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Title: 🌟🚀[ANN] ZrCoin 📈 The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option 🚀🌟
Post by: ZrCoin on March 18, 2017, 02:25:18 PM
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Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: ZrCoin on March 18, 2017, 02:26:28 PM
Today we are happy to launch the world’s first blockchain token backed by an industrial commodity.

Here you can ask questions about project.


Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: bolivarcoin on March 18, 2017, 02:36:49 PM
I like the name, i will invest and fallow this coin till mature into a great project


Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: ZrCoin on March 18, 2017, 02:45:47 PM
I like the name, i will invest and fallow this coin till mature into a great project

Yep, we ll launch ICO soon.
 
It's innovative project based on real production. Someting extremly new.

Don't forget to register on website and you ll get updates to email
https://zrcoin.io/register

We ll have lots of news very soon!


Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: jeha2015 on March 18, 2017, 02:49:52 PM
waiting for twitter bounty sir


Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: Vlegale on March 18, 2017, 02:51:12 PM
This is really cool
Real business, real assets, commodity, visual control
Blockchain should be integrated in real business production.
Bitcoin is storming , Zrcoin is good option for risk deversification.



Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: jeha2015 on March 18, 2017, 02:52:52 PM
waiting for twitter bounty sir


Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: silversurferd on March 18, 2017, 02:54:30 PM
looking into this maybe good or maybe bad


Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: nolispui on March 18, 2017, 02:57:18 PM
Is there going to be a translation bounty? I would like to reserve the italian language  :)


Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: ZrCoin on March 18, 2017, 02:57:22 PM
waiting for twitter bounty sir

Yep, we ll have Bounty campaign.

For now you can follow our twitter ;)
https://twitter.com/ZrCoin


Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: PikachuYou on March 18, 2017, 02:59:30 PM
sounds similar to the recyclix scam.....

https://recyclix.com/ (https://recyclix.com/)


Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: jimmyk on March 18, 2017, 02:59:41 PM
Wasn't URO the first one to do this?  So, you're not really the first.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=600639.0


Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: Motivator on March 18, 2017, 02:59:46 PM
Specifications for this coin? Total amount of coins, etc?


Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: ZrCoin on March 18, 2017, 02:59:53 PM
This is really cool
Real business, real assets, commodity, visual control
Blockchain should be integrated in real business production.
Bitcoin is storming , Zrcoin is good option for risk deversification.



Thank you for your support.

Yes, I totally agree.

It's real opportunity to become an investor and new step in economics.

Blockchain technology ll make it clear, available and easy for usual people.


Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: MirkoIta on March 18, 2017, 02:59:58 PM
waiting for twitter bounty sir

Don't worry OP will write about twitter bounty soon and if you leave you address here you will receive a nice bag of Synthetic Zirconium at your door as a welcome bounty.  ;D


Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: ZHiee on March 18, 2017, 03:00:22 PM
Waiting for fb bounty sir. ty


Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: ZrCoin on March 18, 2017, 03:02:03 PM
Wasn't URO the first one to do this?  So, you're not really the first.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=600639.0

sounds similar to the recyclix scam.....

https://recyclix.com/ (https://recyclix.com/)

Thanks for these links.

We ll have a look.

And we are opened for all your questions.


Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: ZrCoin on March 18, 2017, 03:04:21 PM
looking into this maybe good or maybe bad

Good!

We are opened to all your questions.
Really interested in.

Guys, also join our Telegram.
There you ll get the most operative answers to your questions.
https://t.me/joinchat/AAAAAAyr_p_eKwLkzlHvfg

But surely here also.


Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: ZrCoin on March 18, 2017, 03:06:10 PM
Is there going to be a translation bounty? I would like to reserve the italian language  :)

Ok.

Yes, we ll have something for translators.
Not for all languages, but italian in the list.


Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: ZrCoin on March 18, 2017, 03:14:09 PM
Specifications for this coin? Total amount of coins, etc?

Amount of tokens depends on result of ICO.

Each participant buys token with price 1,4$. After ICO they become tradable and you can sell it with price 2,8$ at the final stage.
So it's option working as derevative.

1,4 and 2,8 comes from current price for 1 kg of Zirconium Dioxide (ZrO2).

For such plant we need 3,5 millions $.

Details in White Paper
https://zrcoin.io/files/Whitepaper_ENG.pdf

And ask your questions.


Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: Vadim Sychev on March 18, 2017, 04:04:36 PM
I think zrco1n it is a good coin to hedge the risks associated with bitcoin


Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: Next_Robby on March 18, 2017, 04:11:55 PM
I think Zr_[Suspicious link removed]d coin to hedge the risks associated with bitcoin

You are as new user unfortunately can not post links probably...

But seems I've caught your idea.
ZrCoin is not connected with bitcoin or what ever directly.
Am I right?

It's more application of blockchain as technology than connection with any crypto.
And surely it does not create any risks connected with cryptocurrencies as usual.

Seems attractive investment.


Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: batagor225 on March 18, 2017, 04:21:14 PM
specification ?


Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: ZrCoin on March 18, 2017, 04:25:20 PM
specification ?

Just some posts above
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1832477.msg18237718#msg18237718

Details in White Paper
https://zrcoin.io/files/Whitepaper_ENG.pdf

Don't hesitate to ask more and more detailed.


Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: nolispui on March 18, 2017, 04:34:46 PM
Is there going to be a translation bounty? I would like to reserve the italian language  :)

Ok.

Yes, we ll have something for translators.
Not for all languages, but italian in the list.

cool, thank you for the quick reply. I will be waiting for more info :)


Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: republicrypto on March 18, 2017, 06:26:18 PM
Is there going to be a translation bounty? I would like to reserve the italian language  :)

Ok.

Yes, we ll have something for translators.
Not for all languages, but italian in the list.

if indonesian in the list i would like to reserve indonesian translator dev  ;)


Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: bogdanbm on March 18, 2017, 08:11:57 PM
I want to do the Romanian translation, for the bounty


Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: CjMapope on March 18, 2017, 08:27:28 PM
this is so much bullshit it hurts haha

Anyone dumb enough to believe this OP deserves to lose thier BTC, nough' said

"will buy back 400,000$ a MONTH in coins"  YA, right  ::) but thats not till AFTER idiots buy them,  8)

Looking forward to watching this implode!

o, i see on the site you have sasha on board. well that GUARANTEES im not touching this, all that guy does is steal btc from this community over and over with another project, another project


Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: rendravolt on March 18, 2017, 08:31:09 PM
Nice concept! but I'm need more updates here ;)


Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: matejbilahora on March 18, 2017, 08:33:26 PM
Well this is looking interesting. I would invest some coins..


Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: bogdanbm on March 18, 2017, 08:54:56 PM
this is so much bullshit it hurts haha

Anyone dumb enough to believe this OP deserves to lose thier BTC, nough' said

"will buy back 400,000$ a MONTH in coins"  YA, right  ::) but thats not till AFTER idiots buy them,  8)

Looking forward to watching this implode!

o, i see on the site you have sasha on board. well that GUARANTEES im not touching this, all that guy does is steal btc from this community over and over with another project, another project

I like when kids like you call everything a scam :)) haha


Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: DonApp on March 18, 2017, 09:08:39 PM
Dear ZrCoin

I am interested in your development, but I have some questions. I hope you can answer them?

1) How many coins will be for sale? Is there a fixed supply or will the amount of coins be determined by the amount of investments?
2) If there is a fixed supply, what will be done with the unsold coins?
3) What is the minimum funding goal for your ICO?

4) In your whitepaper you desribe a monthly production of 400 tons of zirconium concentrate. How did you come to this number?
5) Are there enough companies to purchase all of the zirconium concentrate you produce?
6) To produce such an amount, you will also need to have sufficient raw materials. Since I expect that the amount of Zirconium in your raw material will be low, the raw material flow will be large. Is infrastructure and supply secured?
7) You describe 2 different installations. Are both installations required to succeed this project?
8) will you only produce zirconium concentrate or will you possibly also produce other rare earth metals?
9) You have a site identified to construct your installations. Are all permits arranged?
10) Construction time seems very short. Typically some parts will have order times of few monts to half a year. How do you ensure that construction will be finished in time?

The project is close to my background, so thanks in advance for your answers :)


Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: bogdanbm on March 18, 2017, 09:17:14 PM
Good questions above ^^ looking forward for the asnwers


Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: bezbezbez on March 18, 2017, 09:24:53 PM
looking into this maybe good or maybe bad

Good!

We are opened to all your questions.
Really interested in.

Guys, also join our Telegram.
There you ll get the most operative answers to your questions.
https://t.me/joinchat/AAAAAAyr_p_eKwLkzlHvfg

But surely here also.

telegram link please


Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: ZrCoin on March 18, 2017, 09:34:57 PM
looking into this maybe good or maybe bad

Good!

We are opened to all your questions.
Really interested in.

Guys, also join our Telegram.
There you ll get the most operative answers to your questions.
https://t.me/joinchat/AAAAAAyr_p_eKwLkzlHvfg

But surely here also.

telegram link please

It's already in your quote. It's invite link to Telegram
https://t.me/joinchat/AAAAAAyr_p_eKwLkzlHvfg


Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: GreenMatrix on March 18, 2017, 09:46:16 PM
looking into this maybe good or maybe bad

Good!

We are opened to all your questions.
Really interested in.

Guys, also join our Telegram.
There you ll get the most operative answers to your questions.
https://t.me/joinchat/AAAAAAyr_p_eKwLkzlHvfg

But surely here also.

telegram link please

It's already in your quote. It's invite link to Telegram
https://t.me/joinchat/AAAAAAyr_p_eKwLkzlHvfg
and slack?


Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: ZrCoin on March 18, 2017, 10:16:17 PM
Dear ZrCoin

I am interested in your development, but I have some questions. I hope you can answer them?

1) How many coins will be for sale? Is there a fixed supply or will the amount of coins be determined by the amount of investments?
2) If there is a fixed supply, what will be done with the unsold coins?
3) What is the minimum funding goal for your ICO?

4) In your whitepaper you desribe a monthly production of 400 tons of zirconium concentrate. How did you come to this number?
5) Are there enough companies to purchase all of the zirconium concentrate you produce?
6) To produce such an amount, you will also need to have sufficient raw materials. Since I expect that the amount of Zirconium in your raw material will be low, the raw material flow will be large. Is infrastructure and supply secured?
7) You describe 2 different installations. Are both installations required to succeed this project?
8) will you only produce zirconium concentrate or will you possibly also produce other rare earth metals?
9) You have a site identified to construct your installations. Are all permits arranged?
10) Construction time seems very short. Typically some parts will have order times of few monts to half a year. How do you ensure that construction will be finished in time?

The project is close to my background, so thanks in advance for your answers :)

Thank you for lots of questions!
Well, lets start.

1. Amount of coins will be determined by the amount of investments. 1.4$ for 1 token.
2. As you can get from punkt 1, we ll not have unsold tokens.
3. Minimum is 3,5 millions $ in sum of all investments.
7 millions will be also good, it ll allow to build the second production line and all process ll be much faster.

4. 400 tons of zirconium concentrate per month - it's estimated power of the plant.
If we count our planned supply and work of equipment and people and this everything ll happen in time, so we can estimate that we ll have 400 tons of concetrate.
5. Yes, there are a lot. Zirconium concetrate is a highly demand product for some kind of factories which connected with high temperature production. We ll publish surely some research about it to proof this information. Surely to trust to this project this information should be clear and evident. But for now you can google and read some scientific research about this market.
6. This is especially good question. But surely the answer is yes. There are enough raw material around and we have enough experience in such kind of logistic.
7. Yes, it's required to have both of them. It's not real installions, I would say it's 2 steps of production.
8. For now our unique methodic is available and fit only to Zirconium concetrate.
9. Yes, something still is in process, but the main things are ready. And we'll publish all documents about it step by step, so I would advise to subscribe to our news here and get news from us
https://zrcoin.io/register
10. These types of constructions can be built rather fast. It's not real monumental building, it's some special production building, so it's possible to build in this short period.

I hope, I have answered to your questions.
Please don't hesitate to ask more.

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Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: ZrCoin on March 18, 2017, 10:23:12 PM
Nice concept! but I'm need more updates here ;)

Yes, we ll have updates and more details about everything.

Please register here and you ll get all news
https://zrcoin.io/register


Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: seven.71 on March 18, 2017, 10:51:59 PM
Why are so many Russian make ICO project
if you do not learn from his many ICO made by the Russian people will fail
might just think to obtain funds from investors after that they disappear

you use the name of Sasha that investors are interested, you are wrong I say waves project failed because the funds collected are quite large but the price at the time of release Waves plummeted 2X priced ICO

This project together with the project ProProfil which has the concept in the field of construction, until today only raise funds 0,02btc  ;D ;D
This link project similar to the project ZrCoin

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1808911.0



Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: GreenMatrix on March 18, 2017, 11:00:24 PM
Why are so many Russians make ICO project
if you do not learn from his many ICO made by the Russian people will fail
might just think to obtain funds from investors after that they disappear

you use the name of Sasha that investors are interested, you are wrong I say waves project failed because the funds collected are quite large but the price at the time of release Waves plummeted 2X priced ICO

This project together with the project ProProfil which has the concept in the field of construction, until today only raise funds 0,02btc  ;D ;D
This link project similar to the project ZrCoin

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1808911.0


Waves platform failed?.Imo you must take a deeper look : https://github.com/WAVESPLATFORM/
a low ICO price does not mean a fail.Time will tell.


Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: Vlegale on March 18, 2017, 11:11:07 PM
Why are so many Russians make ICO project
if you do not learn from his many ICO made by the Russian people will fail
might just think to obtain funds from investors after that they disappear

you use the name of Sasha that investors are interested, you are wrong I say waves project failed because the funds collected are quite large but the price at the time of release Waves plummeted 2X priced ICO

This project together with the project ProProfil which has the concept in the field of construction, until today only raise funds 0,02btc  ;D ;D
This link project similar to the project ZrCoin

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1808911.0


Eutherium is Russian ICO, just to let you know :)
And it's very sucsefull
Waves would be good as well ( how much time Eutherium was needed to go up ??), waves is only 8 months old, and development is going on. The price is the matter of time.
Google is invited by Russians as well:)


Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: seven.71 on March 18, 2017, 11:18:36 PM
Why are so many Russians make ICO project
if you do not learn from his many ICO made by the Russian people will fail
might just think to obtain funds from investors after that they disappear

you use the name of Sasha that investors are interested, you are wrong I say waves project failed because the funds collected are quite large but the price at the time of release Waves plummeted 2X priced ICO

This project together with the project ProProfil which has the concept in the field of construction, until today only raise funds 0,02btc  ;D ;D
This link project similar to the project ZrCoin

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1808911.0


Eutherium is Russian ICO, just to let you know :)
And it's very sucsefull
Waves would be good as well ( how much time Eutherium was needed to go up ??), waves is only 8 months old, and development is going on. The price is the matter of time.
Google is invited by Russians as well:)

Indeed Vitalik are From Russia
but he is learning and growing in America is not in Russia


Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: Vlegale on March 18, 2017, 11:49:35 PM
From my point of view, the main things of this Ico are:
- price will not go below Ico price, because it's stupid to sell in the market cheap if you can get back 100% of investments back
- real business = real people, real register company, real assets.
- understandable business model. So I understand where profits are comming from. With other Ico, is not clear at all.
- I prefer to have good fixed profit , rather then waiting "to the moon"





Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: CjMapope on March 19, 2017, 02:24:00 AM
Why are so many Russians make ICO project
if you do not learn from his many ICO made by the Russian people will fail
might just think to obtain funds from investors after that they disappear

you use the name of Sasha that investors are interested, you are wrong I say waves project failed because the funds collected are quite large but the price at the time of release Waves plummeted 2X priced ICO

This project together with the project ProProfil which has the concept in the field of construction, until today only raise funds 0,02btc  ;D ;D
This link project similar to the project ZrCoin

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1808911.0


Eutherium is Russian ICO, just to let you know :)
And it's very sucsefull
Waves would be good as well ( how much time Eutherium was needed to go up ??), waves is only 8 months old, and development is going on. The price is the matter of time.
Google is invited by Russians as well:)

Indeed Vitalik are From Russia
but he is learning and growing in America is not in Russia

he was BORN in Russia, but "raised and growing" in Canada actually, do you even check facts or just spit stuff? ;p
went to an Ontario university, blah blah read the wiki nigga :D


Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: jerald125 on March 19, 2017, 02:27:51 AM
Hi guys. Who speak russian? Когда можно будет инвестирование сделать. Очень интересно как будет развиватся данная компания на блокчейне waves. Я сам инвестировал на платформе Waves.


Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: Scrotum on March 19, 2017, 02:28:07 AM
Is this asset involved with Waves, is it a joint venture?


Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: kingorbust on March 19, 2017, 03:39:28 AM
good luck! But why not mention waves anywhere? At least I didnt see it when I read this ANN fast.


Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: Kimpoiluiseta on March 19, 2017, 04:08:58 AM
not explain detail youre coin dev
total suply coin, tipe coin, total premine, and when ico selling, open bounty or not


Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: zebulun on March 19, 2017, 04:24:55 AM
@ZrCoin, will you be marketing the ZrCoin ICO to non-Crypto investors?

Please read the below dialogue that I've just had with one of my colleagues in the Waves slack channel, and tell me what you think. This is not FUD! As Waves investors we REALLY want this project to succeed!!!


Me:

I'd be interested to know how you've interpreted the whitepaper.
From my understanding. You are simply buying the Zr02 option at a 50% discount during the ICO. Then getting paid retail price for it 8 months later. So after 8 months they make monthly purchases of the tokens at twice the price you initially paid (there's your 100% returns). If it takes them 12 months to buy back all the tokens/options, then that is where the 5.5% monthly returns come from - Cause 5.5% compounded over 12 months is approx 100%.
The chances are that I'm wrong. Would like to know what others think.
I don't see how the returns are going to be greater than 100%, since the token is backed by Synth ZrO2, so it's only ever going to be worth what the price of synthetic ZrO2 is (which admittedly could increase in value, but I'm assuming it'll remain the same).

Technsave:

am more interested in exchanging ZrCoin for a few kilogram of the concentrate, never know when you need some of this around the house. :laughing:
I can't see the amount of funds they are hopping to raise?

Me:

On twitter it said "3,5 million" - I'm assuming that means 3.5 mil USD.
Sorry that wasn't twitter, that was the bitcointalk thread.
Part of me wants to invest just so I can say that I've invested in a "synthetic zirconium dioxide manufacturing plant in Russia" - it sounds pretty cool.

Technsave:

Yep - I have a similar take on the whitepaper. Still a few unknown factors surrounding the buyback length of time etc.
One would assume that there would be limited use of the token. It is essentially a loan with a rate of return.

Me:

Pretty much, you're not really going to take delivery of the concrete.

Technsave:

So cant see it being listed on exchanges - would be suited to WavesDex for transfer of the tokens if you want to sell out early.
But I would consider this a real world use case for CATS so bravo to that :clap:

Me:

Absolutely. If this thing can be a real world use case for Waves, then it's massive. Ethereum has yet to provide such a thing.
Waves will have bragging rights

Technsave:

So the chance of making more than 100% gain is slim. The only exception being if the retail value of zirconium dioxide increase's over this time. Or if there is a favourable swap of ZrCoin to company stock (if an IPO was approved).
This is why a gateways are vital for this type of project because it is a real world project suited for fiat investors - the benefit is the use of the block-chain.
Very pleased we all had this chat - gave me clarification on my thought of this project, who it is for and who it is not for.

Me:

I hope they are marketing this ICO to non crypto people, cause as @technsave  says "It is essentially a loan with a rate of return." And 100% return is nothing to be sneezed at. But that is nothing in crypto. Most Waves holders would be hoping for a minimum 300% return by the end of the year (on the price of our waves) (edited)

Technsave:

Yep - spot on.
This project needs gateways and a sales team securing funds from business associates who are not in the cryptosphere. Waves is purely the tech not the currency


Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: zebulun on March 19, 2017, 05:13:00 AM
Here is another piece of dialogue worth discussing:


Technsave

I would hope that not many people put waves into this project as it will create immediate selling pressure on $waves and there is not enough liquidity to support this.  ZrCoin company are going to want cold hard cash or ruble at the end of the ICO because it is a real world project.
Posted in #generalToday at 2:05 PM

Me:

This point has been brought up before regarding Incent etc. Obviously Waves token holders don't want the price of their Waves to crash. But I've been pondering this and it's even more silly from the perspective of the ZrCoin company. Why the fuck would they want 3 million dollars worth of low liquidity Waves tokens that they cannot sell without crashing the price?

We can't stop businesses from accepting Waves for their ICO launches, but it's in their own best interests to get Fiat (primarily), followed by bitcoin.


Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: zebulun on March 19, 2017, 05:21:04 AM
Another question, on the ZrCoin webpage you have "Guarantor" and the names of Sasha, Alexander Rubin, Vladimir Perepelitsyn, George Daneliya. What do you mean by "Guarantor"? Are you simply talking about how these men are the escrows of the ICO funds? Or are they your "insurance" you claim to have for the 100% returns?


Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: DonApp on March 19, 2017, 07:05:34 AM
Dear ZrCoin

I am interested in your development, but I have some questions. I hope you can answer them?

1) How many coins will be for sale? Is there a fixed supply or will the amount of coins be determined by the amount of investments?
2) If there is a fixed supply, what will be done with the unsold coins?
3) What is the minimum funding goal for your ICO?

4) In your whitepaper you desribe a monthly production of 400 tons of zirconium concentrate. How did you come to this number?
5) Are there enough companies to purchase all of the zirconium concentrate you produce?
6) To produce such an amount, you will also need to have sufficient raw materials. Since I expect that the amount of Zirconium in your raw material will be low, the raw material flow will be large. Is infrastructure and supply secured?
7) You describe 2 different installations. Are both installations required to succeed this project?
8) will you only produce zirconium concentrate or will you possibly also produce other rare earth metals?
9) You have a site identified to construct your installations. Are all permits arranged?
10) Construction time seems very short. Typically some parts will have order times of few monts to half a year. How do you ensure that construction will be finished in time?

The project is close to my background, so thanks in advance for your answers :)

Thank you for lots of questions!
Well, lets start.

1. Amount of coins will be determined by the amount of investments. 1.4$ for 1 token.
2. As you can get from punkt 1, we ll not have unsold tokens.
3. Minimum is 3,5 millions $ in sum of all investments.
7 millions will be also good, it ll allow to build the second production line and all process ll be much faster.

4. 400 tons of zirconium concentrate per month - it's estimated power of the plant.
If we count our planned supply and work of equipment and people and this everything ll happen in time, so we can estimate that we ll have 400 tons of concetrate.
5. Yes, there are a lot. Zirconium concetrate is a highly demand product for some kind of factories which connected with high temperature production. We ll publish surely some research about it to proof this information. Surely to trust to this project this information should be clear and evident. But for now you can google and read some scientific research about this market.
6. This is especially good question. But surely the answer is yes. There are enough raw material around and we have enough experience in such kind of logistic.
7. Yes, it's required to have both of them. It's not real installions, I would say it's 2 steps of production.
8. For now our unique methodic is available and fit only to Zirconium concetrate.
9. Yes, something still is in process, but the main things are ready. And we'll publish all documents about it step by step, so I would advise to subscribe to our news here and get news from us
https://zrcoin.io/register
10. These types of constructions can be built rather fast. It's not real monumental building, it's some special production building, so it's possible to build in this short period.

I hope, I have answered to your questions.
Please don't hesitate to ask more.

And please join our
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I really appreciate it that you take the time to answer all of my questions, thanks! Is there somewhere we can see how much funds have been raised so far? And what will happen when you will not reach the required 3.5 milion?

Thanks again :)


Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: vthfvuuj on March 19, 2017, 07:24:45 AM
already follow on twitter and like on facebook


Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: Conic on March 19, 2017, 07:30:56 AM
You just don't make guarantees on investments.  Ever.

Unless you are a Ponzi scheme.


Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: eastwind_ja on March 19, 2017, 07:44:08 AM
just care about he dev team,  any team information?  this is the most important thing


Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: bogdanbm on March 19, 2017, 07:58:53 AM
just care about he dev team,  any team information?  this is the most important thing

You realize it is a factory with workers and not a development business right? They don't need developers


Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: bogdanbm on March 19, 2017, 08:02:37 AM
You just don't make guarantees on investments.  Ever.

Unless you are a Ponzi scheme.

I don't understand you people, if they promise something you are not happy, if they don't give any guarantees you are not happy.


Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: Conic on March 19, 2017, 08:08:54 AM
Construction
Crowdsourced funds will be used to construct a state-of-the-art green manufacturing facility for the production of Synth. ZrO2 with purity >66%.

Production areas are purchased also

Could you show some related documents about production areas you had purchased?


Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: bogdanbm on March 19, 2017, 08:10:17 AM
Also I noticed most of you don't see a thing. You can buy now ZRC for 1.4$, additional you get 50% more. This means that, you basically buy ZRC for 0.9-1$/zrc.
They are going to buy it from you with the market price of zirconiu which is 2.8$ the next year, it is around 2.8-2.9x ROI. ZrCoin please correct me if I am wrong. Of course that if you miss the bonus, you will "only" get 2x profit. I saw that many of you also don't understand why 100% profit is possible and call it a ponzi or so. It is not. This is a factory, you can aprox. how much you will produce and sell, is not a big deal, many of us have invested in projects where there was nothing you can touch, only digital lines of code and that's it, my opinion is that this is something different, with proofs, and if Sasha support them, I will support them too. They are unique in the world which is "nice". So I don't see any reason that they can't respect their promises.


Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: Triload on March 19, 2017, 08:28:23 AM
To be honest, I can't find any reason why we need to invest in your project, do you use escrows? No. Do you disclose the information of the team? No.

So, no money.


Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: DonApp on March 19, 2017, 09:10:02 AM
To be honest, I can't find any reason why we need to invest in your project, do you use escrows? No. Do you disclose the information of the team? No.

So, no money.

The team is on their website, with names & pictures. I am also eager to hear whether escrow will be used and whether a full refund will be provided in case minimum funding is not reached.


Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: bogdanbm on March 19, 2017, 10:20:37 AM
The funding page doesn't work, I can generate adresses to deposit none of the cryptos.


Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: bezbezbez on March 19, 2017, 11:11:41 AM
The funding page doesn't work, I can generate adresses to deposit none of the cryptos.

ICO hasn`t started yet


Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: silencesilence on March 19, 2017, 11:22:02 AM
The funding page doesn't work, I can generate adresses to deposit none of the cryptos.

ICO hasn`t started yet

interesting road-map
ICO = December 2017 - October 2018 ???


Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: SailingDildo on March 19, 2017, 11:25:52 AM
The funding page doesn't work, I can generate adresses to deposit none of the cryptos.

ICO hasn`t started yet

interesting road-map
ICO = December 2017 - October 2018 ???

Well, i dunno where you took it from, but on their website's roadmap is "Investment company March 2017 - April 2017"


Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: bezbezbez on March 19, 2017, 11:30:04 AM
just care about he dev team,  any team information?  this is the most important thing

Perepelitsyn V.A. http://lib.urfu.ru/mns-urfu/author/10044/source/scopus?page=1


Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: KoinMaster on March 19, 2017, 11:45:38 AM
I think it is an interesting project and looks promising, however I would like to know more about it before investing in it.


Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: Sharma on March 19, 2017, 11:55:23 AM
impressive idea.Looking forward to get more details and ICO date.


Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: SailingDildo on March 19, 2017, 12:15:40 PM
The funding page doesn't work, I can generate adresses to deposit none of the cryptos.
Looks like ICO hasn't started yet so that no wallets for us yet  ;D


Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: ngthteh on March 19, 2017, 12:19:16 PM
we must do it "Looking forward to get more details and ICO date".


Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: Yefet on March 19, 2017, 01:27:17 PM
To be honest, I can't find any reason why we need to invest in your project, do you use escrows? No. Do you disclose the information of the team? No.

So, no money.

The team is on their website, with names & pictures. I am also eager to hear whether escrow will be used and whether a full refund will be provided in case minimum funding is not reached.

Sasha from Waves will be the escrow https://twitter.com/sasha35625/status/843142967741288448 (https://twitter.com/sasha35625/status/843142967741288448)

check the site of the project and ask the other project's "guarantors" about the garanties they provide for the ZrCoin project


to invest in the project we should have some idea about the business & its economy,ie study the Zr/ZrO2 market and its trends

and why these guys go crypto instead of the traditional banks  ;)


Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: matejbilahora on March 19, 2017, 02:12:35 PM
Ico has not started but 50% bonus ends in 33hr. Or does Ico start at that time?


Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: memequiserle on March 19, 2017, 02:16:17 PM
how much total suply zrcoin
in roadmap i can't found date in ico selling
any bounty campaign, signature campaign and social media campaign


Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: Vlegale on March 19, 2017, 02:55:56 PM
To be honest, I can't find any reason why we need to invest in your project, do you use escrows? No. Do you disclose the information of the team? No.

So, no money.

The team is on their website, with names & pictures. I am also eager to hear whether escrow will be used and whether a full refund will be provided in case minimum funding is not reached.

Sasha from Waves will be the escrow https://twitter.com/sasha35625/status/843142967741288448 (https://twitter.com/sasha35625/status/843142967741288448)

check the site of the project and ask the other project's "guarantors" about the garanties they provide for the ZrCoin project


to invest in the project we should have some idea about the business & its economy,ie study the Zr/ZrO2 market and its trends

and why these guys go crypto instead of the traditional banks  ;)

I think crypto should change the world of finance, so real business can get money directly.


Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: erikalui on March 19, 2017, 03:01:36 PM
Is there any bounty for translation?


Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: BitcoinRonnie on March 19, 2017, 03:07:40 PM
Is there any bounty for translation?

Also interested in what kind of bounties are provided on the ICO stage?


Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: UGC on March 19, 2017, 03:19:44 PM
Ico has not started but 50% bonus ends in 33hr. Or does Ico start at that time?

there is something fishy about this coin


Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: neolinkhati on March 19, 2017, 03:27:22 PM
Cool project! WAVES Asset, excellent!

Translation bounty? I would like to reserve portuguese language! Thanks!


Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: Dirgantara on March 19, 2017, 03:49:29 PM
So you're about to built a factory, a real factory, of zirconium concentrate, sell the product, and asking payment in ZrCoin or what?


Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: Yefet on March 19, 2017, 04:01:00 PM

Sasha from Waves will be the escrow https://twitter.com/sasha35625/status/843142967741288448 (https://twitter.com/sasha35625/status/843142967741288448)

check the site of the project and ask the other project's "guarantors" about the garanties they provide for the ZrCoin project


to invest in the project we should have some idea about the business & its economy,ie study the Zr/ZrO2 market and its trends

and why these guys go crypto instead of the traditional banks  ;)

I think crypto should change the world of finance, so real business can get money directly.


yes, agree, but the keyword here is real
could anyone tell which real business is behind this ZrCoin ICO?

ZrCoin team would need to explain to the Russian tax office where they got $3,5 mln, you can't build a plant without contacting the state authorities and getting the permission.



Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: davide72 on March 19, 2017, 04:08:53 PM
sasha from waves is the escrow.... i am out !


Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: killerjoegreece on March 19, 2017, 04:48:08 PM
Is there going to be a translation bounty? I would like to reserve the italian language  :)

Ok.

Yes, we ll have something for translators.
Not for all languages, but italian in the list.

Is Greek in the list sir? If it is I would like to reserve it. Thank you.


Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: restless on March 19, 2017, 04:52:02 PM
let's wait for more info :)


Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: matejbilahora on March 19, 2017, 05:05:06 PM
Ico has not started but 50% bonus ends in 33hr. Or does Ico start at that time?

there is something fishy about this coin
Well so I am not the only one. Strange coin. But lets wait and see..


Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: Yefet on March 19, 2017, 06:16:05 PM
Ico has not started but 50% bonus ends in 33hr. Or does Ico start at that time?

there is something fishy about this coin
Well so I am not the only one. Strange coin. But lets wait and see..

if nothing changes I do not see any chances for ZrCoin to get necessary investment to build the plant from the ICO

and we, the bitcointalkers, will be to blame for their failure - (sarcasm ;)

so there's nothing to wait for - another RESPECTONOMY (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1732589.0) or BlockCDN (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1611265.0)?


Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: DonApp on March 19, 2017, 06:22:12 PM

Sasha from Waves will be the escrow https://twitter.com/sasha35625/status/843142967741288448 (https://twitter.com/sasha35625/status/843142967741288448)

check the site of the project and ask the other project's "guarantors" about the garanties they provide for the ZrCoin project


to invest in the project we should have some idea about the business & its economy,ie study the Zr/ZrO2 market and its trends

and why these guys go crypto instead of the traditional banks  ;)

I think crypto should change the world of finance, so real business can get money directly.


yes, agree, but the keyword here is real
could anyone tell which real business is behind this ZrCoin ICO?

ZrCoin team would need to explain to the Russian tax office where they got $3,5 mln, you can't build a plant without contacting the state authorities and getting the permission.



Russia is quite pro-blockchain and looking at the close relation between the waves platform and Russian politics I think it will be worked out (see https://blog.wavesplatform.com/first-blockchain-social-platform-launched-based-on-waves-35894d5f202#.gc4pt7x6h )


Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: Yefet on March 19, 2017, 06:32:59 PM

Russia is quite pro-blockchain and looking at the close relation between the waves platform and Russian politics I think it will be worked out (see https://blog.wavesplatform.com/first-blockchain-social-platform-launched-based-on-waves-35894d5f202#.gc4pt7x6h )

I wouldn't bet and won't bet on this "quite pro-blockchain" & "the close relation" :)

Of course there can be something we do not see and do not know, eg an angel investor behind the project & some kind of government support (if so - kol hakavod le sasha  ;D
but for now it is all only a speculation without any evidence



Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: Vlegale on March 19, 2017, 06:57:07 PM

Sasha from Waves will be the escrow https://twitter.com/sasha35625/status/843142967741288448 (https://twitter.com/sasha35625/status/843142967741288448)

check the site of the project and ask the other project's "guarantors" about the garanties they provide for the ZrCoin project


to invest in the project we should have some idea about the business & its economy,ie study the Zr/ZrO2 market and its trends

and why these guys go crypto instead of the traditional banks  ;)

I think crypto should change the world of finance, so real business can get money directly.


yes, agree, but the keyword here is real
could anyone tell which real business is behind this ZrCoin ICO?

ZrCoin team would need to explain to the Russian tax office where they got $3,5 mln, you can't build a plant without contacting the state authorities and getting the permission.



You do not read terms and conditions!
Zrcoin ltd in Russia does not recive investments in crypto,
Money goes to UK companyfirst,  them to the Russian company .
The tax office would not have any problems with this.


Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: Yefet on March 19, 2017, 07:06:15 PM

could anyone tell which real business is behind this ZrCoin ICO?

ZrCoin team would need to explain to the Russian tax office where they got $3,5 mln, you can't build a plant without contacting the state authorities and getting the permission.



You do not read terms and conditions!
Zrcoin ltd in Russia does not recive investments in crypto,
Money goes to UK companyfirst,  them to the Russian company .
The tax office would not have any problems with this.


that's what & why I was asking  :)

so it's somewhere in "terms and conditions" (https://zrcoin.io/terms_conditions)  :o, OK, let's try to find & check it out

PS  ???

"ZRCOIN.IO RESERVES THE RIGHT TO CHANGE, MODIFY, ADD OR REMOVE PORTIONS OF THESE TERMS AT ANY TIME FOR ANY REASON. WE SUGGEST THAT YOU REVIEW THESE TERMS PERIODICALLY FOR CHANGES. SUCH CHANGES SHALL BE EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY UPON POSTING. YOU ACKNOWLEDGE THAT BY ACCESSING OUR WEBSITE AFTER WE HAVE POSTED CHANGES TO THESE TERMS, YOU ARE AGREEING TO THE MODIFIED TERMS."


Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: Vlegale on March 19, 2017, 07:12:25 PM
Zrcoin for me look very promising
Of course, there are many question to be asked, but this is what this forum all about.
Let's see full picture, documents that suppose to be downloaded soon in the personal space on the Zrcoin.io
And after all picture is full , time to make a decision yes or no.


Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: NorthPixel on March 19, 2017, 07:12:50 PM
Waiting for the launch of the bounties campaign, it is necessary to attract more investors.


Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: Yefet on March 19, 2017, 07:20:40 PM
Zrcoin for me look very promising
Of course, there are many question to be asked, but this is what this forum all about.
Let's see full picture, documents that suppose to be downloaded soon in the personal space on the Zrcoin.io
And after all picture is full , time to make a decision yes or no.


you are a member of ZrCoin (marketing) team, aren't you?

so give the people here what they want from the new ICO ANN - bounties for translation, the signature campaign etc  ;D

let the show begin


Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: docker on March 19, 2017, 07:23:20 PM
I like the graphics of this coin reminds me of Breaking Bad. The introduction video is simple and clear, the concept itself is amazing I can't wait to see more mates. Also Sasha from WAVES as escrow is a plus.


Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: Vlegale on March 19, 2017, 08:57:36 PM
Zrcoin for me look very promising
Of course, there are many question to be asked, but this is what this forum all about.
Let's see full picture, documents that suppose to be downloaded soon in the personal space on the Zrcoin.io
And after all picture is full , time to make a decision yes or no.


you are a member of ZrCoin (marketing) team, aren't you?

so give the people here what they want from the new ICO ANN - bounties for translation, the signature campaign etc  ;D

let the show begin
:) this is not my job
Waiting by myself to sell my signature space for Zrcoins


Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: ZrCoin on March 19, 2017, 10:08:01 PM
I like the graphics of this coin reminds me of Breaking Bad. The introduction video is simple and clear, the concept itself is amazing I can't wait to see more mates. Also Sasha from WAVES as escrow is a plus.

Thank you for support.
I am glad you noticed some connection with Breaking Bad.
Yes, it is  ;D

We ll answer to all your questions soon.
For now I can say briefly.
ICO ll be soon.
Bounty will be soon.
Translations will be soon.

Stay tuned  ;) :D


Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: coinporch on March 20, 2017, 01:06:51 AM
this is the first ICO on Wavesplatform, as i know waveplatform is one of the successfull project in cryptocurrency,,
i think this one is promissing


Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: Jcga on March 20, 2017, 05:04:53 AM
Great guyz your project is very promising.

I can send you my cv for the french translations.

Very cool to use the Waves Plateform for your Ico.
Last summer I have participated to the Waves Testnodes program.

All my best to the ZrCoin team :)


Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: kolionovo on March 20, 2017, 09:36:53 AM
The idea is good. But the Declaration about 100%, concerned


Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: miramare on March 20, 2017, 10:05:29 AM
oh, some new concepts. ;D ;D


Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: bezbezbez on March 20, 2017, 12:16:32 PM
Chinese thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1834641.0


Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: Cassius on March 20, 2017, 01:18:54 PM
this is the first ICO on Wavesplatform, as i know waveplatform is one of the successfull project in cryptocurrency,,
i think this one is promissing

One of many. And I think there will be many more commodity-backed blockchain tokens to come. But this is a nice start :)


Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: 4iribasik on March 20, 2017, 01:40:33 PM
Looks promising!


Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: rauf12 on March 20, 2017, 01:59:02 PM
ICO site is not showing addresses


Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: bezbezbez on March 20, 2017, 02:13:38 PM
ICO site is not showing addresses

ICO has not started yet!


Title: Re: 🌟🚀[ANN] ZrCoin 📈 The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option 🚀🌟
Post by: matsud2 on March 20, 2017, 03:21:39 PM
Interesting project from waves platform, waiting more informations


Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: ZrCoin on March 20, 2017, 11:08:20 PM
this is the first ICO on Wavesplatform, as i know waveplatform is one of the successfull project in cryptocurrency,,
i think this one is promissing

One of many. And I think there will be many more commodity-backed blockchain tokens to come. But this is a nice start :)

It's true.
Probaby we will see more and more commodity-backed blockchain projects in future.

We ll update information about our project, Bounty and ICO.
Stay tuned!

Dont't forget to register in newsletter to be informed and don't miss anything
https://zrcoin.io/register


Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: BitcoinRonnie on March 21, 2017, 10:20:01 AM
this is the first ICO on Wavesplatform, as i know waveplatform is one of the successfull project in cryptocurrency,,
i think this one is promissing

One of many. And I think there will be many more commodity-backed blockchain tokens to come. But this is a nice start :)

It's true.
Probaby we will see more and more commodity-backed blockchain projects in future.

We ll update information about our project, Bounty and ICO.
Stay tuned!

Dont't forget to register in newsletter to be informed and don't miss anything
https://zrcoin.io/register

Let's make the Waves platform a kind of stock market, where we can trade assets of real business.


Title: Re: 🌟🚀[ANN] ZrCoin 📈 The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option 🚀🌟
Post by: bezbezbez on March 21, 2017, 01:11:02 PM
New publication about ZrCoin!
https://www.finextra.com/pressarticle/68523/zrcoin-crowdfunds-commodities-option-on-the-blockchain


Title: Re: 🌟🚀[ANN] ZrCoin 📈 The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option 🚀🌟
Post by: LGD2Business on March 21, 2017, 03:06:46 PM
Interesting project, I got a mail from WAVES newsletter and saw this coin first. I may join ICO when I get full information.
I'll follow this thread, will it have also bounty programs? Newsletter etc.


Title: Re: 🌟🚀[ANN] ZrCoin 📈 The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option 🚀🌟
Post by: RoHoss on March 21, 2017, 03:16:52 PM
Very good for Waves. I am sure the Ico will be a success.


Title: Pricing
Post by: cryptobeck on March 21, 2017, 03:26:49 PM
Hi,

Looks good and I am thinking about investing. However, I have some question about your pricing.

I am not sure if I should ask them on this list, but I cannot find an email address on your site and live support does not work (yet).


Title: Re: 🌟🚀[ANN] ZrCoin 📈 The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option 🚀🌟
Post by: bezbezbez on March 21, 2017, 03:30:47 PM
New publication about ZrCoin

A new initiative will hold an initial coin offering (ICO) for the production of an industrial material using green technologies – creating the “first” commodity-backed cryptographic token in the process.

http://www.bankingtech.com/775832/zrcoin-crowdfunds-first-ever-commodities-option-on-blockchain/


Title: Re: 🌟🚀[ANN] ZrCoin 📈 The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option 🚀🌟
Post by: blauw on March 21, 2017, 03:55:15 PM
Hi all,  look great, Im looking forward and
 waiting for twitter bounty sir! :) :)

I want to do the Dutch  translation, for the bounty!


Title: Re: 🌟🚀[ANN] ZrCoin 📈 The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option 🚀🌟
Post by: clixcoin on March 21, 2017, 03:56:49 PM
I got an email from Waves about this project so will keep in touch with thread and will see how this will go. Buy back is looking interesting option and how team will manage the ICO in future so good luck.


Title: Re: 🌟🚀[ANN] ZrCoin 📈 The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option 🚀🌟
Post by: ICOindex.com on March 21, 2017, 04:24:07 PM
So when does the ICO start? On your website, there is written March-April. Not very specific. People need exact date and time.

If I look at your timeline you are planning to build the production line between May 2017 and November 2017. Then the buy-back process starts in January 2018.
This means that earliest in January 2018 you will be able to buy the tokens back (not counting with possible delays)

There is no logical reason to do an Initial Coin Offering and allocate funds for marketing the ICO. The project does not seem to be interesting for the crypto community and you will find it hard getting the required 3 mil USD.

From my point of view, more suitable way of funding this project would be straight through option/futures contracts with your customers that will buy the synthetic zirconium dioxide in the future and therefore can save money.








Title: Re: 🌟🚀[ANN] ZrCoin 📈 The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option 🚀🌟
Post by: ZrCoin on March 21, 2017, 04:37:29 PM
Whats spesification this token ?
Amount of tokens depends on ICO result.

Each participant buys token with price 1,4$. After ICO they become tradable and you can sell it with price 2,8$ at the final stage.
So it's option working as derevative.

1,4 and 2,8 comes from current price for 1 kg of Zirconium Dioxide (ZrO2).

For such plant we need 3,5 millions $.

Details in White Paper
https://zrcoin.io/files/Whitepaper_ENG.pdf

And ask your questions.

Join TELEGRAM (https://t.me/joinchat/AAAAAAyr_p_eKwLkzlHvfg)
And like our FACEBOOK (https://www.facebook.com/ZrCoin-1351198381592065/)

Stay tuned!


Title: Re: 🌟🚀[ANN] ZrCoin 📈 The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option 🚀🌟
Post by: abonarea on March 21, 2017, 04:56:49 PM
After knowing about this project through newsletter now I will permanent eye on the thread to catch every single development. This is not hard to guess this will turn into something big for sure. Just look at the concept with new ambitions and team to take it at peaks.


Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: ZrCoin on March 21, 2017, 04:58:09 PM
Zrcoin for me look very promising
Of course, there are many question to be asked, but this is what this forum all about.
Let's see full picture, documents that suppose to be downloaded soon in the personal space on the Zrcoin.io
And after all picture is full , time to make a decision yes or no.


Thank you for support.
You can ask your questions to make things more clear for everyone.
Probably lots of users have similar or close questions.
We would like to explain everything.


Title: Re: [ANN] ZrCoin - The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option
Post by: ZrCoin on March 21, 2017, 05:07:01 PM
Great guyz your project is very promising.

I can send you my cv for the french translations.

Very cool to use the Waves Plateform for your Ico.
Last summer I have participated to the Waves Testnodes program.

All my best to the ZrCoin team :)


Thanks for your kind words!
Yes, Wavesplatform is cool.
We ll announce our Bounty campaign during next days.
And yes, you can apply for french translation when we ll announce start.



Title: Re: Pricing
Post by: ZrCoin on March 21, 2017, 05:12:14 PM
Hi,

Looks good and I am thinking about investing. However, I have some question about your pricing.

I am not sure if I should ask them on this list, but I cannot find an email address on your site and live support does not work (yet).

You can join Telegram chat and ask your questions.
It's chat where all the main developers are:
TELEGRAM (https://t.me/joinchat/AAAAAAyr_p_eKwLkzlHvfg)

Or you can ask here also.
If you want to ask more privately, you can ask me in PM.


Title: Re: 🌟🚀[ANN] ZrCoin 📈 The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option 🚀🌟
Post by: ZrCoin on March 21, 2017, 05:16:53 PM
So when does the ICO start? On your website, there is written March-April. Not very specific. People need exact date and time.

If I look at your timeline you are planning to build the production line between May 2017 and November 2017. Then the buy-back process starts in January 2018.
This means that earliest in January 2018 you will be able to buy the tokens back (not counting with possible delays)

There is no logical reason to do an Initial Coin Offering and allocate funds for marketing the ICO. The project does not seem to be interesting for the crypto community and you will find it hard getting the required 3 mil USD.

From my point of view, more suitable way of funding this project would be straight through option/futures contracts with your customers that will buy the synthetic zirconium dioxide in the future and therefore can save money.

Thank you for your opinion, but we think in other way.
You are right, we are not typical crypto project, but we would think, it's our advantage ;)


Title: Re: 🌟🚀[ANN] ZrCoin 📈 The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option 🚀🌟
Post by: rogerajacto on March 21, 2017, 06:08:14 PM
I have some questions regarding the buy back process...

"Buy-back of ZrCoin options will be made eight months after the end of the ICO in an amount equal to not less than $400,000 per month. "

How will this amount ("not less than 400k") be calculated?

If the minimum amount of investment is 3,5M, with 400k/month it will take, as least, 9 months to finish the buy back process, correct?

Will the investors be "compensated" considering the percentage they hold in the total amount, i.e., if i have 1% of the 3,5M, i will receive 1% of the 400k each month? If so, all investors will be totally compensated at the same time correct?

Beside the answers, please feel free to include more information about this matter.

Good luck with your project!!


Title: Re: 🌟🚀[ANN] ZrCoin 📈 The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option 🚀🌟
Post by: Nea Sandu on March 21, 2017, 07:56:05 PM
Hey guys!
It looks like recyclix :) in Decentralized way
I will folow this project to see where it goes.
Good luck guys!

Btw, any ideea why telegram link is not working? (this invite link is broken or has expired)


Title: Re: 🌟🚀[ANN] ZrCoin 📈 The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option 🚀🌟
Post by: ZrCoin on March 21, 2017, 08:19:21 PM
Hey guys!
It looks like recyclix :) in Decentralized way
I will folow this project to see where it goes.
Good luck guys!

Btw, any ideea why telegram link is not working? (this invite link is broken or has expired)

Hm.
Please, try this link.
It should work
https://t.me/joinchat/AAAAAEISxUZkgdSaCEGHiQ


Title: Re: 🌟🚀[ANN] ZrCoin 📈 The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option 🚀🌟
Post by: bezbezbez on March 21, 2017, 10:43:49 PM
Hey guys!
It looks like recyclix :) in Decentralized way
I will folow this project to see where it goes.
Good luck guys!

Btw, any ideea why telegram link is not working? (this invite link is broken or has expired)

Hm.
Please, try this link.
It should work
https://t.me/joinchat/AAAAAEISxUZkgdSaCEGHiQ

It works for me!


Title: Re: 🌟🚀[ANN] ZrCoin 📈 The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option 🚀🌟
Post by: republicrypto on March 22, 2017, 02:08:01 AM
Hey guys!
It looks like recyclix :) in Decentralized way
I will folow this project to see where it goes.
Good luck guys!

Btw, any ideea why telegram link is not working? (this invite link is broken or has expired)
exactly,,
and this is very promissing project,,



Title: Re: 🌟🚀[ANN] ZrCoin 📈 The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option 🚀🌟
Post by: igor 3012 on March 22, 2017, 07:07:10 AM
already follow on twitter and like on facebook


Title: Re: 🌟🚀[ANN] ZrCoin 📈 The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option 🚀🌟
Post by: zebulun on March 22, 2017, 07:32:04 AM
ZrCoin, you didn't answer my questions a few pages back. FIRST QUESTION: Will you be marketing this investment opportunity to non crypto people? 100% sounds enticing to regular people who don't know about cryptocurrency, but a number of crypto coins have gone up 1000% since the beginning of this year. Wavesplatform will also likely go up more than 200% by the end of the year, possibly a lot more, especially if this ICO is successful and gets a lot of publicity. So there isn't much of an incentive for people within the existing cryptocurrency ecosystem to invest for 100% gains compared to regular fiat investors.

So lack of funding is a big concern for me. This brings me to my SECOND QUESTION: What will you do if you don't raise the minimum amount, which I assume is 3.5 mil USD? Will you refund to investors or what?

And THIRD QUESTION: why accept Waves for this ICO? It may seem like a good idea at 1st glance, especially since you're using the Wavesplatform for this ICO, but at the moment Waves is largely illiquid token with low volume. The last thing you'd want is 1-2 million dollars worth of a token you can't sell without crashing the price. A lot of Waves investors are concerned about this as they don't want the price of their token to crash. But to be honest, you guys are the ones that should be the most concerned. Surely just US dollars & bitcoin is the preferred payment method.



Title: Re: 🌟🚀[ANN] ZrCoin 📈 The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option 🚀🌟
Post by: niking on March 22, 2017, 07:48:21 AM
I just open my account, but don't get a confirmation email, so can't confirm my email.
Guess I can't invest before the email is confirmed? How can I request a resend of the confirmation email?


Title: Re: 🌟🚀[ANN] ZrCoin 📈 The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option 🚀🌟
Post by: bezbezbez on March 22, 2017, 11:44:11 AM
ZrCoin Crowdfunds First Ever Commodities Option On The Blockchain

https://cointelegraph.com/press-releases/zrcoin-crowdfunds-first-ever-commodities-option-on-the-blockchain


Title: Re: 🌟🚀[ANN] ZrCoin 📈 The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option 🚀🌟
Post by: ZrCoin on March 22, 2017, 02:27:38 PM
I just open my account, but don't get a confirmation email, so can't confirm my email.
Guess I can't invest before the email is confirmed? How can I request a resend of the confirmation email?

ICO has not been started yet, so members can invest later.

But about confirmation of email, have you checked spam folder?
Could it fall there?


Title: Re: 🌟🚀[ANN] ZrCoin 📈 The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option 🚀🌟
Post by: ZrCoin on March 22, 2017, 02:38:30 PM
ZrCoin, you didn't answer my questions a few pages back. FIRST QUESTION: Will you be marketing this investment opportunity to non crypto people? 100% sounds enticing to regular people who don't know about cryptocurrency, but a number of crypto coins have gone up 1000% since the beginning of this year. Wavesplatform will also likely go up more than 200% by the end of the year, possibly a lot more, especially if this ICO is successful and gets a lot of publicity. So there isn't much of an incentive for people within the existing cryptocurrency ecosystem to invest for 100% gains compared to regular fiat investors.

So lack of funding is a big concern for me. This brings me to my SECOND QUESTION: What will you do if you don't raise the minimum amount, which I assume is 3.5 mil USD? Will you refund to investors or what?

And THIRD QUESTION: why accept Waves for this ICO? It may seem like a good idea at 1st glance, especially since you're using the Wavesplatform for this ICO, but at the moment Waves is largely illiquid token with low volume. The last thing you'd want is 1-2 million dollars worth of a token you can't sell without crashing the price. A lot of Waves investors are concerned about this as they don't want the price of their token to crash. But to be honest, you guys are the ones that should be the most concerned. Surely just US dollars & bitcoin is the preferred payment method.


Sorry for not responding.
We could miss something.

So the first question.
Yes, we would like non crypto people to join ICO for sure.
We accept fiat and in general will be happy if investments will be in dollars and euro.
It's not typical crypto startup. It's real plant which we want to build and look for investment using new ways.
It's somehow new step in economics and development of it.
Thus, for sure it's good opportunity for investment for non crypto people.

The second - In general, if we would not raise 3,5 millions, we would refund investors, yes.

The third - We accept everything, but you are right. As I ve alredy mentioned, fiat is preffered for us, but bitcoins are also OK.


Title: Re: 🌟🚀[ANN] ZrCoin 📈 The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option 🚀🌟
Post by: itismoney4me on March 22, 2017, 03:20:18 PM
I just open my account, but don't get a confirmation email, so can't confirm my email.
Guess I can't invest before the email is confirmed? How can I request a resend of the confirmation email?

I have the same problem, I also checked Spam folder ... ???


Title: Re: 🌟🚀[ANN] ZrCoin 📈 The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option 🚀🌟
Post by: ZrCoin on March 22, 2017, 03:33:07 PM
I have some questions regarding the buy back process...

"Buy-back of ZrCoin options will be made eight months after the end of the ICO in an amount equal to not less than $400,000 per month. "

How will this amount ("not less than 400k") be calculated?

If the minimum amount of investment is 3,5M, with 400k/month it will take, as least, 9 months to finish the buy back process, correct?

Will the investors be "compensated" considering the percentage they hold in the total amount, i.e., if i have 1% of the 3,5M, i will receive 1% of the 400k each month? If so, all investors will be totally compensated at the same time correct?

Beside the answers, please feel free to include more information about this matter.

Good luck with your project!!

400k is calculated from the whole model of income.
After ICO token will be tradable on exchange. There is no compensation as you say. It's not classical dividends.
After 8 months we ll start to buy-back tokens with total amount 400,000$ per month.
Order will be determined as usual on exchanges.
And yes, 9 months will cover 3,5 mln$ of all investments from all investors.

If we would raise 7 mln$, we ll be able to create the second line of production.
So buy-back process will be with amount 800,000$ instead of amount 400,000$.

Don't hesitate to ask more.
And join our telegram chat
https://t.me/joinchat/AAAAAAyr_p_eKwLkzlHvfg

Some cool devs of the project are there.


Title: Re: 🌟🚀[ANN] ZrCoin 📈 The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option 🚀🌟
Post by: ZrCoin on March 22, 2017, 03:36:13 PM
I just open my account, but don't get a confirmation email, so can't confirm my email.
Guess I can't invest before the email is confirmed? How can I request a resend of the confirmation email?

I have the same problem, I also checked Spam folder ... ???

Not cool.
I ve contacted technical support.
They ll check.

Thank you for information!



Title: Re: 🌟🚀[ANN] ZrCoin 📈 The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option 🚀🌟
Post by: ZrCoin on March 22, 2017, 05:19:36 PM
New publication about us!

http://www.the-blockchain.com/2017/03/21/zrcoin-initial-coin-offering-ico-crowdfunds-commodities-option/


Title: Re: 🌟🚀[ANN] ZrCoin 📈 The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option 🚀🌟
Post by: styn234 on March 22, 2017, 05:20:57 PM
like the idea
dunno where the 1million usd in research&development was supposed to come from tho lol


Title: Re: 🌟🚀[ANN] ZrCoin 📈 The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option 🚀🌟
Post by: bezbezbez on March 22, 2017, 05:58:19 PM
ZrCoin crowdfunds first ever commodities option on the blockchain:

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/zrcoin-crowdfunds-first-ever-commodities-option-blockchain-1613021


Title: Re: 🌟🚀[ANN] ZrCoin 📈 The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option 🚀🌟
Post by: itismoney4me on March 22, 2017, 09:21:49 PM
I just open my account, but don't get a confirmation email, so can't confirm my email.
Guess I can't invest before the email is confirmed? How can I request a resend of the confirmation email?

I have the same problem, I also checked Spam folder ... ???

Not cool.
I ve contacted technical support.
They ll check.

Thank you for information!



The resend option for confirmation email is added to the dashboard, and it works!  :) very quick technical support. Thank you ;D


Title: Re: 🌟🚀[ANN] ZrCoin 📈 The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option 🚀🌟
Post by: bezbezbez on March 22, 2017, 09:41:46 PM
I just open my account, but don't get a confirmation email, so can't confirm my email.
Guess I can't invest before the email is confirmed? How can I request a resend of the confirmation email?

I have the same problem, I also checked Spam folder ... ???

Not cool.
I ve contacted technical support.
They ll check.

Thank you for information!



The resend option for confirmation email is added to the dashboard, and it works!  :) very quick technical support. Thank you ;D

Cheers!


Title: Re: 🌟🚀[ANN] ZrCoin 📈 The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option 🚀🌟
Post by: zebulun on March 22, 2017, 10:39:50 PM
ZrCoin, you didn't answer my questions a few pages back. FIRST QUESTION: Will you be marketing this investment opportunity to non crypto people? 100% sounds enticing to regular people who don't know about cryptocurrency, but a number of crypto coins have gone up 1000% since the beginning of this year. Wavesplatform will also likely go up more than 200% by the end of the year, possibly a lot more, especially if this ICO is successful and gets a lot of publicity. So there isn't much of an incentive for people within the existing cryptocurrency ecosystem to invest for 100% gains compared to regular fiat investors.

So lack of funding is a big concern for me. This brings me to my SECOND QUESTION: What will you do if you don't raise the minimum amount, which I assume is 3.5 mil USD? Will you refund to investors or what?

And THIRD QUESTION: why accept Waves for this ICO? It may seem like a good idea at 1st glance, especially since you're using the Wavesplatform for this ICO, but at the moment Waves is largely illiquid token with low volume. The last thing you'd want is 1-2 million dollars worth of a token you can't sell without crashing the price. A lot of Waves investors are concerned about this as they don't want the price of their token to crash. But to be honest, you guys are the ones that should be the most concerned. Surely just US dollars & bitcoin is the preferred payment method.


Sorry for not responding.
We could miss something.

So the first question.
Yes, we would like non crypto people to join ICO for sure.
We accept fiat and in general will be happy if investments will be in dollars and euro.
It's not typical crypto startup. It's real plant which we want to build and look for investment using new ways.
It's somehow new step in economics and development of it.
Thus, for sure it's good opportunity for investment for non crypto people.

The second - In general, if we would not raise 3,5 millions, we would refund investors, yes.

The third - We accept everything, but you are right. As I ve alredy mentioned, fiat is preffered for us, but bitcoins are also OK.


Thanks for responding. So this really does beg the question, what sort of marketing are you doing to traditional investors? Cause so far all I see is this post on bitcointalk, a few articles on blockchain websites and a tweet from Sasha. Underfunding is a big concern for me. Do you have representatives contacting people such as your potential customers? Are regular buyers of Zirconium dioxide interested in purchasing this option to buy at a discount? What about venture capitalists, are they interested in investing?


Title: Re: 🌟🚀[ANN] ZrCoin 📈 The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option 🚀🌟
Post by: schnötzel on March 22, 2017, 10:47:06 PM
bounty for german translation? pm me


Title: Re: 🌟🚀[ANN] ZrCoin 📈 The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option 🚀🌟
Post by: ZrCoin on March 23, 2017, 12:03:30 AM
ZrCoin, you didn't answer my questions a few pages back. FIRST QUESTION: Will you be marketing this investment opportunity to non crypto people? 100% sounds enticing to regular people who don't know about cryptocurrency, but a number of crypto coins have gone up 1000% since the beginning of this year. Wavesplatform will also likely go up more than 200% by the end of the year, possibly a lot more, especially if this ICO is successful and gets a lot of publicity. So there isn't much of an incentive for people within the existing cryptocurrency ecosystem to invest for 100% gains compared to regular fiat investors.

So lack of funding is a big concern for me. This brings me to my SECOND QUESTION: What will you do if you don't raise the minimum amount, which I assume is 3.5 mil USD? Will you refund to investors or what?

And THIRD QUESTION: why accept Waves for this ICO? It may seem like a good idea at 1st glance, especially since you're using the Wavesplatform for this ICO, but at the moment Waves is largely illiquid token with low volume. The last thing you'd want is 1-2 million dollars worth of a token you can't sell without crashing the price. A lot of Waves investors are concerned about this as they don't want the price of their token to crash. But to be honest, you guys are the ones that should be the most concerned. Surely just US dollars & bitcoin is the preferred payment method.


Sorry for not responding.
We could miss something.

So the first question.
Yes, we would like non crypto people to join ICO for sure.
We accept fiat and in general will be happy if investments will be in dollars and euro.
It's not typical crypto startup. It's real plant which we want to build and look for investment using new ways.
It's somehow new step in economics and development of it.
Thus, for sure it's good opportunity for investment for non crypto people.

The second - In general, if we would not raise 3,5 millions, we would refund investors, yes.

The third - We accept everything, but you are right. As I ve alredy mentioned, fiat is preffered for us, but bitcoins are also OK.


Thanks for responding. So this really does beg the question, what sort of marketing are you doing to traditional investors? Cause so far all I see is this post on bitcointalk, a few articles on blockchain websites and a tweet from Sasha. Underfunding is a big concern for me. Do you have representatives contacting people such as your potential customers? Are regular buyers of Zirconium dioxide interested in purchasing this option to buy at a discount? What about venture capitalists, are they interested in investing?

Sure!
For traditional investors we have traditional marketing.
We are working with them also.
And we ll publish more information soon.
I ll ask somebody from team to write here about your questions more detailed.



Title: Re: 🌟🚀[ANN] ZrCoin 📈 The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option 🚀🌟
Post by: ZrCoin on March 23, 2017, 12:04:24 AM
bounty for german translation? pm me

Yep, bounty will be launched tomorrow.
German translation is required  ;)


Title: Re: 🌟🚀[ANN] ZrCoin 📈 The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option 🚀🌟
Post by: PtitBit on March 23, 2017, 07:05:50 AM
@ZrCoin : in case there is a bounty for french translations, please contact me :)


Title: Re: 🌟🚀[ANN] ZrCoin 📈 The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option 🚀🌟
Post by: snowboard789 on March 23, 2017, 11:21:21 AM
Hi,

Can someone tell me what is the reason behing launching a new coin vs just making a plant with BTC and FIAT?

You want to reach out to crypto world because you are afraid institutional investors will not buy into your plan?

What is different between this and launching a Kebab Shop with it's own crypto?



Title: Re: 🌟🚀[ANN] ZrCoin 📈 The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option 🚀🌟
Post by: ZrCoin on March 23, 2017, 11:31:41 AM

Join Bounty campaign!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1839336.0


Title: Re: 🌟🚀[ANN] ZrCoin 📈 The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option 🚀🌟
Post by: ZrCoin on March 23, 2017, 01:28:29 PM
Hi,

Can someone tell me what is the reason behing launching a new coin vs just making a plant with BTC and FIAT?

You want to reach out to crypto world because you are afraid institutional investors will not buy into your plan?

What is different between this and launching a Kebab Shop with it's own crypto?


In general with such approach there is no difference between Kebab shop and a plant.
We give opportunity for people to participate in building of economics, creating token by such way.
For sure we ll attract traditional investors and use for this traditional marketing.
But as there are new ways, why should we reject it?
Such way of looking for investments it's new step for the field between finance and tehnology - Fintech.
We use the newest finance approach as blockchain and new technology for ZrO2 producing as well.




Title: Re: 🌟🚀[ANN] ZrCoin 📈 The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option 🚀🌟
Post by: bezbezbez on March 23, 2017, 01:48:41 PM
Hi,

Can someone tell me what is the reason behing launching a new coin vs just making a plant with BTC and FIAT?

You want to reach out to crypto world because you are afraid institutional investors will not buy into your plan?

What is different between this and launching a Kebab Shop with it's own crypto?


In general with such approach there is no difference between Kebab shop and plant.

Creating token by such way, we give opportunity for people to participate in building of economics.
For sure we ll attract traditional investors and use for this traditional marketing.
But as we have new ways, why we should reject it?
Such way of looking for investments it's new step for the field between finance and tehnology - Fintech.
We use the newest finance approach as blockchain and new technology for ZrO2 producing as well.



So everybody can create their own token and kickstart their buiseness!


Title: Re: 🌟🚀[ANN] ZrCoin 📈 The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option 🚀🌟
Post by: ZrCoin on March 23, 2017, 02:21:49 PM
Hi,

Can someone tell me what is the reason behing launching a new coin vs just making a plant with BTC and FIAT?

You want to reach out to crypto world because you are afraid institutional investors will not buy into your plan?

What is different between this and launching a Kebab Shop with it's own crypto?


In general with such approach there is no difference between Kebab shop and plant.

Creating token by such way, we give opportunity for people to participate in building of economics.
For sure we ll attract traditional investors and use for this traditional marketing.
But as we have new ways, why we should reject it?
Such way of looking for investments it's new step for the field between finance and tehnology - Fintech.
We use the newest finance approach as blockchain and new technology for ZrO2 producing as well.



So everybody can create their own token and kickstart their buiseness!

Exactly!


Title: Re: 🌟🚀[ANN] ZrCoin 📈 The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option 🚀🌟
Post by: ZrCoin on March 23, 2017, 02:23:09 PM
Another publication about project
http://www.abitofnews.com/zrcoin-crowdfunds-commodities-option-on-the-blockchain/

Join Bounty, guys!
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1839336.0


Title: Re: 🌟🚀[ANN] ZrCoin 📈 The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option 🚀🌟
Post by: satria33 on March 23, 2017, 02:57:58 PM
Another publication about project
http://www.abitofnews.com/zrcoin-crowdfunds-commodities-option-on-the-blockchain/

Join Bounty, guys!
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1839336.0

waiting social media campaign sir  ;)


Title: Re: 🌟🚀[ANN] ZrCoin 📈 The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option 🚀🌟
Post by: dishku on March 23, 2017, 03:34:07 PM
bounty for german translation? pm me

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1839336.0

Bounty thread is there so you make reserve for you by posting it into this topic.


Title: Re: 🌟🚀[ANN] ZrCoin 📈 The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option 🚀🌟
Post by: JasonXG on March 24, 2017, 12:13:10 AM
Nice project I like how you distributing the currency through social campaigns. The way the avatar and signature is good as well and I'm glad the wait is 30 days and not months I think anything over 30 days is much to long to wait and makes people anxious as to whether they will receive their payout or not.


Title: Re: 🌟🚀[ANN] ZrCoin 📈 The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option 🚀🌟
Post by: martha666 on March 24, 2017, 01:41:43 AM
waiting social media campaign


Title: Re: 🌟🚀[ANN] ZrCoin 📈 The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option 🚀🌟
Post by: bezbezbez on March 24, 2017, 11:58:22 AM
Join our slack

slack.zrcoin.io


Title: Re: 🌟🚀[ANN] ZrCoin 📈 The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option 🚀🌟
Post by: Next_Robby on March 24, 2017, 12:42:15 PM
I support project.

Good luck, guys!

Joined signature campaign and waiting for social media bounty!


Title: Re: 🌟🚀[ANN] ZrCoin 📈 The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option 🚀🌟
Post by: cigulev on March 24, 2017, 01:59:05 PM
It's cool project that provide blockchain to real commodity! Recommend to follow!


Title: Re: 🌟🚀[ANN] ZrCoin 📈 The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option 🚀🌟
Post by: ZrCoin on March 24, 2017, 05:54:58 PM
https://i.imgsafe.org/55b0b0e866.png (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1839336.0)

READ MORE (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1839336.0)


Title: Re: 🌟🚀[ANN] ZrCoin 📈 The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option 🚀🌟
Post by: Kimpoiluiseta on March 24, 2017, 10:56:24 PM
what is type coin Zr coin
iam not found about type coin, use token system smart contract, full pow system , POS system


Title: Re: 🌟🚀[ANN] ZrCoin 📈 The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option 🚀🌟
Post by: wajik-tempe on March 24, 2017, 11:08:34 PM
reserved indonesian Translate Dev ?


Title: Re: 🌟🚀[ANN] ZrCoin 📈 The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option 🚀🌟
Post by: chousbwxx on March 25, 2017, 09:36:38 AM
ICO time? And please show us more information about ICO threshold and maximum cap? Thanks.


Title: Re: 🌟🚀[ANN] ZrCoin 📈 The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option 🚀🌟
Post by: autada on March 25, 2017, 11:27:04 AM
Interesting idea, but how to know the project is legit? Escrow? More ICO details please?


Title: Re: 🌟🚀[ANN] ZrCoin 📈 The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option 🚀🌟
Post by: ZrCoin on March 25, 2017, 12:37:41 PM
ICO time? And please show us more information about ICO threshold and maximum cap? Thanks.

It will be published soon.
ICO will be during April.
Minimum cap 3,5 mln$ - max 7 mln$

For now join Signature and Avatar campaign, guys!
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1839336.0


Title: Re: 🌟🚀[ANN] ZrCoin 📈 The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option 🚀🌟
Post by: hollandvan on March 26, 2017, 11:29:22 AM
ICO time? And please show us more information about ICO threshold and maximum cap? Thanks.

It will be published soon.
ICO will be during April.
Minimum cap 3,5 mln$ - max 7 mln$

For now join Signature and Avatar campaign, guys!
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1839336.0


3.5 million usd is not easy to achieve actually, I think you can't raise so much, but good luck. 


Title: Re: 🌟🚀[ANN] ZrCoin 📈 The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option 🚀🌟
Post by: RoftheN on March 26, 2017, 11:39:13 AM
Why is the minimum so high?  What happens if it doesn't get reached? Then we get our coins back but our coins will lose value?


Title: Re: 🌟🚀[ANN] ZrCoin 📈 The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option 🚀🌟
Post by: autada on March 27, 2017, 12:43:44 AM
Why is the minimum so high?  What happens if it doesn't get reached? Then we get our coins back but our coins will lose value?

I think so, if the minimum threshold is not reached, the project will announce failure and refund investors, also the bounty will be void, makes bounty hunters in vain.


Title: Re: 🌟🚀[ANN] ZrCoin 📈 The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option 🚀🌟
Post by: szachta on March 27, 2017, 12:31:37 PM
Got stake from like facebok page.Simply register in the viral exchange.


Title: Re: 🌟🚀[ANN] ZrCoin 📈 The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option 🚀🌟
Post by: ZrCoin on March 27, 2017, 03:07:30 PM
Got stake from like facebok page.Simply register in the viral exchange.

Yep, we ve started social media campaign.
We ll publish some details now and you can join theviralexchange.com


Title: Re: 🌟🚀[ANN] ZrCoin 📈 The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option 🚀🌟
Post by: ZrCoin on March 27, 2017, 04:13:41 PM
Social media campaign

Budget is 10 500 ZrCoins - it's 0,3% of ICO result.

Social media campaign is managed through service https://theviralexchange.com

You should register and connect your social media pages to this service.

Then you should make some tasks as to make retweet, "like" page on facebook or subscribe Youtube channel.
For this activities you earn ZrCoin tokens.

New tasks will be added every day.
Also we ll publish updates here!

Join!


Title: Re: 🌟🚀[ANN] ZrCoin 📈 The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option 🚀🌟
Post by: Tidex on March 27, 2017, 04:35:47 PM
what is type coin Zr coin
iam not found about type coin, use token system smart contract, full pow system , POS system

It's based on Waves.


Title: Re: 🌟🚀[ANN] ZrCoin 📈 The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option 🚀🌟
Post by: coinporch on March 27, 2017, 11:02:19 PM
Another publication about project
http://www.abitofnews.com/zrcoin-crowdfunds-commodities-option-on-the-blockchain/

Join Bounty, guys!
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1839336.0

ok thanks for your update about bounty camp dev,,
i see your project have a good future ,,
good luck  :)


Title: Re: 🌟🚀[ANN] ZrCoin 📈 The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option 🚀🌟
Post by: MirkoIta on March 27, 2017, 11:04:24 PM
I received some ZrCoin for TheViralExchange social bounties and I got here to this thread. I will keep an eye and hopefully in the end this will be worth something. Good luck with your project.  :)


Title: Re: 🌟🚀[ANN] ZrCoin 📈 The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option 🚀🌟
Post by: chousbwxx on March 28, 2017, 04:07:16 AM
ICO time? And please show us more information about ICO threshold and maximum cap? Thanks.

It will be published soon.
ICO will be during April.
Minimum cap 3,5 mln$ - max 7 mln$

For now join Signature and Avatar campaign, guys!
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1839336.0


3.5 million usd, you are day dreaming, don't learn from Sasha. If 0.5 million will be raised, you can thank God.


Title: Re: 🌟🚀[ANN] ZrCoin 📈 The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option 🚀🌟
Post by: OnTheMoon on March 28, 2017, 07:24:46 AM
Very interesting project, ZrCoin looks fresh among copy-paste coins around. Will look for ico details.


Title: Re: 🌟🚀[ANN] ZrCoin 📈 The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option 🚀🌟
Post by: electronicash on March 28, 2017, 02:17:14 PM
can somebody in the team provide the information when will the ICO end?
i'm going to join the crowdsale later but this is if i find the total amount gathered is alraedy huge that is worth investing. i need to find out the date. if the team can't provide that I guess those investors will forget this shit.

Else this is a SCAM. NO DATE? They will keep collecting money forever!


Title: Re: 🌟🚀[ANN] ZrCoin 📈 The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option 🚀🌟
Post by: Vlegale on March 28, 2017, 03:26:42 PM
can somebody in the team provide the information when will the ICO end?
i'm going to join the crowdsale later but this is if i find the total amount gathered is alraedy huge that is worth investing. i need to find out the date. if the team can't provide that I guess those investors will forget this shit.

Else this is a SCAM. NO DATE? They will keep collecting money forever!
The Ico has not started yet! The dates ( beginning / end) should be soon.


Title: Re: 🌟🚀[ANN] ZrCoin 📈 The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option 🚀🌟
Post by: ZrCoin on March 28, 2017, 03:31:48 PM
can somebody in the team provide the information when will the ICO end?
i'm going to join the crowdsale later but this is if i find the total amount gathered is alraedy huge that is worth investing. i need to find out the date. if the team can't provide that I guess those investors will forget this shit.

Else this is a SCAM. NO DATE? They will keep collecting money forever!

ICO has not been started yet.
It ll be during April.
We have not announced the dates yet, we want to prepare more information and publist it first.
As you and others bitcointalkers have already noted, minimum cap is rather high, so we need to show real efficiency of our project.
So there is no sense to say "scam".

Please, be patient and join Bounty program!
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1839336.0


Title: Re: 🌟🚀[ANN] ZrCoin 📈 The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option 🚀🌟
Post by: ZrCoin on March 28, 2017, 03:32:52 PM
I received some ZrCoin for TheViralExchange social bounties and I got here to this thread. I will keep an eye and hopefully in the end this will be worth something. Good luck with your project.  :)

Thank you for support!

Yes, there are some new tasks in Twitter.


Title: Re: 🌟🚀[ANN] ZrCoin 📈 The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option 🚀🌟
Post by: ranggawulung on March 28, 2017, 03:35:39 PM
I not see about escrow in OP, whether ICO use escrow?


Title: Re: 🌟🚀[ANN] ZrCoin 📈 The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option 🚀🌟
Post by: ZrCoin on March 28, 2017, 04:14:39 PM
I not see about escrow in OP, whether ICO use escrow?

We ve added escrow on website.
You can check
https://zrcoin.io/

Alexander Rubin
Sasha Ivanov
Vladimir Perepelitsyn
George Daneliya


https://i.imgsafe.org/a8bb04e65f.png


Title: Re: 🌟🚀[ANN] ZrCoin 📈 The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option 🚀🌟
Post by: Vlegale on March 28, 2017, 05:29:29 PM
Why is the minimum so high?  What happens if it doesn't get reached? Then we get our coins back but our coins will lose value?
You can use wire , in this case no risk.


Title: Re: 🌟🚀[ANN] ZrCoin 📈 The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option 🚀🌟
Post by: algreen on March 28, 2017, 05:31:03 PM
I not see about escrow in OP, whether ICO use escrow?

We ve added escrow on website.
You can check
https://zrcoin.io/

Alexander Rubin
Sasha Ivanov
Vladimir Perepelitsyn
George Daneliya


https://i.imgsafe.org/a8bb04e65f.png

Good team, escrow, i think i need to buy some zirconium for my home ;D


Title: Re: 🌟🚀[ANN] ZrCoin 📈 The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option 🚀🌟
Post by: qiwoman2 on March 28, 2017, 05:49:09 PM
I just found out about this and joined so I can nibble some in the ICO and will also join the Twitter FEST as well. Would you also like me to do a nice blog review for your TOKEN TOO? I have a coin blog and I love to cover quality tokens and coins if there is a small bounty bag going.  :). I am going to spread the word on Facebook as well as many of my crypto friends are on fb.  :)


Title: Re: 🌟🚀[ANN] ZrCoin 📈 The world's first commodity-backed blockchain option 🚀🌟
Post by: ZrCoin on March 28, 2017, 10:50:33 PM
I just found out about this and joined so I can nibble some in the ICO and will also join the Twitter FEST as well. Would you also like me to do a nice blog review for your TOKEN TOO? I have a coin blog and I love to cover quality tokens and coins if there is a small bounty bag going.  :). I am going to spread the word on Facebook as well as many of my crypto friends are on fb.  :)

Yes!
It would be good.
We did not announce real Bounty for blogs as we have some doubts about it, but we support good bloggers and ready to reward them also.
Can you send a link to your blog in PM or here.