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I guess I'll be the one to start this thread.

More than 2 weeks ago, Nicksasa, the notroll.in pool operator, introduced a bug on his pool that caused some miners to be double-paid for a short period. Rather than correct the issue by identifying exactly who was double-paid and correcting only the balances that were erroneous, Nicksasa decided to instead simply take a flat ~30% from the overall balance of every single user in his pool, whether they were actually mining during the double-payment period or not.

Obviously, this resulted in quite a few people having ridiculous sums of litecoins essentially stolen from their accounts. There are several people on this board claiming losses into the hundreds of litecoins, when they were either not mining at all during the double-payment period, or only mined a small handful of ltc (one user claimed that he mines 5 ltc/day but Nicksasa took 118 ltc from him, for example). I will link the actual thread below. I have a friend that had just over 10 litecoins taken from her account (weeks worth of mining for her!) when she wasn't mining at all during the double-payment period.

On April 10th, Nicksasa finally responded to users, admitting that he did indeed just take a flat percentage from everyone to cover his own mistake. He said that it was true that some people had more taken from them than was fair. He said that he would be putting up a page on his site so that people could submit claims to be reimbursed:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=92716.msg1797285#msg1797285 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=92716.msg1797285#msg1797285)

All of that was 2 weeks ago. No page has been put up. Nobody (to my knowledge) has been reimbursed. Nicksasa has stopped communicating on this board, although you can check his profile to see that he is still lurking. There are no messages on notroll.in at all about the incident.

Meanwhile, the notroll.in thread continues to fill up with more accusations of shares not being counted, payouts not working, and other shady stuff. It looks like Nicksasa is content to simply let his pool die a slow death while milking it for as much as he can while the people that don't know about this continue to mine there.

Please give this guy a "scammer" tag so at least the people that see his threads will immediately see that he shouldn't be trusted without having to read through 40+ pages of information.

I'm missing around 2 LTC from my account as a result of this.  That may not sound like much but as a smalltime miner with a single gpu that is about a days worth of mining

117 LTC missing on my account.

I lost 3 LTC from my account, that was 25% of my balance on the pool. I was not mining at the pool for a long time, but had a small balance there, the pool operator punished me while I had done nothing wrong, and did not profit from any of his mistakes.

 :o

From my account too, but not 117
I lost 1 to max 3 coins. Dont remember exactly how much

Lost a few hundred LTC. Not sure how much exactly.

I only lost 3 LTC as a result of this, but have been unable to withdraw the 7.24 I have in there since I switched pools. That's only 2 days mining, but they're coins I could really do with having.

I lost about 3 LTC while the site was showing no mining activity, but the backend was accepting shares. I was sleeping at the time, so I saw it kinda late. Had many problems withdrawing, but that finally worked.

It's hard to know how much I lost without knowing my balance before the double payment period which was 14 hours for me as I was on stratum, but best guess is around 5 LTC mark.

I also lost about 2 LTC. Actually had no idea what happened, until now, but moved mining activity to another pool when this happened.

While I don't use this pool at all, I do support a scammer tag for Nicksasa.  Simply reading through his replys here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=172667.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=172667.0) is enough to see that he did this willingly and with no remorse.

i also lost some coins...around 15

Yeah, I lost coins as well. I also support a scammer tag under his alias.

I noticed my NoTroll account haircut on April 9th, 2013, shortly after it took place. I have screenshots that I can provide, if desired, of my account balance when the LTC were first noticed missing as well as final account balance/withdraws. The reason I noticed right away was because I had been mining <1 week, NoTroll was my first pool, and I had made no withdraws from my NoTroll account. I had earned 18.57 LTC at a hair over 3 LTC/day using stratum, but my account balance suddenly dropped to 13.94. According to Niksasa, stratum miners were paid double for 14 hours - a claim for which evidence has yet to be provided. (14/24)*3 (i.e., percentage of daily hours overpaid * daily pay rate) = 1.75. That is approximately how many LTC should have been deducted from my account, not 4.63. 4.63/18.57 = .249 or ~25%, which was apparently applied to accounts across the board. I really don't care about a few LTC, but some people, who trusted this guy by leaving large sums of LTC in their notroll accounts, lost big. I actually continued to mine on NoTroll, dumb, I know, giving Nick the benefit of the doubt and a chance to make things right. It wasn't until I read his rude and ridiculous replies on this forum that I decided to GTFO as quick as possible, which actually took longer than expected due to an empty hot wallet. Nick knows and admits that miners had LTC unfairly taken (stolen) from them, yet he unapologetically takes the position that such is his right as the pool owner, and he has made no effort to provide means of recourse to those affected. I think a scammer tag is, at the very least, owed by us to his future potential miners.

I don't know exactly how much was taken but it's ~10 coins at that time

His pool is still a backup (removed now) and it saw some mining yesterday and the calculator on his page shows this:

Your Balance: 0.00334033 LTC
Total Earned: 139.99605871 LTC
24h Earnings: 0.73396351 LTC

i can't take out mine LTC from his pool (1xx LTC )

Can't even take out my 0.199 which was left.  ::)


Edit: clicked a few dozen times. Cleared my balance. Bye bye, notroll.in.

how do u do that? I used macro trigger  ( update balance -> F5 => Home => withdraw ) but i can't take it out from that pool. He kept mine LTC a week

+1

I as well had LTC taken from my account back when I mined on this pool.
Is anything ever going to be done about this by the moderator of this board, ie. adding a scammer tag?  It was first started a week ago, and as Nicksasa still hasn't logged in since April 18th, I'd say it's a fair guess he has "skipped town" so to speak.

Over 3 weeks now, nothing changed, still missing 117LTC. No answer from Nicksasa

I don't really expect Nicksasa to ever come back or make good on the litecoins that he stole from people.

I would however expect the mods of this board to designate him a scammer, so at least newcomers will potentially see it and know to avoid him and his pool. That is what this board is here for right? Mods?

No scammer tag yet? bump

Mods have given up with scammer tags.

The guy who set up the CHN P2Pool with a 100% fee got one a few days ago, so must still happen.

It's nice to see that the previous 2500MH in his pool is now down to 660MH

It's also good that the wiki page for litecoin mining pools has removed him.

It's dissapointing a known thief is still raking in $300 a day and no tag.

aaaand its bumped

So are we ever going to get a response to this?  Nicksasa hasn't logged in for almost a month now and there are still people that never got paid back the 25% haircut he gave everyone.  Not to mention draining the hotwallet and making it extremely hard for new miners to get coins out.  One of the pool operators from one of the new alt-coins got a scammer tag within the day that he was caught trying to swindle people, yet here we are a month later and nothing on this one.

They have got -scam alert- on the thread advertising his pool, There is not much more they can do that will help you guys out. Like what they mark his account with Scammer? so what he goes and makes another.... there is not much more point in any more action here...

We all lost out some more than others but hey we live and learn, Withdraw a little more frequently Keep and the majority of your coins in your encrypted wallet on your PC and you may not loose as much if something like this happens again.

 Same here lost quite a few LTCs those last weeks with this scampool, also have the logout problem

 pleaaase SCAM TAG

I am very disappointed by Nicksasa's actions.  :(
I gave him the benefit of the doubt, but he did not live up to his responsibilities.

+1

Agreed... Can we get spammer tag on Nicksasa please.

He is not yet labeled as scammer but, please correct me if I'm wrong, he is clearly one. It's over 3 months we're sure about it, he even admitted he stole some money.


-------POLL----------


If you were Nicksasa how much would you pay to administrators of bitcointalk to have the pool thread still open (in order to get new people to steal money from) and no scammer label ?

A  10-100 LTC
B 100-500 LTC
C 500-1000 LTC
D over 1000 LTC

I'm sure admins wouldn't accept a bribe and they're strongly investigating the facts to be really sure what's happening with all missing LTC, it's just a fun poll !

Thanks for your partecipation to the poll !

Bump!

The Nickasa scammer thread got deleted?  As I cannot find it