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Title: Everything is going to be ok.
Post by: Hexadecibel on March 09, 2017, 08:24:46 PM
Things are looking up in my opinion.


Title: Re: Everything is going to be ok.
Post by: Bitcoin_Mafia_Me on March 09, 2017, 08:26:18 PM
Things are definitely looking up. Sadly I sold most of my bitcoin last month to pay bills.  So now I'll just
start again doing web development, SEO, article writing, etc... for bitcoin.


Title: Re: Everything is going to be ok.
Post by: FiendCoin on March 09, 2017, 09:21:16 PM
Things are looking up in my opinion.


I thought they were as well until I realized that China was trying to take control of Bitcoin and many western BU supporters don't seem to understand it or maybe they don't care to because they only see a Core conspiracy.


Title: Re: Everything is going to be ok.
Post by: Iranus on March 09, 2017, 09:23:42 PM
True but there might still be a long way ahead before the price and Bitcoin's adoption starts properly soaring.  Either BU or SegWit needs to be implemented or Bitcoin's use as a currency will suffer.  The ETF needs to be approved and, for this forum, the new forum needs to be implemented.  Then, there's no telling how far Bitcoin could go, especially with near-instant transactions and the fact that it deflates by nature.


Title: Re: Everything is going to be ok.
Post by: Hexadecibel on March 09, 2017, 11:31:44 PM
Things are looking up in my opinion.


I thought they were as well until I realized that China was trying to take control of Bitcoin and many western BU supporters don't seem to understand it or maybe they don't care to because they only see a Core conspiracy.

Odd, I thought the only thing China was doing was supporting superior software.


Title: Re: Everything is going to be ok.
Post by: eule on March 09, 2017, 11:34:20 PM
I don't know, all this infighting lately surely seems weird to outsiders. Also the slow transaction-/high fee-problem must be addressed asap.

Otherwise things are looking great. :P


Title: Re: Everything is going to be ok.
Post by: Hexadecibel on March 09, 2017, 11:39:40 PM
I don't know, all this infighting lately surely seems weird to outsiders. Also the slow transaction-/high fee-problem must be addressed asap.

Otherwise things are looking great. :P

Yes, I'm sure it is weird to newbs. The "Core" developers do not own Bitcoin. They have been blocking attempts to address scaling while trying to implement a half-baked solution that directly benefits themselves and cripples Bitcoin. What you are seeing is the market rejection of Bitcoin Core.


Title: Re: Everything is going to be ok.
Post by: Slark on March 09, 2017, 11:52:55 PM
Things are looking up in my opinion.


I thought they were as well until I realized that China was trying to take control of Bitcoin and many western BU supporters don't seem to understand it or maybe they don't care to because they only see a Core conspiracy.
So at this point we have a 'core conspiracy', Blockstream backdoor theory, Chinese hostile takeover via BU and maybe half dozen other conspiracy theories.
Where is that one scaling option which is not linked to anything scary? I realized that upgrading bitcoin is a choice between to evils and there is no good way.
Bitcoin Unlimited = Chinese dictatorship, SegWit = Blockstram influence. Maybe it is time for another solution?



Title: Re: Everything is going to be ok.
Post by: Hexadecibel on March 10, 2017, 12:01:04 AM
BU = Nakamoto's Consensus

As described in Satoshi's white paper.


Title: Re: Everything is going to be ok.
Post by: ImHash on March 10, 2017, 12:06:11 AM
I don't see any where people "rejecting" bitcoin core, all I see is the majority of nodes and miners supporting and running their software.


Title: Re: Everything is going to be ok.
Post by: Hexadecibel on March 10, 2017, 12:08:51 AM
I don't see any where people "rejecting" bitcoin core, all I see is the majority of nodes and miners supporting and running their software.

I'm rejecting Bitcoin Core. So there's one.

Most miners are not supporting SegWit, but Bitcoin Unlimited. You'll be seeing more of that.


Title: Re: Everything is going to be ok.
Post by: unamis76 on March 10, 2017, 12:09:58 AM
I agree with the title of thread but not with what the first post says... The chain isn't stopped so it can always get worse :P

Jokes aside, we are indeed reaching a new low, so it can only go up from here, I guess...


Title: Re: Everything is going to be ok.
Post by: serjent05 on March 10, 2017, 12:16:24 AM
Things are looking up in my opinion.


I thought they were as well until I realized that China was trying to take control of Bitcoin and many western BU supporters don't seem to understand it or maybe they don't care to because they only see a Core conspiracy.

Odd, I thought the only thing China was doing was supporting superior software.

People are finding someone to blame if ever Bitcoin failed to meet its goal.  And they see Chinese seems fit as escape goat LOL.  However, there will be lots of blaming like these when things get tough.

I agree with the title of thread but not with what the first post says... The chain isn't stopped so it can always get worse :P

Jokes aside, we are indeed reaching a new low, so it can only go up from here, I guess...

So tell me what is this new low?  I am kinda intrigue wth this and yes I agree that after the new low, the next move is the new high :D.  When caught at the bottom there is always a two direction to go.  It is either to go horizontal or go upward :D


Title: Re: Everything is going to be ok.
Post by: unamis76 on March 10, 2017, 12:25:03 AM
So tell me what is this new low?  I am kinda intrigue wth this and yes I agree that after the new low, the next move is the new high :D.  When caught at the bottom there is always a two direction to go.  It is either to go horizontal or go upward :D

I think it's pretty obvious that the low is the fact that we've been discussing scaling for ages, the discussion's tone has risen up once again for the 2nd or 3rd time and we're almost as close to a solution as we were when we started (unfortunately due to many people's stubbornness, from both sides)


Title: Re: Everything is going to be ok.
Post by: MintCondition on March 10, 2017, 12:34:19 AM
Things are looking up in my opinion.


I thought they were as well until I realized that China was trying to take control of Bitcoin and many western BU supporters don't seem to understand it or maybe they don't care to because they only see a Core conspiracy.

Odd, I thought the only thing China was doing was supporting superior software.

People are finding someone to blame if ever Bitcoin failed to meet its goal.  And they see Chinese seems fit as escape goat LOL.  However, there will be lots of blaming like these when things get tough.

I agree with the title of thread but not with what the first post says... The chain isn't stopped so it can always get worse :P

Jokes aside, we are indeed reaching a new low, so it can only go up from here, I guess...

So tell me what is this new low?  I am kinda intrigue wth this and yes I agree that after the new low, the next move is the new high :D.  When caught at the bottom there is always a two direction to go.  It is either to go horizontal or go upward :D

Hoping that It gets well again ,though the value of  bitcoin now is not that bad at all, though there are some issues and failures in transactions in still satisfied on what I'm getting and earning in bitcoin. Hoping that it will goes upward and more developments in bitcoin.


Title: Re: Everything is going to be ok.
Post by: FiendCoin on March 10, 2017, 12:40:41 AM
BU = Nakamoto's Consensus

As described in Satoshi's white paper.

BU = Few Chinese controlling majority of hash

Can't believe anyone would be ok with that.

If that is what Satoshi wanted, guess he wasn't the genius I though he was. Too bad he's not around anymore.


Title: Re: Everything is going to be ok.
Post by: unamis76 on March 10, 2017, 12:41:16 AM
Hoping that It gets well again ,though the value of  bitcoin now is not that bad at all, though there are some issues and failures in transactions in still satisfied on what I'm getting and earning in bitcoin. Hoping that it will goes upward and more developments in bitcoin.

The exchange value of Bitcoin and whatever all of us combined are earning and/or profiting somehow with Bitcoin is a really, really tiny drop in the ocean compared to the scaling issue. If we don't scale today, we don't "earn" tomorrow (and I mean this in multiple ways, and profiting is what least concerns me).

BU = Few Chinese controlling majority of hash

Can't believe anyone would be ok with that.

If that is what Satoshi wanted, guess he wasn't the genius I though he was. Too bad he's not around anymore.

So according to Bitcointalk and other discussion boards, "Core=Few Chinese controlling majority of hash" and "BU=Few Chinese controlling majority of hash".

Time to have a "break it down" post regarding this like some posts we had regarding Core/SegWit and other ideas/implementations?


Title: Re: Everything is going to be ok.
Post by: Vhern on March 10, 2017, 12:43:09 AM
It's looking better than the being of this week and since the weekend is upon us then it should be all okay.
No matter what outcome tomorrow will bring us all in this community. ;)


Title: Re: Everything is going to be ok.
Post by: cpfreeplz on March 10, 2017, 12:45:16 AM
I don't know, all this infighting lately surely seems weird to outsiders. Also the slow transaction-/high fee-problem must be addressed asap.

Otherwise things are looking great. :P

Yes, I'm sure it is weird to newbs. The "Core" developers do not own Bitcoin. They have been blocking attempts to address scaling while trying to implement a half-baked solution that directly benefits themselves and cripples Bitcoin. What you are seeing is the market rejection of Bitcoin Core.

This. If it only benefits a few then it's never going to take off. That's the whole point of consensus. In the long run we'll be fine, but I'd like a permanent solution to the whole block size situation that's been going on for ... years?


Title: Re: Everything is going to be ok.
Post by: shinratensei_ on March 10, 2017, 12:50:22 AM
Just less than a percent to BU for passing the SegWit.

https://coin.dance/blocks


BU = Few Chinese controlling majority of hash

Can't believe anyone would be ok with that.

If that is what Satoshi wanted, guess he wasn't the genius I though he was. Too bad he's not around anymore.

So according to Bitcointalk and other discussion boards, "Core=Few Chinese controlling majority of hash" and "BU=Few Chinese controlling majority of hash".
So, Bu/SegWit = Few Chinese controlling the majority of hash. Both look same. And whatever who will be the winner the result will be same. It seems like BU will be the winner. :o


Title: Re: Everything is going to be ok.
Post by: bamboylee on March 10, 2017, 12:58:29 AM
That is what I keep telling myself, everything is going to be okay. But, I also know that if scaling is not resolved soon, it will be a downward spiral soon. Miners are the only one enjoying the high fees and long confirmation time not the ordinary users.


Title: Re: Everything is going to be ok.
Post by: unamis76 on March 10, 2017, 12:58:32 AM
So, Bu/SegWit = Few Chinese controlling the majority of hash. Both look same. And whatever who will be the winner the result will be same. It seems like BU will be the winner. :o

Both look the same, but are they the same? And how factual is that? How is that compared to a few years back? That was the end goal of my post, make readers think.

Too early to tell who will win when most seem to want nothing and 2 groups seem to not want what the "other group" wants.


Title: Re: Everything is going to be ok.
Post by: Hexadecibel on March 10, 2017, 12:59:37 AM
Just less than a percent to BU for passing the SegWit.

https://coin.dance/blocks


BU = Few Chinese controlling majority of hash

Can't believe anyone would be ok with that.

If that is what Satoshi wanted, guess he wasn't the genius I though he was. Too bad he's not around anymore.

So according to Bitcointalk and other discussion boards, "Core=Few Chinese controlling majority of hash" and "BU=Few Chinese controlling majority of hash".
So, Bu/SegWit = Few Chinese controlling the majority of hash. Both look same. And whatever who will be the winner the result will be same. It seems like BU will be the winner. :o


Core (SegWit) = a hostile take over of the network via maintaining a 1mb block limit. This was originally just an anti-spam measure. The Core developers are literally being paid by outside actors to maintain this limit and cripple bitcoin.

BU = Scaling Bitcoin On-Chain transactions as originally intended. 2nd layer solutions are still possible.


Title: Re: Everything is going to be ok.
Post by: FiendCoin on March 10, 2017, 01:39:48 AM
Just less than a percent to BU for passing the SegWit.

https://coin.dance/blocks


BU = Few Chinese controlling majority of hash

Can't believe anyone would be ok with that.

If that is what Satoshi wanted, guess he wasn't the genius I though he was. Too bad he's not around anymore.

So according to Bitcointalk and other discussion boards, "Core=Few Chinese controlling majority of hash" and "BU=Few Chinese controlling majority of hash".
So, Bu/SegWit = Few Chinese controlling the majority of hash. Both look same. And whatever who will be the winner the result will be same. It seems like BU will be the winner. :o


Core (SegWit) = a hostile take over of the network via maintaining a 1mb block limit. This was originally just an anti-spam measure. The Core developers are literally being paid by outside actors to maintain this limit and cripple bitcoin.

BU = Scaling Bitcoin On-Chain transactions as originally intended. 2nd layer solutions are still possible.

So are you saying a few elite Chinese do not control the majority of BU hash? Does this not concern you? Does Chinese centralized mining not concern you?


Title: Re: Everything is going to be ok.
Post by: Hexadecibel on March 10, 2017, 01:51:04 AM
Just less than a percent to BU for passing the SegWit.

https://coin.dance/blocks


BU = Few Chinese controlling majority of hash

Can't believe anyone would be ok with that.

If that is what Satoshi wanted, guess he wasn't the genius I though he was. Too bad he's not around anymore.

So according to Bitcointalk and other discussion boards, "Core=Few Chinese controlling majority of hash" and "BU=Few Chinese controlling majority of hash".
So, Bu/SegWit = Few Chinese controlling the majority of hash. Both look same. And whatever who will be the winner the result will be same. It seems like BU will be the winner. :o


Core (SegWit) = a hostile take over of the network via maintaining a 1mb block limit. This was originally just an anti-spam measure. The Core developers are literally being paid by outside actors to maintain this limit and cripple bitcoin.

BU = Scaling Bitcoin On-Chain transactions as originally intended. 2nd layer solutions are still possible.

So are you saying a few elite Chinese do not control the majority of BU hash? Does this not concern you? Does Chinese centralized mining not concern you?

The only thing the Chinese have done is mine bitcoins. They're not trying to make policy. The only people doing that -in an authoritarian way- is Bitcoin Core and Blockstream.







Title: Re: Everything is going to be ok.
Post by: Doms on March 10, 2017, 02:00:22 AM
The plummet during the last two days might have led to some selling their bitcoins, but the price has since rebounded nicely and it seems that it is primed for another push towards a new high. It has always been this way over the last 6 months or so. The price goes on a bull run, consolidates a bit, and then gathers steam to break new resistances.


Title: Re: Everything is going to be ok.
Post by: jonald_fyookball on March 10, 2017, 02:15:46 AM
How's this for a conspiracy theory:

Blockstream raises 71M in VC and for a while claimed their primary offering was "sidechains"
(for which no market really exists.)

Now that the cat is out of the bag, they admit their goal is the lightening network:

Quote
Blockstream is collaborating with industry leaders to create a Bitcoin micropayment system
that supports high volumes of tiny payments using proportional transaction fees and that operates lightning fast.
We are now developing Bitcoin Lightning prototypes and creating consensus on interoperability.

They don't literally say they want to restrict main chain scaling so you are forced
to use this payment system, but they might as well, as actions speak louder than words.






Title: Re: Everything is going to be ok.
Post by: maydna on March 10, 2017, 02:35:49 AM
Things are looking up in my opinion.


this is what i am often to say to myself if i got bad situation and bad condition, i am sure that everything is going to be ok and so far i see this is make a good impact for me like i am not getting panic if i see the price is down or not too greedy if i see the price is increase suddenly. i think no matter if ETF was decline or approve, bitcoin will still run and survive for the bad situation and if this is happen, i think we see this in the last year and it is already happening to us which bitcoin price is down too far and not moving to up or down again.


Title: Re: Everything is going to be ok.
Post by: thisappointed on March 10, 2017, 03:16:27 AM
Things are looking up in my opinion.


I thought they were as well until I realized that China was trying to take control of Bitcoin and many western BU supporters don't seem to understand it or maybe they don't care to because they only see a Core conspiracy.

We don't have to worry about China controlling bitcoin because it is not going to happen. Bitcoin was programmed to be decentralized so that no one could ever control it, and that is one of the advantages of the bitcoin have, so, no matter what China do to control the Bitcoin, it is not going to happen.
What we have to worry about is the Government might kill bitcoin because they can't touch it, they can't put tax on it, they can't steal it, and so on, but let's wish that the SEC would approve the bitcoin ETF, for bitcoins price to continuously goes up and never fall down again.


Title: Re: Everything is going to be ok.
Post by: Harpua on March 10, 2017, 03:18:31 AM
BU = Nakamoto's Consensus

As described in Satoshi's white paper.

I'm not suggesting one thing over another... but it is quite funny/scary how quickly this sort of thinking can lead to an almost religious type of thinking that puts Satoshi on some sort of pedestal.  The wonderful thing about open sourced projects is that it's open for anyone to contribute too.  The critical and very important part of this is if someone in the project disappears from the face of the earth, the project can still continue; and therefore the project itself isn't centralized.

It gets dangerous when you try to read into stuff that's in the white paper and apply it to today's situation(s).  Same goes for Jesus fanatics...


Title: Re: Everything is going to be ok.
Post by: Cherylstar86 on March 10, 2017, 03:29:45 AM
I am confident that eveything is going to be ok and after the drop of price oppotunity opens a new door. Actually price is now climbing again to last higher price higher that we all knew which brought everybody the best expectations, based on the upbringing of price updates.


Title: Re: Everything is going to be ok.
Post by: n0ne on March 10, 2017, 03:37:33 AM
Everything is quite ok, just the network experienced a slow down causing transaction delay even on high transaction fee. This has been quoted as a major issue by most bitcoin users around the world. But that's not and now with the ongoing acceptance and adoption making a 130% growth in a week's time when it touched $1293 as well overcoming the price of gold have given hope to bitcoin experts that the year end is expected to give an assured $3000.


Title: Re: Everything is going to be ok.
Post by: Hexadecibel on March 10, 2017, 03:44:19 AM
BU = Nakamoto's Consensus

As described in Satoshi's white paper.

I'm not suggesting one thing over another... but it is quite funny/scary how quickly this sort of thinking can lead to an almost religious type of thinking that puts Satoshi on some sort of pedestal.  The wonderful thing about open sourced projects is that it's open for anyone to contribute too.  The critical and very important part of this is if someone in the project disappears from the face of the earth, the project can still continue; and therefore the project itself isn't centralized.

It gets dangerous when you try to read into stuff that's in the white paper and apply it to today's situation(s).  Same goes for Jesus fanatics...

Consensus as described in the paper doesn't leave anything to "read into".

Quote
They vote with their CPU power, expressing their acceptance of valid blocks by working on extending them and rejecting invalid blocks by refusing to work on them. Any needed rules and incentives can be enforced with this consensus mechanism.

Miners are beginning to vote. It gets dangerous when people forget that Bitcoin is a Peer to Peer currency.



Title: Re: Everything is going to be ok.
Post by: Xenophoto on March 10, 2017, 08:03:33 AM
BU = Nakamoto's Consensus

As described in Satoshi's white paper.

I'm not suggesting one thing over another... but it is quite funny/scary how quickly this sort of thinking can lead to an almost religious type of thinking that puts Satoshi on some sort of pedestal.  The wonderful thing about open sourced projects is that it's open for anyone to contribute too.  The critical and very important part of this is if someone in the project disappears from the face of the earth, the project can still continue; and therefore the project itself isn't centralized.

It gets dangerous when you try to read into stuff that's in the white paper and apply it to today's situation(s).  Same goes for Jesus fanatics...

That is correct but it's only as much as the words that he wrote in the project. There are some other things that aren't written there like some crazy conspiracy or ideology about the whole thing that isn't confirmed yet or anything. I know this for sure because no one's writing every single idea that comes to his mind. The mindset of the person that actually created the whole thing is much better than the people that are going to study it.

This is why most people that are working on a project always have someone beside them. Just in case they die, they have someone that has almost the same thinking as them and knows as much as them in the project. It's like passing it on to another person and the person don't need that much time to cope up compared to people that are going to read the whole paper and do research first.


Title: Re: Everything is going to be ok.
Post by: dinofelis on March 10, 2017, 08:34:03 AM
Hoping that It gets well again ,though the value of  bitcoin now is not that bad at all, though there are some issues and failures in transactions in still satisfied on what I'm getting and earning in bitcoin. Hoping that it will goes upward and more developments in bitcoin.

The exchange value of Bitcoin and whatever all of us combined are earning and/or profiting somehow with Bitcoin is a really, really tiny drop in the ocean compared to the scaling issue. If we don't scale today, we don't "earn" tomorrow (and I mean this in multiple ways, and profiting is what least concerns me).

BU = Few Chinese controlling majority of hash

Can't believe anyone would be ok with that.

If that is what Satoshi wanted, guess he wasn't the genius I though he was. Too bad he's not around anymore.

So according to Bitcointalk and other discussion boards, "Core=Few Chinese controlling majority of hash" and "BU=Few Chinese controlling majority of hash".

Time to have a "break it down" post regarding this like some posts we had regarding Core/SegWit and other ideas/implementations?

This "dispute" is nothing else but the immutability dynamics at work, that keeps the protocol as it is, and makes it impossible to find a consensus over an important modification of the rules.  In the same way as immutability dynamics doesn't allow to find a consensus over changing the 21 million coins into 42 million or something.  You see bitcoin's dynamics at work, while you think it are "disputes".  The disputes are the essence of bitcoin's distributed immutability.  This is why the "winner" will be the actual rules and nothing will change.  Learn to live with 1MB blocks and no segwit.  Because that's bitcoin, and it is immutable. 


Title: Re: Everything is going to be ok.
Post by: bittraffic on March 10, 2017, 09:18:20 AM
So it is going to be too late for us to buy Dash? i was planing the other day and i should have done it. IF all these are going to continue for the rest of the days until march 13, I have to sell all my coins :) And start digging to mine gold literally.


Title: Re: Everything is going to be ok.
Post by: iram3130 on March 10, 2017, 09:36:05 AM
So it is going to be too late for us to buy Dash? i was planing the other day and i should have done it. IF all these are going to continue for the rest of the days until march 13, I have to sell all my coins :) And start digging to mine gold literally.

Well yeah, it's looking like literally that time to start digging to mine gold but that's not as easy as mining Bitcoin isn't it..  :o
I think everything is going to be OK for all the Bitcoin lovers, try some altcoins and buy some and hold of you can.


Title: Re: Everything is going to be ok.
Post by: crazyivan on March 10, 2017, 09:41:26 AM
I still do not believe ETF will gain approval today. Still the main benefit is awareness, people getting aware of crypto and Bitcoin because of news coverage. That s what we need to help Bitcoin grow.


Title: Re: Everything is going to be ok.
Post by: jacafbiz on March 10, 2017, 11:02:27 AM
I still do not believe ETF will gain approval today. Still the main benefit is awareness, people getting aware of crypto and Bitcoin because of news coverage. That s what we need to help Bitcoin grow.

ETF will not be approved, there is no indication out there to suggest otherwise. The hype is just the handiwork of speculators. I personally don't think Bitcoin need anyone ETF


Title: Re: Everything is going to be ok.
Post by: FiendCoin on March 10, 2017, 11:29:55 AM
Just less than a percent to BU for passing the SegWit.

https://coin.dance/blocks


BU = Few Chinese controlling majority of hash

Can't believe anyone would be ok with that.

If that is what Satoshi wanted, guess he wasn't the genius I though he was. Too bad he's not around anymore.

So according to Bitcointalk and other discussion boards, "Core=Few Chinese controlling majority of hash" and "BU=Few Chinese controlling majority of hash".
So, Bu/SegWit = Few Chinese controlling the majority of hash. Both look same. And whatever who will be the winner the result will be same. It seems like BU will be the winner. :o


Core (SegWit) = a hostile take over of the network via maintaining a 1mb block limit. This was originally just an anti-spam measure. The Core developers are literally being paid by outside actors to maintain this limit and cripple bitcoin.

BU = Scaling Bitcoin On-Chain transactions as originally intended. 2nd layer solutions are still possible.

So are you saying a few elite Chinese do not control the majority of BU hash? Does this not concern you? Does Chinese centralized mining not concern you?

The only thing the Chinese have done is mine bitcoins. They're not trying to make policy. The only people doing that -in an authoritarian way- is Bitcoin Core and Blockstream.







You still didn't answer my questions.


Title: Re: Everything is going to be ok.
Post by: YuginKadoya on March 10, 2017, 11:42:22 AM
Things are looking up in my opinion.


It is good I didn't let go of my save BTC and seeing the value of bitcoin right now I am certainly most happy of the way it went and I am glad that I am one of the people who witness the struggles it take to reach this certain spot, in the entire commodities that people would want to invest with bitcoin is now the leading or the top tier we users are most certainly proud of so rejoice!


Title: Re: Everything is going to be ok.
Post by: machinek20 on March 10, 2017, 11:46:38 AM
Hopefully you are correct, but I believe everything will be okay, even if the ETF is not approved there still big hope for bitcoin to grow, now we just need to fix the high expenses and the slow transaction, but we still have more and more user everyday and the transaction rate is still good, so I believe everything will be okay


Title: Re: Everything is going to be ok.
Post by: ubercool on March 10, 2017, 11:52:08 AM
Hopefully you are correct, but I believe everything will be okay, even if the ETF is not approved there still big hope for bitcoin to grow, now we just need to fix the high expenses and the slow transaction, but we still have more and more user everyday and the transaction rate is still good, so I believe everything will be okay
As long as the popularity of Bitcoin is increasing and more people starting to use Bitcoins, Everything is definitely going to be ok. There are some people who are thwarted about the delay in the transaction and high transaction fees, the bullish nature of the market is making things up.


Title: Re: Everything is going to be ok.
Post by: paul gatt on March 10, 2017, 01:22:01 PM
Things are looking up in my opinion.


Yes, things are going in positive, stable and proper way, that's what we all need, we are bitcoin lovers, and we always want it to grow. Blocking the way forward will be very difficult and we can not predict it, but I hope the next thing that is good for bitcoin and for all of us.


Title: Re: Everything is going to be ok.
Post by: ice098 on March 10, 2017, 04:48:16 PM
Things are looking up in my opinion.


just be patient my buddy, bitcoin is a very good to be invested today. bitcoin tends to be grow higher and higher everyday. Just be patient in all your transaction and put some trust on it. Just try it helps.


Title: Re: Everything is going to be ok.
Post by: bravehearth0319 on March 14, 2017, 05:06:53 AM
Things are definitely looking up. Sadly I sold most of my bitcoin last month to pay bills.  So now I'll just
start again doing web development, SEO, article writing, etc... for bitcoin.

Oh that's really sad man, but anyway its too late you can still move forward, as far as I know according to my source 2 or 3 weeks from now bitcoin will goes up to 1400$, let's take the chance to save more of bitcoin..


Title: Re: Everything is going to be ok.
Post by: AjithBtc on March 14, 2017, 05:16:47 AM
Things are definitely looking up. Sadly I sold most of my bitcoin last month to pay bills.  So now I'll just
start again doing web development, SEO, article writing, etc... for bitcoin.

Oh that's really sad man, but anyway its too late you can still move forward, as far as I know according to my source 2 or 3 weeks from now bitcoin will goes up to 1400$, let's take the chance to save more of bitcoin..
Early adopters were the luckiest of all, and now too we are not much late to be successful through bitcoin. As the price increase is good people feel bad when they have sold it for lesser price. Likewise the person who knows about bitcoin and yet haven't started will realize the goodness in the late future when it is known to entire world.


Title: Re: Everything is going to be ok.
Post by: pearlmen on March 14, 2017, 05:31:09 AM
Things are looking up in my opinion.


This is some thing one needs to constantly be reminding himself or herself even in our daily life endeavors that irrespective of what I'm going through, everything will be alright and also in the case of bitcoin, whether ETF or not, the future is still as bright as ever and no matter what SEC thinks at the moment, we are one step closer to the goal.


Title: Re: Everything is going to be ok.
Post by: Inkdatar on March 14, 2017, 09:01:57 AM
Everything will be going to be okay even transactions when sending too long to confirm it will definitely resolved. Even you already sold your btc, everything will be okay because I believe bitcoin will still rising its price and we can earn profit. So save more bitcoin while you can.


Title: Re: Everything is going to be ok.
Post by: xuan87 on March 14, 2017, 09:42:49 AM
Things still look terrific there are no big panic sell eventhough there are rejection from etf, and the price still stable and slowly keep on rising, and the alt coin also got a good rising so everything is more than okay according to me


Title: Re: Everything is going to be ok.
Post by: equator on March 14, 2017, 09:52:51 AM
Things are looking up in my opinion.


This is some thing one needs to constantly be reminding himself or herself even in our daily life endeavors that irrespective of what I'm going through, everything will be alright and also in the case of bitcoin, whether ETF or not, the future is still as bright as ever and no matter what SEC thinks at the moment, we are one step closer to the goal.

What you are saying is true, now the bitcoin followers are having more faith and are now not afraid of the dump in price as they are taking the dump as the buying opportunity so who ever wanted to fud now have to be carefull as he will itself get stuck by selling it in low and not able to buy back.


Title: Re: Everything is going to be ok.
Post by: SHAWN-MIDWAYS on March 14, 2017, 09:55:29 AM
A positive attitude is a step in the right direction and its good to see bitcoin is no longer a game of pump and dump
sooner or later we shall be rewarded for holding or simply using btc.


Title: Re: Everything is going to be ok.
Post by: Hexadecibel on March 19, 2017, 08:47:24 PM
More and more miners catching on.

https://coin.dance/blocks/image/historical.png

No single development team has the final say in the direction the protocol takes. Consensus is determined by the miners and where they vote with their hash power. The writing is on the wall.

Core's lies and censorship will not save them. A Proof of Work change will not save them.

Bitcoin is stronger than even its poisonous developers who tried to hijack it...  

Goodbye Core, and good riddance. Hello Bitcoin Unlimited.



Title: Re: Everything is going to be ok.
Post by: megynacuna on March 19, 2017, 10:19:21 PM
I'm positive about the future, it's looking really great and I hope the doomsayers take note. We are on track to globalization of Bitcoin.


Title: Re: Everything is going to be ok.
Post by: Hydrogen on March 20, 2017, 02:10:07 AM
I wonder if bitcoin holders are diversifying their "portfolio" & preparing for worst case scenarios.

Would that be a prudent strategy with fork concerns, or would it be moreso paranoia?

What types of things would the typical bitcoin holder use to diversify?

 :)


Title: Re: Everything is going to be ok.
Post by: jonald_fyookball on March 20, 2017, 02:14:43 AM
I wonder if bitcoin holders are diversifying their "portfolio" & preparing for worst case scenarios.

Would that be a prudent strategy with fork concerns, or would it be moreso paranoia?

What types of things would the typical bitcoin holder use to diversify?

 :)

its a very interesting time...some are no doubt diversifying while others are trying to buy cheap
before the big event.


Title: Re: Everything is going to be ok.
Post by: szpalata on March 20, 2017, 09:38:03 PM
Things still look terrific there are no big panic sell eventhough there are rejection from etf, and the price still stable and slowly keep on rising, and the alt coin also got a good rising so everything is more than okay according to me

I think it's evident for all to see that Bitcoin has withstood the test of time and hence there's no need to panic sell your coins when you suspect a little dump. Bitcoin has come to stay so forget about the negative media propaganda and let's all support its growth.


Title: Re: Everything is going to be ok.
Post by: Hexadecibel on March 21, 2017, 06:33:43 PM
http://nodecounter.com/from_slush_to_bitcoin_com_pool.php

Quote
For a year now (since March of 2016), NodeCounter has been mining at Slush Pool in support of Bitcoin Classic and more recently, Bitcoin Unlimited.

However, due to Slush Pool operator's recent statements and slander against Bitcoin Unlimited supporters, we have switched mining pools and are now pointing our hashrate at pool.bitcoin.com.

We believe in the free market choice, and not the choice dictated by pool operators (or Core devs), no matter how much they feel they know best. Bitcoin was designed to empower the individual to make his own decisions.

As a further note, slush seems to fail to recognize that the Bitcoin Unlimited community does support layer 2 scaling with networks such as Lightning Network and others. These are achievable with much simpler malleability fixes than Segwit (see Flexible Transactions). Rather than attempting to change slush's mind, we are simply moving our hashrate elsewhere.

Bitcoin has become far too political. Money speaks louder than words, and that is precisely how Bitcoin was designed to operate and incentivize.


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In the history of our Bitcoin Mining Fund's utilization of slush pool, we have mined over 736 BTC in rewards (also verifiable at the mining reward address 1PTY9f8hbaFBd3EsXfAuixZ2Y5ZxWP4uZa.

It is worth mentioning that these 736 BTC were mined from an original 30-50 BTC. The efficiency of this mining pool is very high, and it has proven that it can re-invest for 6+ months off a single donation.

Help us bring Bitcoin Unlimited through to the ultimate victory of increased blocksize, lowered fees, faster confirmation times, returned use-cases, higher transaction throughput, and support of a dev team that doesn't utilize censored discussion areas. This is the same Bitcoin we have all known and loved for years. Then we can begin to build the layer 2 solutions that are also needed.
- See more at: http://nodecounter.com/from_slush_to_bitcoin_com_pool.php#sthash.QyTKZ1jI.dpuf


Title: Re: Everything is going to be ok.
Post by: lionheart78 on March 21, 2017, 06:40:21 PM
Things are looking up in my opinion.


I thought they were as well until I realized that China was trying to take control of Bitcoin and many western BU supporters don't seem to understand it or maybe they don't care to because they only see a Core conspiracy.

Lol what's with this conspiracy theory?  Care to elaborate why you think China is trying to take control of Bitcoin. I maybe insensitive but I really can't get the picture out of what you are trying to say. 

Anyway I also think everything will go well soon.

Things still look terrific there are no big panic sell eventhough there are rejection from etf, and the price still stable and slowly keep on rising, and the alt coin also got a good rising so everything is more than okay according to me

I think it's evident for all to see that Bitcoin has withstood the test of time and hence there's no need to panic sell your coins when you suspect a little dump. Bitcoin has come to stay so forget about the negative media propaganda and let's all support its growth.

It seems supporters really know how important Bitcoin is and the possible benefit they can get supporting it.  Only weak hands dump, the one who knows the true potential of Bitcoin holds.


Title: Re: Everything is going to be ok.
Post by: audaciousbeing on March 21, 2017, 06:46:21 PM
Things are looking up in my opinion.


Whether online or offline in my daily activities, I believe everything is going to be fine afterall, there is nothing wrong in being hopeful about the future. Back to bitcoin, after we had faced a backdrop in the last few days, hope is what is needed since by wish is not the reason why price fluctuates whether high or low but things are getting better and we are gradually on the track because thing will continue to look up that the least believe we just need to possess.


Title: Re: Everything is going to be ok.
Post by: bravehearth0319 on March 23, 2017, 08:25:57 AM
Things are looking up in my opinion.

yeah, everything will be fine even bitcoin reduced right now, and some are criticizing me about dropping the price of bitcoin. And for me who cares it doesn't matter at all if bitcoin down because I believed  bitcoin  in a long run will increase again and again.


Title: Re: Everything is going to be ok.
Post by: KennyR on March 23, 2017, 08:46:24 AM
Things are looking up in my opinion.

yeah, everything will be fine even bitcoin reduced right now, and some are criticizing me about dropping the price of bitcoin. And for me who cares it doesn't matter at all if bitcoin down because I believed  bitcoin  in a long run will increase again and again.
One who believe in it will never be left with a disappointment. From the day I got into bitcoin several such issues arises which leads to price drop. This will be soon overcome by the bitcoin same is gonna happen now too. Even now on price fall few could have sold on panic and will realize the mistake of not trusting it when the stability is achieved.


Title: Re: Everything is going to be ok.
Post by: Betwrong on March 23, 2017, 09:12:17 AM
I think those who are panic selling now all their coins will regret it in the future. Lke it was shown in this thread many times, Bitcoin have had some issues in the past but was overcoming them successfully every time. Although I think $1,000+ is not so bad, I'm sure the price will rise due to massive adoption in the future.


Title: Re: Everything is going to be ok.
Post by: teilwalL05 on March 23, 2017, 09:31:26 AM
It is really looking up, but at the moment it is really stopping to the $1000 dollar mark of a price and I think we can accurately say that it will still continue to get back to a flat 1k despite the fact that at some time it go up straight to $1300 dollar but right now it is going down now and we never know where it will stop but I wish it would stay in a $1000 dollar cap.


Title: Re: Everything is going to be ok.
Post by: FasTroy on March 23, 2017, 11:50:28 AM
Things are looking up in my opinion.

I really agree with you. Usually, things are looking up when we talk about bitcoin.
Even the last crash of bitcoin price, The bitcoin is immortal. Many differents speculators Try to kill bitcoin, but they can't when we see the high number of people around the whole world that enrolling in bitcoin community. The power of bitcoin is comming from the use of it.


Title: Re: Everything is going to be ok.
Post by: Xester on March 23, 2017, 11:57:33 AM
Things are looking up in my opinion.

yeah, everything will be fine even bitcoin reduced right now, and some are criticizing me about dropping the price of bitcoin. And for me who cares it doesn't matter at all if bitcoin down because I believed  bitcoin  in a long run will increase again and again.

That is the spirit that we must put up as a loyal supporter of bitcoin. Even though there is a possible dump coming as Roger Ver has already told the bitcoin community that he is going to dump Forty Thousand Bitcoins before the hardfork will be launched and if the possible trade with the core developers will not succeed.


Title: Re: Everything is going to be ok.
Post by: paul gatt on March 23, 2017, 01:32:53 PM
An option must be given, segwit wins or uncoordinated bitcoin becomes competitive currency, certain answers must be given, and time will tell it all. Waiting is the only thing we can do at the present time. According to various opinions, this forum is typical, I find that most people do not accept BTU, a few accept segwit, the rest are majority, they are the ones who like bitcoin like old , And I think it is a wise choice. This struggle is coming to an end.


Title: Re: Everything is going to be ok.
Post by: abdulaziz07 on March 23, 2017, 01:33:53 PM
does segwit stands a chance to win ?


Title: Re: Everything is going to be ok.
Post by: mace15 on March 23, 2017, 02:10:51 PM
Definitely everything will be okay, bitcoin price dumped but definitely it will up. This digital currency has become in massive adoption, growing daily so anyone users are really observing its moving in the market. It will be okay and back to its price again.


Title: Re: Everything is going to be ok.
Post by: Sundark on March 23, 2017, 02:19:18 PM
does segwit stands a chance to win ?
SegWit was dead on arrival with inflated consensus conditions it was clear that this option will never be accepted.
At this point it is clear that there is no way that we will have 95% consensus on anything related to Bitcoin upgrade.
SegWit is now backed by 28% of miners, Bitcoin Unlimited by 38.3% and then we have 8 MB Blocks backed by 5.7%


Title: Re: Everything is going to be ok.
Post by: posternat on March 24, 2017, 03:19:32 AM
Things are looking up in my opinion.

yeah, everything will be fine even bitcoin reduced right now, and some are criticizing me about dropping the price of bitcoin. And for me who cares it doesn't matter at all if bitcoin down because I believed  bitcoin  in a long run will increase again and again.

Yeah! Just think possive. It takes time to see how much bitcoin increases because it fluctuates everytime there is a transaction. But no worries because everything will be okay and fine.


Title: Re: Everything is going to be ok.
Post by: Zadicar on March 24, 2017, 03:28:29 AM
Things are looking up in my opinion.

yeah, everything will be fine even bitcoin reduced right now, and some are criticizing me about dropping the price of bitcoin. And for me who cares it doesn't matter at all if bitcoin down because I believed  bitcoin  in a long run will increase again and again.

Yeah! Just think possive. It takes time to see how much bitcoin increases because it fluctuates everytime there is a transaction. But no worries because everything will be okay and fine.
We are most thinking of the same thing which this situation would okay on bitcoins price but there are people who easily panic and spreading some useless fuds among the community and some do believe it easily which causes for them to sell on cheaper price but well its their own decision if they fall on those panic selling.Better hold off no matter what on the price.


Title: Re: Everything is going to be ok.
Post by: asuryan180 on March 24, 2017, 04:59:57 AM
BTC will prosper,that's for sure


Title: Re: Everything is going to be ok.
Post by: poetra2501 on March 24, 2017, 05:01:39 AM
Definitely everything will be okay, bitcoin price dumped but definitely it will up. This digital currency has become in massive adoption, growing daily so anyone users are really observing its moving in the market. It will be okay and back to its price again.
But if there have a negative news about Bitcoin surely the price will be down again.
We know that the price of Bitcoin is depends on the positive or negative news.


Title: Re: Everything is going to be ok.
Post by: btcdiggingmaster on March 24, 2017, 05:09:57 AM
Everything is going fine, but the only problem is, sometimes it is taking too long for the transaction, much big mining firms keep on mining the bitcoin still why the transaction is delayed, this seems to be a bit worrying.


Title: Re: Everything is going to be ok.
Post by: izanagi narukami on March 24, 2017, 05:55:39 AM
BTC will prosper,that's for sure

Especially when bitcoin reach another halving , that my reason I kept most of my bitcoin until 2019-2020 since I trust bitcoin potential and it will getting more known so bitcoin value will increase 5x times from current value


Title: Re: Everything is going to be ok.
Post by: Kemarit on March 24, 2017, 08:25:56 AM
The price is down again and hovering around $1000 but I think we are still ok. But the BU schism has taken too much toll on the bitcoin market price. A lot of uncertainty is surrounding the bitcoin ecosystem. FUD spreading, people panic then sell their bitcoin. The negative effect of the ETF is long gone, we didn't feel it, but the whole BU vs Core has really affected us in a negative way specially if there is a hardfork looming. So it you still believe in bitcoin, then hold on it for a bit and let us see what the future will bring on whether to profit. But I still believe that the future is bright for bitcoin and the price will rise at the end of the year.


Title: Re: Everything is going to be ok.
Post by: Kristoffff on March 24, 2017, 08:39:12 AM
Prices will go up and down like in the past and it will just continue like that and steadily rise over the years. I've got time.


Title: Re: Everything is going to be ok.
Post by: swogerino on March 24, 2017, 08:56:43 AM
Things are looking ok for old users. For new ones they are looking difficult as few persons will buy bitcoins at a price of over 1000 dollars. We must do more to promote bitcoin , about its usage and that in the longer term even new entries will be profiting from bitcoin.


Title: Re: Everything is going to be ok.
Post by: deisik on March 24, 2017, 11:51:03 AM
Things are looking up in my opinion.

yeah, everything will be fine even bitcoin reduced right now, and some are criticizing me about dropping the price of bitcoin. And for me who cares it doesn't matter at all if bitcoin down because I believed  bitcoin  in a long run will increase again and again.

That is the spirit that we must put up as a loyal supporter of bitcoin. Even though there is a possible dump coming as Roger Ver has already told the bitcoin community that he is going to dump Forty Thousand Bitcoins before the hardfork will be launched and if the possible trade with the core developers will not succeed

He must have already been dumping them all this time

If the Winklevoss twins are not involved in recent massive dumps of Bitcoin. then it might be Roger Ver himself slowly liquidating his stash. It doesn't make much sense to announce such course of action in advance unless he is going to deliberately hurt Bitcoin. But since you claim that he did say something to that tune, this seems to be the case where words speak louder than actions, and he has just shown his attitude toward ordinary Bitcoin users. It is one thing when he silently sells his coins and quite another when he declares his intentions in public (provided he did really say that, of course)


Title: Re: Everything is going to be ok.
Post by: sportis on March 24, 2017, 03:40:37 PM
I think those who are panic selling now all their coins will regret it in the future. Lke it was shown in this thread many times, Bitcoin have had some issues in the past but was overcoming them successfully every time. Although I think $1,000+ is not so bad, I'm sure the price will rise due to massive adoption in the future.

Currently is something different and there is not the same like in the past. The last two weeks all they speak about a hard fork and the split of the blockchain. If this will happen would be the first time and is logical all of the users to feel nervous. Therefore, if some of them have already bought in high price they want to protect their funds and want to sell so as to decrease their loss.


Title: Re: Everything is going to be ok.
Post by: N@p$t3r on March 24, 2017, 03:50:21 PM
I definitely agree mi amigo! weak hands would have a lot of loss. I think this moment is the best time to buy, not sell... Everything is going to be OK!