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Title: Which Graphic Card
Post by: gondel on February 27, 2017, 10:34:36 AM
Hello,
I want to invest in a mining rig and start with 6 cards, but I am really confused which VGA to choose exactly.
Found that those RX 480 are the best at the moment, but not sure which one is the best option, should I buy card with more RAM or it does not matter? Just name which exactly is the best at the moment regarding money invested, electricity spent and ROI. Please help!
THANK YOU!


Title: Re: Which Graphic Card
Post by: Noisyninja on February 27, 2017, 11:27:42 AM
I'd also like to know. I run on AMD right now, but I am considering to buy a new computer in the near future, so it would be interesting to have some background info


Title: Re: Which Graphic Card
Post by: eckmar on February 27, 2017, 12:42:46 PM
Currently best card overall is RX 470. Yeah RX 480 does get better hashrate but power draw is also higher and for price difference between them it's not worth it. Between 4gb and 8gb difference is is memory speed. 8gb cards have higher speed and will get slightly better hashrate but again it's not worth it due to price difference


Title: Re: Which Graphic Card
Post by: emdje on February 27, 2017, 01:56:06 PM
I would go AMD as well, but would wait for the release of the new cards, that is not that far of in the future.
Then either buy the new cards, or buy the massive amounts of 2nd hand cards that will flood the market relatively cheap :)


Title: Re: Which Graphic Card
Post by: RentGPU on February 27, 2017, 02:07:23 PM
Hello,
I want to invest in a mining rig and start with 6 cards, but I am really confused which VGA to choose exactly.
Found that those RX 480 are the best at the moment, but not sure which one is the best option, should I buy card with more RAM or it does not matter? Just name which exactly is the best at the moment regarding money invested, electricity spent and ROI. Please help!
THANK YOU!
Some nVidia users now say there is good results with the 1060 and 1070 but the card price isn't good in calculating roi , it always depends on your calculations , ROI , value of investment , electricity price for sure you can't neglect that.


Title: Re: Which Graphic Card
Post by: eckmar on February 27, 2017, 06:42:05 PM
Hello,
I want to invest in a mining rig and start with 6 cards, but I am really confused which VGA to choose exactly.
Found that those RX 480 are the best at the moment, but not sure which one is the best option, should I buy card with more RAM or it does not matter? Just name which exactly is the best at the moment regarding money invested, electricity spent and ROI. Please help!
THANK YOU!
Some nVidia users now say there is good results with the 1060 and 1070 but the card price isn't good in calculating roi , it always depends on your calculations , ROI , value of investment , electricity price for sure you can't neglect that.
Nvidia is only good at Equihash algorithm. On any other algorithm it's basically shit compared with price and performance of AMD card. And pretty much only  good coin on Equihash is Zcash which is dying. I would stay away from Nvidia cards now


Title: Re: Which Graphic Card
Post by: mojoxc on February 27, 2017, 07:46:37 PM
Stick to AMD for mining I have some 1070s and the only thing they are good at is Zcash and decred.  The 470s have a lot more options for mining and are super cheap.


Title: Re: Which Graphic Card
Post by: RentGPU on February 27, 2017, 09:06:03 PM
Hello,
I want to invest in a mining rig and start with 6 cards, but I am really confused which VGA to choose exactly.
Found that those RX 480 are the best at the moment, but not sure which one is the best option, should I buy card with more RAM or it does not matter? Just name which exactly is the best at the moment regarding money invested, electricity spent and ROI. Please help!
THANK YOU!
Some nVidia users now say there is good results with the 1060 and 1070 but the card price isn't good in calculating roi , it always depends on your calculations , ROI , value of investment , electricity price for sure you can't neglect that.
Nvidia is only good at Equihash algorithm. On any other algorithm it's basically shit compared with price and performance of AMD card. And pretty much only  good coin on Equihash is Zcash which is dying. I would stay away from Nvidia cards now

Alot of coders now do alot of software for cuda gpus pushing thier hashrate in alot of algos like what you said equihash and also there is LBRY it's only for nVidia , amd cards are shit on LBRY , some dual mining miners reported good hashes/watts ratio for nVidia.


Title: Re: Which Graphic Card
Post by: eckmar on February 27, 2017, 09:51:36 PM
Hello,
I want to invest in a mining rig and start with 6 cards, but I am really confused which VGA to choose exactly.
Found that those RX 480 are the best at the moment, but not sure which one is the best option, should I buy card with more RAM or it does not matter? Just name which exactly is the best at the moment regarding money invested, electricity spent and ROI. Please help!
THANK YOU!
Some nVidia users now say there is good results with the 1060 and 1070 but the card price isn't good in calculating roi , it always depends on your calculations , ROI , value of investment , electricity price for sure you can't neglect that.
Nvidia is only good at Equihash algorithm. On any other algorithm it's basically shit compared with price and performance of AMD card. And pretty much only  good coin on Equihash is Zcash which is dying. I would stay away from Nvidia cards now

Alot of coders now do alot of software for cuda gpus pushing thier hashrate in alot of algos like what you said equihash and also there is LBRY it's only for nVidia , amd cards are shit on LBRY , some dual mining miners reported good hashes/watts ratio for nVidia.
Look at percentage of people that is mining LBRY. It's so insignificant that no one even cares. I don't think developers will put much effort into developing CUDA algos mainly because of Nvidia card prices.


Title: Re: Which Graphic Card
Post by: gondel on February 28, 2017, 09:56:51 AM
Currently best card overall is RX 470. Yeah RX 480 does get better hashrate but power draw is also higher and for price difference between them it's not worth it. Between 4gb and 8gb difference is is memory speed. 8gb cards have higher speed and will get slightly better hashrate but again it's not worth it due to price difference
Thanks for the answers! So basically difference between 4gb and 8 gb is not much and it does not worth it to buy 8gb?
I would invest in something which costs more but have better ROI in shorter period of time.
At cryptocompare just saw that the rx 470 and rx480 are giving same speed of 220 h for ZEC.
Also another thing: do you think it worth buying a second hand cards as they were probably almost burned from mining already and there is a huge chance that cards to stop working in a day or two and there is no warrancy for them?
Thanks!


Title: Re: Which Graphic Card
Post by: Bulletdodger on February 28, 2017, 02:22:22 PM
I'm getting 480 8 gigs, cause I can get it cheaply, but now I have 1070 and 970 which are making me like $3-4 daily in btc (zec mining),
which is very good, I guess.
But who knows how long will ZEC's moon last (not long I believe).

For everything else, obviously AMD is the king.


Title: Re: Which Graphic Card
Post by: italianMiner72 on February 28, 2017, 02:44:45 PM
...which are making me like $3-4 daily in btc (zec mining),which is very good, I guess.

mmmm
you are not considering power cost???


Title: Re: Which Graphic Card
Post by: gondel on February 28, 2017, 03:52:51 PM
I'm getting 480 8 gigs, cause I can get it cheaply, but now I have 1070 and 970 which are making me like $3-4 daily in btc (zec mining),
which is very good, I guess.
But who knows how long will ZEC's moon last (not long I believe).

For everything else, obviously AMD is the king.

I am living in Bulgaria, the average price of 480 8gb is $320 each for new one with 3 years warranty. Shluld I consider ordering six from somewhere else online? Also are those cards going to be useful if the coins which are profitable now fail?
Thanks!


Title: Re: Which Graphic Card
Post by: Golku on February 28, 2017, 04:17:37 PM
I would go for the RX 470

Much cheaper then other cards

has a good hashing/power performance


Title: Re: Which Graphic Card
Post by: Armstand on February 28, 2017, 05:56:57 PM
Hello,
I want to invest in a mining rig and start with 6 cards, but I am really confused which VGA to choose exactly.
Found that those RX 480 are the best at the moment, but not sure which one is the best option, should I buy card with more RAM or it does not matter? Just name which exactly is the best at the moment regarding money invested, electricity spent and ROI. Please help!
THANK YOU!

If you can get cheap R9 nano, it is a good performer.


Title: Re: Which Graphic Card
Post by: Mister305 on February 28, 2017, 05:59:40 PM
Rx 470 !


Title: Re: Which Graphic Card
Post by: RentGPU on February 28, 2017, 07:14:58 PM
If you would go for the amd i recommend you the rx 470 msi gaming x this card is good at hashes/watts and also msi twin frozer is very good in cooling i have 4 of this card temp never exceed 50c, i have 2 gigabyte versions but very poor cooling always gigabyte is more 5-10c than the msi (same fan speed)


Title: Re: Which Graphic Card
Post by: gondel on February 28, 2017, 10:34:49 PM
If you would go for the amd i recommend you the rx 470 msi gaming x this card is good at hashes/watts and also msi twin frozer is very good in cooling i have 4 of this card temp never exceed 50c, i have 2 gigabyte versions but very poor cooling always gigabyte is more 5-10c than the msi (same fan speed)
THANKS!
But isnt rx 480 going to keep the better price for more time after mining for 2 years?
If I want to sell my equipment after 1-2 years isnt the rx 480 will keep the better price?
Also guys, 4 or 8 gb is better to buy? I got some advises for both and I am really confused.
Thanks!


Title: Re: Which Graphic Card
Post by: Bulletdodger on February 28, 2017, 11:35:45 PM
...which are making me like $3-4 daily in btc (zec mining),which is very good, I guess.

mmmm
you are not considering power cost???


Yes, that is without power cost $0.6 per day roughly.

@gondel,
I'm going to order from hungarian company - www.iponcomp.com


Title: Re: Which Graphic Card
Post by: gondel on March 01, 2017, 06:53:12 AM
...which are making me like $3-4 daily in btc (zec mining),which is very good, I guess.

mmmm
you are not considering power cost???


Yes, that is without power cost $0.6 per day roughly.

@gondel,
I'm going to order from hungarian company - www.iponcomp.com
Hi,
This website looks broken.
So guys you think 470 is better to start with then 480?
I have around $2000 ( two thousand to stat with) and want to do it asap. If you are about to put 2k what is the thing you will stat with?
Thanks!


Title: Re: Which Graphic Card
Post by: bit815792215 on March 01, 2017, 06:59:31 AM
I think power delivery issues are more common in the 470 but I dont know for sure. I would get the 480.


Title: Re: Which Graphic Card
Post by: gondel on March 01, 2017, 05:12:12 PM
I think power delivery issues are more common in the 470 but I dont know for sure. I would get the 480.
So 480 4 gb is the best one at the moment?
I would like to start with 6 cards guys and update you with some pictures when I have them build in a rig. My electricity is relatively cheap so hopefully will get at least 7% monthly return, do you think 7% is possible with rig 6 cards 480?
Thanks!


Title: Re: Which Graphic Card
Post by: gondel on March 02, 2017, 02:20:45 PM
On cryptocomapre there is the following info:


Radeon Rx 480 GPU


Price $ 199.00 Hash Rate 25.0 MH/s Coin ETH Annual Minings $ 220.90

and


Radeon RX 470 Ethereum Mining GPU

Price $ 219.00 Hash Rate 24.0 MH/s Coin ETH Annual Minings $ 205.75   

The difference between the two for mining ETH is 1 MH, wich is around $17 per year.
Which one you suggest is better and also is that info true?
Thanks!