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BTC keeps going down a nasty path without any solutions from the current main devs, (they don't even seem to be trying) fees are getting higher and transactions are never instant ever anymore -- even when paying double or triple the already increasing fees. Backlogs (HOURS of delays for BTC to be sent/confirm) are becoming more common. Is this not a PROBLEM? a ISSUE? a BUG? a ERROR? Since bugs and issues in programming are defined by people such as you and me.. I say YES. (so think about this one before you downtalk BTU for having short term issues)

Once the split happens, you'll then own BTC and BTU -- if BTU does take over (my prediction it will) or if it doesn't, as long as you have access to your own wallet (not storing it on a BTC exchange for example) you'll have coins on BOTH seperate blockchains. So it won't matter if you, me or bob is right about which coin will ultimately take over -- and it is without a doubt that one of the coins must die. (same thing that happened to Ethereum, except in that case the devs actively work on updates while people tried to keep the old Ethereum by creating Ethereum Classic -- and while it lasted awhile -- it has now died -- you cannot stop true progress!)

Read more about how to secure your BTC/BTU when (if?) the split happens here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1644949.0

BTU has had a rocky start, but all great innovations do -- if anything breaks stuff can be rolled back/fixed/etc -- that is part of what makes crypto so powerful -- don't be fooled by anyone trying to downplay BTU for temporary bumps in the way -- people said the same about BTC and the devs did something -- now it seems they don't have heart in the project anymore, so that is why BTU is here -- to return moving forward -- CONSTANTLY -- non stop -- ever evolving and ever changing -- how it should have been already.

Are you ready for transactions to be instant and cheaper again? (BTU)

Good luck and get ready for this ride!  ;D

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A side note:

Since people will need full control over coins, trading will be slowing down -- unless exchanges will keep the BTU coins for you as well. Best bet is to get your own wallet for full control just in case.

Again -- don't be fooled -- this change is real and coming -- people talked me down CONSTANTLY when I said Ethereum would be such a REAL alt coin that major Bitcoin exchanges would accept it. Plenty more laughed at me when I said Eth Classic would die.  ??? (maybe I'm wrong, but I have this same feeling again... I never believed in Litecoin or Ripple BTW and look where they are now..) Bugs and issues are ALWAYS to be expected in new innovations!! ALWAYS!!

THE TIME FOR CHANGE IS NOW!! Bitcoin Unlimited! (BTU)

https://coin.dance/blocks

Even if this happens (what never is going to happen in my opinion) we can easily have a 30% decrease of the price because ot all the BU coins that they will deliver to us. Its like BU (Rogercoin) is paying our trade losses. Seems fair to me. When Rogercoin separates he will go bankrupt in 2 weeks. Maybe he can aply for some job at the KFC by then.

BU is being kept up by just a few people with very deep pockets. Yes, I am referring to both Roger Ver & Jihan Wu. Other than a few shills that they pay there is no one really supporting BU.

I think you should avoid Googling and do a bit more fact checking. The community stands strong with it's support for SegWit. Pools signalling BU support doesn't mean anything. You know what bit of software they use to signal support, right? ;)

Bitcoin's market share is lower than ever but the delusion of small blockers remains strong.

Miners are choosing the solution that is actually available *today* to solve the current serious problem of Bitcoin no longer being usable to make payments.

BU may not be a perfect solution but it's the only solution on the table.

(No, segwit is a can-kick that will gain not more than a few months)

if that happens , i'm applying for KFC LOL , i bought btc for 1287 $ and now its 940$~

dont worry. 1287 will be the new bottom soon.

hope so it reaches way more then that haha , pray pray pray

It is difficult to say. The Ethereum hard forked a few months ago. The combined value is much higher than before.

just recently! now after what 8 months because ETH is returning to main trend with new projects. But directly after the split and for half a year you were in reds with like 50% or less of original value.

Same exact stuff people always say when they are against some other coin, infact the same stuff I heard over, and over, and over, and over again when I talked about Ethereum.

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It is just a dream for all the BTU followers that it will take over BTC,if some nut job with crappy codes thinks that they could manage billions worth of assets then you are in fools paradise .Just spend some money to assign competent level programmers to write the code rather than spending time and money on advertisement.  :P

Well maybe yeah, but what's more important is that we can profit more if this fork happens right? Looking at the bright side it might not be as bad as it is for an investor who already got bitcoin in case BTU took over and the hardfork happens since we will got two coins from segwit blockchain and btu blockchain so let's stop debating about this, its time to stop. I have seen many threads about it already debating the same thing over and over so lets get this over with.

I have couple BTC at Coinbase, what should i do to my coins now? Last time i checked, they don't support both coins once it's split.

Same thing was said about BTC and ETH.  ::)

Just a dream, crap code, will never happen and impossible.. etc..

If you think BTC was (and is?) flawless you are just too behind.  ::) ::)

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So you want a president, remove the 21mm coin hard cap, and now just throw immutability out the window too..

Don't worry if our code is shit, we have enough hash to just rewrite the blockchain..

Might as well grab satoshi's coins while your at it..

WTF over...

The stats do not support the BU is wining narrative.

Source: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1842756.0

Move them to a paper wallet, or at very least a hardware wallet like a Trezor if you trust Trezor or whomever.

If you don't control the private keys, you don't control the coins. Never expose more bitcoins to the internet than you can afford to lose.

Remember that the very first tenet of Bitcoin as stated in Satoshi's white paper is trustlessness.

Guess you didn't/don't believe in Ethereum either.  ::)

Anything else?  ;)

For anything more than a prototype heck no..

Guess you don't believe in immutability and capped inflation..
Have fun with your altcoin..

Transactions will be cheaper again on both chains. since progress will not be blocked anymore. 

Solution will happen no matter what we type here.

I think is never BTU can take over bitcoin
BTU only get to altcoin, can't replace and take over bitcoin

Yes the BTU dream will just be another altcoin.

Bitcoin's integrity as a store-of-value remains sound and intact and this is simply one of many campaigns (over the months and several years) to undermine it.

Bitcoin is unique and beautiful (and attacked to change it) because it is the ONLY decentralized (non-permissioned or permission-less) solution via 1mb block-limit, immutable, secure, well-established crypto-currency in existence.

There is over $15 Billion (usd) from around the world who back this bitcoin network.

Simply put, bitcoin is best chance you have in modern-day finance to stay ahead of rising costs of rent, healthcare, education, etc. (risk-adjusted, it is better than gold, silver, stocks, bonds, oil, etc).

Those who want change can create an alt-coin, or goto litecoin, or goto (permissioned, central-authority by foundation) ethereum, or implement such changes to another any other crypto coin.

Those who wish to undermine bitcoin always say bitcoin is flawed or bugged and something needs to be done about it now! LOL! ...bitcoin is not flawed, nor bugged, and nothing needs to be done. The reality is, bitcoin is more closer to being flawless, with nothing needing to be done to it - it is strong for this reason. And this is why it has been getting stronger with each and every year for the past 8 years. EIGHT YEARS!

For anyone new or simply wanting to expand a bit more about bitcoin, I try to touch on a few of these points (and others) on post titled
"Hacks & puppets & forks - how to destroy bitcoin" https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1834310.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1834310.0)