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Profile link:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=78788

Situation:
RichG claims to be selling $8,000 in Amazon gift cards for as low as 60%.  Myself and others users asked him a simple question of how he obtained the codes he was selling.  He responded with avoidance.  

Thread in question: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1927366.0

RichG proceeded to leave completely false retaliatory feedback because I asked him a very damning question. I of course responded with negative trust.

Upon further research.. RichG only shows activity in 05/2017, before that there was ZERO activity since 2014-2015.

Who is the best mod/admin to contact to take care of this?

I'd like to see @nachius provide proof of "continual bashing" for this rating:
I think that it is likely that this feedback is not appropriate/very biased. However, I have not looked into the post history of all the actors and will therefore wait before I make a conclusion.

The trust system, therefore also the trust ratings, are not moderated.

Not in any particular order:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1797643.msg17918456#msg17918456
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1790356.msg17864630#msg17864630
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1927366.msg19129441#msg19129441
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1790356.msg17852824#msg17852824
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1811291.msg18087830#msg18087830

If a user does not post picture proof with receipts, it is carded? Terrible logic. I left you a negative trust because you are delusional, you thought I was inactive since 2015, when I have had PM's as recent as earlier this year. Your assumptions earned you the negative trust.

This thread is the main reason I left it. I told you, a few weeks without any assumptions and you will get it removed. The more you prove to me I am right, the less I will be inclined to remove it. Your assumption of me being another user furthers my proof.

I find it comical you put "fraud" in the title. If you could control your anger and take a second to calm down and see your mistakes, you would not have to deal with your orange trust. If this is not untrustworthy behavior, a more veteran member please point this out for me and I will gladly remove the rating.

LOL you leave me a fake negative trust and get screwed over. Good! You're a fuckin cunt full of assumptions ruining other's Amazon businesses to promote your own.

I'm not nachius but I just earned hella respect. It's fucking cunts like you that deserve red trust

Still acceptable.

Criticism/questioning. Nothing wrong here.

He did *overdo* it here.

This is still acceptable.

This does not fit the criteria.

That is normally how it goes regarding amazon cards, at least from what I've seen. If users are offering extremely high discounts, then the likelihood of them being acquired via illicit means grows exponentially. Wanting to verify the source if one is interested in buying is entirelly normal.

Have you signed a message with an old Bitcoin address by any chance? That would put that question to rest.

I am not exactly convinced that this rating is appropriate, but I am not fully opposed to it either. I'd like someone else to comment regarding this. However, the OPs accusation is nonsense as it does not contain any proof of said accusations.

This does not make you look good, nor does it help with anything.

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This could have been avoided.

"This user is peddling Amazon gift cards that were obtained with stolen credit cards."

Prove to me they ARE obtained with stolen credit cards and I will gladly message all default trust members asking them to give me negative feedback. But if you can't, then I'll message default trust members to leave you more negative feedback, which is what you deserve.

Deal? If no deal, remove the damn feedback off my profile, and remove your shit droppings on my thread.

Except they probably won't do it, but who knows with this forum.  Generally people selling gift cards at huge discounts are scammers, and it's safe to make the assumption that they are--there have been so many examples of this here, that it's hard to argue otherwise.  What business model would allow someone to sell gift cards at 50% or less of their value?  That's a question I've never seen answered by sellers.

And you got asked about the source of your gift cards, and your response basically was "prove they're carded".  That's not a good answer.

Personally I find his accusation full of holes but it does raises a question on how you were acquiring them exactly.

Acting out aggressively to the accusation like this won't do good. It is better to prove how you are getting them exactly what I and others are looking into this.

Proving yourself out will eventually clear out questions from those hesitating to deal out with you. Also by selling amazon GC's or other egift cards , seller should always let buyer aware of source with proof.

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Pharmacist makes it simple and to the point.

No, I said "refer to my sales thread in my signature". I originally gave him a response, these are from rewards points as I've stated on this forum multiple times. Digital codes with no receipt.

How can you make a claim without proof? How tf are these carded?

I have been buying any selling gift cards for years.  I have over 1600 trades between Paxful and Bitify.  I was also made a moderator on Bitify because of my experience/knowledge of gift cards.

As for those links..

#1) Guy was selling $2000 Amazon from hacked turbo tax accounts. 
#2) Guy was selling $500 denominational Amazon gift cards that were obtained from ransomware/IRS scams. - BULK $500s with CASH receipts for $330ea..
#3) RichG
#4) Same damn guy as #2
#5) Guy copied and pasted my selling thread exactly and then claimed he had $15,000 in gift cards

Any rational person would believe fraud is a foot in those threads, even without any experience.  Ignorance is not an excuse.


I never once promoted my business.  I am a buyer and seller of gift cards.  I looked at your thread and it raised many red flags.  I only left negative trust after you left false trust.


Not once did you say "rewards".  I searched the entire thread.  If they came from rewards, that would be very simple to provide screenshots.  but, 8k is still a lot, are we talking bing/swagbuck rewards or credit/airline/hotel rewards?  ..because the latter are frequently hacked..

If you can provide proof of that your cards are legit, I would gladly apologize and remove the negative trust.  After you did of course :)

OK, I'll buy that.  Note that I didn't leave you a red trust anyway, because I don't have any proof either way.  I'll also note that you're not selling your GCs for 50% and less, which is what I'd originally said.  But you have to understand that this area is rife with scammers and scam accusations get slung around like whiffleball bats.  The only thing it looks like you can do is prove your cards were from rewards programs.  It's plausible, but you're in a poor position right now.

He never said rewards until now.  I did a control find on both of his threads.

I also apologize for throwing around the word "carded", I sometimes use it interchangeably with fraudulent.  The cards can easily have been carded or from hacked reward accounts.  I just choose to use "carded" because he left me negative feedback with "carded" in it.

If these truly did come from rewards..
#1) Why didn't he just say so and provide proof?  It would be so easy to take some screenshots..
#2) If 8k came from credit, airline, or hotel rewards, that opens up the hacked reward accounts area..haha

I would have never left him negative trust, if he had not done so to me first, however, I had to do my due diligence and warn others.  Amazon gift cards are risky and can work for awhile before being withheld or causing other issues.

Absence of proof is not proof of absence. Why push the onus on a customer to prove that cards are legitimate when you're offering the product? That doesn't make sense.

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Also where are these reward points from?

Does he really needs to justify to anyone raising questions ? I think not.The seller,the buyer and the involved members who are directly or indirectly part of it deserve an explanation but not random members who would jump into an argument asking for proofs when those proofs wouldn't do them any good.Even if he successes to explain the sources of it,you will still try to dig deeper to know the legitimate root of the source.

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I'm not stating the accusation is wrong or the seller is correct but the justifications as requested by you should be asked by the concerned members as they agreed on a trade.Additionally,what would you do with that information anyway ?

I'm 99% sure that the cards are either carded or obtained illegally. No way is he going to sell them for 65% if he had the physical receipts for these cards, he can sell them on Paxful for at least 75 or 80%, maybe even 85% on a good day with a trusted member.

When you see someone using only reversible methods, it's not a good sign.

Also I really wonder where he gets so much. I mean yeah, working for amazon might earn you amazon gift cards but not in such a big amount. If you are correct about him having $8000 in amazon gift cards that's definitely a fraudulent dealing.


Might not be carded but also can be hacked, social engineered, bought with stolen paypal accounts a wide variety of things. I think he has sufficient proof to be honest but that's just my opinion.

Great resolution...

Now you brought in more imbecile's like Yuuto making numbers up like "99% carded".

Just heard that you may have scammed three guys in the bismuth slack. I hope you do pay them the money u owe them.

Anyone can say what they want as per the freedom of speech (as long as it does not break the forum rules). Furthermore, they are also allowed to comment in this particular thread. This kind of name-calling, i.e. insulting does not help you. If I was one of the people who has given you positive trust, I would revoke it by replacing it with a neutral just based off of your comments in here.

Who, the OP or RichG? They should open a scam accusation, follow the proper format and provide adequate proof.

RichG. Ya they will open a scam accusation

RichG

He said he will pay tonight , that's why I didn't open a scam accusation yet. Said to give him some time but after checking with other people it seems it will be in vain.


richg
6:36 PM
this is shitty from my side
6:36
because I'm probably going to come back to a scam accusation when i really just need to run for a couple hours
6:36
I'll be back by tonight I promise
6:36
if I'm not you can open one


Anyway will post a scam accusation and give negative tomorrow my time.

Thanks

Unfortunately, I let RichG smooth talk me into sending him 1643 Bismuth, which he wanted to buy for BTC. After some excuses that he couldn't properly sync, he is now ignoring me. I will take back my accusations if I get my BTC as initially agreed or receive the Bismuth back to my address again. b0518cd63935f081d8bc0271c9d861f51d636ed78ca43ba91d0f0233 is his Bismuth address, four other guys got scammed by much larger amounts. You can query this address on bismuth.online

Hi just found secound account RichardG
He just sent me test BIS from account b0518cd63935f081d8bc0271c9d861f51d636ed78ca43ba91d0f0233
check that topic  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1898984.msg20176591#msg20176591

Is your only evidence of a connection using that address, the statement from this user?

This, as is, may be inadequate for others. Primedigger needs to clarify the situation a bit, i.e. which account(s) has he exactly dealt with.

Yeah he just admit that this is his address b0518cd63935f081d8bc0271c9d861f51d636ed78ca43ba91d0f0233  
My addres is 84464c4d90dddd237c432237c70fb47d75f5ae317c5248fb453d34ed
You can check blockexplorer http://bismuth.hashpool.eu:8080/ledgerquery
Blockchain doesn't lie
Here is psc from my p.m.'s with him
https://i.imgur.com/b5IMt2p.png

The problem was I just wanted to do at first few smaler trades below cost sr.member account

I will sent back the funds to primedigger while he send me his address

I understand that part, and that is not the problem. The problem is proving that the address is owned by/was used by RichG.