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Title: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: Storx on May 31, 2017, 05:45:56 AM
Hello All,

I am fresh to the whole alt coin thing, i did bitcoin mining years ago back in 2014 with Antminer S5's for a while tell those devices died and stop functioning. I got out of the mining because they never really lasted long enough to pay themselves off. Since then i have pushed into investing in multiple other ways like real estate and twitch streaming and have been going through a bit of stagnant profit, so i started looking into new ways to invest and i somehow ended back in crypto-currencies.. because of all the issues i had previously with my ASIC miners, i decided to look into GPU/CPU mining because the equipment is more easily accessible from trusted places with warranties and such. So i decided to use my NEW Gaming rig i recently built to mine when i am not using it for Twitch streaming of gaming and i setup with NiceHash Miner v1.7.5.12, because while googling mining with the GTX1080ti, most of the results i came across mentioned NiceHash as a decent miner, but many of those posting trashed talked saying AMD is the king over Nvidia in mining..

So my question is what are other options for me to check into using my Nvidia gear i ALREADY own to mine with to basically learn how all of this stuff works tell i decide to invest into more dedicated mining resources...

My Rig:
ASUS ROG Crosshair VI Hero
Ryzen 1700 @ 4.0Ghz
2 x MSI Armor GTX 1080ti's (not overclocked)
EVGA SuperNOVA 1000W G3
Phobya 1080mm watercooling external mounted CPU/GPU loop


Current NiceHash numbers over last hour of mining
1288Sol/s on Equihash for a return of $12.96/day
Lyra2REv2 it runs at 121MH/s for a return of $16.02/day

One thing i have noticed since running the NiceHash is that it tends to favor the Equihash a lot more, not sure if there is a way to force it to mine the other instead... $16/day seems far more profit than $13/day.. not sure why it decides Equihash is more profitable... if the program is suppose to switch between the most profitable returns at the time...


 


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: Vaccinus on May 31, 2017, 06:22:25 AM
equihash is not more profitable, skein is , the 1080ti really shine on skein, and i noticed lately that it shine on JHA algorithm, but it's used only by the new launched sweep coin, amd is good now because ETH increased a lot with the last pump and with dual mining you can earn much with a cheap gpu


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: VyprBTC on May 31, 2017, 06:29:49 AM
If you are earning $16 on Lyra2REv2 go with that - MY Skein numbers for yesterday was $14 for 2 1080TI's so you're earning $60 more a month on Lyra2 than Skein.

You can disable it from switching by going into settings then just uncheck the algo's you don't want it to run; in your case everything except Lyra2


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: dt8666 on May 31, 2017, 06:32:55 AM
My Rig:
ASUS ROG Crosshair VI Hero
Ryzen 1700 @ 4.0Ghz
2 x MSI Armor GTX 1080ti's (not overclocked)
EVGA SuperNOVA 1000W G3
Phobya 1080mm watercooling external mounted CPU/GPU loop


Current NiceHash numbers over last hour of mining
1288Sol/s on Equihash for a return of $12.96/day
Lyra2REv2 it runs at 121MH/s for a return of $16.02/day

One thing i have noticed since running the NiceHash is that it tends to favor the Equihash a lot more, not sure if there is a way to force it to mine the other instead... $16/day seems far more profit than $13/day.. not sure why it decides Equihash is more profitable... if the program is suppose to switch between the most profitable returns at the time...


 

1288 sol/s??? how did you get that? my Zotac Amp Extreme 1080ti only shows with Nicehash with 685 range and with EBW is 705 range.

Amazing!


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: Storx on May 31, 2017, 06:42:52 AM
equihash is not more profitable, skein is , the 1080ti really shine on skein, and i noticed lately that it shine on JHA algorithm, but it's used only by the new launched sweep coin, amd is good now because ETH increased a lot with the last pump and with dual mining you can earn much with a cheap gpu

Have any pointers on accessing the ability to mine Skein? i am not coming up with much in my searches...


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: Storx on May 31, 2017, 06:50:37 AM
My Rig:
ASUS ROG Crosshair VI Hero
Ryzen 1700 @ 4.0Ghz
2 x MSI Armor GTX 1080ti's (not overclocked)
EVGA SuperNOVA 1000W G3
Phobya 1080mm watercooling external mounted CPU/GPU loop


Current NiceHash numbers over last hour of mining
1288Sol/s on Equihash for a return of $12.96/day
Lyra2REv2 it runs at 121MH/s for a return of $16.02/day

One thing i have noticed since running the NiceHash is that it tends to favor the Equihash a lot more, not sure if there is a way to force it to mine the other instead... $16/day seems far more profit than $13/day.. not sure why it decides Equihash is more profitable... if the program is suppose to switch between the most profitable returns at the time...


 

1288 sol/s??? how did you get that? my Zotac Amp Extreme 1080ti only shows with Nicehash with 685 range and with EBW is 705 range.

Amazing!

To be completely honest with you i have no clue, im just telling you the numbers the program states.. in regards to your numbers.. i have 2 x 1080ti, so if i double your 685 number.. your actually performing more than me.. you would get roughly 1370.... and i have no clue how to mine EBW on this software. to give you that number


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: dt8666 on May 31, 2017, 07:39:42 AM
Ok now it is clear. Its the sol/s with 2 cards.

Yes the miner sol/s may nit 100% same as NH website actual. It varies.


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: Storx on May 31, 2017, 03:57:25 PM
Ok now it is clear. Its the sol/s with 2 cards.

Yes the miner sol/s may nit 100% same as NH website actual. It varies.


What are your temps on your GPU, this is the first time i have seen my water temps above 40c on my gaming rig, lastnight i left it on to mine the entire time i slept and its currently mining and my temps on my rig have stabled out at 41c with the house a/c set at 25c.

Also have you found any better mining routes for the GTX1080ti? like is their better coin to mine from your experience?


If you are earning $16 on Lyra2REv2 go with that - MY Skein numbers for yesterday was $14 for 2 1080TI's so you're earning $60 more a month on Lyra2 than Skein.

You can disable it from switching by going into settings then just uncheck the algo's you don't want it to run; in your case everything except Lyra2

Hey bud, could you throw me some info on how to mine for Skein, i would like to look into it and see how my actual setup deals with it.. after mining with nicehash for 12+ hours now with it set on the auto change settings, my 12+ hr profitability according to them has leveled out at $14.03/day, my profit levels dip to about half rate at random times i noticed throughout 12hrs of mining..

Also im curious if Skein could be added to the Nicehash program, in the setup instructions it mentions if the Recommended (Stable) list is unable to mine any coins, the miner will default to any custom list or custom list are able to be created for customized mining. If this is true, maybe the Skein can just be added to the rotation to be mined when profitable.. have to read more into this.



Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: philipma1957 on May 31, 2017, 04:04:06 PM
Ok now it is clear. Its the sol/s with 2 cards.

Yes the miner sol/s may nit 100% same as NH website actual. It varies.


What are your temps on your GPU, this is the first time i have seen my water temps above 40c on my gaming rig, lastnight i left it on to mine the entire time i slept and its currently mining and my temps on my rig have stabled out at 41c with the house a/c set at 25c.

Also have you found any better mining routes for the GTX1080ti? like is their better coin to mine from your experience?


If you are earning $16 on Lyra2REv2 go with that - MY Skein numbers for yesterday was $14 for 2 1080TI's so you're earning $60 more a month on Lyra2 than Skein.

You can disable it from switching by going into settings then just uncheck the algo's you don't want it to run; in your case everything except Lyra2

Hey bud, could you throw me some info on how to mine for Skein, i would like to look into it and see how my actual setup deals with it.. after mining with nicehash for 12+ hours now with it set on the auto change settings, my 12+ hr profitability according to them has leveled out at $14.03/day, my profit levels dip to about half rate at random times i noticed throughout 12hrs of mining..

Also im curious if Skein could be added to the Nicehash program, in the setup instructions it mentions if the Recommended (Stable) list is unable to mine any coins, the miner will default to any custom list or custom list are able to be created for customized mining. If this is true, maybe the Skein can just be added to the rotation to be mined when profitable.. have to read more into this.



use zpool there is a thread around

here are 11 1080 ti's and 2 1070's

http://zpool.ca/?address=1JdC6Xg3ajT3rge3FgPNSYYFpmf53Vbtje


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: VyprBTC on May 31, 2017, 04:06:56 PM
Ok now it is clear. Its the sol/s with 2 cards.

Yes the miner sol/s may nit 100% same as NH website actual. It varies.


What are your temps on your GPU, this is the first time i have seen my water temps above 40c on my gaming rig, lastnight i left it on to mine the entire time i slept and its currently mining and my temps on my rig have stabled out at 41c with the house a/c set at 25c.

Also have you found any better mining routes for the GTX1080ti? like is their better coin to mine from your experience?


If you are earning $16 on Lyra2REv2 go with that - MY Skein numbers for yesterday was $14 for 2 1080TI's so you're earning $60 more a month on Lyra2 than Skein.

You can disable it from switching by going into settings then just uncheck the algo's you don't want it to run; in your case everything except Lyra2

Hey bud, could you throw me some info on how to mine for Skein, i would like to look into it and see how my actual setup deals with it.. after mining with nicehash for 12+ hours now with it set on the auto change settings, my 12+ hr profitability according to them has leveled out at $14.03/day, my profit levels dip to about half rate at random times i noticed throughout 12hrs of mining..

Also im curious if Skein could be added to the Nicehash program, in the setup instructions it mentions if the Recommended (Stable) list is unable to mine any coins, the miner will default to any custom list or custom list are able to be created for customized mining. If this is true, maybe the Skein can just be added to the rotation to be mined when profitable.. have to read more into this.



You made more  than me mining on Skein then. My last 24hr avg is at $12.46 for 2 1080Ti's @ 900MH/S


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: johnnymark_ on May 31, 2017, 04:36:43 PM
Is GTX 1060 3GB a good option? Which brand?


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: dt8666 on May 31, 2017, 04:41:30 PM
Is GTX 1060 3GB a good option? Which brand?

Maybe some used rx 470 or 480 has better value if you hv space for more unit.


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: johnnymark_ on May 31, 2017, 04:43:45 PM
Is GTX 1060 3GB a good option? Which brand?

Maybe some used rx 470 or 480 has better value if you hv space for more unit.


Only problem is there none available.


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: Megaquake on May 31, 2017, 05:06:00 PM
Is GTX 1060 3GB a good option? Which brand?

Maybe some used rx 470 or 480 has better value if you hv space for more unit.


Only problem is there none available.

Good cards I use might as well sped $30 more for 6gb memory https://www.amazon.com/ZOTAC-GeForce-ZT-P10600B-10M-Compact-Graphics/dp/B01I5O5AP2


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: johnnymark_ on May 31, 2017, 05:14:20 PM
Is GTX 1060 3GB a good option? Which brand?

Maybe some used rx 470 or 480 has better value if you hv space for more unit.


Only problem is there none available.

Good cards I use might as well sped $30 more for 6gb memory https://www.amazon.com/ZOTAC-GeForce-ZT-P10600B-10M-Compact-Graphics/dp/B01I5O5AP2

Nice. Can it be any brand? Would you buy any of this?

- Asus GeForce GTX 1060 Turbo 6GB
- Asus GeForce GTX 1060 Dual OC 6GB
- Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1060 WF OC 6GB
- Gigabyte Aorus GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 9Gbps


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: Megaquake on May 31, 2017, 05:19:03 PM
Is GTX 1060 3GB a good option? Which brand?

Maybe some used rx 470 or 480 has better value if you hv space for more unit.


Only problem is there none available.

Good cards I use might as well sped $30 more for 6gb memory https://www.amazon.com/ZOTAC-GeForce-ZT-P10600B-10M-Compact-Graphics/dp/B01I5O5AP2

Nice. Can it be any brand? Would you buy any of this?

- Asus GeForce GTX 1060 Turbo 6GB
- Asus GeForce GTX 1060 Dual OC 6GB
- Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1060 WF OC 6GB
- Gigabyte Aorus GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 9Gbps

Yes sure these cards mining performance is near equivalent to the GTX 980


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: Storx on May 31, 2017, 05:26:06 PM
Ok now it is clear. Its the sol/s with 2 cards.

Yes the miner sol/s may nit 100% same as NH website actual. It varies.


What are your temps on your GPU, this is the first time i have seen my water temps above 40c on my gaming rig, lastnight i left it on to mine the entire time i slept and its currently mining and my temps on my rig have stabled out at 41c with the house a/c set at 25c.

Also have you found any better mining routes for the GTX1080ti? like is their better coin to mine from your experience?


If you are earning $16 on Lyra2REv2 go with that - MY Skein numbers for yesterday was $14 for 2 1080TI's so you're earning $60 more a month on Lyra2 than Skein.

You can disable it from switching by going into settings then just uncheck the algo's you don't want it to run; in your case everything except Lyra2

Hey bud, could you throw me some info on how to mine for Skein, i would like to look into it and see how my actual setup deals with it.. after mining with nicehash for 12+ hours now with it set on the auto change settings, my 12+ hr profitability according to them has leveled out at $14.03/day, my profit levels dip to about half rate at random times i noticed throughout 12hrs of mining..

Also im curious if Skein could be added to the Nicehash program, in the setup instructions it mentions if the Recommended (Stable) list is unable to mine any coins, the miner will default to any custom list or custom list are able to be created for customized mining. If this is true, maybe the Skein can just be added to the rotation to be mined when profitable.. have to read more into this.



You made more  than me mining on Skein then. My last 24hr avg is at $12.46 for 2 1080Ti's @ 900MH/S

Could you PM me some info on how you got Skein working, it may not be the most profitable way to go about it now, but i want to learn how to mine all the currencies, so in the future i can decide the best route based on the GPU i go with, which will be based on which route is best to mine basically..

I honestly think that the watercooling is really helping with 1080ti's, because i helped one of my good friends out on setting up his 1 solo MSI Armor 1080ti on Nicehash today after showing him the profits i so called made so far.. his is on OEM fans and Nicehash is only running at 571SOL/s @ 84c temps on his rig.. which is only like 80ish% of the rate im getting per card. We bought our GPU's together i bought them with bitcoin on Newegg and he just payed me cash value in return for his.


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: JaredKaragen on May 31, 2017, 05:26:47 PM
OP, check the batch link in my sig.  Lots of info and resources to get you going with lots of options.

Theres also a link to the original batch thread with lots more info and stuffs.

If you need any assistance past that getting started, just drop me a PM.   Should be relatively painless though.

I used to be on Lyra2v2 24/7... but the block difficulty on MONA and Vert... were just too damned long, and payouts were pretty inconsistent.  I felt the "bad days" a lot more than I do on skein.


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: Storx on May 31, 2017, 05:32:54 PM
Is GTX 1060 3GB a good option? Which brand?

Honestly based on my lack of knowledge and just going off experience im seeing.. i would have to say no... because i have my pair of 1080ti's going on Nicehash and according to MSI Afterburner im using between 10-11GB of RAM on the GPU's with nothing else running on the PC... so going with something like 3GB, im assuming it would run super hot on VRAM, because its having to use 100% of the 3GB and constantly shuffling things around due to lack of space or it may just throttle your return on mining, because you dont have enough VRAM to utilize mining at 100% rate fully.. Honest i dont know for sure, but just telling you my results based on my GTX1080ti's


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: Storx on May 31, 2017, 05:35:38 PM
OP, check the batch link in my sig.  Lots of info and resources to get you going with lots of options.

Theres also a link to the original batch thread with lots more info and stuffs.

If you need any assistance past that getting started, just drop me a PM.   Should be relatively painless though.

I used to be on Lyra2v2 24/7... but the block difficulty on MONA and Vert... were just too damned long, and payouts were pretty inconsistent.  I felt the "bad days" a lot more than I do on skein.

That is the parts im wanting to learn, ill look into your link...

Also, Im a littler confused on the Lyra2V2, it seems to estimate the HIGHEST returns for me when its actually mining it, but when i check my nicehash status, it shows a unpaid balance on the right side as if i mined the coin properly, but its the ONLY coin that does not list an accepted speed on the left, its just all 000000000's


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: JaredKaragen on May 31, 2017, 05:43:24 PM
yeah, the NH miner is useful for the laymen, but not the best IMHO.

Basically, just grab the ccmineralexis78.exe file (as mentioned in my link), copy the batch file and paste it into a new .bat file with ccminer... and just update your BTC payout address and ID tag at the top of the batch.

If you don't want to run the manual batch, or multi-algo batch, you can simply use a string like this:

skienonly.bat
Code:
:start
ccminerAlexis78.exe -a skein -o stratum+tcp://skein.mine.zpool.ca:4933 -u 1PHSDYvVp6HpqtuUPocK41DrdeHbbezaeP -p i7-920-GPU,c=BTC,skein,stats
goto start

change "i7-920-GPU" to whatever you want your miner ID to be seen as (shows up on right pane in wallet page on zpool.ca) for easy ID of the miner connected (if you have multiple), and of course change the BTC address unless you feel like donating hash to my account ;)

I really love the manual batch though.   If another algo's coin value moons, i just log into my old website, and change the algo name in the text file.  No need to visit all my miners and update manually.

You can use the manual batch as-is with my URL;  as long as you don't mind being on-board with whatever algo I am mining currently ;)


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: dt8666 on May 31, 2017, 10:55:20 PM
yeah, the NH miner is useful for the laymen, but not the best IMHO.

Basically, just grab the ccmineralexis78.exe file (as mentioned in my link), copy the batch file and paste it into a new .bat file with ccminer... and just update your BTC payout address and ID tag at the top of the batch.

If you don't want to run the manual batch, or multi-algo batch, you can simply use a string like this:

skienonly.bat
Code:
:start
ccminerAlexis78.exe -a skein -o stratum+tcp://skein.mine.zpool.ca:4933 -u 1PHSDYvVp6HpqtuUPocK41DrdeHbbezaeP -p i7-920-GPU,c=BTC,skein,stats
goto start

change "i7-920-GPU" to whatever you want your miner ID to be seen as (shows up on right pane in wallet page on zpool.ca) for easy ID of the miner connected (if you have multiple), and of course change the BTC address unless you feel like donating hash to my account ;)

I really love the manual batch though.   If another algo's coin value moons, i just log into my old website, and change the algo name in the text file.  No need to visit all my miners and update manually.

You can use the manual batch as-is with my URL;  as long as you don't mind being on-board with whatever algo I am mining currently ;)

What is your experience on zpool? So many are commenting it"stealing"?
Do we have other pool that do good on skien for those that only have BTC wallet?


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: zer0k on June 01, 2017, 02:21:25 AM
Profits are constantly changing, so whenever you look them up on whattomine.com etc. you need to remember that is just the current profitability.

It's always just a snapshot, and can change by the minute, so an autoswitcher like nicehash may look like it's jumping to something less profitable but it's using it's own logic to determine whats best


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: jwarren81 on June 01, 2017, 04:22:18 AM
I've been using zpool for months with consistent daily payments.  It's very reliable.

Most of the instances I've seen of people complaining about them, simply didn't understand how the pool works.  Ask questions if you are unsure how things are working.

MiningPoolHub also has skein and can auto exchange to BTC.  It works differently than zpool since you point to your account and then configure things on their website to enable auto exchange and set your wallets.


What is your experience on zpool? So many are commenting it"stealing"?
Do we have other pool that do good on skien for those that only have BTC wallet?


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: VoskCoin on June 01, 2017, 04:32:47 AM
Anyone here using this card http://www.ebay.com/itm/GIGABYTE-GeForce-GTX-1080-Ti-DirectX-12-GV-N108TGAMING-OC-11GD-11GB-352-Bit-GDDR-/292077280960?hash=item4401299ec0:g:LcEAAOSww3tY5O0d

if so whats your setup & settings?


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: dt8666 on June 01, 2017, 05:26:20 AM
I've been using zpool for months with consistent daily payments.  It's very reliable.

Most of the instances I've seen of people complaining about them, simply didn't understand how the pool works.  Ask questions if you are unsure how things are working.

MiningPoolHub also has skein and can auto exchange to BTC.  It works differently than zpool since you point to your account and then configure things on their website to enable auto exchange and set your wallets.


What is your experience on zpool? So many are commenting it"stealing"?
Do we have other pool that do good on skien for those that only have BTC wallet?

Actually I tried zpool and from the minded Bytecoin number and I comparing to the BTC value with Poloniex, I can see that it has 30% less. Not sure where are this 30% goes. Also have to pay for transfer fee too.

Really not sure. Might try out minipoolhub.

I am sure many experience minor can share what should be so we can cut short the learning. lol


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: jwarren81 on June 01, 2017, 05:39:49 AM
I don't know about any of that . . . I just know I've averaged $100 a day for the last 9 days, from two rigs on zpool.  I can't really argue with it.  ;D

I've been using zpool for months with consistent daily payments.  It's very reliable.

Most of the instances I've seen of people complaining about them, simply didn't understand how the pool works.  Ask questions if you are unsure how things are working.

MiningPoolHub also has skein and can auto exchange to BTC.  It works differently than zpool since you point to your account and then configure things on their website to enable auto exchange and set your wallets.


What is your experience on zpool? So many are commenting it"stealing"?
Do we have other pool that do good on skien for those that only have BTC wallet?

Actually I tried zpool and from the minded Bytecoin number and I comparing to the BTC value with Poloniex, I can see that it has 30% less. Not sure where are this 30% goes. Also have to pay for transfer fee too.

Really not sure. Might try out minipoolhub.

I am sure many experience minor can share what should be so we can cut short the learning. lol


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: Storx on June 01, 2017, 06:46:34 AM
I don't know about any of that . . . I just know I've averaged $100 a day for the last 9 days, from two rigs on zpool.  I can't really argue with it.  ;D

I've been using zpool for months with consistent daily payments.  It's very reliable.

Most of the instances I've seen of people complaining about them, simply didn't understand how the pool works.  Ask questions if you are unsure how things are working.

MiningPoolHub also has skein and can auto exchange to BTC.  It works differently than zpool since you point to your account and then configure things on their website to enable auto exchange and set your wallets.


What is your experience on zpool? So many are commenting it"stealing"?
Do we have other pool that do good on skien for those that only have BTC wallet?

Actually I tried zpool and from the minded Bytecoin number and I comparing to the BTC value with Poloniex, I can see that it has 30% less. Not sure where are this 30% goes. Also have to pay for transfer fee too.

Really not sure. Might try out minipoolhub.

I am sure many experience minor can share what should be so we can cut short the learning. lol

LOL, i just literally spent the last hour and half playing with setting up Zcash on Zpool, I finally got it running after not really knowing what i was doing at first.. but the rate was just god awful, it was saying i was only working at 90Sols/S


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: jwarren81 on June 01, 2017, 06:59:44 AM
Something's wrong with your setup then.  What are you running?  Cards?  Miner?  Overclock?

How long did you let the miner run?  It takes time for the hashrate stats on the pool to show full speed.  But if your miner is showing accepted shares and full speed, then the pool will reflect that after sometime.  Its basing the hashrate on submitted shares so it takes time to ramp up.

I get 420 sol/s with EWBF miner on GTX 1070's.  -25% TDP is my only adjustment on the cards.

Fired up my EWBF just to show:
http://i.imgur.com/GX7qsTm.png?1

From my zpool:
http://i.imgur.com/CpXEkyZ.png


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: JaredKaragen on June 01, 2017, 07:27:18 AM

What is your experience on zpool? So many are commenting it"stealing"?
Do we have other pool that do good on skien for those that only have BTC wallet?


Actually I tried zpool and from the minded Bytecoin number and I comparing to the BTC value with Poloniex, I can see that it has 30% less. Not sure where are this 30% goes. Also have to pay for transfer fee too.

Really not sure. Might try out minipoolhub.

I am sure many experience minor can share what should be so we can cut short the learning. lol

I have no issues with zpool really.  Just the typical random DDOS issues, or the recent payout bug that happened (I was personally un-effected, but everyone was taken care of).  Id say no more than any other pool would have.

remember;  the pool code itself picks which exchange to transfer and sell to... we can't make any assumptions where the coins were sold....

... you said you had to pay for a transfer fee as well;  zpool covers the TX fees, so I am unsure what you are getting at by this ....


Look at the spread of the coins mined.  often it's within the 10-30% range on alts... (I watch and make short plays on the market everyday now).  when you are shown a block reward;  I believe it shows the lowest market "sell" rate;  and (I believe) when it receives the funds back from the exchange, the pool corrects the estimates based upon what people actually paid for the coins.... but frankly, I don't know how often it does it, or under what conditions.  Grain of salt.  IT will take some serious researching of the pool code to fully understand how it works.

Holding the 24 hour graph of the DGB price from yobit over my pending balance graph;  you can see the same humps bumps and dips in the same time frames (almost) between the two graphs....   this is more than coincidence.  I saw it heavily when DGB went from 700 to ~400 a few days back.

Now, I bet this "estimation error" people see would not be near as prominent if the pool calculated everything based on the highest buy order, instead of the lowest sell order.... but again;  the market is in constant flux.


Also;  every time I do some spot calculations on 24 hour profitability based on my hashrate;  it tends to be pretty close to what I earned in the previous day....

What is your payout coin?


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: Storx on June 01, 2017, 07:42:21 AM
Something's wrong with your setup then.  What are you running?  Cards?  Miner?  Overclock?

How long did you let the miner run?  It takes time for the hashrate stats on the pool to show full speed.  But if your miner is showing accepted shares and full speed, then the pool will reflect that after sometime.  Its basing the hashrate on submitted shares so it takes time to ramp up.

I get 420 sol/s with EWBF miner on GTX 1070's.  -25% TDP is my only adjustment on the cards.

Fired up my EWBF just to show:
http://i.imgur.com/GX7qsTm.png?1

From my zpool:
http://i.imgur.com/CpXEkyZ.png


I didnt try the EWBF miner, i tried the Nicehash nheqminer v. 0.3a, which was listed under benchmarks as the miners for multiple people on the 1080ti


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: dt8666 on June 01, 2017, 08:46:59 AM
EWBF is running for my Zotac Amp Extreme at 705-720 sol/s range.

So far i tried are point to hashnest. The reported rate fluctuate from 500+ to 700 range.

But if i run using Hashnest GUI, miner shows 685 sol/s. Website report fluctuate.


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: chrysophylax on June 01, 2017, 08:52:59 AM
interesting topic ...

we are rebuilding our test machine - 5 x gigabyte aorus 1080ti extreme - for full production in the coming days ...

we have been waiting on these high end cards for a long time - have tested - and they are beasts in the mining division ...

this machine is the blueprint for the others that will follow ...

#crysx


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: JaredKaragen on June 01, 2017, 09:14:13 AM
EWBF is running for my Zotac Amp Extreme at 705-720 sol/s range.

So far i tried are point to hashnest. The reported rate fluctuate from 500+ to 700 range.

But if i run using Hashnest GUI, miner shows 685 sol/s. Website report fluctuate.

It fluctuates because it's not dependent on a value calculated by the app, instead it's calculated by the share percentage/difficulty (miner reported values can easily be spoofed, etc).....  This in itself can add more error to the mix for sure.


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: QuintLeo on June 01, 2017, 11:00:36 AM

2 x MSI Armor GTX 1080ti's (not overclocked)

1288Sol/s on Equihash for a return of $12.96/day


 

1288 sol/s??? how did you get that? my Zotac Amp Extreme 1080ti only shows with Nicehash with 685 range and with EBW is 705 range.

Amazing!

 Did you miss the "2x" part?





Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: Storx on June 01, 2017, 08:15:21 PM
EWBF is running for my Zotac Amp Extreme at 705-720 sol/s range.

So far i tried are point to hashnest. The reported rate fluctuate from 500+ to 700 range.

But if i run using Hashnest GUI, miner shows 685 sol/s. Website report fluctuate.

Which mining pool are you running for that.. ? im still learning how to use the mining software outside of Nicehash.. its just so simple and has been stupid reliable so far..


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: VyprBTC on June 01, 2017, 08:27:13 PM
interesting topic ...

we are rebuilding our test machine - 5 x gigabyte aorus 1080ti extreme - for full production in the coming days ...

we have been waiting on these high end cards for a long time - have tested - and they are beasts in the mining division ...

this machine is the blueprint for the others that will follow ...

#crysx

What risers are you using for the Aorus beasts? Also curious what PSU you're going to go with, I'm in the process of reconfig. as well.

Link please? :) Thanks.


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: scryed on June 01, 2017, 11:53:52 PM
yeah, the NH miner is useful for the laymen, but not the best IMHO.

Basically, just grab the ccmineralexis78.exe file (as mentioned in my link), copy the batch file and paste it into a new .bat file with ccminer... and just update your BTC payout address and ID tag at the top of the batch.

If you don't want to run the manual batch, or multi-algo batch, you can simply use a string like this:

skienonly.bat
Code:
:start
ccminerAlexis78.exe -a skein -o stratum+tcp://skein.mine.zpool.ca:4933 -u 1PHSDYvVp6HpqtuUPocK41DrdeHbbezaeP -p i7-920-GPU,c=BTC,skein,stats
goto start

change "i7-920-GPU" to whatever you want your miner ID to be seen as (shows up on right pane in wallet page on zpool.ca) for easy ID of the miner connected (if you have multiple), and of course change the BTC address unless you feel like donating hash to my account ;)

I really love the manual batch though.   If another algo's coin value moons, i just log into my old website, and change the algo name in the text file.  No need to visit all my miners and update manually.

You can use the manual batch as-is with my URL;  as long as you don't mind being on-board with whatever algo I am mining currently ;)

Jared,

I'm having problems with the Alexis78 miner. Have you had this problem where the command prompt would lock up, gpu power would go down to 0% and it would stop mining until you hit the "enter" key? It happens every 30-60mins and it's really preventing me from using zpool.
Am I overclocking too much? The screenshot attached has it locked up and I didn't hit the "enter" key until 2 minutes later.

This is when I'm only mining skein with your .bat file.


http://imgur.com/jSX3MvH
http://imgur.com/EpdS7Ux




Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: dt8666 on June 02, 2017, 12:50:48 AM
EWBF is running for my Zotac Amp Extreme at 705-720 sol/s range.

So far i tried are point to hashnest. The reported rate fluctuate from 500+ to 700 range.

But if i run using Hashnest GUI, miner shows 685 sol/s. Website report fluctuate.

Which mining pool are you running for that.. ? im still learning how to use the mining software outside of Nicehash.. its just so simple and has been stupid reliable so far..

Apology,, typo error.. its Nicehash that I point it to. ops!

Now I trying with Skein and miningpoolhub. using 1080 and 970.


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: JaredKaragen on June 02, 2017, 02:20:37 AM
yeah, the NH miner is useful for the laymen, but not the best IMHO.

Basically, just grab the ccmineralexis78.exe file (as mentioned in my link), copy the batch file and paste it into a new .bat file with ccminer... and just update your BTC payout address and ID tag at the top of the batch.

If you don't want to run the manual batch, or multi-algo batch, you can simply use a string like this:

skienonly.bat
Code:
:start
ccminerAlexis78.exe -a skein -o stratum+tcp://skein.mine.zpool.ca:4933 -u 1PHSDYvVp6HpqtuUPocK41DrdeHbbezaeP -p i7-920-GPU,c=BTC,skein,stats
goto start

change "i7-920-GPU" to whatever you want your miner ID to be seen as (shows up on right pane in wallet page on zpool.ca) for easy ID of the miner connected (if you have multiple), and of course change the BTC address unless you feel like donating hash to my account ;)

I really love the manual batch though.   If another algo's coin value moons, i just log into my old website, and change the algo name in the text file.  No need to visit all my miners and update manually.

You can use the manual batch as-is with my URL;  as long as you don't mind being on-board with whatever algo I am mining currently ;)

Jared,

I'm having problems with the Alexis78 miner. Have you had this problem where the command prompt would lock up, gpu power would go down to 0% and it would stop mining until you hit the "enter" key? It happens every 30-60mins and it's really preventing me from using zpool.
Am I overclocking too much? The screenshot attached has it locked up and I didn't hit the "enter" key until 2 minutes later.

This is when I'm only mining skein with your .bat file.


http://imgur.com/jSX3MvH
http://imgur.com/EpdS7Ux




Nope, first I've heard of that.

Try stock gpu settings.... there should be no reason for any input once the miner app is launched.


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: Storx on June 02, 2017, 03:18:32 AM
Just out of curiosity, what wallet are all of yall going with...? i went with JAXX Wallet after reading about so many 6 rig miners on it.. just not sure if its the best, since it has no built in way to exchange to USD... thinking of maybe switching before i get to much funds built into it.


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: Storx on June 02, 2017, 05:53:57 AM
OK, so tonight i tried out some other miners just playing around with different miners and i noticed using the later version of Claymores dual miner v9.4, after setting it up it would only run at 62-63Mh/s, but one thing i immediately noticed is the GPU runs way more efficient or something.., because instead of running at 95-97% of TDP on Nicehash, the GPU's were running between 59-62% of TDP. The reason i am not stating watts, because honestly i dont know the exact number under MSI Afterburner, Hardware Monitor, GPU-z i only get % of TDP as a measurement of power being consumed.

So going off the logic of my GPU's being 250watts TDP,

Nicehash is running around 470watts estimate for the $15.86/day today averaging at 45c
Claymores Dual Miner on ETH mining was running around 255watts estimate for an estimation of $10.72/day and waterloop dropped to 38c

So it seems the Claymore miner is running at about half power, but under MSI afterburner the GPU% is 99 on both cards.. little confused on this...

I also tried Awesome Miner, which was messaged to me as being better than Nicehash, i could not get that thing to function correctly at all, the miner windows would pop up and close constantly, kept restarting the miners... then when it would stay running the rates i was getting was half of Nicehash, dont think it was properly functioning for my GPU.. it kept giving me a "Minimal Memory Error" on most miners before they would crash...



Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: Storx on June 02, 2017, 06:24:53 AM
Ok now it is clear. Its the sol/s with 2 cards.

Yes the miner sol/s may nit 100% same as NH website actual. It varies.


What are your temps on your GPU, this is the first time i have seen my water temps above 40c on my gaming rig, lastnight i left it on to mine the entire time i slept and its currently mining and my temps on my rig have stabled out at 41c with the house a/c set at 25c.

Also have you found any better mining routes for the GTX1080ti? like is their better coin to mine from your experience?


If you are earning $16 on Lyra2REv2 go with that - MY Skein numbers for yesterday was $14 for 2 1080TI's so you're earning $60 more a month on Lyra2 than Skein.

You can disable it from switching by going into settings then just uncheck the algo's you don't want it to run; in your case everything except Lyra2

Hey bud, could you throw me some info on how to mine for Skein, i would like to look into it and see how my actual setup deals with it.. after mining with nicehash for 12+ hours now with it set on the auto change settings, my 12+ hr profitability according to them has leveled out at $14.03/day, my profit levels dip to about half rate at random times i noticed throughout 12hrs of mining..

Also im curious if Skein could be added to the Nicehash program, in the setup instructions it mentions if the Recommended (Stable) list is unable to mine any coins, the miner will default to any custom list or custom list are able to be created for customized mining. If this is true, maybe the Skein can just be added to the rotation to be mined when profitable.. have to read more into this.



use zpool there is a thread around

here are 11 1080 ti's and 2 1070's

http://zpool.ca/?address=1JdC6Xg3ajT3rge3FgPNSYYFpmf53Vbtje

I finally got Skein working lastnight... i was overthinking a lot of this.. i didnt realize i just had to open a notepad and insert the miner.bat info into the file and save it as a batch file...
I am not sure if i am running the most optimal Miner, i downloaded ccminer/8.08-KlausT and added the miner batch from another comment in here and started it.. its running and has been for about 30 mins.. the rates in the miner and the rates on the website are very different... going to leave the Skein on tonight just to test things out.. its saying on the website im getting 1868Mh/s with a rejection rate of 1.6%

If this is truly correct and im understanding the profit numbers with the 2% fee added in, im currently running at $29-30/day......seems way higher than Nicehash
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4205/34658400010_4387be9818_o_d.png


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: JaredKaragen on June 02, 2017, 09:48:13 AM
yep.... as long as DGB maintains... it should stay pretty consistent right now.

in my second link deep, it has the instructions on making a batch file manually (I think) but yeah... sometimes the simplest problems are the biggest speed bumps when starting off.

Id highly suggest the ccmineralexis78 build for mining skien... I got a 30% hashrate increase on my 1070's, and the 1080 got 15-20% I believe...  upgrading from ccminer 1.7.

A compiled version is available to download from the nemosminer megaupload link... same forum as this thread.  You can download the .exe file separate and save it where your current miner app and batch are.

I'll be making a huge update to my batch file soon;  combining all the features in all of my batch files into one.  You'll set it once via the command line, and it will remember your last used selection until the next time you launch the batch with a new config setting....  Plus more...

The website rates will fluctuate;  but when you look at the graph over time you can see the hashrate deltas out just about where its supposed to be....   the pool calculates your share% based on how many shares of what difficulty it submits.   If you get a string of high value shares;  your hashrate shows high, etc.... just varies with "luck" as its called.   If they based it off what the miner app reported;  people would submit low diff shares only at a reduced power rate, and code in whatever hashrate they want the pool to see....   the calculated by shares method is a very predictable and pretty accurate way to do it fairly.


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: Vaccinus on June 02, 2017, 10:35:15 AM
guys don't use zpool is stealing your earning somethign like 20-30%, you are losing big profit there, use yiimp and do convertion yourself on bittrex, i know many liek the auto conversion, but it's not worth all these loss if you are lazy


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: JaredKaragen on June 02, 2017, 10:56:32 AM
guys don't use zpool is stealing your earning somethign like 20-30%, you are losing big profit there, use yiimp and do convertion yourself on bittrex, i know many liek the auto conversion, but it's not worth all these loss if you are lazy

you keep saying this with no actual evidence past trying to base your assumptions off things you don't understand.... or as far as I can tell that you even care to even attempt at this point.

Talk to many users here that have tried using the pool under my recommendations.

They report more profitability.

stop the FUD, unless you have some real evidence that can prove your accusations (such as the offending pool code, etc).

My spot checks out within a margin of error.  Plus I watch the markets, and see many correlations when accounting for that and things like overall share percentage, exchange fees, etc etc etc.


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: YIz on June 02, 2017, 11:04:51 AM
guys don't use zpool is stealing your earning somethign like 20-30%, you are losing big profit there, use yiimp and do convertion yourself on bittrex, i know many liek the auto conversion, but it's not worth all these loss if you are lazy

I'm not sure what are you talking about. they seem like a decent mining pool.


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: sidog on June 02, 2017, 11:40:32 AM
yeah, the NH miner is useful for the laymen, but not the best IMHO.

Basically, just grab the ccmineralexis78.exe file (as mentioned in my link), copy the batch file and paste it into a new .bat file with ccminer... and just update your BTC payout address and ID tag at the top of the batch.



I must be blind, but I can't find to life of me find the link to the alexxis78 build of ccminer. 


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: kapsel on June 02, 2017, 11:40:53 AM
yep.... as long as DGB maintains... it should stay pretty consistent right now.

in my second link deep, it has the instructions on making a batch file manually (I think) but yeah... sometimes the simplest problems are the biggest speed bumps when starting off.

Id highly suggest the ccmineralexis78 build for mining skien... I got a 30% hashrate increase on my 1070's, and the 1080 got 15-20% I believe...  upgrading from ccminer 1.7.

A compiled version is available to download from the nemosminer megaupload link... same forum as this thread.  You can download the .exe file separate and save it where your current miner app and batch are.

I'll be making a huge update to my batch file soon;  combining all the features in all of my batch files into one.  You'll set it once via the command line, and it will remember your last used selection until the next time you launch the batch with a new config setting....  Plus more...

The website rates will fluctuate;  but when you look at the graph over time you can see the hashrate deltas out just about where its supposed to be....   the pool calculates your share% based on how many shares of what difficulty it submits.   If you get a string of high value shares;  your hashrate shows high, etc.... just varies with "luck" as its called.   If they based it off what the miner app reported;  people would submit low diff shares only at a reduced power rate, and code in whatever hashrate they want the pool to see....   the calculated by shares method is a very predictable and pretty accurate way to do it fairly.

Thanks for pointing towards alexis miner in nemosminer batch, it seems to work the best out of any ccminer I have tried so far. Currently doing about 330 mh/s with 60% power limit(95w at wall) on 1060 6GB, with no power saving i reach a peak of 385 mh/s at 145w from wall(system with 1 card)


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: Storx on June 02, 2017, 12:52:51 PM
yep.... as long as DGB maintains... it should stay pretty consistent right now.

in my second link deep, it has the instructions on making a batch file manually (I think) but yeah... sometimes the simplest problems are the biggest speed bumps when starting off.

Id highly suggest the ccmineralexis78 build for mining skien... I got a 30% hashrate increase on my 1070's, and the 1080 got 15-20% I believe...  upgrading from ccminer 1.7.

A compiled version is available to download from the nemosminer megaupload link... same forum as this thread.  You can download the .exe file separate and save it where your current miner app and batch are.

I'll be making a huge update to my batch file soon;  combining all the features in all of my batch files into one.  You'll set it once via the command line, and it will remember your last used selection until the next time you launch the batch with a new config setting....  Plus more...

The website rates will fluctuate;  but when you look at the graph over time you can see the hashrate deltas out just about where its supposed to be....   the pool calculates your share% based on how many shares of what difficulty it submits.   If you get a string of high value shares;  your hashrate shows high, etc.... just varies with "luck" as its called.   If they based it off what the miner app reported;  people would submit low diff shares only at a reduced power rate, and code in whatever hashrate they want the pool to see....   the calculated by shares method is a very predictable and pretty accurate way to do it fairly.

Anyway you could point me to the ccmineralexis78, im not really seeing it under the link you have..?

Im curious if there is a way to set it up to mine the most profitable one like it was on Nicehash miner does to include Skein... i really like that feature....

In regards to the numbers im seeing on Zpool on skein, im not sure if there is a delay in the reporting of how much im earning.. but based on the BTC it says i have earned so far and the time i have spent doing it.. the numbers just dont seem to add up compared to the Skein Profit Calculator even if i put slightly lower MH/s numbers the site is listing me at..

When i was running NiceHash, i averaged 0.00637982 BTC/day with it set on auto choice....
Since running the Skein on Zpool, i have mined roughly 0.00146808 BTC in roughly an 8 hour period, so going off that number so far im looking to only get to 0.00440424/day

I am going to let it continue to run on Skein for a few more hours while i go show a few houses this morning, Im a Real Estate Realtor... but its looking like the skein route isnt as profitable for me using the current ccminer im using on Skein, maybe the alexis78 version would be better and push me back up to the same numbers as nicehash...


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: VyprBTC on June 02, 2017, 04:19:58 PM
yep.... as long as DGB maintains... it should stay pretty consistent right now.

in my second link deep, it has the instructions on making a batch file manually (I think) but yeah... sometimes the simplest problems are the biggest speed bumps when starting off.

Id highly suggest the ccmineralexis78 build for mining skien... I got a 30% hashrate increase on my 1070's, and the 1080 got 15-20% I believe...  upgrading from ccminer 1.7.

A compiled version is available to download from the nemosminer megaupload link... same forum as this thread.  You can download the .exe file separate and save it where your current miner app and batch are.

I'll be making a huge update to my batch file soon;  combining all the features in all of my batch files into one.  You'll set it once via the command line, and it will remember your last used selection until the next time you launch the batch with a new config setting....  Plus more...

The website rates will fluctuate;  but when you look at the graph over time you can see the hashrate deltas out just about where its supposed to be....   the pool calculates your share% based on how many shares of what difficulty it submits.   If you get a string of high value shares;  your hashrate shows high, etc.... just varies with "luck" as its called.   If they based it off what the miner app reported;  people would submit low diff shares only at a reduced power rate, and code in whatever hashrate they want the pool to see....   the calculated by shares method is a very predictable and pretty accurate way to do it fairly.

Anyway you could point me to the ccmineralexis78, im not really seeing it under the link you have..?

Im curious if there is a way to set it up to mine the most profitable one like it was on Nicehash miner does to include Skein... i really like that feature....

In regards to the numbers im seeing on Zpool on skein, im not sure if there is a delay in the reporting of how much im earning.. but based on the BTC it says i have earned so far and the time i have spent doing it.. the numbers just dont seem to add up compared to the Skein Profit Calculator even if i put slightly lower MH/s numbers the site is listing me at..

When i was running NiceHash, i averaged 0.00637982 BTC/day with it set on auto choice....
Since running the Skein on Zpool, i have mined roughly 0.00146808 BTC in roughly an 8 hour period, so going off that number so far im looking to only get to 0.00440424/day

I am going to let it continue to run on Skein for a few more hours while i go show a few houses this morning, Im a Real Estate Realtor... but its looking like the skein route isnt as profitable for me using the current ccminer im using on Skein, maybe the alexis78 version would be better and push me back up to the same numbers as nicehash...

I keep daily logs - your numbers for skein is right on par with what my numbers are - for the past week. I will probably switch it out to something else see if I get better returns


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: Storx on June 02, 2017, 06:11:43 PM
yep.... as long as DGB maintains... it should stay pretty consistent right now.

in my second link deep, it has the instructions on making a batch file manually (I think) but yeah... sometimes the simplest problems are the biggest speed bumps when starting off.

Id highly suggest the ccmineralexis78 build for mining skien... I got a 30% hashrate increase on my 1070's, and the 1080 got 15-20% I believe...  upgrading from ccminer 1.7.

A compiled version is available to download from the nemosminer megaupload link... same forum as this thread.  You can download the .exe file separate and save it where your current miner app and batch are.

I'll be making a huge update to my batch file soon;  combining all the features in all of my batch files into one.  You'll set it once via the command line, and it will remember your last used selection until the next time you launch the batch with a new config setting....  Plus more...

The website rates will fluctuate;  but when you look at the graph over time you can see the hashrate deltas out just about where its supposed to be....   the pool calculates your share% based on how many shares of what difficulty it submits.   If you get a string of high value shares;  your hashrate shows high, etc.... just varies with "luck" as its called.   If they based it off what the miner app reported;  people would submit low diff shares only at a reduced power rate, and code in whatever hashrate they want the pool to see....   the calculated by shares method is a very predictable and pretty accurate way to do it fairly.

Anyway you could point me to the ccmineralexis78, im not really seeing it under the link you have..?

Im curious if there is a way to set it up to mine the most profitable one like it was on Nicehash miner does to include Skein... i really like that feature....


In regards to the numbers im seeing on Zpool on skein, im not sure if there is a delay in the reporting of how much im earning.. but based on the BTC it says i have earned so far and the time i have spent doing it.. the numbers just dont seem to add up compared to the Skein Profit Calculator even if i put slightly lower MH/s numbers the site is listing me at..

When i was running NiceHash, i averaged 0.00637982 BTC/day with it set on auto choice....
Since running the Skein on Zpool, i have mined roughly 0.00146808 BTC in roughly an 8 hour period, so going off that number so far im looking to only get to 0.00440424/day

I am going to let it continue to run on Skein for a few more hours while i go show a few houses this morning, Im a Real Estate Realtor... but its looking like the skein route isnt as profitable for me using the current ccminer im using on Skein, maybe the alexis78 version would be better and push me back up to the same numbers as nicehash...

I keep daily logs - your numbers for skein is right on par with what my numbers are - for the past week. I will probably switch it out to something else see if I get better returns

Ya when i got home from showing houses to customers, i checked it and my 14hr progress was 0.00169487 BTC, which is very low.. noticed under my wallet that for about 4 hours my hashrate dropped to around 80-100Mh/s....I started back up on Nicehash tell i get ahold of other miners to check out, maybe the Alexis version is what i need... idk


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: VyprBTC on June 02, 2017, 06:13:38 PM
yep.... as long as DGB maintains... it should stay pretty consistent right now.

in my second link deep, it has the instructions on making a batch file manually (I think) but yeah... sometimes the simplest problems are the biggest speed bumps when starting off.

Id highly suggest the ccmineralexis78 build for mining skien... I got a 30% hashrate increase on my 1070's, and the 1080 got 15-20% I believe...  upgrading from ccminer 1.7.

A compiled version is available to download from the nemosminer megaupload link... same forum as this thread.  You can download the .exe file separate and save it where your current miner app and batch are.

I'll be making a huge update to my batch file soon;  combining all the features in all of my batch files into one.  You'll set it once via the command line, and it will remember your last used selection until the next time you launch the batch with a new config setting....  Plus more...

The website rates will fluctuate;  but when you look at the graph over time you can see the hashrate deltas out just about where its supposed to be....   the pool calculates your share% based on how many shares of what difficulty it submits.   If you get a string of high value shares;  your hashrate shows high, etc.... just varies with "luck" as its called.   If they based it off what the miner app reported;  people would submit low diff shares only at a reduced power rate, and code in whatever hashrate they want the pool to see....   the calculated by shares method is a very predictable and pretty accurate way to do it fairly.

Anyway you could point me to the ccmineralexis78, im not really seeing it under the link you have..?


Im curious if there is a way to set it up to mine the most profitable one like it was on Nicehash miner does to include Skein... i really like that feature....


In regards to the numbers im seeing on Zpool on skein, im not sure if there is a delay in the reporting of how much im earning.. but based on the BTC it says i have earned so far and the time i have spent doing it.. the numbers just dont seem to add up compared to the Skein Profit Calculator even if i put slightly lower MH/s numbers the site is listing me at..

When i was running NiceHash, i averaged 0.00637982 BTC/day with it set on auto choice....
Since running the Skein on Zpool, i have mined roughly 0.00146808 BTC in roughly an 8 hour period, so going off that number so far im looking to only get to 0.00440424/day

I am going to let it continue to run on Skein for a few more hours while i go show a few houses this morning, Im a Real Estate Realtor... but its looking like the skein route isnt as profitable for me using the current ccminer im using on Skein, maybe the alexis78 version would be better and push me back up to the same numbers as nicehash...

I keep daily logs - your numbers for skein is right on par with what my numbers are - for the past week. I will probably switch it out to something else see if I get better returns

Ya when i got home from showing houses to customers, i checked it and my 14hr progress was 0.00169487 BTC, which is very low.. noticed under my wallet that for about 4 hours my hashrate dropped to around 80-100Mh/s....I started back up on Nicehash tell i get ahold of other miners to check out, maybe the Alexis version is what i need... idk




I use the alexis78 version and my nubers are pretty much the same


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: cvsea on June 02, 2017, 06:41:10 PM
So...using ccminer tpruvot 2.0 cuda 8.0 in which I placed ccminerAlexis78.exe. 1080 ti, getting a hair over 1000mh/s. (Should there be any issues here I'm not considering? Compatibility and so on?)

I point it to miningpoolhub, no autoexchange (i get the coins in poloniex and convert them there).
1st day ok, second day around 15% over what calculator says, 3rd day going down, 4th day even lower (about 10% lower than whattomine).

So is the fluctuation in coins produced/day that large? Is the diff changing that fast? Bad pool?
It seems I'm missing something here...


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: sidog on June 02, 2017, 09:09:21 PM

Anyway you could point me to the ccmineralexis78, im not really seeing it under the link you have..?



After much digging around, I was able to find this link buried a few layers deep (or just confusing to trail) :

NemosMiner-v1.7.4-ZPOOL: https://mega.nz/#F!5vIGUCzC!nLsQtAwDRiV8MYA_P-q9yg (https://mega.nz/#F!5vIGUCzC!nLsQtAwDRiV8MYA_P-q9yg)


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: nu1mlock on June 02, 2017, 10:06:16 PM
you keep saying this with no actual evidence past trying to base your assumptions off things you don't understand.... or as far as I can tell that you even care to even attempt at this point.

stop the FUD, unless you have some real evidence that can prove your accusations (such as the offending pool code, etc).
The reason people are saying that zpool steal 30% of your earnings is because they did - but they don't anymore.

I tried it myself with a Baikal Giant a few months ago and compared to other pools, I received about 20-30% less (can't remember the exact percentage right now) than any other pool. It's been talked about in their pool thread for some time and the first thread was closed because of it. They didn't even try to hide it because it was all very obvious when looking at the statistics of mined coins.

They have, however, changed that - at least last I checked, so they don't take that amount of percentage anymore and should be on par with other auto-exchange pools out there.

But yeah, the reason people are saying that zpool are "stealing" is because they were. But not anymore.


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: Storx on June 02, 2017, 11:31:06 PM
So...using ccminer tpruvot 2.0 cuda 8.0 in which I placed ccminerAlexis78.exe. 1080 ti, getting a hair over 1000mh/s. (Should there be any issues here I'm not considering? Compatibility and so on?)

I point it to miningpoolhub, no autoexchange (i get the coins in poloniex and convert them there).
1st day ok, second day around 15% over what calculator says, 3rd day going down, 4th day even lower (about 10% lower than whattomine).

So is the fluctuation in coins produced/day that large? Is the diff changing that fast? Bad pool?
It seems I'm missing something here...

What is your actual wallet numbers? The reason i ask this is because according to the page of the mining pool i was using zpool.ca it was estimating im going to make like 28-30usd/day worth of BTC with my pair of GTX1080ti's... but the actual BTC i made in 14 hours mining was on par to only make $11/day... so the estimation vs actual earnings are WAY OFF>...... and i was bouncing between 900-1000Mh/s on each card... so 1800-2000Mh/s



also could you give your input on why you went the no autoexchange route? just trying to learn from all of this... Im currently using JAXX wallet with auto into BTC....


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: Storx on June 02, 2017, 11:39:42 PM
Well i just UP'd my game in the mining power.. i caught wind on another post of a ebay seller selling GTX1080ti's NEW for $598 w/free shipping, so i snagged up all 4 cards he had left for sale... which will bring my total up to 6 x GTX1080ti's coming up soon... I also bought 4 more waterblocks for them and some fittings.. going to see if i can support them all on my single watercooling setup i currently have...

I am not fully sure if i can even add all 6 to my current motherboard... It has 2 x PCIe x16, 1 PCIe x8, 3 PCIe 1x... if anything ill be able to add the 3rd card into the system tell i figure out what to do with the 3 others.. I do have my old computer in the garage with a 850 watt PSU that i could cram the other 3 into... i would just need to get card extenders for them and a larger psu for it..... right now im pulling 237watts estimate each card.. so 3 should put me in the 700ish range in my main rig....


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: JaredKaragen on June 03, 2017, 02:45:21 AM
After much digging around, I was able to find this link buried a few layers deep (or just confusing to trail) :

NemosMiner-v1.7.4-ZPOOL: https://mega.nz/#F!5vIGUCzC!nLsQtAwDRiV8MYA_P-q9yg (https://mega.nz/#F!5vIGUCzC!nLsQtAwDRiV8MYA_P-q9yg)

That link can change over time as it has a few times before.   That's why I only reference to look for his thread, and it's right up top on his first post.

I will personally comment:   On zpool:  there are good days and bad days.  Just the same as any other pool.   But Ill repeat;  the good days outweigh the bad days.  If you were on the lyra2v2 port;  you would feel this issue 10x as more like I did before I swapped to skien.

The EXACT point when people started accusing zpool of stealing is when the altcoin market was reaching it's all time low and BTC was worth just a little over $200.  It's easy to blame the pool when you have a lack of knowledge.    Around this same time, the pool code was updated, and the graphs were now showing the rejects on the graph as well.  This freaked the living crap out of people because it wasn't relative to the coin's hashrate;  one reject on a very low hashrate algo (like cpu algos) would cause the whole graph to be superseded by the larger valued reject number (1-10% instead of the share of .01%, etc).   Through this time, people were pointing wild fingers, and probably blaming the pool for them being on a non-profitable algo.

Remember;  people create their own optimized miners and run them to get a better cut of the earnings:  more profit from your pocket.  when you finally catch up, suddenly it doesn't seem so bad.   This is another VERY key element to this madness.

Third:  PEople base shit off of SPECULATION posted on other sites that do contain a LARGE amount of POSSIBLE error since it is going across many platforms and algos that all contain their own errors and thus it can compound the error GREATLY.    This, with enough research and critical thinking can be seen and understood; on top of being logical.  I.E.  the people who have personally told me that whattomine reported less earnings than they actually received.


Now;  let's consider the troll factor:   Whales buy, and convince you to get on board enough for them to sell at a profit.    Who runs whattomine?
 Where were their profit stakes at those points in time?  Would it make sense to sway people away from what you want to do so you can buy in lower, then recommend it later to sell higher????  this makes PERFECT and REASONABLE sense.

You guys have to look past what's in front of you and look deeper to what you don't fully understand.   You can't form a conclusion on your math for yesterday, just because your test of the next day came out different then the day before.... etc.   Remember;  I keep repeating:  The good days outweigh the bad.  It fluctuates.

I do remember seeing one test that bothered me;  which was someone mining a one coin algo, earning ~90-95% of the rewards, getting paid out in that specific coin, and getting paid less than originally was unconfirmed.....   But considering the pool gets paid in BTC....  some has to be exchanged to equal the pool's percentage...  which means selling at lower than market "sell" rates and fulfilling a lower buy order in order to payout the pool and the miner..... making a minimum sized sell order, etc.... it adds up.   That's one way I could have understood that happening.... but also;  the guy was not 100% of shares.... so his diagnostic was flawed, because he was basing his hypothesis on how the pool works on solely that concept (I should have gotten all the rewards, which is false).

Another thing I keep mentioning, and seeing, is when pool hashrate for an algo crests a certain amount;  profitability drops a bit and luck smooths out to being less noticeable just like when difficulty shoots up..  When the skien pool was 10-30Gh, I was making a killing.   Now that hashrate is ~10x that, It's less profit; and the coins are worth buttloads more (DGB anyone?).    This is a complete fact in my eyes.   I am almost thinking of getting a group of people on board for a test;  see if crackfoo will create a second skien wallet, on a separate port, and have ~10-20Gh of hash dedicated to that port only.   We can compare this to the high hash port and test my hypothesis.....   But I am still working out the details on this.  When I was making ~10-15% pool hashrate on the same gear I am running now;  (before calling you guys to come earn) I seriously made a killing compared to any other algo and profitability went over 0.007mbtc/mh/day.

Sorry for caps guys, but it's for emphasis and I don't feel like adding
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all over the place..[/code]


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: Storx on June 03, 2017, 03:09:34 AM
After much digging around, I was able to find this link buried a few layers deep (or just confusing to trail) :

NemosMiner-v1.7.4-ZPOOL: https://mega.nz/#F!5vIGUCzC!nLsQtAwDRiV8MYA_P-q9yg (https://mega.nz/#F!5vIGUCzC!nLsQtAwDRiV8MYA_P-q9yg)

That link can change over time as it has a few times before.   That's why I only reference to look for his thread, and it's right up top on his first post.

I will personally comment:   On zpool:  there are good days and bad days.  Just the same as any other pool.   But Ill repeat;  the good days outweigh the bad days.  If you were on the lyra2v2 port;  you would feel this issue 10x as more like I did before I swapped to skien.

The EXACT point when people started accusing zpool of stealing is when the altcoin market was reaching it's all time low and BTC was worth just a little over $200.  It's easy to blame the pool when you have a lack of knowledge.    Around this same time, the pool code was updated, and the graphs were now showing the rejects on the graph as well.  This freaked the living crap out of people because it wasn't relative to the coin's hashrate;  one reject on a very low hashrate algo (like cpu algos) would cause the whole graph to be superseded by the larger valued reject number (1-10% instead of the share of .01%, etc).   Through this time, people were pointing wild fingers, and probably blaming the pool for them being on a non-profitable algo.

Remember;  people create their own optimized miners and run them to get a better cut of the earnings:  more profit from your pocket.  when you finally catch up, suddenly it doesn't seem so bad.   This is another VERY key element to this madness.

Third:  PEople base shit off of SPECULATION posted on other sites that do contain a LARGE amount of POSSIBLE error since it is going across many platforms and algos that all contain their own errors and thus it can compound the error GREATLY.    This, with enough research and critical thinking can be seen and understood; on top of being logical.  I.E.  the people who have personally told me that whattomine reported less earnings than they actually received.


Now;  let's consider the troll factor:   Whales buy, and convince you to get on board enough for them to sell at a profit.    Who runs whattomine?
 Where were their profit stakes at those points in time?  Would it make sense to sway people away from what you want to do so you can buy in lower, then recommend it later to sell higher????  this makes PERFECT and REASONABLE sense.

You guys have to look past what's in front of you and look deeper to what you don't fully understand.   You can't form a conclusion on your math for yesterday, just because your test of the next day came out different then the day before.... etc.   Remember;  I keep repeating:  The good days outweigh the bad.  It fluctuates.

I do remember seeing one test that bothered me;  which was someone mining a one coin algo, earning ~90-95% of the rewards, getting paid out in that specific coin, and getting paid less than originally was unconfirmed.....   But considering the pool gets paid in BTC....  some has to be exchanged to equal the pool's percentage...  which means selling at lower than market "sell" rates and fulfilling a lower buy order in order to payout the pool and the miner..... making a minimum sized sell order, etc.... it adds up.   That's one way I could have understood that happening.... but also;  the guy was not 100% of shares.... so his diagnostic was flawed, because he was basing his hypothesis on how the pool works on solely that concept (I should have gotten all the rewards, which is false).

Another thing I keep mentioning, and seeing, is when pool hashrate for an algo crests a certain amount;  profitability drops a bit and luck smooths out to being less noticeable just like when difficulty shoots up..  When the skien pool was 10-30Gh, I was making a killing.   Now that hashrate is ~10x that, It's less profit; and the coins are worth buttloads more (DGB anyone?).    This is a complete fact in my eyes.   I am almost thinking of getting a group of people on board for a test;  see if crackfoo will create a second skien wallet, on a separate port, and have ~10-20Gh of hash dedicated to that port only.   We can compare this to the high hash port and test my hypothesis.....   But I am still working out the details on this.  When I was making ~10-15% pool hashrate on the same gear I am running now;  (before calling you guys to come earn) I seriously made a killing compared to any other algo and profitability went over 0.007mbtc/mh/day.

Sorry for caps guys, but it's for emphasis and I don't feel like adding
Code:
[code]
all over the place..[/code]


Thanks for explaining things, i am not downing Skein at all or Zpool.ca, i just have no clue why my earnings were so low.. im not sure if its the miner i tested, a setting needing changed, or just a connection issue.. just was very confused on the super low rates, so tell i get it figured out and test the other miner listed above im just defaulting back to the one that is running most stable and consistent for me at the time while im busy away from home working.. If Skein is truly more profitable, you bet your ass i want to get this figured out so i can jump on that mining train....


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: JaredKaragen on June 03, 2017, 03:13:05 AM
if you weren't on the alexis build, you were probably not earning as much as you could....  there's rumor of another build, but so far its just smoke and mirrors....   people are becoming more greedy when sharing with the community.


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: cvsea on June 03, 2017, 07:36:24 AM
So...using ccminer tpruvot 2.0 cuda 8.0 in which I placed ccminerAlexis78.exe. 1080 ti, getting a hair over 1000mh/s. (Should there be any issues here I'm not considering? Compatibility and so on?)

I point it to miningpoolhub, no autoexchange (i get the coins in poloniex and convert them there).
1st day ok, second day around 15% over what calculator says, 3rd day going down, 4th day even lower (about 10% lower than whattomine).

So is the fluctuation in coins produced/day that large? Is the diff changing that fast? Bad pool?
It seems I'm missing something here...

What is your actual wallet numbers? The reason i ask this is because according to the page of the mining pool i was using zpool.ca it was estimating im going to make like 28-30usd/day worth of BTC with my pair of GTX1080ti's... but the actual BTC i made in 14 hours mining was on par to only make $11/day... so the estimation vs actual earnings are WAY OFF>...... and i was bouncing between 900-1000Mh/s on each card... so 1800-2000Mh/s



also could you give your input on why you went the no autoexchange route? just trying to learn from all of this... Im currently using JAXX wallet with auto into BTC....

I try to exchange the coins myself. If you hold on to them a little bit you can get more BTC for them. DGB price went up the past day from 1087 sats to 1460 and climbing. When I sell all the DGB  I made in one day now, I get more btc. Makes sense to go this route. You can even hold for longer if you think price will go up more.

The pool still shows lower numbers but within $1/day difference. You should be getting whatever whattomine says for your hashrate.
This is very close to what I'm getting: http://whattomine.com/coins/114-dgb-skein?utf8=%E2%9C%93&hr=1000.0&p=250.0&fee=5&cost=0.0&hcost=0.0&commit=Calculate


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: Storx on June 03, 2017, 07:41:38 AM
if you weren't on the alexis build, you were probably not earning as much as you could....  there's rumor of another build, but so far its just smoke and mirrors....   people are becoming more greedy when sharing with the community.

Hey bud, could you help me a little in regards to the NemosMiner-v1.7.4-ZPOOL...

I followed the directions, added my BTC address, then "REM" all algo's to run 1 at a time to get the hashrates to place in the tuning line. I for the life of me cant get the miner to run by "REM" all except SKEIN, it just fails to start... the only way i can get SKEIN to work is by allowing atleast 2 algo's open to cycle through, but the miner switches between the 2.. i dont know how to get it to run ONLY skein....

If i cant only run skein, then i want to finish tuning the hashtag line, so it properly runs the most profitable one..., but for the life of me i cant get any algo to run except Lyra2v2 and Skein... all others fail when starting the miner.. so right now i managed to get it to stay on Skein, by setting the lyra one lower than it should be.. but i would like to get equihash and lyra algo's figured out on running them, because when i go to what to mine.. and plug in my hashing rates right now it is saying equihash is my most profitable algo to mine..

I dont know how to insert the code like you do, but basically this is how its setup https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4233/34934405721_2c9170988a_o_d.png




Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: Storx on June 03, 2017, 07:44:23 AM
So...using ccminer tpruvot 2.0 cuda 8.0 in which I placed ccminerAlexis78.exe. 1080 ti, getting a hair over 1000mh/s. (Should there be any issues here I'm not considering? Compatibility and so on?)

I point it to miningpoolhub, no autoexchange (i get the coins in poloniex and convert them there).
1st day ok, second day around 15% over what calculator says, 3rd day going down, 4th day even lower (about 10% lower than whattomine).

So is the fluctuation in coins produced/day that large? Is the diff changing that fast? Bad pool?
It seems I'm missing something here...

What is your actual wallet numbers? The reason i ask this is because according to the page of the mining pool i was using zpool.ca it was estimating im going to make like 28-30usd/day worth of BTC with my pair of GTX1080ti's... but the actual BTC i made in 14 hours mining was on par to only make $11/day... so the estimation vs actual earnings are WAY OFF>...... and i was bouncing between 900-1000Mh/s on each card... so 1800-2000Mh/s



also could you give your input on why you went the no autoexchange route? just trying to learn from all of this... Im currently using JAXX wallet with auto into BTC....

I try to exchange the coins myself. If you hold on to them a little bit you can get more BTC for them. DGB price went up the past day from 1087 sats to 1460 and climbing. When I sell all the DGB  I made in one day now, I get more btc. Makes sense to go this route. You can even hold for longer if you think price will go up more.

The pool still shows lower numbers but within $1/day difference. You should be getting whatever whattomine says for your hashrate.
This is very close to what I'm getting: http://whattomine.com/coins/114-dgb-skein?utf8=%E2%9C%93&hr=1000.0&p=250.0&fee=5&cost=0.0&hcost=0.0&commit=Calculate

When i go to Zpool.ca and look under benchmarks the number on there is always lower than what the miner reports inside the window (1980-2020Mh/s)... on zpool.ca under benchmarks, its showing 1898.63Mh/s for Skein


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: QuintLeo on June 03, 2017, 08:19:31 AM

I use the alexis78 version and my nubers are pretty much the same


 alexis78 for me in my short testing was giving noticeably more hashrate (I want to say 15% or so but I don't remember the exact numbers) on my 1080, and a little more on a couple of my 1070s, for Skein vs the trpv 2.0 fork of ccminer or the KlausT fork of ccminer (which later pair seemed to give identical performance on skein).
 
 Definitely worth checking out for skein mining, though it can be a royal PAIN to locate a working copy if you don't have the tools on Windows to compile it from the github source code.



Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: cvsea on June 03, 2017, 08:37:08 AM
So...using ccminer tpruvot 2.0 cuda 8.0 in which I placed ccminerAlexis78.exe. 1080 ti, getting a hair over 1000mh/s. (Should there be any issues here I'm not considering? Compatibility and so on?)

I point it to miningpoolhub, no autoexchange (i get the coins in poloniex and convert them there).
1st day ok, second day around 15% over what calculator says, 3rd day going down, 4th day even lower (about 10% lower than whattomine).

So is the fluctuation in coins produced/day that large? Is the diff changing that fast? Bad pool?
It seems I'm missing something here...

What is your actual wallet numbers? The reason i ask this is because according to the page of the mining pool i was using zpool.ca it was estimating im going to make like 28-30usd/day worth of BTC with my pair of GTX1080ti's... but the actual BTC i made in 14 hours mining was on par to only make $11/day... so the estimation vs actual earnings are WAY OFF>...... and i was bouncing between 900-1000Mh/s on each card... so 1800-2000Mh/s



also could you give your input on why you went the no autoexchange route? just trying to learn from all of this... Im currently using JAXX wallet with auto into BTC....

I try to exchange the coins myself. If you hold on to them a little bit you can get more BTC for them. DGB price went up the past day from 1087 sats to 1460 and climbing. When I sell all the DGB  I made in one day now, I get more btc. Makes sense to go this route. You can even hold for longer if you think price will go up more.

The pool still shows lower numbers but within $1/day difference. You should be getting whatever whattomine says for your hashrate.
This is very close to what I'm getting: http://whattomine.com/coins/114-dgb-skein?utf8=%E2%9C%93&hr=1000.0&p=250.0&fee=5&cost=0.0&hcost=0.0&commit=Calculate

When i go to Zpool.ca and look under benchmarks the number on there is always lower than what the miner reports inside the window (1980-2020Mh/s)... on zpool.ca under benchmarks, its showing 1898.63Mh/s for Skein

Pools calculate your hashrate based on submitted shares. The 24/48 hours earnings should match closely what you're supposed to get + there are more rejects with skein (about 5%) due to very short block time.

Got 518 DGB for yesterday with one 1080ti. That's about $19 as of now. I'm getting $20 with 4 x 480's. Strange times in the mining game  :D

http://imgur.com/a/lP5AJ


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: Vaccinus on June 03, 2017, 09:38:07 AM
So...using ccminer tpruvot 2.0 cuda 8.0 in which I placed ccminerAlexis78.exe. 1080 ti, getting a hair over 1000mh/s. (Should there be any issues here I'm not considering? Compatibility and so on?)

I point it to miningpoolhub, no autoexchange (i get the coins in poloniex and convert them there).
1st day ok, second day around 15% over what calculator says, 3rd day going down, 4th day even lower (about 10% lower than whattomine).

So is the fluctuation in coins produced/day that large? Is the diff changing that fast? Bad pool?
It seems I'm missing something here...

What is your actual wallet numbers? The reason i ask this is because according to the page of the mining pool i was using zpool.ca it was estimating im going to make like 28-30usd/day worth of BTC with my pair of GTX1080ti's... but the actual BTC i made in 14 hours mining was on par to only make $11/day... so the estimation vs actual earnings are WAY OFF>...... and i was bouncing between 900-1000Mh/s on each card... so 1800-2000Mh/s



also could you give your input on why you went the no autoexchange route? just trying to learn from all of this... Im currently using JAXX wallet with auto into BTC....

I try to exchange the coins myself. If you hold on to them a little bit you can get more BTC for them. DGB price went up the past day from 1087 sats to 1460 and climbing. When I sell all the DGB  I made in one day now, I get more btc. Makes sense to go this route. You can even hold for longer if you think price will go up more.

The pool still shows lower numbers but within $1/day difference. You should be getting whatever whattomine says for your hashrate.
This is very close to what I'm getting: http://whattomine.com/coins/114-dgb-skein?utf8=%E2%9C%93&hr=1000.0&p=250.0&fee=5&cost=0.0&hcost=0.0&commit=Calculate

When i go to Zpool.ca and look under benchmarks the number on there is always lower than what the miner reports inside the window (1980-2020Mh/s)... on zpool.ca under benchmarks, its showing 1898.63Mh/s for Skein

you need to use alexis version, it give you better hashrate, but there is an optimized version of alexis which i think can give you another additional boost, it's called enemy or something, i can't find it, compiled with cuda 8.0


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: chrysophylax on June 03, 2017, 09:39:33 AM
interesting topic ...

we are rebuilding our test machine - 5 x gigabyte aorus 1080ti extreme - for full production in the coming days ...

we have been waiting on these high end cards for a long time - have tested - and they are beasts in the mining division ...

this machine is the blueprint for the others that will follow ...

#crysx

What risers are you using for the Aorus beasts? Also curious what PSU you're going to go with, I'm in the process of reconfig. as well.

Link please? :) Thanks.

hi ...

- the risers are the higher end usb30 risers ...
- the psu are 2 x corsair ax1200i 80+ platinum ...

they will be replacing the gigabyte 980ti extreme cards we have been mining with ...

as for the link - what link were you referring to? ...

#crysx


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: JaredKaragen on June 03, 2017, 01:15:47 PM
if you weren't on the alexis build, you were probably not earning as much as you could....  there's rumor of another build, but so far its just smoke and mirrors....   people are becoming more greedy when sharing with the community.

Hey bud, could you help me a little in regards to the NemosMiner-v1.7.4-ZPOOL...

I followed the directions, added my BTC address, then "REM" all algo's to run 1 at a time to get the hashrates to place in the tuning line. I for the life of me cant get the miner to run by "REM" all except SKEIN, it just fails to start... the only way i can get SKEIN to work is by allowing atleast 2 algo's open to cycle through, but the miner switches between the 2.. i dont know how to get it to run ONLY skein....

If i cant only run skein, then i want to finish tuning the hashtag line, so it properly runs the most profitable one..., but for the life of me i cant get any algo to run except Lyra2v2 and Skein... all others fail when starting the miner.. so right now i managed to get it to stay on Skein, by setting the lyra one lower than it should be.. but i would like to get equihash and lyra algo's figured out on running them, because when i go to what to mine.. and plug in my hashing rates right now it is saying equihash is my most profitable algo to mine..

I dont know how to insert the code like you do, but basically this is how its setup https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4233/34934405721_2c9170988a_o_d.png



post the copy of your modified batch this way next time....

use the
Code:
code posting feature
when you post it.  Much easier than a photo.

you didn't remove the algos from the password.  I see you have lyra2 and skien enabled....   but the pool thinks you have ALL the other algos enabled.

Should look like this for your config:
Code:
SET PASS=C=BTC,lyra2v2=68.34,skien=969.54,stats

The pool was probably trying to throw you on a disabled algo and leaving the stratum on your desired algos disconnected....

If you want to run one algo, I highly suggest just making a single batch per algo to test....


I.E.
skienonly.bat
Code:
:START
ccminerAlexis78.exe -a skein -o stratum+tcp://skein.mine.zpool.ca:4933 -u 1PHSDYvVp6HpqtuUPocK41DrdeHbbezaeP -p c=BTC,skien,stats
goto start





Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: Storx on June 03, 2017, 06:45:50 PM
So...using ccminer tpruvot 2.0 cuda 8.0 in which I placed ccminerAlexis78.exe. 1080 ti, getting a hair over 1000mh/s. (Should there be any issues here I'm not considering? Compatibility and so on?)

I point it to miningpoolhub, no autoexchange (i get the coins in poloniex and convert them there).
1st day ok, second day around 15% over what calculator says, 3rd day going down, 4th day even lower (about 10% lower than whattomine).

So is the fluctuation in coins produced/day that large? Is the diff changing that fast? Bad pool?
It seems I'm missing something here...

What is your actual wallet numbers? The reason i ask this is because according to the page of the mining pool i was using zpool.ca it was estimating im going to make like 28-30usd/day worth of BTC with my pair of GTX1080ti's... but the actual BTC i made in 14 hours mining was on par to only make $11/day... so the estimation vs actual earnings are WAY OFF>...... and i was bouncing between 900-1000Mh/s on each card... so 1800-2000Mh/s



also could you give your input on why you went the no autoexchange route? just trying to learn from all of this... Im currently using JAXX wallet with auto into BTC....

I try to exchange the coins myself. If you hold on to them a little bit you can get more BTC for them. DGB price went up the past day from 1087 sats to 1460 and climbing. When I sell all the DGB  I made in one day now, I get more btc. Makes sense to go this route. You can even hold for longer if you think price will go up more.

The pool still shows lower numbers but within $1/day difference. You should be getting whatever whattomine says for your hashrate.
This is very close to what I'm getting: http://whattomine.com/coins/114-dgb-skein?utf8=%E2%9C%93&hr=1000.0&p=250.0&fee=5&cost=0.0&hcost=0.0&commit=Calculate

When i go to Zpool.ca and look under benchmarks the number on there is always lower than what the miner reports inside the window (1980-2020Mh/s)... on zpool.ca under benchmarks, its showing 1898.63Mh/s for Skein

Pools calculate your hashrate based on submitted shares. The 24/48 hours earnings should match closely what you're supposed to get + there are more rejects with skein (about 5%) due to very short block time.

Got 518 DGB for yesterday with one 1080ti. That's about $19 as of now. I'm getting $20 with 4 x 480's. Strange times in the mining game  :D

http://imgur.com/a/lP5AJ


I would love to chat with you more on how your managing this if you dont mind.. i ran skein lastnight for 614minutes before it crashed using the neominer software.. im assuming i have the batch file all messed up which confused it at one point and it crashed..

based off the 614 minutes my pair of 1080tis were up and running in the software, it says i earned 0.00373776 (roughly $22.70USD/day estimate) on zpool.ca over that period, and im not even sure if that is the true amount i could have earned, because throughout the night it switched to lyra2REv2 a few times and had interruption errors and cycled in that state for a while tell it would finally start mining again..

I just created a new batch file from the help i got earlier to just mine Skein only and not use the multi-algo batch file.. if the profits continue to be the same, i should make around $22/day vs $17/day i was getting with Nicehash


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: Storx on June 03, 2017, 06:57:43 PM
if you weren't on the alexis build, you were probably not earning as much as you could....  there's rumor of another build, but so far its just smoke and mirrors....   people are becoming more greedy when sharing with the community.

Hey bud, could you help me a little in regards to the NemosMiner-v1.7.4-ZPOOL...

I followed the directions, added my BTC address, then "REM" all algo's to run 1 at a time to get the hashrates to place in the tuning line. I for the life of me cant get the miner to run by "REM" all except SKEIN, it just fails to start... the only way i can get SKEIN to work is by allowing atleast 2 algo's open to cycle through, but the miner switches between the 2.. i dont know how to get it to run ONLY skein....

If i cant only run skein, then i want to finish tuning the hashtag line, so it properly runs the most profitable one..., but for the life of me i cant get any algo to run except Lyra2v2 and Skein... all others fail when starting the miner.. so right now i managed to get it to stay on Skein, by setting the lyra one lower than it should be.. but i would like to get equihash and lyra algo's figured out on running them, because when i go to what to mine.. and plug in my hashing rates right now it is saying equihash is my most profitable algo to mine..

I dont know how to insert the code like you do, but basically this is how its setup https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4233/34934405721_2c9170988a_o_d.png



post the copy of your modified batch this way next time....

use the
Code:
code posting feature
when you post it.  Much easier than a photo.

you didn't remove the algos from the password.  I see you have lyra2 and skien enabled....   but the pool thinks you have ALL the other algos enabled.

Should look like this for your config:
Code:
SET PASS=C=BTC,lyra2v2=68.34,skien=969.54,stats

The pool was probably trying to throw you on a disabled algo and leaving the stratum on your desired algos disconnected....

If you want to run one algo, I highly suggest just making a single batch per algo to test....


I.E.
skienonly.bat
Code:
:START
ccminerAlexis78.exe -a skein -o stratum+tcp://skein.mine.zpool.ca:4933 -u 1PHSDYvVp6HpqtuUPocK41DrdeHbbezaeP -p c=BTC,skien,stats
goto start





Thanks for the help man, i would like to figure out how to add a few of the coins in the NemosMiner and get them working correctly. I just tried to delete all coins i dont want to mine from the password area, it would not run at all.. i had only 4 coins listed, Equihash, Lyra2REv2, Skein, and Lbyr

I noticed that Equihash is not in the pass line with the hashrates at all...

I tried running the miner seperate with custom batch file and it started just fine, just the coin doesnt start in the nemosminer....
Code:
:START
zminer.exe -a equihash -o stratum+tcp://equihash.mine.zpool.ca:2143 -u bitcoinwallet -p c=BTC,equihash,stats
goto start

Also, do you know how the algo determines when to switch coins based on profit? just want to understand more on how the batch file does this..


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: Storx on June 03, 2017, 08:44:44 PM
So...using ccminer tpruvot 2.0 cuda 8.0 in which I placed ccminerAlexis78.exe. 1080 ti, getting a hair over 1000mh/s. (Should there be any issues here I'm not considering? Compatibility and so on?)

I point it to miningpoolhub, no autoexchange (i get the coins in poloniex and convert them there).
1st day ok, second day around 15% over what calculator says, 3rd day going down, 4th day even lower (about 10% lower than whattomine).

So is the fluctuation in coins produced/day that large? Is the diff changing that fast? Bad pool?
It seems I'm missing something here...

What is your actual wallet numbers? The reason i ask this is because according to the page of the mining pool i was using zpool.ca it was estimating im going to make like 28-30usd/day worth of BTC with my pair of GTX1080ti's... but the actual BTC i made in 14 hours mining was on par to only make $11/day... so the estimation vs actual earnings are WAY OFF>...... and i was bouncing between 900-1000Mh/s on each card... so 1800-2000Mh/s



also could you give your input on why you went the no autoexchange route? just trying to learn from all of this... Im currently using JAXX wallet with auto into BTC....

I try to exchange the coins myself. If you hold on to them a little bit you can get more BTC for them. DGB price went up the past day from 1087 sats to 1460 and climbing. When I sell all the DGB  I made in one day now, I get more btc. Makes sense to go this route. You can even hold for longer if you think price will go up more.

The pool still shows lower numbers but within $1/day difference. You should be getting whatever whattomine says for your hashrate.
This is very close to what I'm getting: http://whattomine.com/coins/114-dgb-skein?utf8=%E2%9C%93&hr=1000.0&p=250.0&fee=5&cost=0.0&hcost=0.0&commit=Calculate

When i go to Zpool.ca and look under benchmarks the number on there is always lower than what the miner reports inside the window (1980-2020Mh/s)... on zpool.ca under benchmarks, its showing 1898.63Mh/s for Skein

Pools calculate your hashrate based on submitted shares. The 24/48 hours earnings should match closely what you're supposed to get + there are more rejects with skein (about 5%) due to very short block time.

Got 518 DGB for yesterday with one 1080ti. That's about $19 as of now. I'm getting $20 with 4 x 480's. Strange times in the mining game  :D

http://imgur.com/a/lP5AJ


Hey what software is that your using to view your miner status?


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: cvsea on June 03, 2017, 11:24:53 PM
Quote
Hey what software is that your using to view your miner status?

Just the pool stats for my worker. Nothing fancy  :D

1. I use the same software as you
2. I don't do auto exchange. I send the coins to Poloniex. Why? DGB price went up a lot today (it may go down tomorrow :-X). I hold the coins until I see a better chance at a profit and sell. Simple, you just have to be on top of it.
3. Event without chasing the price, as of now, you should be making this with 2 x 1080ti mining skein and sending to an exchange + converting once a day to BTC: http://whattomine.com/coins/114-dgb-skein?utf8=%E2%9C%93&hr=2000&p=250.0&fee=5.0&cost=0.0&hcost=0.0&commit=Calculate
Maybe less (there is a dump in progress as I'm typing  :'( )

That's about it  8)



Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: VyprBTC on June 03, 2017, 11:39:33 PM
Quote
Hey what software is that your using to view your miner status?

Just the pool stats for my worker. Nothing fancy  :D

1. I use the same software as you
2. I don't do auto exchange. I send the coins to Poloniex. Why? DGB price went up a lot today (it may go down tomorrow :-X). I hold the coins until I see a better chance at a profit and sell. Simple, you just have to be on top of it.
3. Event without chasing the price, as of now, you should be making this with 2 x 1080ti mining skein and sending to an exchange + converting once a day to BTC: http://whattomine.com/coins/114-dgb-skein?utf8=%E2%9C%93&hr=2000&p=250.0&fee=5.0&cost=0.0&hcost=0.0&commit=Calculate
Maybe less (there is a dump in progress as I'm typing  :'( )

That's about it  8)



what pool are you using? and using alexis78?


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: cvsea on June 03, 2017, 11:46:18 PM
Miningpoolhub. I just downloaded nemosminer with alexis 78. Same result as my setup from before, will test for stability until morning.
You should clean up with all those ti's coming your way  :)

EDIT: replied to your pm btw


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: VyprBTC on June 04, 2017, 12:04:32 AM
Miningpoolhub. I just downloaded nemosminer with alexis 78. Same result as my setup from before, will test for stability until morning.
You should clean up with all those ti's coming your way  :)

EDIT: replied to your pm btw

Thanks for the PM I missed it. Settings look good I do same settings on clock and mem but my TDP is 75% not 100.

Have electrician installing the 30A next week so at least I can get a few more rigs online, then have to confirm with power company and city about a 200A upgrade. Then things will be a tiny bit better.


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: philipma1957 on June 04, 2017, 12:09:05 AM
Miningpoolhub. I just downloaded nemosminer with alexis 78. Same result as my setup from before, will test for stability until morning.
You should clean up with all those ti's coming your way  :)

EDIT: replied to your pm btw

yeah he will I am doing very well at 11gh of hash on skein


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: VyprBTC on June 04, 2017, 12:16:36 AM
Miningpoolhub. I just downloaded nemosminer with alexis 78. Same result as my setup from before, will test for stability until morning.
You should clean up with all those ti's coming your way  :)

EDIT: replied to your pm btw

yeah he will I am doing very well at 11gh of hash on skein

Phil your last 24hrs look amazing! You're averaging 0.005020135 mBTC/MH/s



Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: Elder III on June 04, 2017, 01:29:50 AM
I have been mining DGB the past couple of days on my personal machine with a pair of GTX 1080 Ti GPUs. I've been using a different version of ccminer and was very pleased with it, but after seeing reports of others doing even better with alexis78's version I decided to try it out. Could someone be so kind as to post their batch file?  The .bat I was using with my other ccminer version does not seem to be compatible and my attempts at altering it have not worked thus far.  Thanks!


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: Storx on June 04, 2017, 02:50:28 AM
I have been mining DGB the past couple of days on my personal machine with a pair of GTX 1080 Ti GPUs. I've been using a different version of ccminer and was very pleased with it, but after seeing reports of others doing even better with alexis78's version I decided to try it out. Could someone be so kind as to post their batch file?  The .bat I was using with my other ccminer version does not seem to be compatible and my attempts at altering it have not worked thus far.  Thanks!

This is mine...
Code:
:START
ccminerAlexis78-8.08.exe -a skein -o stratum+tcp://skein.mine.zpool.ca:4933 -u Insert Bitcoin wallet -p c=BTC,skien,stats
goto start


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: philipma1957 on June 04, 2017, 02:58:26 AM
Miningpoolhub. I just downloaded nemosminer with alexis 78. Same result as my setup from before, will test for stability until morning.
You should clean up with all those ti's coming your way  :)

EDIT: replied to your pm btw

yeah he will I am doing very well at 11gh of hash on skein

Phil your last 24hrs look amazing! You're averaging 0.005020135 mBTC/MH/s



Do not know how many days this will last.

But it is very good.


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: JaredKaragen on June 04, 2017, 05:08:27 AM
...truncated...

Thanks for the help man, i would like to figure out how to add a few of the coins in the NemosMiner and get them working correctly. I just tried to delete all coins i dont want to mine from the password area, it would not run at all.. i had only 4 coins listed, Equihash, Lyra2REv2, Skein, and Lbyr

I noticed that Equihash is not in the pass line with the hashrates at all...

I tried running the miner seperate with custom batch file and it started just fine, just the coin doesnt start in the nemosminer....
Code:
:START
zminer.exe -a equihash -o stratum+tcp://equihash.mine.zpool.ca:2143 -u bitcoinwallet -p c=BTC,equihash,stats
goto start

Also, do you know how the algo determines when to switch coins based on profit? just want to understand more on how the batch file does this..


I believe there was an issue with equihash and the profit switching part of the stratum... I think it has a different stratum code and it wasn't working.

The pool's code selects the algo based on algo hashrate available, TTF, last time block found, exchange price, etc.... no way to command it;  thus the reason for my manual farm control batch... it's the next best thing to be able to swap to it at a whim.

remove equihash from the nemosminer batch and try again without... that's probably the issue.


To phil and the other guys;

I'm glad your feeling these epic good days like I am ;)   DGB >2300 is insanely profitable... but the coin difficulty went up quite a bit in response ;)


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: QuintLeo on June 04, 2017, 12:55:52 PM
I'm liking DGB the last couple weeks - on my A2 Scrypt miners.

 Made more with my 1070s and my 1080 doing something else though for the last week and most of the last month - though DGB-skein and DGB-groetsl were good money makers a lot of the month.



Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: oup59 on June 04, 2017, 10:17:58 PM
Have a newbie question:

When I mine with this:

ccminerAlexis78.exe -r 0 -a skein -o stratum+tcp://skein.mine.zpool.ca:4933 -u BTC_Address -p c=BTC,skein,stats

Do I mine DGB-Skein and deposit into my BTC wallet as BTC currency? I guess.

Can I insert my Polo DGB wallet address to where it says `BTC_Address` to deposit DGB directly without any internal auto exchange?

If not how can I mine DGB-Skein without conversion?

Thanks.




Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: Storx on June 04, 2017, 11:00:26 PM
Have a newbie question:

When I mine with this:

ccminerAlexis78.exe -r 0 -a skein -o stratum+tcp://skein.mine.zpool.ca:4933 -u BTC_Address -p c=BTC,skein,stats

Do I mine DGB-Skein and deposit into my BTC wallet as BTC currency? I guess.

Can I insert my Polo DGB wallet address to where it says `BTC_Address` to deposit DGB directly without any internal auto exchange?

If not how can I mine DGB-Skein without conversion?

Thanks.




From what i understand is you have to place your DGB currency wallet in "BTC_Address" and then change "c=BTC" to "c=DGB"


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: JaredKaragen on June 05, 2017, 01:19:55 AM
Have a newbie question:

When I mine with this:

ccminerAlexis78.exe -r 0 -a skein -o stratum+tcp://skein.mine.zpool.ca:4933 -u BTC_Address -p c=BTC,skein,stats

Do I mine DGB-Skein and deposit into my BTC wallet as BTC currency? I guess.

Can I insert my Polo DGB wallet address to where it says `BTC_Address` to deposit DGB directly without any internal auto exchange?

If not how can I mine DGB-Skein without conversion?

Thanks.




Its never a good idea to mine to an exchange wallet.   Always mine to a personal wallet and xfer to the exchange.  Problems can arise if you don't.

Some exchanges clearly state this on their wallet link page as well.

You can mine on zpool without conversion, just change payout address and payout type in the password field.


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: VoskCoin on June 05, 2017, 03:10:00 AM
Miningpoolhub. I just downloaded nemosminer with alexis 78. Same result as my setup from before, will test for stability until morning.
You should clean up with all those ti's coming your way  :)

EDIT: replied to your pm btw

Thanks for the PM I missed it. Settings look good I do same settings on clock and mem but my TDP is 75% not 100.

Have electrician installing the 30A next week so at least I can get a few more rigs online, then have to confirm with power company and city about a 200A upgrade. Then things will be a tiny bit better.
Where are you located and what's it costing for that, if you don't mind me asking xD


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: oup59 on June 05, 2017, 04:20:43 AM
Thanks for the info.
@Storx and @JaredKaragen

I managed 430 sols on skein with 980Ti 205W on the wall. System is like 50-60 when idle.

How good/bad is this?

I will mine some with this gpu until I get 1080Tis.


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: Akkim on June 05, 2017, 09:36:06 AM
Have a newbie question:

When I mine with this:

ccminerAlexis78.exe -r 0 -a skein -o stratum+tcp://skein.mine.zpool.ca:4933 -u BTC_Address -p c=BTC,skein,stats

Do I mine DGB-Skein and deposit into my BTC wallet as BTC currency? I guess.

Can I insert my Polo DGB wallet address to where it says `BTC_Address` to deposit DGB directly without any internal auto exchange?

If not how can I mine DGB-Skein without conversion?

Thanks.




Its never a good idea to mine to an exchange wallet.   Always mine to a personal wallet and xfer to the exchange.  Problems can arise if you don't.

Some exchanges clearly state this on their wallet link page as well.

You can mine on zpool without conversion, just change payout address and payout type in the password field.

How this is possible? Skein used 5 different currency, i can add 5 wallet into bath file? Or i can set ccminer to miner just one currency? what is the more profitable system? 
And why if i use exchange wallet i have problem?
For example I use yobit.net, which allows me to have an address for almost all coins, and has an internal exchange system.
You say it's best to open a "private" account for each coin, using a different wallet, and convert them later?
thanks for your time if you responde me, good luck bro ;)


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: QuintLeo on June 05, 2017, 09:51:11 AM

I managed 430 sols on skein with 980Ti 205W on the wall. System is like 50-60 when idle.

How good/bad is this?


 sols is a ZEC term - and that looks more like a ZEC hashrate than a Skein one (my 1070s were doing over 500 Mhash/sec on skein when I was checking it out and testing).

 430 would be a tossup on ZEC with a 1070, though you seem to be using somewhat more power (as to be expected from a Maxwell generation card).



Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: oup59 on June 05, 2017, 11:19:25 AM

I managed 430 sols on skein with 980Ti 205W on the wall. System is like 50-60 when idle.

How good/bad is this?


 sols is a ZEC term - and that looks more like a ZEC hashrate than a Skein one (my 1070s were doing over 500 Mhash/sec on skein when I was checking it out and testing).

 430 would be a tossup on ZEC with a 1070, though you seem to be using somewhat more power (as to be expected from a Maxwell generation card).



Opps.My bad. It is 430mh/s for skein. Actually did see 500ish mh/s for skein as well but power consumption was quite high.

I was running test with different settings  on different miners for ZEC and SKEIN to find an optimal gain for nowadays.

I am more inclined to Skein though. I aim to find a settings (tdp,core,mem etc...) to achieve 475-500 Mh/s for Skein and 430-460 Sol/s for ZEC with a power consumption
of 200-205 Wall with this single 980Ti. These values sounds good to me but I will see how possible they are.

A 1080Ti may give the double amount on Skein with such consumption but I got this used (1 year remaining warranty) 980Ti for 1/3 of the price of a 1080Ti.

I plan to get 1080Ti asap but this asap may not be very soon :) I just want my 980Ti work meanwhile.

 


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: grchina on June 05, 2017, 02:17:01 PM
I have a question for you guys,would you rather go for 2x1070 or for 1x1080 if space isnt a problem?


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: Vaccinus on June 05, 2017, 03:49:26 PM
I have a question for you guys,would you rather go for 2x1070 or for 1x1080 if space isnt a problem?

this question have not much sense, a 1080 don't cost like 2 x 1070, 2 x 1070 are far better in any case but cost much more, better comparison was 1 1080ti versus 2 x 1070


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: xleejohnx on June 05, 2017, 03:58:14 PM
I have a question for you guys,would you rather go for 2x1070 or for 1x1080 if space isnt a problem?

Get a 1080ti it's far worth more your time and money


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: grchina on June 05, 2017, 04:07:52 PM
I have a question for you guys,would you rather go for 2x1070 or for 1x1080 if space isnt a problem?

this question have not much sense, a 1080 don't cost like 2 x 1070, 2 x 1070 are far better in any case but cost much more, better comparison was 1 1080ti versus 2 x 1070
Ok here are examples with prices,i can get Gigabyte GTX 1070 G1 Gaming 8GB GDDR5 for 440,00 while Asus ROG Strix GTX 1080 8GB GDDR5X Gaming OC goes for 750,00 .ASUS ROG strix gtx 1080TI 11GB goes for 836,00 and MSI nVidia GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB 352bit GTX 1080 Ti GAMING X 11G for 816,00 ,as you can see i dont really have a wide choice for ti version.Also i found some posts where people are saying that 1070 cards are good for different coins to mine while 1080 cards(and ti versions)are just good for zec mining-would like someone to confirm or denie that consedering that there i cant really find alot of info about nvidia minning rigs


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: Storx on June 05, 2017, 06:05:55 PM
Thanks for the info.
@Storx and @JaredKaragen

I managed 430 sols on skein with 980Ti 205W on the wall. System is like 50-60 when idle.

How good/bad is this?

I will mine some with this gpu until I get 1080Tis.

I am not sure if your really mining Skein, sounds like Equihash or Zcash...
~ALL INFO IS USING 2 x 1080ti's~
When i first started mining on my gaming rig, i was using 591watts to get a Skein hashrate of 2033Mh/s because i was thinking overclocking is better... since then i have done so much research and now i have my 2 cards running after a few flashes running stable so far at 348watts and my hashrate went down to 1892Mh/s... but they produce about half as much heat and a lot less power over time...

One thing i have run into today tho since my NEW GPU's and PCIe risers came in the mail is the PCIe risers seem to not function on NVIDIA cards.. or i just got an entire box full of defective cards..  i have been trying to install the new GPU's in my old gaming rig to run them... all the cards work perfect in the PCIe x16/x8 slot.. but the x1 slots dont detect the GPU's and ive tried every riser i bought.. because i bought extras due to fail rates i have read about...

Ima take my main pc down sometime later after some errands and test the 1x slots on it.. as well im running over to a friends house who has 3 x (x1) slots on his motherboard.. gonna test them on his first since its easier to get to.. since my watercooling hard lines kinda blocks mine..


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: JaredKaragen on June 05, 2017, 08:52:52 PM
im not sure what risers you are using, but I have success with old ribbon style;  molex 4 pin, sata power, and PCIE power versions.  I own all of em....

I once thought I had bad risers, but actually it ended up being the bottom +12X pin grounding out to the casing bracket that was supporting them.....  so it was my fault in the end and I had to replace traces on 5 risers which work fine still......

FYI;  they need a power cable to the riser... this is a must-do.

To be absolutely sure:  unplug all GPU;  plug a riser into the main 16X slot; and plug the main gpu into that.  boot up with a monitor plugged into that GPU and no other GPU present;  should boot......


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: philipma1957 on June 06, 2017, 12:17:43 AM
im not sure what risers you are using, but I have success with old ribbon style;  molex 4 pin, sata power, and PCIE power versions.  I own all of em....

I once thought I had bad risers, but actually it ended up being the bottom +12X pin grounding out to the casing bracket that was supporting them.....  so it was my fault in the end and I had to replace traces on 5 risers which work fine still......

FYI;  they need a power cable to the riser... this is a must-do.

To be absolutely sure:  unplug all GPU;  plug a riser into the main 16X slot; and plug the main gpu into that.  boot up with a monitor plugged into that GPU and no other GPU present;  should boot......


If

I use  powered USB 3 risers.

I screw them into plywood.

Four #4 woods screws and four nylon spacers.

So the riser is 1/8 of an inch off the plywood.

No worries on shorts and that air space from the risers keeps the riser cooler.
I also use six pin pcie risers only.

And finally 1 riser and three slots for a four card build.

I almost never go past a four card build.

But the gigabyte z270 does run five cards very well. 3 slots 2 risers.


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: EvilMonkey on June 06, 2017, 04:22:54 AM
This thread has really helped me thanks for everyone that has posted their info.

I was mining Eth on 1080ti at 31 H/s  Stock settings and that was giving me US $6 per day before power (around $1.80 for power). (stock settings)

Then I switched to Zec @ 720 H/s and US $8.50 before power cost of $1.75.  (using EWBF)

This thread has really got me thinking of the alternatives.  Like DGB with skein or Groeslt.  But I am already pulling in similar results using EWBF and that is in the currency I want to earn.

Or I could even just try nicehash I guess.  See how it compares.

1080ti is not good for ETH but is great for Zec (Zcash) using EWBF which is super simple to get going with lots of good info and easy pools out there.

I would really like to try NHminer and alexis though.

Can anyone that is using both this and EWBF on a 1080ti post up what difference in earnings they are getting.  Like I mentioned earlier on a single card using EWBF with stock settings I am earning US $8.50 and using $1.75 per day in power.

I found the sweet spot for power on my card which was 60% TDP but because of the prices it was better to run it at stock settings as I could make $300 per year more after power costs.

Zec compared to Eth which I would prefer to be mining was going to give me $1000 per year more.

I am newish to mining but already looking at getting more gear, it is alot of fun.


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: Nalut on June 06, 2017, 05:23:03 AM
This thread has really helped me thanks for everyone that has posted their info.

I was mining Eth on 1080ti at 31 H/s  Stock settings and that was giving me US $6 per day before power (around $1.80 for power). (stock settings)

Then I switched to Zec @ 720 H/s and US $8.50 before power cost of $1.75.  (using EWBF)

This thread has really got me thinking of the alternatives.  Like DGB with skein or Groeslt.  But I am already pulling in similar results using EWBF and that is in the currency I want to earn.

Or I could even just try nicehash I guess.  See how it compares.

1080ti is not good for ETH but is great for Zec (Zcash) using EWBF which is super simple to get going with lots of good info and easy pools out there.

I would really like to try NHminer and alexis though.

Can anyone that is using both this and EWBF on a 1080ti post up what difference in earnings they are getting.  Like I mentioned earlier on a single card using EWBF with stock settings I am earning US $8.50 and using $1.75 per day in power.

I found the sweet spot for power on my card which was 60% TDP but because of the prices it was better to run it at stock settings as I could make $300 per year more after power costs.

Zec compared to Eth which I would prefer to be mining was going to give me $1000 per year more.

I am newish to mining but already looking at getting more gear, it is alot of fun.
First of all which ti brand you got ?
I believe people getting 1k sol/s doing skein "dgb coin" for $16 a day with ti gpu, using alexis ccminer.
Check previous posts of this topic.


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: oup59 on June 06, 2017, 05:34:56 AM
Thanks for the info.
@Storx and @JaredKaragen

I managed 430 sols on skein with 980Ti 205W on the wall. System is like 50-60 when idle.

How good/bad is this?

I will mine some with this gpu until I get 1080Tis.

I am not sure if your really mining Skein, sounds like Equihash or Zcash...
~ALL INFO IS USING 2 x 1080ti's~
When i first started mining on my gaming rig, i was using 591watts to get a Skein hashrate of 2033Mh/s because i was thinking overclocking is better... since then i have done so much research and now i have my 2 cards running after a few flashes running stable so far at 348watts and my hashrate went down to 1892Mh/s... but they produce about half as much heat and a lot less power over time...

One thing i have run into today tho since my NEW GPU's and PCIe risers came in the mail is the PCIe risers seem to not function on NVIDIA cards.. or i just got an entire box full of defective cards..  i have been trying to install the new GPU's in my old gaming rig to run them... all the cards work perfect in the PCIe x16/x8 slot.. but the x1 slots dont detect the GPU's and ive tried every riser i bought.. because i bought extras due to fail rates i have read about...

Ima take my main pc down sometime later after some errands and test the 1x slots on it.. as well im running over to a friends house who has 3 x (x1) slots on his motherboard.. gonna test them on his first since its easier to get to.. since my watercooling hard lines kinda blocks mine..

yes it was a typo  and should be mh/s not sol/s for this instance. 348 watts for 1892 Mh/s seems good to me. Which brand/model are these 1080Ti cards? What settings are you using to achieve such hash and consumption.

I am planning to get 2 1080Tis for Skein/Zec mining as well.

Thanks.


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: EvilMonkey on June 06, 2017, 06:14:14 AM
This thread has really helped me thanks for everyone that has posted their info.

I was mining Eth on 1080ti at 31 H/s  Stock settings and that was giving me US $6 per day before power (around $1.80 for power). (stock settings)

Then I switched to Zec @ 720 H/s and US $8.50 before power cost of $1.75.  (using EWBF)

This thread has really got me thinking of the alternatives.  Like DGB with skein or Groeslt.  But I am already pulling in similar results using EWBF and that is in the currency I want to earn.

Or I could even just try nicehash I guess.  See how it compares.

1080ti is not good for ETH but is great for Zec (Zcash) using EWBF which is super simple to get going with lots of good info and easy pools out there.

I would really like to try NHminer and alexis though.

Can anyone that is using both this and EWBF on a 1080ti post up what difference in earnings they are getting.  Like I mentioned earlier on a single card using EWBF with stock settings I am earning US $8.50 and using $1.75 per day in power.

I found the sweet spot for power on my card which was 60% TDP but because of the prices it was better to run it at stock settings as I could make $300 per year more after power costs.

Zec compared to Eth which I would prefer to be mining was going to give me $1000 per year more.

I am newish to mining but already looking at getting more gear, it is alot of fun.
First of all which ti brand you got ?
I believe people getting 1k sol/s doing skein "dgb coin" for $16 a day with ti gpu, using alexis ccminer.
Check previous posts of this topic.

I have an Aorus 11GB.  I did check the previous posts.  Wasn't that with 2x 1080ti  $16 per day not sure if that is before or after power. (looks like before)  I am making around half that on one.  And actually I saw it was less at $14.

I did see one person who had not dont proper testing saying after getting Skein working with alexus he was expected around $15 per day per card which did seem pretty good and at around 1000 H/s.  But again it wasnt really confirmed. 

That is near double what I am making so does seem worth it but was after more opinions and examples.   Looks like 720 Sol/s is equal to 500 sol/s mining DGB coin.  So if you can do 1000 on one card its almost twice as profitable.

I'd like to test it but it is little tricky trying to piece all the info together and get it going.


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: EvilMonkey on June 06, 2017, 06:40:03 AM
This thread has really helped me thanks for everyone that has posted their info.

I was mining Eth on 1080ti at 31 H/s  Stock settings and that was giving me US $6 per day before power (around $1.80 for power). (stock settings)

Then I switched to Zec @ 720 H/s and US $8.50 before power cost of $1.75.  (using EWBF)

This thread has really got me thinking of the alternatives.  Like DGB with skein or Groeslt.  But I am already pulling in similar results using EWBF and that is in the currency I want to earn.

Or I could even just try nicehash I guess.  See how it compares.

1080ti is not good for ETH but is great for Zec (Zcash) using EWBF which is super simple to get going with lots of good info and easy pools out there.

I would really like to try NHminer and alexis though.

Can anyone that is using both this and EWBF on a 1080ti post up what difference in earnings they are getting.  Like I mentioned earlier on a single card using EWBF with stock settings I am earning US $8.50 and using $1.75 per day in power.

I found the sweet spot for power on my card which was 60% TDP but because of the prices it was better to run it at stock settings as I could make $300 per year more after power costs.

Zec compared to Eth which I would prefer to be mining was going to give me $1000 per year more.

I am newish to mining but already looking at getting more gear, it is alot of fun.
First of all which ti brand you got ?
I believe people getting 1k sol/s doing skein "dgb coin" for $16 a day with ti gpu, using alexis ccminer.
Check previous posts of this topic.

I have an Aorus 11GB.  I did check the previous posts.  Wasn't that with 2x 1080ti  $16 per day not sure if that is before or after power. (looks like before)  I am making around half that on one.  And actually I saw it was less at $14.

I did see one person who had not dont proper testing saying after getting Skein working with alexus he was expected around $15 per day per card which did seem pretty good and at around 1000 H/s.  But again it wasnt really confirmed.  

That is near double what I am making so does seem worth it but was after more opinions and examples.   Looks like 720 Sol/s is equal to 500 sol/s mining DGB coin.  So if you can do 1000 on one card its almost twice as profitable.

I'd like to test it but it is little tricky trying to piece all the info together and get it going.

I got it going at stock Alexis78 and Skien only and it is doing around 1006 MH/s.  So that converts to around US $15.50 a day before any fees or power comes out.  I also did a few quick tests in nicehash and that was only really giving me $9 before power not sure if that includes fees.

So far Skein looks really really good.  I am just going to leave it going for 24 hours and see if I mine what I should mine. 

Is anyone leaving thier mined as DGB? I think I woiuld prefer to have DGB instead.


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: Storx on June 06, 2017, 06:42:08 PM
Thanks for the info.
@Storx and @JaredKaragen

I managed 430 sols on skein with 980Ti 205W on the wall. System is like 50-60 when idle.

How good/bad is this?

I will mine some with this gpu until I get 1080Tis.

I am not sure if your really mining Skein, sounds like Equihash or Zcash...
~ALL INFO IS USING 2 x 1080ti's~
When i first started mining on my gaming rig, i was using 591watts to get a Skein hashrate of 2033Mh/s because i was thinking overclocking is better... since then i have done so much research and now i have my 2 cards running after a few flashes running stable so far at 348watts and my hashrate went down to 1892Mh/s... but they produce about half as much heat and a lot less power over time...

One thing i have run into today tho since my NEW GPU's and PCIe risers came in the mail is the PCIe risers seem to not function on NVIDIA cards.. or i just got an entire box full of defective cards..  i have been trying to install the new GPU's in my old gaming rig to run them... all the cards work perfect in the PCIe x16/x8 slot.. but the x1 slots dont detect the GPU's and ive tried every riser i bought.. because i bought extras due to fail rates i have read about...

Ima take my main pc down sometime later after some errands and test the 1x slots on it.. as well im running over to a friends house who has 3 x (x1) slots on his motherboard.. gonna test them on his first since its easier to get to.. since my watercooling hard lines kinda blocks mine..

yes it was a typo  and should be mh/s not sol/s for this instance. 348 watts for 1892 Mh/s seems good to me. Which brand/model are these 1080Ti cards? What settings are you using to achieve such hash and consumption.

I am planning to get 2 1080Tis for Skein/Zec mining as well.

Thanks.

THe above numbers are on my Personal Gaming PC, which is 2 x MSI Armor GTX1080ti's on watercooling...

So numbers may be different on air, since my mining temps are 35-38c on water...



Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: EvilMonkey on June 06, 2017, 07:46:57 PM
Thanks for the info.
@Storx and @JaredKaragen

I managed 430 sols on skein with 980Ti 205W on the wall. System is like 50-60 when idle.

How good/bad is this?

I will mine some with this gpu until I get 1080Tis.

I am not sure if your really mining Skein, sounds like Equihash or Zcash...
~ALL INFO IS USING 2 x 1080ti's~
When i first started mining on my gaming rig, i was using 591watts to get a Skein hashrate of 2033Mh/s because i was thinking overclocking is better... since then i have done so much research and now i have my 2 cards running after a few flashes running stable so far at 348watts and my hashrate went down to 1892Mh/s... but they produce about half as much heat and a lot less power over time...

One thing i have run into today tho since my NEW GPU's and PCIe risers came in the mail is the PCIe risers seem to not function on NVIDIA cards.. or i just got an entire box full of defective cards..  i have been trying to install the new GPU's in my old gaming rig to run them... all the cards work perfect in the PCIe x16/x8 slot.. but the x1 slots dont detect the GPU's and ive tried every riser i bought.. because i bought extras due to fail rates i have read about...

Ima take my main pc down sometime later after some errands and test the 1x slots on it.. as well im running over to a friends house who has 3 x (x1) slots on his motherboard.. gonna test them on his first since its easier to get to.. since my watercooling hard lines kinda blocks mine..

yes it was a typo  and should be mh/s not sol/s for this instance. 348 watts for 1892 Mh/s seems good to me. Which brand/model are these 1080Ti cards? What settings are you using to achieve such hash and consumption.

I am planning to get 2 1080Tis for Skein/Zec mining as well.

Thanks.

THe above numbers are on my Personal Gaming PC, which is 2 x MSI Armor GTX1080ti's on watercooling...

So numbers may be different on air, since my mining temps are 35-38c on water...



Thanks I saw your numbers you just sounded a bit unsure.

I am getting around 985 on my single 1080ti.  I have under powered it slightly to keep the heat down.  My power is not much less than yours for a single card and I am running on air at 60C.   

The mining window locked up after around 3 hours so can't really see much results.  I did notice my CPU got upto 75C with Skein which is pretty high compared to other mining I have done.  It is a Ryzen 1600x with a mid to low range water cooler on it.

So more testing I guess.


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: QuintLeo on June 06, 2017, 11:03:04 PM

I got it going at stock Alexis78 and Skien only and it is doing around 1006 MH/s.  So that converts to around US $15.50 a day before any fees or power comes out.  I also did a few quick tests in nicehash and that was only really giving me $9 before power not sure if that includes fees.

So far Skein looks really really good.  I am just going to leave it going for 24 hours and see if I mine what I should mine. 

Is anyone leaving thier mined as DGB? I think I woiuld prefer to have DGB instead.

 DGB has a skein option, if you mine it directly via a pool like theblocksfactory (I think suprnova also has a DGB-skein pool, but not sure there - I do recall at least 2 other DGB-skein pools from listings).





Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: thebigjdoe on June 06, 2017, 11:12:19 PM
You guys have a link to alexis miner?  Just got 2x1080ti and getting only 600MH/s on suprnova dgbskien pool, this is with ccminer2.0


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: EvilMonkey on June 07, 2017, 01:01:12 AM
You guys have a link to alexis miner?  Just got 2x1080ti and getting only 600MH/s on suprnova dgbskien pool, this is with ccminer2.0

Someeone in posted a link in the middle of this thread.  Was bit tricky to find. Is a mega.nz link also grab the NH bat file and just change your address and its good to go.


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: Storx on June 07, 2017, 02:20:55 AM
You guys have a link to alexis miner?  Just got 2x1080ti and getting only 600MH/s on suprnova dgbskien pool, this is with ccminer2.0

Just google nemosminer zpool, download the zip file.. dont touch the batch file and just create your own with a simple single line using the pool info on the pool of your choice. The reason i say this is because it seems to mine multi algo using the nemosminer, you have to run your GPU at OEM stock settings which are stupidly inefficient at mining really..., but each algo uses the GPU in a different way.. so oem settings are basically the only ones stable on it...but your using a ton more energy and generating way more heat to utilize that benefit.

Once you learn how to optimize your GPU by tuning the clocks and voltage levels, you can get near stock hashrates (Money making ability) at a fraction of the energy and heat.. but in my short experience once you get one algo fully optimized, as soon as you try another algo its like a 50/50 if it will freeze up your pc...

So your best bet is to stick to one algo, and mine it at the most optimized settings to increase your profit margin....then maybe later experiment with others and come up with optimization settings that work best with them.. so if a day comes you need to switch coins, you can just stop the miner, change the gpu settings, then start the new coin....

Example the current optimal settings for my skein settings will immediately freeze up on zcash or lyra coins, which is the other 2 common nvidia coins to mine, then my zcash settings will freeze on attempting to mine skein, but my lyra2 settings will actually mine skein.. they are different animals, so different settings are needed.. if it is possible to create a batch that auto switches settings before starting the miner that would be amazing accomplishment.


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: thebigjdoe on June 07, 2017, 02:26:21 AM
You guys have a link to alexis miner?  Just got 2x1080ti and getting only 600MH/s on suprnova dgbskien pool, this is with ccminer2.0

Just google nemosminer zpool, download the zip file.. dont touch the batch file and just create your own with a simple single line using the pool info on the pool of your choice. The reason i say this is because it seems to mine multi algo using the nemosminer, you have to run your GPU at OEM stock settings which are stupidly inefficient at mining really..., but each algo uses the GPU in a different way.. so oem settings are basically the only ones stable on it...but your using a ton more energy and generating way more heat to utilize that benefit.

Once you learn how to optimize your GPU by tuning the clocks and voltage levels, you can get near stock hashrates (Money making ability) at a fraction of the energy and heat.. but in my short experience once you get one algo fully optimized, as soon as you try another algo its like a 50/50 if it will freeze up your pc...

So your best bet is to stick to one algo, and mine it at the most optimized settings to increase your profit margin....then maybe later experiment with others and come up with optimization settings that work best with them.. so if a day comes you need to switch coins, you can just stop the miner, change the gpu settings, then start the new coin....

Example the current optimal settings for my skein settings will immediately freeze up on zcash or lyra coins, which is the other 2 common nvidia coins to mine, then my zcash settings will freeze on attempting to mine skein, but my lyra2 settings will actually mine skein.. they are different animals, so different settings are needed.. if it is possible to create a batch that auto switches settings before starting the miner that would be amazing accomplishment.

Cool found it, thanks.  Getting about 915 per card with that miner on skein (suprnova pool) gigabyte gtx 1080ti


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: EvilMonkey on June 07, 2017, 02:47:37 AM
You guys have a link to alexis miner?  Just got 2x1080ti and getting only 600MH/s on suprnova dgbskien pool, this is with ccminer2.0

Just google nemosminer zpool, download the zip file.. dont touch the batch file and just create your own with a simple single line using the pool info on the pool of your choice. The reason i say this is because it seems to mine multi algo using the nemosminer, you have to run your GPU at OEM stock settings which are stupidly inefficient at mining really..., but each algo uses the GPU in a different way.. so oem settings are basically the only ones stable on it...but your using a ton more energy and generating way more heat to utilize that benefit.

Once you learn how to optimize your GPU by tuning the clocks and voltage levels, you can get near stock hashrates (Money making ability) at a fraction of the energy and heat.. but in my short experience once you get one algo fully optimized, as soon as you try another algo its like a 50/50 if it will freeze up your pc...

So your best bet is to stick to one algo, and mine it at the most optimized settings to increase your profit margin....then maybe later experiment with others and come up with optimization settings that work best with them.. so if a day comes you need to switch coins, you can just stop the miner, change the gpu settings, then start the new coin....

Example the current optimal settings for my skein settings will immediately freeze up on zcash or lyra coins, which is the other 2 common nvidia coins to mine, then my zcash settings will freeze on attempting to mine skein, but my lyra2 settings will actually mine skein.. they are different animals, so different settings are needed.. if it is possible to create a batch that auto switches settings before starting the miner that would be amazing accomplishment.

Thanks for the info, I forgot Nemosminer didn't do skein only I had copied yours or someone elses example of Skein only.   With just skein I found running at stock was actually the best value for mining if you only consider monitory returns even after power is taken out.

For example effeincient wise at TPD 60% my card is the most efficient power per MH/s wise.  But after taking into account the cost of power it was way better to mine at the higher rate as you got a better payoff.   I had to boost my fan to 80% speed to keep the temp at 60C. Money wise I will keep mining at stock speeds raised fan speed as that barely increases the Watts.
 


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: EvilMonkey on June 07, 2017, 04:27:09 AM
What CPU's are people using and what temperatures are they getting upto?  My Ryzen 5 1600x with a mid range water cooling is peaking at 80 deg sometimes.  Generally it sits around 60 C though.

This is 1080ti running ccmineralexis78 skein only.


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: chrysophylax on June 07, 2017, 04:33:30 AM
What CPU's are people using and what temperatures are they getting upto?  My Ryzen 5 1600x with a mid range water cooling is peaking at 80 deg sometimes.  Generally it sits around 60 C though.

This is 1080ti running ccmineralexis78 skein only.

what do you mean its a 1080ti? ...

#crysx


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: rednoW on June 07, 2017, 05:51:19 AM
Yes, effective nvidia mining is rather tricky and can be time consuming.
You need to fine tune for every card and every algo.
I have txt file with my findings cause it cannot be remembered. Also I use not only Afterburner but Palit Thundermaster too cause AB cannot do -1000 memory downclock.
Moreover sometimes you need to manually edit freq/voltage curve to get stable effective mode.
And last but not least for Palits gtx1070 I just use SuperJetStream card bioses with my simple Jetstreams and GameRocks as SJS seems to be the best to achieve good mining results.


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: EvilMonkey on June 07, 2017, 05:55:20 AM
What CPU's are people using and what temperatures are they getting upto?  My Ryzen 5 1600x with a mid range water cooling is peaking at 80 deg sometimes.  Generally it sits around 60 C though.

This is 1080ti running ccmineralexis78 skein only.

what do you mean its a 1080ti? ...

#crysx

Not really sure how to say it more clear but I was mining using ccmineralexis78 skein only on my 1080ti and my Ryzen 1600x water cooled CPU is getting pretty hot.  Even though its not really being utilized.


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: chrysophylax on June 07, 2017, 06:07:16 AM
What CPU's are people using and what temperatures are they getting upto?  My Ryzen 5 1600x with a mid range water cooling is peaking at 80 deg sometimes.  Generally it sits around 60 C though.

This is 1080ti running ccmineralexis78 skein only.

what do you mean its a 1080ti? ...

#crysx

Not really sure how to say it more clear but I was mining using ccmineralexis78 skein only on my 1080ti and my Ryzen 1600x water cooled CPU is getting pretty hot.  Even though its not really being utilized.

o ok ...

apologies ...

it seemed to me that the ryzen had somehow go to be 1080ti - or something ... never mind ... brainfart on my end :P ...

it doesnt have any effect on mining does it? ... this new chipset? ...

#crysx


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: chrysophylax on June 07, 2017, 06:08:19 AM
Yes, effective nvidia mining is rather tricky and can be time consuming.
You need to fine tune for every card and every algo.
I have txt file with my findings cause it cannot be remembered. Also I use not only Afterburner but Palit Thundermaster too cause AB cannot do -1000 memory downclock.
Moreover sometimes you need to manually edit freq/voltage curve to get stable effective mode.
And last but not least for Palits gtx1070 I just use SuperJetStream card bioses with my simple Jetstreams and GameRocks as SJS seems to be the best to achieve good mining results.

hehehe ...

i read your posts - as they are quite informative - and every time i do i forget that you are on windows ...

:P ...

#crysx


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: cashen on June 07, 2017, 06:28:14 AM
Which one for an 8 rig machine?

MSI GeForce GTX 1080 Ti FE DirectX 12 GTX 1080 Ti Founders Edition 11GB 352-Bit GDDR5X PCI Express 3.0 x16

Or

GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 1080 Ti DirectX 12 GV-N108TGAMING OC-11GD 11GB 352-Bit GDDR5X PCI


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: rednoW on June 07, 2017, 06:35:58 AM
2 evilmonkey

Latest fast ccminer's do utilize some shared memory techniques that put high stress on chipset when running rig with more than 4 gpus, I think. So if the mb bios or driver isn't tuned by vendor it leads to high CPU usage by windows "system" process that can lead to CPU heating. Is there a way to downvolt Ryzen?

I have similar problem with my asus z270-a but celeron g1900 is very lower power CPU especially with downvolt so this not bother me too much. My old socket am2+ rigs with amd 770 chipset are free from this problem thow


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: EvilMonkey on June 07, 2017, 07:35:35 AM
2 evilmonkey

Latest fast ccminer's do utilize some shared memory techniques that put high stress on chipset when running rig with more than 4 gpus, I think. So if the mb bios or driver isn't tuned by vendor it leads to high CPU usage by windows "system" process that can lead to CPU heating. Is there a way to downvolt Ryzen?

I have similar problem with my asus z270-a but celeron g1900 is very lower power CPU especially with downvolt so this not bother me too much. My old socket am2+ rigs with amd 770 chipset are free from this problem thow

Ok so turns out my CPU is not really getting hot.  Its staying around 40-45.  Was using CPUID HWmonitor and there is a bug with ryzens that is shows random peaks and also is always showing 20 C more than it should.  AMD ryzen master is showing the true stable value.  

I only have one Card ATM so the ultilization is low.


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: chrysophylax on June 07, 2017, 07:50:30 AM
Which one for an 8 rig machine?

MSI GeForce GTX 1080 Ti FE DirectX 12 GTX 1080 Ti Founders Edition 11GB 352-Bit GDDR5X PCI Express 3.0 x16

Or

GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 1080 Ti DirectX 12 GV-N108TGAMING OC-11GD 11GB 352-Bit GDDR5X PCI

8 gpu? ...

we build 5gpu max - aorus 1080ti extreme ...

even though it has the capacity for 6 - we have always come across problems with it ... though havent tries lately with the newest drivers ... as for 8gpu - you need a server borad that allows for memory allocation for the 8gpu in the bios from what we have researched ...

#crysx


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: VyprBTC on June 07, 2017, 07:59:33 AM
Which one for an 8 rig machine?

MSI GeForce GTX 1080 Ti FE DirectX 12 GTX 1080 Ti Founders Edition 11GB 352-Bit GDDR5X PCI Express 3.0 x16

Or

GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 1080 Ti DirectX 12 GV-N108TGAMING OC-11GD 11GB 352-Bit GDDR5X PCI

8 gpu? ...

we build 5gpu max - aorus 1080ti extreme ...

even though it has the capacity for 6 - we have always come across problems with it ... though havent tries lately with the newest drivers ... as for 8gpu - you need a server borad that allows for memory allocation for the 8gpu in the bios from what we have researched ...

#crysx

u have pix of 5 gpu aurus builds? definitely intersted! sounds awesome! I'm up to >40 1080Ti's now, have about 10 different cards but not a single aurus - i've been staying away because i'm scared of teh 3 slots it takes up -

I'm pretty much maxed out now but I am hoping to get another few locations to add a "few" more cards. maybe trying to expand too fast but IMO no such thing. go hard or go home



Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: EvilMonkey on June 07, 2017, 08:55:31 AM
Which one for an 8 rig machine?

MSI GeForce GTX 1080 Ti FE DirectX 12 GTX 1080 Ti Founders Edition 11GB 352-Bit GDDR5X PCI Express 3.0 x16

Or

GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 1080 Ti DirectX 12 GV-N108TGAMING OC-11GD 11GB 352-Bit GDDR5X PCI

8 gpu? ...

we build 5gpu max - aorus 1080ti extreme ...

even though it has the capacity for 6 - we have always come across problems with it ... though havent tries lately with the newest drivers ... as for 8gpu - you need a server borad that allows for memory allocation for the 8gpu in the bios from what we have researched ...

#crysx

u have pix of 5 gpu aurus builds? definitely intersted! sounds awesome! I'm up to >40 1080Ti's now, have about 10 different cards but not a single aurus - i've been staying away because i'm scared of teh 3 slots it takes up -

I'm pretty much maxed out now but I am hoping to get another few locations to add a "few" more cards. maybe trying to expand too fast but IMO no such thing. go hard or go home



I just got back into mining after ages away and must say it is pretty fun when first starting out and I was initiatlly disapointed in the 1080ti aorus until I found threads like this one and I am definately thinking about getting some more... but 40 .. how do you have all that setup?  That is like almost 40k worth of gear.


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: Vaccinus on June 07, 2017, 09:35:15 AM
Which one for an 8 rig machine?

MSI GeForce GTX 1080 Ti FE DirectX 12 GTX 1080 Ti Founders Edition 11GB 352-Bit GDDR5X PCI Express 3.0 x16

Or

GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 1080 Ti DirectX 12 GV-N108TGAMING OC-11GD 11GB 352-Bit GDDR5X PCI

8 gpu? ...

we build 5gpu max - aorus 1080ti extreme ...

even though it has the capacity for 6 - we have always come across problems with it ... though havent tries lately with the newest drivers ... as for 8gpu - you need a server borad that allows for memory allocation for the 8gpu in the bios from what we have researched ...

#crysx

is the gigabyte 1080ti extreme better than the palit super jet stream? just to know if i did the correct choice by buying the palit, or maybe the giga is now better? how many slot the giga is?


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: oup59 on June 07, 2017, 10:30:31 AM
I prefer to keep full system load around/under at most %80 of PSU capacity.

May rig 4 x1080Ti or 3x1080Ti and 1 GTX1080/1070?

Does a 1000 Platinum PSU such as Corsair HX1000i enough for such a setup?

It sounds like this setup will/can exceed 800Watts on the wall.

But if I optimize hash rate and power consumption, would it be OK?






Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: KaydenC on June 07, 2017, 01:51:17 PM
I prefer to keep full system load around/under at most %80 of PSU capacity.

May rig 4 x1080Ti or 3x1080Ti and 1 GTX1080/1070?

Does a 1000 Platinum PSU such as Corsair HX1000i enough for such a setup?

It sounds like this setup will/can exceed 800Watts on the wall.

But if I optimize hash rate and power consumption, would it be OK?






Its fine to go to 95% of capacity, just buy a reputable brand like corsair, evga and such.


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: philipma1957 on June 07, 2017, 02:58:34 PM
I prefer to keep full system load around/under at most %80 of PSU capacity.

May rig 4 x1080Ti or 3x1080Ti and 1 GTX1080/1070?

Does a 1000 Platinum PSU such as Corsair HX1000i enough for such a setup?

It sounds like this setup will/can exceed 800Watts on the wall.

But if I optimize hash rate and power consumption, would it be OK?





if you run 4 1080ti's at 100& tdp it could be about 1060-1100 watts for whole system
if you run 4 1080ti's at 80% tdp  it could be about 850-900 watts for whole system
if you run 4 1080 ti's at 70% tdp it could be about 750 -800 watts

now some 1080ti's are jacked up to start the aorus is based on 300 watts so:
 4 at 100 % = say 1250-1300 for whole system
 4 at 80%   =  about 1010-1110 for whole system
 4 at 70%  = about    890-940  for whole system
 


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: lexele on June 07, 2017, 03:28:59 PM
I have 1070 aorus and the're very cool under load (first time I started it I thought the ventirad was broken :-D),
 what about the Aorus 1080ti?


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: oup59 on June 07, 2017, 05:18:24 PM

if you run 4 1080ti's at 100& tdp it could be about 1060-1100 watts for whole system
if you run 4 1080ti's at 80% tdp  it could be about 850-900 watts for whole system
if you run 4 1080 ti's at 70% tdp it could be about 750 -800 watts

now some 1080ti's are jacked up to start the aorus is based on 300 watts so:
 4 at 100 % = say 1250-1300 for whole system
 4 at 80%   =  about 1010-1110 for whole system
 4 at 70%  = about    890-940  for whole system
 

Thank you very much for the breakdown.

Is the decrease in power consumption necessarily proportional to losing hash rate as well?

If yes I may prefer 1080 rather than 1080Ti.

Although I plan to get 3 1080Ti initially, I may add another one when these cards mine and gain some money.

So far 1080Ti looks really good on SKEIN. Also Nvidia cards are good on ZEC.


I was planning to utilize my own gaming PC and buy 2x1080Ti but changed my mind and plan to set up a dedicated Nvidia Rig. For such a rig:

Is a cheap AMD mobo and cpu fine such as Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3 or even maybe a Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4 with enough PCIE slots for 3-4 1080Tis?

For sooner ROI I prefer to get cheaper components that will do the job for mobo, cpu and RAM.



Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: EvilMonkey on June 07, 2017, 08:39:18 PM

if you run 4 1080ti's at 100& tdp it could be about 1060-1100 watts for whole system
if you run 4 1080ti's at 80% tdp  it could be about 850-900 watts for whole system
if you run 4 1080 ti's at 70% tdp it could be about 750 -800 watts

now some 1080ti's are jacked up to start the aorus is based on 300 watts so:
 4 at 100 % = say 1250-1300 for whole system
 4 at 80%   =  about 1010-1110 for whole system
 4 at 70%  = about    890-940  for whole system
 

Thank you very much for the breakdown.

Is the decrease in power consumption necessarily proportional to losing hash rate as well?

If yes I may prefer 1080 rather than 1080Ti.

Although I plan to get 3 1080Ti initially, I may add another one when these cards mine and gain some money.

So far 1080Ti looks really good on SKEIN. Also Nvidia cards are good on ZEC.


I was planning to utilize my own gaming PC and buy 2x1080Ti but changed my mind and plan to set up a dedicated Nvidia Rig. For such a rig:

Is a cheap AMD mobo and cpu fine such as Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3 or even maybe a Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4 with enough PCIE slots for 3-4 1080Tis?

For sooner ROI I prefer to get cheaper components that will do the job for mobo, cpu and RAM.



The 1080 Ti is very effiecient as far as power per Hashing power in Skein.  For example at 55% TDP my aorus is most effienceint at 55% but only like very very slightly.  All the way upto 75% it was similar effieciency. It started to drop off at around 80% and dropped off even more at 100% stock.

At 55% I was getting 821 MH/s,  At 80% I am getting 947 MH/s and at 100% I am getting 1009.

The thing is even with the Efficiency better at a lower rate it was ALWAYS better to run it at the highest Hash rate because the return is higher because of the price of power and the return you are getting.  So you need to do some testing and put your numbers into a calcuater.  I run a 90% to keep the heat down.


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: oup59 on June 08, 2017, 05:31:50 AM

The 1080 Ti is very effiecient as far as power per Hashing power in Skein.  For example at 55% TDP my aorus is most effienceint at 55% but only like very very slightly.  All the way upto 75% it was similar effieciency. It started to drop off at around 80% and dropped off even more at 100% stock.

At 55% I was getting 821 MH/s,  At 80% I am getting 947 MH/s and at 100% I am getting 1009.

The thing is even with the Efficiency better at a lower rate it was ALWAYS better to run it at the highest Hash rate because the return is higher because of the price of power and the return you are getting.  So you need to do some testing and put your numbers into a calcuater.  I run a 90% to keep the heat down.
Appreciate the feedback.

What is wall reading on %55TDP of 821Mh/s and on %80 for 947 Mh/s?

Does it directly/approximately correlate as with default TDP (%100 and 250W) to reduced TDP by X percent so wall is 250*X Watts.

Another thing that got my  attention is that, maybe a coincidence, Auros 1080Ti is preferred by many for 1080Ti mining as far I seen in the threads and post.
I may give it a shot as well.


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: Storx on June 08, 2017, 07:30:45 AM

The 1080 Ti is very effiecient as far as power per Hashing power in Skein.  For example at 55% TDP my aorus is most effienceint at 55% but only like very very slightly.  All the way upto 75% it was similar effieciency. It started to drop off at around 80% and dropped off even more at 100% stock.

At 55% I was getting 821 MH/s,  At 80% I am getting 947 MH/s and at 100% I am getting 1009.

The thing is even with the Efficiency better at a lower rate it was ALWAYS better to run it at the highest Hash rate because the return is higher because of the price of power and the return you are getting.  So you need to do some testing and put your numbers into a calcuater.  I run a 90% to keep the heat down.
Appreciate the feedback.

What is wall reading on %55TDP of 821Mh/s and on %80 for 947 Mh/s?

Does it directly/approximately correlate as with default TDP (%100 and 250W) to reduced TDP by X percent so wall is 250*X Watts.

Another thing that got my  attention is that, maybe a coincidence, Auros 1080Ti is preferred by many for 1080Ti mining as far I seen in the threads and post.
I may give it a shot as well.

Actually its a multitude of things that go into, especially when you have multi gpu setups.. for example
My 2 x 1080ti rig is running on the stock oem fans.. with settings at 70% tdp, when you look at the multiple cards each one will be running at different rates more than likely.. for example...

GPU0 TDP70%, actual usage TDP63%, fanspeed 68%(Auto) to maintain 69c temp limit. card mines at 69c
GPU1 TDP70%, actual usage TDP70%, fanspeed 51%(Auto) to maintain 69c temp limit. card mines at 58c

If you realise the program is not forcing the GPU to 70%, what it is doing is checking all of the settings you changed, it goes down the list if ANY of the numbers = (Equal) or are greater than the numbers you set, it performs internal throttling. So in the example above my GPU0, because temp limit is hit, it pulls voltage automatic tell temp limit is reached along with raising fan speeds.. it will go back and forth and finely increase the both tell the limit is hit again and then maintains at that point it seems..

So if i go under GPU0 and manual change ONLY that card to 79c limit. because the gpu is capable to maintain temperature of 77/78c at TDP70%, it will gradually raise the actual wattage used and stop when TDP is reached.. in my case the card temp sits at 77/78c, which i really dont care for.. so i force it to stay below 69c by changing the limit to 69c... which brings the usage back down to 63% TDP... the reason the first card is suffering is because i currently have them sitting next to each other in a mid atx case, which is causing the exhaust air of GPU1 to mostly be intaked on GPU0, so GPU0 suffers because its being cooled by hotter air...

One thing to note is once you set fan speed to manual you remove stage 1 throttling, which is what i explained to you above. The cards i have, have a built in throttle which is the manufactures max card temp, which throttles the core, mem, and voltage back based on a sliding scale... so if stage 2 throttling starts, it automatically overrides anything stage 1 throttle is performing to attempt to prevent damage to the card.


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: oup59 on June 08, 2017, 08:10:37 AM

The 1080 Ti is very effiecient as far as power per Hashing power in Skein.  For example at 55% TDP my aorus is most effienceint at 55% but only like very very slightly.  All the way upto 75% it was similar effieciency. It started to drop off at around 80% and dropped off even more at 100% stock.

At 55% I was getting 821 MH/s,  At 80% I am getting 947 MH/s and at 100% I am getting 1009.

The thing is even with the Efficiency better at a lower rate it was ALWAYS better to run it at the highest Hash rate because the return is higher because of the price of power and the return you are getting.  So you need to do some testing and put your numbers into a calcuater.  I run a 90% to keep the heat down.
Appreciate the feedback.

What is wall reading on %55TDP of 821Mh/s and on %80 for 947 Mh/s?

Does it directly/approximately correlate as with default TDP (%100 and 250W) to reduced TDP by X percent so wall is 250*X Watts.

Another thing that got my  attention is that, maybe a coincidence, Auros 1080Ti is preferred by many for 1080Ti mining as far I seen in the threads and post.
I may give it a shot as well.

Actually its a multitude of things that go into, especially when you have multi gpu setups.. for example
My 2 x 1080ti rig is running on the stock oem fans.. with settings at 70% tdp, when you look at the multiple cards each one will be running at different rates more than likely.. for example...

GPU0 TDP70%, actual usage TDP63%, fanspeed 68%(Auto) to maintain 69c temp limit. card mines at 69c
GPU1 TDP70%, actual usage TDP70%, fanspeed 51%(Auto) to maintain 69c temp limit. card mines at 58c

If you realise the program is not forcing the GPU to 70%, what it is doing is checking all of the settings you changed, it goes down the list if ANY of the numbers = (Equal) or are greater than the numbers you set, it performs internal throttling. So in the example above my GPU0, because temp limit is hit, it pulls voltage automatic tell temp limit is reached along with raising fan speeds.. it will go back and forth and finely increase the both tell the limit is hit again and then maintains at that point it seems..

So if i go under GPU0 and manual change ONLY that card to 79c limit. because the gpu is capable to maintain temperature of 77/78c at TDP70%, it will gradually raise the actual wattage used and stop when TDP is reached.. in my case the card temp sits at 77/78c, which i really dont care for.. so i force it to stay below 69c by changing the limit to 69c... which brings the usage back down to 63% TDP... the reason the first card is suffering is because i currently have them sitting next to each other in a mid atx case, which is causing the exhaust air of GPU1 to mostly be intaked on GPU0, so GPU0 suffers because its being cooled by hotter air...

One thing to note is once you set fan speed to manual you remove stage 1 throttling, which is what i explained to you above. The cards i have, have a built in throttle which is the manufactures max card temp, which throttles the core, mem, and voltage back based on a sliding scale... so if stage 2 throttling starts, it automatically overrides anything stage 1 throttle is performing to attempt to prevent damage to the card.


Thank you very much. This is really informative.


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: EvilMonkey on June 08, 2017, 12:06:01 PM

The 1080 Ti is very effiecient as far as power per Hashing power in Skein.  For example at 55% TDP my aorus is most effienceint at 55% but only like very very slightly.  All the way upto 75% it was similar effieciency. It started to drop off at around 80% and dropped off even more at 100% stock.

At 55% I was getting 821 MH/s,  At 80% I am getting 947 MH/s and at 100% I am getting 1009.

The thing is even with the Efficiency better at a lower rate it was ALWAYS better to run it at the highest Hash rate because the return is higher because of the price of power and the return you are getting.  So you need to do some testing and put your numbers into a calcuater.  I run a 90% to keep the heat down.
Appreciate the feedback.

What is wall reading on %55TDP of 821Mh/s and on %80 for 947 Mh/s?

Does it directly/approximately correlate as with default TDP (%100 and 250W) to reduced TDP by X percent so wall is 250*X Watts.

Another thing that got my  attention is that, maybe a coincidence, Auros 1080Ti is preferred by many for 1080Ti mining as far I seen in the threads and post.
I may give it a shot as well.

I have an auros and I am just using one card.  I find that is better to crank the fan speed than lower the TPD but some people will have to do both depending on their setup.  I do have the numbers for you but it includes say maybe 100 Watts for 2xLCD and cpu hdds etc. I could work out the actual power for just the card but I don't really have a use for that figure.

So at 100% stock but fan at 90% It is using 350 Watt.  At 50% 35% fan speed it is using 200W.  At 70 with 65% fan it is using 260 W.  So it is all relative.  I set my fan speed to keep the GPU temp under 60C and I set the limit at 65C so if it goes over that it will throttle it down a bit more. But so far all those settings it stays under 60.



Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: EvilMonkey on June 08, 2017, 12:15:30 PM
Ok to everyone using zpool.  My hash rate is super stable @ 980-1030.  So I set it going for 12 or 24 hours and calculate based off a conservative 950MH/s.  Most of the time it comes back pretty spot on.  Other times it is like 2 or three hours just disappeared randomly.

Is  this some kind of lag or something?

Sometimes it seems fine other times not.   WHen its not there is usually big chunks in the graph like this.

http://imgur.com/a/MedMW

I Have literally watched it mining for hours on end while I game or TV or whatever and never seen it drop below 1000 if I am not touching it.  Is this just a bug on zpool and it will catch up? because sometimes it seems like there is more in there than I could have possibly mined.  I know some of the reasons why this may happen but there is a real shortage of info on how it all works.   Anyone have some good links?

I am going to re-read this thread as I know someone  posted some good info on here but I got a bit confused by it really.


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: oup59 on June 08, 2017, 01:07:30 PM

I have an auros and I am just using one card.  I find that is better to crank the fan speed than lower the TPD but some people will have to do both depending on their setup.  I do have the numbers for you but it includes say maybe 100 Watts for 2xLCD and cpu hdds etc. I could work out the actual power for just the card but I don't really have a use for that figure.

So at 100% stock but fan at 90% It is using 350 Watt.  At 50% 35% fan speed it is using 200W.  At 70 with 65% fan it is using 260 W.  So it is all relative.  I set my fan speed to keep the GPU temp under 60C and I set the limit at 65C so if it goes over that it will throttle it down a bit more. But so far all those settings it stays under 60.


Thank you ver much for the numbers? Can you give hashrates for these wattage values as well?


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: KaydenC on June 08, 2017, 01:14:55 PM
Ok to everyone using zpool.  My hash rate is super stable @ 980-1030.  So I set it going for 12 or 24 hours and calculate based off a conservative 950MH/s.  Most of the time it comes back pretty spot on.  Other times it is like 2 or three hours just disappeared randomly.

Is  this some kind of lag or something?

Sometimes it seems fine other times not.   WHen its not there is usually big chunks in the graph like this.

http://imgur.com/a/MedMW

I Have literally watched it mining for hours on end while I game or TV or whatever and never seen it drop below 1000 if I am not touching it.  Is this just a bug on zpool and it will catch up? because sometimes it seems like there is more in there than I could have possibly mined.  I know some of the reasons why this may happen but there is a real shortage of info on how it all works.   Anyone have some good links?

I am going to re-read this thread as I know someone  posted some good info on here but I got a bit confused by it really.


Seems like something was down (the pool, your internet/rig, etc) for that period. I have the issue too, sometimes it just shows stratum connection errors and keeps retrying. I have since switched to miningpoolhub from zpool.


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: daemonfox on June 08, 2017, 01:57:09 PM
Just for reference, I have a 4U 3X EVGA 1080 TI FE rig, OCd and tuned, pumping over 2200 sols @ 885 watts on the kill a watt meter.

Stable and hashing away for a week now. Evan dumped it on ZEN for a few days and snagged some coin.

My temps arent ideal... my garage is NOT a decent place to host in the summer... but I have a COLO rack opening in a few days and that will stabilize my temps.

885 with overhead isn't too bad IMO... its on an i7 6700K with a water cooler and extra drive space so it will also be acting as a node... so there are a few extra watts being pulled that could be trimmed by low end CPU, cooler and an SSD.

Otherwise, the above rig pulls in at least $25 a day at current rates and I never cash out at calced rates. On ZEN it made $60 a day easy till yesterday.


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: EvilMonkey on June 08, 2017, 07:12:48 PM
Ok to everyone using zpool.  My hash rate is super stable @ 980-1030.  So I set it going for 12 or 24 hours and calculate based off a conservative 950MH/s.  Most of the time it comes back pretty spot on.  Other times it is like 2 or three hours just disappeared randomly.

Is  this some kind of lag or something?

Sometimes it seems fine other times not.   WHen its not there is usually big chunks in the graph like this.

http://imgur.com/a/MedMW

I Have literally watched it mining for hours on end while I game or TV or whatever and never seen it drop below 1000 if I am not touching it.  Is this just a bug on zpool and it will catch up? because sometimes it seems like there is more in there than I could have possibly mined.  I know some of the reasons why this may happen but there is a real shortage of info on how it all works.   Anyone have some good links?

I am going to re-read this thread as I know someone  posted some good info on here but I got a bit confused by it really.


Seems like something was down (the pool, your internet/rig, etc) for that period. I have the issue too, sometimes it just shows stratum connection errors and keeps retrying. I have since switched to miningpoolhub from zpool.

Ok thanks.

Nothing on my end has gone down I have things monitoring that and other setups that havn't missed a beat.  I couldn't go back far enough in the buffer to see if there was errors showing I will leave it going and monitor it and try and see if errors come up.  I lost another 1 hour last night on the graph.  It stops for an hour then keeps going.


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: Storx on June 08, 2017, 07:18:20 PM
Ok to everyone using zpool.  My hash rate is super stable @ 980-1030.  So I set it going for 12 or 24 hours and calculate based off a conservative 950MH/s.  Most of the time it comes back pretty spot on.  Other times it is like 2 or three hours just disappeared randomly.

Is  this some kind of lag or something?

Sometimes it seems fine other times not.   WHen its not there is usually big chunks in the graph like this.

http://imgur.com/a/MedMW

I Have literally watched it mining for hours on end while I game or TV or whatever and never seen it drop below 1000 if I am not touching it.  Is this just a bug on zpool and it will catch up? because sometimes it seems like there is more in there than I could have possibly mined.  I know some of the reasons why this may happen but there is a real shortage of info on how it all works.   Anyone have some good links?

I am going to re-read this thread as I know someone  posted some good info on here but I got a bit confused by it really.


Seems like something was down (the pool, your internet/rig, etc) for that period. I have the issue too, sometimes it just shows stratum connection errors and keeps retrying. I have since switched to miningpoolhub from zpool.

Ok thanks.

Nothing on my end has gone down I have things monitoring that and other setups that havn't missed a beat.  I couldn't go back far enough in the buffer to see if there was errors showing I will leave it going and monitor it and try and see if errors come up.  I lost another 1 hour last night on the graph.  It stops for an hour then keeps going.

From the twitter messages, it seems Zpool was targeted by DDOS yesterday for a period.. thus the report servers were down.. but the hashrates mined were still maintained via the Cloud server setup they have in place as backup.. it just doesnt have the reporting side on the cloud servers....


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: EvilMonkey on June 08, 2017, 07:43:03 PM
Just for reference, I have a 4U 3X EVGA 1080 TI FE rig, OCd and tuned, pumping over 2200 sols @ 885 watts on the kill a watt meter.

Stable and hashing away for a week now. Evan dumped it on ZEN for a few days and snagged some coin.

My temps arent ideal... my garage is NOT a decent place to host in the summer... but I have a COLO rack opening in a few days and that will stabilize my temps.

885 with overhead isn't too bad IMO... its on an i7 6700K with a water cooler and extra drive space so it will also be acting as a node... so there are a few extra watts being pulled that could be trimmed by low end CPU, cooler and an SSD.

Otherwise, the above rig pulls in at least $25 a day at current rates and I never cash out at calced rates. On ZEN it made $60 a day easy till yesterday.

What is ZEN?  Sorry just got back into mining so dont know all the terms yet.  So your setup you are ming Zec(Zcash)?  Are you using EWBF?  That matches up with  my mining stats.  I was pulling around 720 Sol on a single 1080ti Auros @ around 300 Watt total system.   You should try ccmineralexis78 Skein only.  I was mining Zec and found switching over raised my profits by 30% or more for now.  I want to get some more cards and get a setup like yours going.


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: Vaccinus on June 09, 2017, 08:03:17 AM
it seems that the best 1080ti is the asus strix, has best cooling and it's not so loud, the next one is EVGA extreme

Just for reference, I have a 4U 3X EVGA 1080 TI FE rig, OCd and tuned, pumping over 2200 sols @ 885 watts on the kill a watt meter.

Stable and hashing away for a week now. Evan dumped it on ZEN for a few days and snagged some coin.

My temps arent ideal... my garage is NOT a decent place to host in the summer... but I have a COLO rack opening in a few days and that will stabilize my temps.

885 with overhead isn't too bad IMO... its on an i7 6700K with a water cooler and extra drive space so it will also be acting as a node... so there are a few extra watts being pulled that could be trimmed by low end CPU, cooler and an SSD.

Otherwise, the above rig pulls in at least $25 a day at current rates and I never cash out at calced rates. On ZEN it made $60 a day easy till yesterday.

What is ZEN?  Sorry just got back into mining so dont know all the terms yet.  So your setup you are ming Zec(Zcash)?  Are you using EWBF?  That matches up with  my mining stats.  I was pulling around 720 Sol on a single 1080ti Auros @ around 300 Watt total system.   You should try ccmineralexis78 Skein only.  I was mining Zec and found switching over raised my profits by 30% or more for now.  I want to get some more cards and get a setup like yours going.

zen is a copy paste of zcash, another equihash clone with good profitability, it was good because you would get 1:1 with zclassic swap, back to a certain number of block mined


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: lexele on June 10, 2017, 08:43:00 PM
it seems that the best 1080ti is the asus strix, has best cooling and it's not so loud, the next one is EVGA extreme


What is ZEN?  Sorry just got back into mining so dont know all the terms yet.  So your setup you are ming Zec(Zcash)?  Are you using EWBF?  That matches up with  my mining stats.  I was pulling around 720 Sol on a single 1080ti Auros @ around 300 Watt total system.   You should try ccmineralexis78 Skein only.  I was mining Zec and found switching over raised my profits by 30% or more for now.  I want to get some more cards and get a setup like yours going.

zen is a copy paste of zcash, another equihash clone with good profitability, it was good because you would get 1:1 with zclassic swap, back to a certain number of block mined

Actually, Zen is a fork of Zclassic and is supposed to diverge from Zcash code unlike Zclassic.


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: cashen on June 10, 2017, 11:37:20 PM
Just finished my Beast Mode Build today.

8 x 1080 TIs.

very clean build.


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: jimmykl on June 11, 2017, 03:31:24 AM
Just finished my Beast Mode Build today.

8 x 1080 TIs.

very clean build.

 :o

Details? Esp. power supply config! And how is it performing?


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: daemonfox on June 11, 2017, 12:17:53 PM
Just finished my Beast Mode Build today.

8 x 1080 TIs.

very clean build.

 :o

Details? Esp. power supply config! And how is it performing?

A pair of 1300s can handle this easily and without risers. Those Asrock boards with 4 PCIe X16s man...

You could def build this in rackmount form in a pair of 4 ups with those boards... the GTX 1080s fit and run nicely!


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: chrysophylax on June 11, 2017, 12:21:59 PM
Just finished my Beast Mode Build today.

8 x 1080 TIs.

very clean build.

we would be very interested in the details ...

especially connectivity - models and specs of equipment and configuration ...

8 is never easy to build - and that would have been a specific way to build ...

share all details please? ...

#crysx


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: rednoW on June 11, 2017, 01:19:22 PM
Just finished my Beast Mode Build today.

8 x 1080 TIs.

very clean build.

we would be very interested in the details ...

especially connectivity - models and specs of equipment and configuration ...

8 is never easy to build - and that would have been a specific way to build ...

share all details please? ...

#crysx
I think he did 2 rigs per 4 1080ti ))


Title: Re: GTX1080ti's: Better Options?
Post by: chrysophylax on June 11, 2017, 03:05:42 PM
Just finished my Beast Mode Build today.

8 x 1080 TIs.

very clean build.

we would be very interested in the details ...

especially connectivity - models and specs of equipment and configuration ...

8 is never easy to build - and that would have been a specific way to build ...

share all details please? ...

#crysx
I think he did 2 rigs per 4 1080ti ))

o ok ...

tanx mate ...

the safest we have currently in one system is 5 x gigabyte aorus 1080ti extreme ...

the moment a 6th goes on - it refuses to work with the nvidia drivers ...

#crysx