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Title: [April iamnotback] Bitcoin will be $800 in one month!
Post by: Proof of Bullshit on May 11, 2017, 09:24:49 AM
TLDR: People giving advice on social media regarding your investment are not concerned about you, but how they can fill their own pockets more while using you. Stop listening to them.

This acts as a warning to all who read posts after posts of bullshit on social media full of FUD and false analysis. Specially from those who keep making new alt accounts to support their own bullshit and pretend it is real users calling them good speculators.
Expect to see at least some of them in this topic.

This guy that I chose as my first PoB™ mark is the worse case scenario of all the bullshit you will ever see. But there are a lot more of these around. Literary everywhere.

Sell all crypto-currency to fiat IMMEDIATELY. BTC will dive -30%. Altcoins will decline even more. SegWit and scaling has been defeated on both Bitcoin and also Litecoin. Also there are macroeconomics things going on which will also hit gold and every asset except USD. Store your money in USD or altcoin USDT
The price should peak again at approximately $1208 (Bitstamp) in 3 days and 6 hours from now. After that up to a day of diminishing pattern clustered in tight range around that price, then after that should begin the precipitous decline similar to last month.

And here are some numbers based on the date:
Highest price of bitfinex in April: $1244.7 ---(-30%)---> $871.29
Current price: $1214

Highest price of Bitstamp in April: $1229 ---(-30%)--> $860.30
Current price: $1188

One month after and Current prices are:
Bitfinex $1889
Bitstamp $1855

I repeat again that this is not about speculating, this is about giving a warning to all possible new members who may want to start trading, investing in this market.
Don't take what you read seriously and run away if you saw a lot of throwaway accounts are defending the person saying it.

He {iamnotback} has several accounts all banned for ban evasion. It seems that the underlying offense which caused him to initially get into trouble (and often the thing which causes his alts to get noticed) is excessive multi-posting.


Title: Re: [April iamnotback] Bitcoin will be $800 in one month!
Post by: Hunyadi on May 11, 2017, 10:27:21 AM
Good topic! Keep it going.

Still, everyone makes wrong calls form time to time.


Title: Re: [April iamnotback] Bitcoin will be $800 in one month!
Post by: leowonderful on May 11, 2017, 10:30:27 AM
I just keep in the back of my mind that Kwuckduck said the exact same things as you did back when we were at ~300, and now look where we are at. Nobody's perfect though, so you could indeed be right. I'll be checking back here to see if you were right or not.


Title: Re: [April iamnotback] Bitcoin will be $800 in one month!
Post by: Windpower on May 11, 2017, 10:35:12 AM
Good topic! Keep it going.

Still, everyone makes wrong calls form time to time.
I would have to agree with you there. These are all speculations and in the end, you have to make a decision for yourself. Are you going to trust someone else or trust yourself?


Title: Re: [April iamnotback] Bitcoin will be $800 in one month!
Post by: kehtolo on May 11, 2017, 10:36:01 AM
Yeah but kwuckduck is always, always wrong.. don't listen to anybody!!!!!!!



Title: Re: [April iamnotback] Bitcoin will be $800 in one month!
Post by: NeuroticFish on May 11, 2017, 10:37:40 AM
I repeat again that this is not about speculating, this is about giving a warning to all possible new members who may want to start trading, investing in this market.
Don't take what you read seriously and run away if you saw a lot of throwaway accounts are defending the person saying it.

The main 2 rules of trading/speculation are:
* never invest more than you afford to lose.
* never get trading advice from random unknown people over the internet.


Iamnotback combines smart things with not so smart ones and, like everybody, tries to get some more money. Sometimes he get it right, sometimes not; I don't know if he wants to delude people into bad trading so I will not give an opinion in that direction. His ban evading history is, on other hand, from bad to worse...

Kwuckduck is funny imo, on every big rise of Bitcoin he starts warning about "the end is near". Of course that Bitcoin may have downtrends too sooner or later, but lately after each Kwuckduck thread Bitcoin rose :)


Title: Re: [April iamnotback] Bitcoin will be $800 in one month!
Post by: mikenz on May 11, 2017, 10:57:24 AM
yes, tar and feather him. He made a wrong prediction. in THIS forum! that NEVER happened here before!!  ::) ::)

he was right with LTC though.


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Yeah but kwuckduck is always, always wrong.. don't listen to anybody!!!!!!!


I always listen to quackduck the wise. If you do exactly the opposite of what he says, you always make good money.


Title: Re: [April iamnotback] Bitcoin will be $800 in one month!
Post by: CoinCube on May 11, 2017, 11:23:21 AM
I have probably spent more time publically arguing with iamnotback on various issues then anyone else on this forum.

He gives predictions and arguments based on what he actually believes and likely lost out on substantial gains by following his own advice on this one.

He is intelligent, eccentric, and insightful. He is sometimes brilliant and sometimes stubbornly and mulishly wrong.

He got this call wrong. He has gotten others correct in the past but if he shared a prediction he genuinely believed it. Let's not attack people for incorrectly predicting the future.

The key here is to realize that there is no substitute for individual critical thinking. Relying on others to think for you or blindly accepting their instructions is a recipe for poverty.


Title: Re: [April iamnotback] Bitcoin will be $800 in one month!
Post by: davis196 on May 11, 2017, 11:39:34 AM
Yeah but kwuckduck is always, always wrong.. don't listen to anybody!!!!!!!



It`s pointless to argue with users who want to create panic selling for their own benefit.
It`s pontless to make threads saying "Bitcoin price will be XXX USD next month".
Is kwuckduck Satoshi? ;D   


Title: Re: [April iamnotback] Bitcoin will be $800 in one month!
Post by: Slark on May 11, 2017, 11:53:23 AM
I don't believe that everyone who is speculating, giving advises on social media is trying to confuse or purposely mislead you.
It's rather caused by cryptocurrency market. Is so complex and when you link human psychology, mob mentality and fear of losing money to it,
then we can have truly explosive reaction. That is the reason we have some many FUD and drama threads, crying about failed scaling and so much more.

One good advice: imagine situation when BTC will crash to $0, will you be still able to live and fiction properly? If yes, then don't sell your BTC.


Title: Re: [April iamnotback] Bitcoin will be $800 in one month!
Post by: moooonu on May 11, 2017, 12:01:42 PM
Yeah but kwuckduck is always, always wrong.. don't listen to anybody!!!!!!!



It`s pointless to argue with users who want to create panic selling for their own benefit.
It`s pontless to make threads saying "Bitcoin price will be XXX USD next month".
Is kwuckduck Satoshi? ;D   

Those people who do so are doing this just to make profit from it. They are not here to help others(except a few). Most of these speculation threads are just to mislead newbies and other audiences. I advice to read the market carefully than reading such posts.


Title: Re: [April iamnotback] Bitcoin will be $800 in one month!
Post by: dinofelis on May 11, 2017, 02:51:09 PM
One good advice: imagine situation when BTC will crash to $0, will you be still able to live and fiction properly? If yes, then don't sell your BTC.

Hahaha, the logical consequence of that is that the only way to ever get something out of bitcoin, is when you over-invested and were forced to sell !  Otherwise, you will only sell bitcoin when it is $0 !


Title: Re: [April iamnotback] Bitcoin will be $800 in one month!
Post by: Proof of Bullshit on May 11, 2017, 03:29:35 PM
To be clear, this topic is not about someone making 1 wrong speculation, obviously nobody can predict the future and there are a lot of unpredictable things that can happen. Although he wasn't wrong once, and certainly wasn't right a lot. He kept changing direction based on whichever he wished the market to go.

This was his plan, (like many others) he thought if bitcoin goes down then ETH and LTC which he obviously had invested in, heavily I should add, will go up so he started his campaign against bitcoin.

If you could find his deleted post history from April 11 and 12 you can exactly see what I mean when I say "changing directions". It was ETH up, I sold LTC went in ETH, an hour later delete and I sold ETH entered LTC, an hour later delete and repeat.

I don't believe that everyone who is speculating, giving advises on social media is trying to confuse or purposely mislead you.

There may be someone out there who is giving advice out of the kindness of his heart but when money is involved, it is a dog eat dog world my friend.


Title: Re: [April iamnotback] Bitcoin will be $800 in one month!
Post by: btcbug on May 11, 2017, 03:49:06 PM
I have probably spent more time publically arguing with iamnotback on various issues then anyone else on this forum.

He gives predictions and arguments based on what he actually believes and likely lost out on substantial gains by following his own advice on this one.

He is intelligent, eccentric, and insightful. He is sometimes brilliant and sometimes stubbornly and mulishly wrong.

He got this call wrong. He has gotten others correct in the past but if he shared a prediction he genuinely believed it. Let's not attack people for incorrectly predicting the future.

The key here is to realize that there is no substitute for individual critical thinking. Relying on others to think for you or blindly accepting their instructions is a recipe for poverty.



Yep I agree, original post pretty much reads as, "I got burned following somebody's commentary, now I've got nothing better to do than claim they had bad intentions".

This was his plan...

I'll agree the guy made some good calls and some bad calls. The difference between @iamnotback and people that accuse him of malicious behavior, is that he says things and then changes his mind and may or may not edit or delete his prior thoughts. His train of thought may be hard to follow. He's just sharing his thoughts. Unfortunately for morons like the OP, they think it's trading advice and fail to consider everything else he's written and fail to consider what others have also written.

You'd think this idiot was subscribing to a paid service and now he's warning others of a scam or fraud. LMFAO.


Title: Re: [April iamnotback] Bitcoin will be $800 in one month!
Post by: Proof of Bullshit on May 11, 2017, 04:50:01 PM
Yep I agree, original post pretty much reads as, "I got burned following somebody's commentary, now I've got nothing better to do than claim they had bad intentions".
Have I been burnt following some asshole? Yes.
Was it this idiot's? No.
Was it recently? No, years ago. Now I see past the bullshit and FUD.

I've already explained, you failed to read.

He's just sharing his thoughts.
This:
https://archive.is/dweLI
https://archive.is/HkddQ
and hundreds of other (copy paste) posts is not called "sharing his thoughts" it is exactly what I explained and you failed to read.

... morons like the OP, ... this idiot ...
Somebody's butt is hurting ;D


Title: Re: [April iamnotback] Bitcoin will be $800 in one month!
Post by: Meuh6879 on May 11, 2017, 05:11:40 PM
why would you purge an 2000 USD asset ... ? http://imagizer.imageshack.us/a/img922/702/O3SL4j.gif


Title: Re: [April iamnotback] Bitcoin will be $800 in one month!
Post by: ridery99 on May 11, 2017, 05:25:28 PM
Iamnotback is very funny and entertaining person who lives in his own ego-driven reality. He is not harmful at all, just don't take him seriously  :)


Title: Re: [April iamnotback] Bitcoin will be $800 in one month!
Post by: york780 on May 11, 2017, 06:10:25 PM
Just watch YORK's topic and you will be fine tho. Others failed. Fact. I am enjoying my gains.


Title: Re: [April iamnotback] Bitcoin will be $800 in one month!
Post by: ekoice on May 12, 2017, 11:23:46 AM
Yes new traders should not follow the market blindly.They should do the analysis of their own and then decide whether to enter or exit the market.Today in social media,most of people want to force their ideas over other people by creating many alt accounts.So be careful before taking decisions.


Title: Re: [April iamnotback] Bitcoin will be $800 in one month!
Post by: craked5 on May 12, 2017, 02:04:52 PM
Iamnotblack is the exact definition of an egoist asshole...
NEVER listen to him. Not on economical matters, not on social subjects...
He's an horrible person


Title: Re: [April iamnotback] Bitcoin will be $800 in one month!
Post by: iqlimasyadiqa on May 12, 2017, 02:09:14 PM
Yes new traders should not follow the market blindly.They should do the analysis of their own and then decide whether to enter or exit the market.Today in social media,most of people want to force their ideas over other people by creating many alt accounts.So be careful before taking decisions.
There must be accurate correct data. If not then this can produce a chaos. With accurate information we can all produce precise and thorough analysis.


Title: Re: [April iamnotback] Bitcoin will be $800 in one month!
Post by: elite3000 on May 12, 2017, 02:23:35 PM
probably he missed a certain law approved in April and that could expand BTC's user base immensely in the upcoming years

probably thought was just some 1st April joke


Title: Re: [April iamnotback] Bitcoin will be $800 in one month!
Post by: BTCLovingDude on May 12, 2017, 02:51:57 PM
probably he missed a certain law approved in April and that could expand BTC's user base immensely in the upcoming years

probably thought was just some 1st April joke

then it must have been more like the April first every day and everywhere for him to make the joke all over the forum and each day ;D


Title: Re: [April iamnotback] Bitcoin will be $800 in one month!
Post by: Qartada on May 12, 2017, 03:27:58 PM

The key here is to realize that there is no substitute for individual critical thinking. Relying on others to think for you or blindly accepting their instructions is a recipe for poverty.

The key here is to realise that everyone is stupid, including you.  If you can't trust anyone else at all to be right no matter what their experience is, you should never trust yourself either.


Title: Re: [April iamnotback] Bitcoin will be $800 in one month!
Post by: CoinCube on May 12, 2017, 03:45:18 PM

The key here is to realize that there is no substitute for individual critical thinking. Relying on others to think for you or blindly accepting their instructions is a recipe for poverty.

The key here is to realise that everyone is stupid, including you.  If you can't trust anyone else at all to be right no matter what their experience is, you should never trust yourself either.

Agreed, which raises the question if we cannot trust ourselves or others where can we place our trust?

Health and Religion (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1373864.0)


Title: Re: [April iamnotback] Bitcoin will be $800 in one month!
Post by: vapourminer on May 12, 2017, 03:55:12 PM
at least iamnotback bases his predictions on fairly well though out reasons which he documents.

can he be wrong? sure. he seems more than often right or at least in the ballpark. i have made out decently by following many his predictions.

that being said no one should blindly follow another. due diligence and use your head, not your greed.


Title: Re: [April iamnotback] Bitcoin will be $800 in one month!
Post by: aso118 on May 13, 2017, 03:58:13 PM
probably he missed a certain law approved in April and that could expand BTC's user base immensely in the upcoming years

probably thought was just some 1st April joke

Bitcoin has a mind of its own. Even if laws do get approved, the price rise is based on pure speculation.
Speculation that the user base could expand. Speculation that the block size debate will be settled.


Title: Re: [April iamnotback] Bitcoin will be $800 in one month!
Post by: KennyR on May 13, 2017, 06:01:07 PM
probably he missed a certain law approved in April and that could expand BTC's user base immensely in the upcoming years

probably thought was just some 1st April joke

Bitcoin has a mind of its own. Even if laws do get approved, the price rise is based on pure speculation.
Speculation that the user base could expand. Speculation that the block size debate will be settled.
As quoted bitcoin is partially an speculative currency. So speculation clearly makes a pure change in the growth stats of the entire network. I believe blocksize debate will continue for a long without getting any conclusion. This too is an reason for the speculative approach.