)


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: adhitthana on February 26, 2017, 12:51:15 AM
So..a blockchain is a chain of blocks. But Bitlatice is not a blockchain. So what is is?

Does it have blocks of information that get verified? 

Can you explain a little more what the "lattice"is. It's not clear.

Thanks


In the present scheme of blockchain there is no possibility to perform more than two operations at once, stemming from the fact that every next blocks depends on the previous. Of course this is mitigated by packing multiple transactions into one block and hashing them collectively. But itís far from concurrency, rather itís just a way to deal with this very limited structure. In lattice things are different. There are multiple root points that are referred to from the main root. It resembles child chains in some applications, but is very different on the basic level of functionality.
With lattice, many operations can be performed at the same moment in time by different miners/processing units. And still the whole structure will retain integrity. Because clusters can but usually wonít overlap.


I think this can help you ;)

Thank you, but TBH, I still don't understand what that is.
In a blockchain, the new block refers back to the previous block, but in bitlattice the new block refers back to.......what?


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: sugarbaby on February 26, 2017, 12:54:37 AM
So..a blockchain is a chain of blocks. But Bitlatice is not a blockchain. So what is is?

Does it have blocks of information that get verified?  

Can you explain a little more what the "lattice"is. It's not clear.

Thanks


In the present scheme of blockchain there is no possibility to perform more than two operations at once, stemming from the fact that every next blocks depends on the previous. Of course this is mitigated by packing multiple transactions into one block and hashing them collectively. But itís far from concurrency, rather itís just a way to deal with this very limited structure. In lattice things are different. There are multiple root points that are referred to from the main root. It resembles child chains in some applications, but is very different on the basic level of functionality.
With lattice, many operations can be performed at the same moment in time by different miners/processing units. And still the whole structure will retain integrity. Because clusters can but usually wonít overlap.


I think this can help you ;)

Thank you, but TBH, I still don't understand what that is.
In a blockchain, the new block refers back to the previous block, but in bitlattice the new block refers back to.......what?

It can be a new block in a new chain!


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: complexring on February 26, 2017, 01:00:49 AM
Looking forward to the new math ...
Wouldn't be new, just with emphasis on different things.

If it hasn't been peer reviewed or published in any other form ... seems like it's newly discovered, hence new.

Either way, looking forward to it.
If it's based on existing math (as most things around) with some added value, only this added value would be new. I don't like "discovery" word in such matters, better "new arrangement". Regardless definitions, I will keep you updated.

You can always discover a new arrangement; however you are right, and as such it doesn't matter and is just word play. 

Looking forward to the updates. 

8)


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: adhitthana on February 26, 2017, 01:10:23 AM


Thank you, but TBH, I still don't understand what that is.
In a blockchain, the new block refers back to the previous block, but in bitlattice the new block refers back to.......what?

It can be a new block in a new chain!
What does that block refer back to?
Are new chains being created that do not need to refer back to their original roots?

Is this anything like the slicing that HEAT is looking to do?

Or anything like Byteball?


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: Hibryda on February 26, 2017, 01:28:23 AM


Thank you, but TBH, I still don't understand what that is.
In a blockchain, the new block refers back to the previous block, but in bitlattice the new block refers back to.......what?

It can be a new block in a new chain!
What does that block refer back to?
Are new chains being created that do not need to refer back to their original roots?

Is this anything like the slicing that HEAT is looking to do?

Or anything like Byteball?
Forgive my interruption of your discuss...
First - not blocks, I call it nodes (because they differ from what is called blocks in blockchain). Second, provided more degrees of freedom they refer to from 4 to 26 other nodes. They must match combined hash and number of nodes included in such hash determines moment when the node was added.
//EDIT: One thing to add, testing order of insertion can possibly act as PoW provided there are time expensive hashing algos used. I prefer PoS, so this can act as a curiosity or be used for other purposes.


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: adhitthana on February 26, 2017, 03:09:24 AM


Thank you, but TBH, I still don't understand what that is.
In a blockchain, the new block refers back to the previous block, but in bitlattice the new block refers back to.......what?

It can be a new block in a new chain!
What does that block refer back to?
Are new chains being created that do not need to refer back to their original roots?

Is this anything like the slicing that HEAT is looking to do?

Or anything like Byteball?
Forgive my interruption of your discuss...
First - not blocks, I call it nodes (because they differ from what is called blocks in blockchain).
Thank you. Now, I know what a block is. And a block must contain information. It's pedigree, and cryptographic information etc....

But what information is in a Bitlattice node?

Each node contains combined hash and time of insertion?  And this enables it (with the help of other nodes) to verify later information that is added?

Is this like Byteball then?


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: Hibryda on February 26, 2017, 03:57:49 AM
Forgive my interruption of your discuss...
First - not blocks, I call it nodes (because they differ from what is called blocks in blockchain).
Thank you. Now, I know what a block is. And a block must contain information. It's pedigree, and cryptographic information etc....

But what information is in a Bitlattice node?

Each node contains combined hash and time of insertion?  And this enables it (with the help of other nodes) to verify later information that is added?

Is this like Byteball then?
Of course must contain data. It's primary role of blockchain. It's just a database (with built in immutability of data) Whether it's money, code, or plain bytes - doesn't actually matter. The same with BL - it stores data. There are different kind of nodes depending of their role. Some store transactions, some code.
Each node contains combined hashes. In blockchain, as well as in BL storing timestamp isn't wise - first, it's easy to forge, second network latency plays a role. Instead, what counts is position in time - which is previous, which is current and which is next (this can be determined with proofs). In BL, thanks to dependency on other nodes, this sequence can be guessed. And yes, this enables it to be verified.
As to Byteball - fundamental difference is in structure. Byteball is built upon DAG, mine is much different.


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: andreibi on February 26, 2017, 05:41:09 PM
So ya, I commented earlier kinda snarky....but after looking into to the idea and reading your answers I gotta say I'm excited about this. You've got a really unique approach to some limitations of the current blockchain and it looks like you know what you want to fix and are ready to do it. I'm all ears, to quote your ANN, this looks like a revolutionary step...& I'll gladly participate in it.

Don't worry, now the FAQ is up and running, people can read and contemplate what this project is about. Of course it's vague with scarce information and you lack the complete picture.
Since a couple of months back I have been privy to some inside information, like Usukan, regarding this project and I'm have been and continuously reading/studying this from the basic (compliments of Hibryda). End point being that Hibryda knows how to make this happen from theory to practice.


Sorry bud, you may have missed the tone of my original post. I was at first skeptical but I've read everything I can and have been in contact with Hibryda and have gained some insight into this project, both through the conversations & my research. I can truly say I'm all aboard. Most people will shy away because this isn't the traditional Bitcointalk ANN with fancy images & specs & what not. They won't even bother to read the info , they just turn away. While my first post was based off the initial ANN, I'm not one of them. I've researched and talked to Hibryda and that's why I posted what I did. As I told Hibryda this IMO is one of only a couple projects that look to address the problems with new ideas, not the same clone shit with a different approach. He's firm in his ideas and knows how to solve the problems. As you already know, this is the future, and if pulled off it will be huge. Like you, I'm glad to offer my support.

I like where this is going. Continue with tests and experimentation! +1


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: sunanchi on February 27, 2017, 05:16:24 AM
keep going, i like this idea.


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: sidhujag on February 27, 2017, 07:51:07 PM
Please, please start with unit tests, so we can read and understand, the worst is when people jump into coding without writing tests first. Test-driven development is a must. I would say when dealing with money, anything under 75% code coverage is not good enough for a mainnet. Looking fwd to the tests so I can understand your system Hibryda,

Cheers,
Jag(From linked in)


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: Hibryda on February 27, 2017, 10:53:09 PM
Please, please start with unit tests, so we can read and understand, the worst is when people jump into coding without writing tests first. Test-driven development is a must. I would say when dealing with money, anything under 75% code coverage is not good enough for a mainnet. Looking fwd to the tests so I can understand your system Hibryda,

Cheers,
Jag(From linked in)

Absolutely, agree. But before I'll jump into making a client I have to test multiple smaller chunks to prove they work. In addition to unit tests and proofs where possible, I will also employ stochastic testbed of my idea to find scenarios that are hard to predict (at least some of them). So, don't worry. Will have proper test coverage contrary to popular practice :) .


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: Hibryda on February 27, 2017, 10:55:55 PM
I like where this is going. Continue with tests and experimentation! +1
keep going, i like this idea.
Thank you both for support - while it is supposed to take some time (not 8 years, not even a year) I will keep you updated.


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: Hibryda on February 28, 2017, 02:02:04 AM
I am going to publish here my answers to constructive questions from other resources too.

Q: Oracles are centralization components are you sure you need this esp at consensus level? How do you solve the byzantine generals problem with lattice structure?
H: I won't use oracles in current sense (what is in description now is often simplified to be easier to picture, but sometimes introduces interpretation problems). Oracles depend on external inputs, I use entities that derive their output only from internal (network wide) state.

As to BFT - the issue with BG is always when there are multiple "generals", thus authorities. There are basically two solutions to this - have one external supervisor (which is against all that BC represents) or play with roles and their dependencies (LSP). I suggest third - built in, network wide, distributed authority. Inaccessible by anyone. Just providing steering output.


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: Mihawk on February 28, 2017, 02:13:26 AM
Is there at least one website to visit? Why all this suspense? Is it ICO?
People are tired of being cheated!  :(


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: Hibryda on February 28, 2017, 02:44:39 AM
Is there at least one website to visit? Why all this suspense? Is it ICO?
People are tired of being cheated!  :(

Here is the link to the website http://bitlattice.org/ (http://bitlattice.org/)
You can follow us on twitter https://twitter.com/bitlattice (https://twitter.com/bitlattice)

There is no ico plan, read previous posts and learn more.


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: BTC Community on February 28, 2017, 02:15:21 PM
great ,if any progress for bitlattice , let us know about it. thanks


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: sunanchi on February 28, 2017, 03:24:57 PM
Is there at least one website to visit? Why all this suspense? Is it ICO?
People are tired of being cheated!  :(

Here is the link to the website http://bitlattice.org/ (http://bitlattice.org/)
You can follow us on twitter https://twitter.com/bitlattice (https://twitter.com/bitlattice)

There is no ico plan, read previous posts and learn more.

if there is no ico plan
how can i join.
coding , btc,and ...
I can translate some things into Chinese


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: BitcoinLady on March 01, 2017, 01:18:24 AM
Quote
if there is no ico plan
how can i join.
coding , btc,and ...
I can translate some things into Chinese

Nice to hear that Bitlattice project sparked your interest.
If you want to join us as developer write to dev@bitlattice.org
If you want to become firsttier investor write to investor@bitlattice.org
If you want to help with translation or in some other way write to bitlattice@bitlattice.org


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: sunanchi on March 01, 2017, 03:02:19 AM
Quote
if there is no ico plan
how can i join.
coding , btc,and ...
I can translate some things into Chinese

Nice to hear that Bitlattice project sparked your interest.
If you want to join us as developer write to dev@bitlattice.org
If you want to become firsttier investor write to investor@bitlattice.org
If you want to help with translation or in some other way write to bitlattice@bitlattice.org
I have sent an email and look forward to your reply


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: BitcoinLady on March 01, 2017, 01:09:18 PM
Quote
if there is no ico plan
how can i join.
coding , btc,and ...
I can translate some things into Chinese

Nice to hear that Bitlattice project sparked your interest.
If you want to join us as developer write to dev@bitlattice.org
If you want to become firsttier investor write to investor@bitlattice.org
If you want to help with translation or in some other way write to bitlattice@bitlattice.org
I have sent an email and look forward to your reply
Thank you, answers should be on your box already:)


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: Hibryda on March 01, 2017, 01:41:05 PM
great ,if any progress for bitlattice , let us know about it. thanks

What I work at the moment - many things at once :) .
Just today and yesterday I tested some possible location sensitive hashing solutions to be mixed with cryptographic hashes of nodes.
The outcome is that the simplest and best solution is just to use simple indexing in this respect. Maybe not entirely simple as it's supposed to be base minus two or minus four. And stacked spirals :) . It's just most efficient.
 
Also today I discussed initial idea of protocols. While we could use existing ones they are far from quality of "industrial" heavy duty ones.
So, one of guys that offered his full engagement into my project will design and prepare implementation of a set of two protocols to serve as network basis for Bitlattice.
One of them is crucial, as it will serve as measuring protocol to define network surroundings of a client and provide broadcast about latency distribution. Frankly, I'm happy that someone would deal with these matters instead of me - it lets me focus solely on internal issues instead.
The guy is in financial networks and AI issues since many years. So can give it to him without fear.

These are only two days and major things I dealt in this time. If you are interested about some specific issues - ask. When time permits will answer.


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: Hibryda on March 05, 2017, 09:12:01 PM
  
   As to Artificial Intelligence - this is the basic idea of Bitlattice - to have built in control authority that cannot be read or affected from outside (encrypted end to end, providing just decrypted control output).
As to other AI considerations - while self defense is one thing, some more sophisticated mechanisms are possible.
If I manage to make it possible to seed homomorphically encrypted entities at any time of lattice's life they can act as "neurons" with hidden processing. This gives just an ocean of possibilities  :)


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: BTC Community on March 08, 2017, 04:11:07 AM
   
   As to Artificial Intelligence - this is the basic idea of Bitlattice - to have built in control authority that cannot be read or affected from outside (encrypted end to end, providing just decrypted control output).
As to other AI considerations - while self defense is one thing, some more sophisticated mechanisms are possible.
If I manage to make it possible to seed homomorphically encrypted entities at any time of lattice's life they can act as "neurons" with hidden processing. This gives just an ocean of possibilities  :)
base idea but something significant , great.


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: Hibryda on March 08, 2017, 08:35:21 PM
  
Funds for further research and development for this year 2017 are already secured.

This is obvious that some technical details I am reluctant to disclose, as it would require me to file patent applications (which worldwide is costly). Some I disclose and we (MaStudio) do it on a regular basis here on bitcointalk and on our website.

http://bitlattice.org/


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: usukan on March 10, 2017, 06:14:45 AM
 
As to Artificial Intelligence - this is the basic idea of Bitlattice - to have built in control authority that cannot be read or affected from outside (encrypted end to end, providing just decrypted control output).
As to other AI considerations - while self defense is one thing, some more sophisticated mechanisms are possible.
If I manage to make it possible to seed homomorphically encrypted entities at any time of lattice's life they can act as "neurons" with hidden processing. This gives just an ocean of possibilities  :)

Hi Hibryda

Reminded me quickly of this famous quote.

http://i.imgur.com/g116xtQ.jpg

Still watching and glad you report sufficient funding for near term stages.  I'm really wondering just where the limits of this new tech end up. At first I had the same problem with blockchain - now I have to deal with BitLattice which is like setting foot - yet again - in the "New World".

Good luck and hope to be able to support this project soon.

Cheers - usukan



Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: Hibryda on March 10, 2017, 01:45:49 PM
 
As to Artificial Intelligence - this is the basic idea of Bitlattice - to have built in control authority that cannot be read or affected from outside (encrypted end to end, providing just decrypted control output).
As to other AI considerations - while self defense is one thing, some more sophisticated mechanisms are possible.
If I manage to make it possible to seed homomorphically encrypted entities at any time of lattice's life they can act as "neurons" with hidden processing. This gives just an ocean of possibilities  :)

Hi Hibryda

Reminded me quickly of this famous quote.

http://i.imgur.com/g116xtQ.jpg

Still watching and glad you report sufficient funding for near term stages.  I'm really wondering just where the limits of this new tech end up. At first I had the same problem with blockchain - now I have to deal with BitLattice which is like setting foot - yet again - in the "New World".

Good luck and hope to be able to support this project soon.

Cheers - usukan
As to my quote - I paste here fragments of my discussions with other devs. And this particular touches physical limitations of worldwide network. As Bitlattice is meant to be able to operate in clusters without need of having too many full nodes, it's viable to have built in AI mechanisms in it. For the same reason of physical limitations (actually speed of chemical/electrical signal via calcium channel) brains are organized in a way that parts of them can act autonomously to a certain extent. Bitlattice can mimic this by having separate clusters that contact with the rest of network only when it's needed. Thus, when clusters are small more sophisticated operations can be performed within them without need to synchronize them with the rest of network and without impacting overall efficiency.
But this is still a matter of further research and finding best ways to isolate clusters - something I work on now.

Cheers, H


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: gadsden76 on March 21, 2017, 07:22:36 PM
Hello folks,

I am very interested in BitLattice and will be keeping up to date with its progress.  I am also interested in investing in the technology if need be. 
I sent an email to BitLattice, and look forward to hearing back. 

Thanks!

-Gadsden


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: Hibryda on March 22, 2017, 01:11:26 AM
Hello folks,

I am very interested in BitLattice and will be keeping up to date with its progress.  I am also interested in investing in the technology if need be. 
I sent an email to BitLattice, and look forward to hearing back. 

Thanks!

-Gadsden

Hi Gadsden,

Nice to hear that Bitlattice idea sparked your interest and that you want to learn more. Because it's so rare nowadays (wish to learn).
I always welcome constructive questions.


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: Mihawk on April 21, 2017, 06:49:32 PM
Hello, is this project still alive? It's been over a month since no updates...


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: Hibryda on April 21, 2017, 07:33:12 PM
Hello, is this project still alive? It's been over a month since no updates...
Yes, the project is still alive and on schedule. I just see no purpose to update just for update. Which is possibly wrong, but I'm anything but marketing guy.
Will certainly update if some milestones are reached (like prototype client) and will answer questions.


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: andreibi on May 06, 2017, 11:34:43 AM
May I suggest launching a testnet at least? I'm sure many won't mind if it's buggy as hell.


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: Trololoh on May 06, 2017, 11:31:20 PM
May I suggest launching a testnet at least? I'm sure many won't mind if it's buggy as hell.
Always fun to play with new stuff.


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: Hibryda on May 08, 2017, 01:16:55 AM
Update

Work is in progress in several areas. First of all basic tx operations using different vectors of operation have been initially tested. They still need to be refined in terms of reliability. Meanwhile works on a network protocol are before test phase. BL will use custom toroid based network protocol making use of resolving tensors with machine learning algorithm. While there are similar solutions in the wild we prefer to have custom made one due to specific needs of BL. To perform live tests we build now a server rig capable of simulating controlled network environment (32 cores for VMs, VMs running multiple simple end nodes, lots of net hardware and cables :) ).

May I suggest launching a testnet at least? I'm sure many won't mind if it's buggy as hell.
Always fun to play with new stuff.
There will be testnet. Cannot however say now precisely when. If BL would be a fork of some blockchain based solution there will be little issue with providing testnet fast. However, BL isn't blockchain at all, it has similar properties, but is different at a base level. Thus, the client must be written almost from scratch. It have to take some time to bind all the features into one concise piece of code.
So, be patient, it will come.

Hibryda


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: informo on May 18, 2017, 12:34:22 AM
is the toroid based network protocol for replicating transactions between nodes, rather than the topography of the chain (a hyper-lattice) ?


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: Hibryda on May 18, 2017, 03:35:01 PM
is the toroid based network protocol for replicating transactions between nodes, rather than the topography of the chain (a hyper-lattice) ?
Yes, the protocol will serve replicating transactions. It's main advantage is being based on ML prediction that in turn would benefit in speed gains. It has nothing to do with lattice structure topography, however it will be adapted to serve lattice it in the first place. A side note - contrary to possible first impression, toroidal abstraction is actually 2d instead of 3d.


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: informo on May 19, 2017, 04:12:35 AM
could the toroid based network protocol be a good infrastructure for replicating information on a network in general, like for example, as an alternative or a competitor to TCP/IP, BitTorrent, or IPFS?


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: Hibryda on May 19, 2017, 09:23:31 PM
could the toroid based network protocol be a good infrastructure for replicating information on a network in general, like for example, as an alternative or a competitor to TCP/IP, BitTorrent, or IPFS?
Certainly not all network layers (because you mixed several network layers protocols in your question). In general there are attempts in the wild to use similar approach to replace p2p class protocols. BL protocol is designed to serve BL and give throughput benefits by leveraging machine learning prediction abilities, GPU boost when available (to be close to real time in reaction to changes of net topology) and alike. Thus, it's not meant to be general use protocol, however if it proves reliable and performant (and we design it with simplicity in mind) then with minor changes can be applied elsewhere.


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: BitcoinLady on June 23, 2017, 07:00:49 PM
    
 Cryptocoins depend on many concepts that should be understood before going deeper. Unfortunately, to understand it properly there is no shortcut. As to Bitlattice - a catch is that it's not a blockchain. There are common points, but mostly approach differs. So, base knowledge about computing issues can help a lot.

Our free guide 'knowledge matters' is already available on http://bitcoinwoman.com/#/knowledge/list (http://bitcoinwoman.com/#/knowledge/list)

 


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: andreibi on July 07, 2017, 06:04:13 AM
No test network yet?


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: Hibryda on July 09, 2017, 07:20:27 AM
No test network yet?
No. And because it's written from scratch, with no general scheme that could be borrowed from other sources, it takes time. Surely more than 2 months that elapsed since you last asked me about the same. While we wrote prototype skeleton clients already it's still long way to have them publishable. But we are on schedule still.
I'll notify you when testnet is ready to play and hack, I'm glad that you are looking for it.


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: andreibi on July 11, 2017, 06:05:53 AM
No test network yet?
No. And because it's written from scratch, with no general scheme that could be borrowed from other sources, it takes time. Surely more than 2 months that elapsed since you last asked me about the same. While we wrote prototype skeleton clients already it's still long way to have them publishable. But we are on schedule still.
I'll notify you when testnet is ready to play and hack, I'm glad that you are looking for it.

Yes, I'm very interested in lattice or tangle type of crypto. That's why I'm heavily into IOTA, Byteball and Raiblocks. I wonder what differentiates BitLattice from the ones I mentioned since you said you're starting from scratch.


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: Hibryda on July 11, 2017, 09:27:21 AM
No test network yet?
No. And because it's written from scratch, with no general scheme that could be borrowed from other sources, it takes time. Surely more than 2 months that elapsed since you last asked me about the same. While we wrote prototype skeleton clients already it's still long way to have them publishable. But we are on schedule still.
I'll notify you when testnet is ready to play and hack, I'm glad that you are looking for it.

Yes, I'm very interested in lattice or tangle type of crypto. That's why I'm heavily into IOTA, Byteball and Raiblocks. I wonder what differentiates BitLattice from the ones I mentioned since you said you're starting from scratch.
First - it's not a blockchain. Second - it has a metric structure. Most of differences I already mentioned above. Please be more specific.


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: informo on July 11, 2017, 03:20:08 PM

Yes, I'm very interested in lattice or tangle type of crypto. That's why I'm heavily into IOTA, Byteball and Raiblocks. I wonder what differentiates BitLattice from the ones I mentioned since you said you're starting from scratch.

I am still learning about BitLattice. From how I understand it so far, BitLattice has refined some of the ideas behind Tangle and Byteball, and done so to the point that it is almost not comparable. Just like in Tangle and Byteball, transactions are appended to previous transactions, but besides that, BitLattice also organises transactions into a fixed topology (the hyper-lattice) which in itself makes it possible to build functions on top of it. The lattice is a spatial field, which means that certain types of mathematics that apply to spatial fields can be performed on top of the lattice. The possibility for lattice-based mathematics, including lattice-based cryptography, and also wave functions throughout the lattice as a spatial field for proof-of-structure, and similar things, are what is made possible with a lattice, and so yes, BitLattice appends transactions in ways that are slightly similar to Tangle and ByteBall, but it does so in ways that make all sorts of new math possible.


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: usukan on July 17, 2017, 09:10:25 PM
Greetings Hibryda

I'm glad to see this project is still progressing - and in a nice careful way.

IMO there really is no rush to get just "something" out there on testnet.

Best work carefully and slowly through all of this so all aspects are considered as carefully as possible and the best solutions are implemented in testnet and beyond.  I can see this is absolutely groundbreaking work with little to compare or copy from.  I really can appreciate the complexities and I don't envy your job (albeit I can see the excitement of bringing this to life).

I continue to watch this project carefully and wish you all the best in your endeavors.

I look forward to having a good play around in the Bitlattice platform.


Cheers - usukan


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: freo on August 15, 2017, 02:15:45 PM
Any updates on the progress of this project?  Is there an ICO in sight?


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: BitcoinLady on August 16, 2017, 01:26:56 PM
https://twitter.com/Hibryda/status/896166039456591872 (https://twitter.com/Hibryda/status/896166039456591872)
https://twitter.com/Hibryda/status/896168702235869184 (https://twitter.com/Hibryda/status/896168702235869184)

As to ICO - it's possible that at the end of this year we'll run limited scale public ICO just to popularize the idea, but first we intend to publish whitepaper together with working prototype.


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: freo on August 16, 2017, 02:13:18 PM
Ok, thanks i will look forward to the whitepaper and pre-ICO later in the year.


Title: Re: [ANN][BITLATTICE] A Revolutionary Step - Bitlattice.org
Post by: btcdee on August 17, 2017, 06:44:45 PM
Ok, thanks i will look forward to the whitepaper and pre-ICO later in the year.

Same here. Following this project with great interest.