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Title: Venezuela future dictatorship
Post by: killgald on June 01, 2017, 10:02:52 PM
Nowadays the president of Venezuela is trying to remake the constitution of the country to changed it at his will and benefict without the opinion and voted of the people of the country, this is an opened declare of a dictatorship in this country, what are your opinion abuot all this?


Title: Re: Venezuela future dictatorship
Post by: Sithara007 on June 02, 2017, 03:40:29 AM
Nowadays the president of Venezuela is trying to remake the constitution of the country to changed it at his will and benefict without the opinion and voted of the people of the country, this is an opened declare of a dictatorship in this country, what are your opinion abuot all this?

He lost the parliamentary elections a few months back, which itself proves that he does not have the majority support (the opposition won close to two-thirds of the seats). The best option for Maduro might be to step down, and to call early presidential elections.


Title: Re: Venezuela future dictatorship
Post by: Daniel91 on June 02, 2017, 03:11:04 PM
Nowadays the president of Venezuela is trying to remake the constitution of the country to changed it at his will and benefict without the opinion and voted of the people of the country, this is an opened declare of a dictatorship in this country, what are your opinion abuot all this?

He lost the parliamentary elections a few months back, which itself proves that he does not have the majority support (the opposition won close to two-thirds of the seats). The best option for Maduro might be to step down, and to call early presidential elections.

He lost the parliamentary elections but he don't want to give up power.
It seems that army, police and even supreme court support Maduro.
In recent peace demonstrations against Maduro more than 30 people are killed.
It's shame to see that country so rich with oil and other natural resources, failing in dictatorship and chaos.
I hope that Maduro will give up and leave.


Title: Re: Venezuela future dictatorship
Post by: joebrook on June 02, 2017, 04:51:23 PM
Venezuela has always been a dictatorship country, Hugo Chavez rigged the elections ans thats how he stayed in Power, the current president couldn't do that and now he doesnt want to step down. Which is quite shameful.


Title: Re: Venezuela future dictatorship
Post by: Sithara007 on June 03, 2017, 03:53:22 AM
Venezuela has always been a dictatorship country, Hugo Chavez rigged the elections ans thats how he stayed in Power, the current president couldn't do that and now he doesnt want to step down. Which is quite shameful.

Chavez had no need to rig the elections. During his rein, he enjoyed high oil prices, and therefore he could roll out a large number of social welfare measures. The poor overwhelmingly voted for him. But things have changed now. Maduro no longer commands such a loyal following.


Title: Re: Venezuela future dictatorship
Post by: audaciousbeing on June 03, 2017, 06:44:05 AM
Nowadays the president of Venezuela is trying to remake the constitution of the country to changed it at his will and benefict without the opinion and voted of the people of the country, this is an opened declare of a dictatorship in this country, what are your opinion abuot all this?

In modern democracy, there is no way that will be possible except Venezuela does not practice democracy and does not have representatives as House of representatives or Senate that will stand as check against the excesses of the executive as what we are having now. It cannot even happen in a country like mine, the protest will be going on until the next election when the government will be booted out of power without the option of returning.


Title: Re: Venezuela future dictatorship
Post by: 2bfree on June 03, 2017, 07:19:52 AM
Venezuella should not be a democracy but a free representative republic with bill of rights for it's citizens. If they would listen to this advice they would be in a very short time the richest country in South America. But will they listen to this advice?


Title: Re: Venezuela future dictatorship
Post by: Mometaskers on June 03, 2017, 11:45:16 AM
killgald, I remember you said before you're in Venezuela, you still there? I've seen in the news that a larger migration out of Venezuela has already started, I was just wondering if you're among the immigrants.

From what I'm getting from the news, things could be turning for the worse there. I doubt Maduro would go down easily without a fight. I mean,  the people don't even have anything in their fridge now. Only a tyrant will refuse to admit he fucked up big time with the starvation people are experiencing now.


Title: Re: Venezuela future dictatorship
Post by: Tyrantt on June 03, 2017, 02:48:17 PM
Well that's how all socialist/communist countries end up... with dictatorship. Venezuela has been  a mess for a long time and this was inevitable. Just like any other socialist/communist country it's going to end with famine, civil war, countless deaths of enemies of the regime,  etc..



http://68.media.tumblr.com/5c5bcdd01511d7eb305255e401210fb1/tumblr_o2o51te1Vv1ts18pco1_400.jpg


Title: Re: Venezuela future dictatorship
Post by: Lieldoryn on June 03, 2017, 07:32:51 PM
Venezuella should not be a democracy but a free representative republic with bill of rights for it's citizens. If they would listen to this advice they would be in a very short time the richest country in South America. But will they listen to this advice?
How are you going to make Venezuela a rich country? The economy of this country depends entirely on oil prices. I do not see any prerequisites to ensure that the price of oil will rise. About the economy supposed to think Chavez when the oil price was high it was necessary to build the production, and now it's too late. Even if they will achieve the resignation of the President, nothing will change.


Title: Re: Venezuela future dictatorship
Post by: Judge-Dredd on June 03, 2017, 09:21:01 PM
Do you think the Venezuelan constitution holds any water anyway? The socialist government does what it wants regardless of what the constitution says. Re-writing it will only make these types of things easier. It truly is a sad situation.


Title: Re: Venezuela future dictatorship
Post by: Sithara007 on June 04, 2017, 03:19:35 AM
Venezuella should not be a democracy but a free representative republic with bill of rights for it's citizens. If they would listen to this advice they would be in a very short time the richest country in South America. But will they listen to this advice?

The mentality of the people must be blamed. I have noticed across the Latin America that the people are averse to hard work. They just want free money and benefits. The socialists governments across the region has encouraged this mentality, by giving out handouts.


Title: Re: Venezuela future dictatorship
Post by: aeternus on June 04, 2017, 03:21:42 AM
Nowadays the president of Venezuela is trying to remake the constitution of the country to changed it at his will and benefict without the opinion and voted of the people of the country, this is an opened declare of a dictatorship in this country, what are your opinion abuot all this?
Future dictatorship? I was under the impression they were already in one in everything but name, so to me this is nothing new.


Title: Re: Venezuela future dictatorship
Post by: Mometaskers on June 04, 2017, 09:02:28 AM
Well that's how all socialist/communist countries end up... with dictatorship. Venezuela has been  a mess for a long time and this was inevitable. Just like any other socialist/communist country it's going to end with famine, civil war, countless deaths of enemies of the regime,  etc..



http://68.media.tumblr.com/5c5bcdd01511d7eb305255e401210fb1/tumblr_o2o51te1Vv1ts18pco1_400.jpg


If that photo's for real, then this is just sad...   :(


Title: Re: Venezuela future dictatorship
Post by: suddenblow on June 04, 2017, 11:24:13 AM
Venezuelan dictatorship is already doomed. Such regimes can only survive if the bordering states are just as bad, or if they are North Korea. Maduro want's to rule the country with an iron fist, but to do that furst he needs tho have the said iron fist. I don't think he's willing to bring out tanks and drown the opposition protests in blood. Sure he may be OK with a few casualties, but nothing like what the Soviets and Chinese did in order to retain their power.

A regime at war with its own people is doomed to fall sooner or later.


Title: Re: Venezuela future dictatorship
Post by: killgald on June 04, 2017, 06:02:44 PM
Well that's how all socialist/communist countries end up... with dictatorship. Venezuela has been  a mess for a long time and this was inevitable. Just like any other socialist/communist country it's going to end with famine, civil war, countless deaths of enemies of the regime,  etc..



http://68.media.tumblr.com/5c5bcdd01511d7eb305255e401210fb1/tumblr_o2o51te1Vv1ts18pco1_400.jpg


If that photo's for real, then this is just sad...   :(
Believe it or not, but itīs true and that photo is 2 years old, now there are no food to sustain the population.


Title: Re: Venezuela future dictatorship
Post by: mainpmf on June 04, 2017, 06:14:34 PM
Venezuela has always been a dictatorship country, Hugo Chavez rigged the elections ans thats how he stayed in Power, the current president couldn't do that and now he doesnt want to step down. Which is quite shameful.

Yeah sure.
More bullshit please?
Chavez simply got rid of the parasites of the USA
He managed to redistribute an incredible amount of the production to the people.
He managed to fight back poverty so efficiently USA had to actually put world propaganda to make people think Venezuela was a horrible country.


Don't believe me? Check the poverty rate in Venezuela before and after Chavez...

He wasn't a god or a perfect man. Corruption and personnal interests went in. Exactly like for Castro.
But they actually gave to their people.


Title: Re: Venezuela future dictatorship
Post by: killgald on June 04, 2017, 06:21:29 PM
Venezuela has always been a dictatorship country, Hugo Chavez rigged the elections ans thats how he stayed in Power, the current president couldn't do that and now he doesnt want to step down. Which is quite shameful.

Yeah sure.
More bullshit please?
Chavez simply got rid of the parasites of the USA
He managed to redistribute an incredible amount of the production to the people.
He managed to fight back poverty so efficiently USA had to actually put world propaganda to make people think Venezuela was a horrible country.


Don't believe me? Check the poverty rate in Venezuela before and after Chavez...

He wasn't a god or a perfect man. Corruption and personnal interests went in. Exactly like for Castro.
But they actually gave to their people.

Yeah the stadistic in web pages of the goverment said so, but the reality is other, itīs true that he redirect the money to the lower classes of the country but destroying the other part of it and the producter side of the population.


Title: Re: Venezuela future dictatorship
Post by: Mometaskers on June 05, 2017, 10:39:35 AM
Well that's how all socialist/communist countries end up... with dictatorship. Venezuela has been  a mess for a long time and this was inevitable. Just like any other socialist/communist country it's going to end with famine, civil war, countless deaths of enemies of the regime,  etc..



http://68.media.tumblr.com/5c5bcdd01511d7eb305255e401210fb1/tumblr_o2o51te1Vv1ts18pco1_400.jpg


If that photo's for real, then this is just sad...   :(
Believe it or not, but itīs true and that photo is 2 years old, now there are no food to sustain the population.

Youtube channels like RT and al Jazeera are already reporting on Venezuela on almost a daily basis now, that just shows how bad things are getting. Get out of there now! Any "free" diploma you might get from it would end up useless if it becomes fcuked up beyond belief.

Unfortunately, since the country is not at war, there's not much many organizations can do to interfere anyway. Are there NGO going into Venezuela to provide aid or are they also banned from going in now?

From what I'm seeing, Venezuelan's are moving into neighboring Columbia and Guyana, hardly any richer countries that might decide to just bar entry if they start getting to much refugees. Have you considered moving to Chile?


Title: Re: Venezuela future dictatorship
Post by: Eminem23 on August 20, 2017, 10:01:20 AM
Nowadays the president of Venezuela is trying to remake the constitution of the country to changed it at his will and benefict without the opinion and voted of the people of the country, this is an opened declare of a dictatorship in this country, what are your opinion abuot all this?
In my opinion yes, he wants to be a dictator. But hardly it will turn out for him. Probably protests will outgrow in civil war, where he will not have chances to win. People it needs to be respected.


Title: Re: Venezuela future dictatorship
Post by: bryant.coleman on August 20, 2017, 12:26:08 PM
Nowadays the president of Venezuela is trying to remake the constitution of the country to changed it at his will and benefict without the opinion and voted of the people of the country, this is an opened declare of a dictatorship in this country, what are your opinion abuot all this?
In my opinion yes, he wants to be a dictator. But hardly it will turn out for him. Probably protests will outgrow in civil war, where he will not have chances to win. People it needs to be respected.

If the opposition is clever enough, then they should wait for a few more months. The next presidential elections are scheduled for 2018 October. It is around 12 months from now. If the opposition members riot in the street, then it will give Maduro the excuse to declare emergency and to postpone the elections (which he is sure to lose).


Title: Re: Venezuela future dictatorship
Post by: Daniel91 on August 20, 2017, 12:37:55 PM
Nowadays the president of Venezuela is trying to remake the constitution of the country to changed it at his will and benefict without the opinion and voted of the people of the country, this is an opened declare of a dictatorship in this country, what are your opinion abuot all this?

It's very sad to see what is happening in Venezuela now.
Venezuela is a country rich in oil and other resources, but because of the experiment with socialism Venezuela falls into chaos and falls apart.
Now, instead of democracy they have dictatorship and people don't have any freedom now, stability or security.
I really hope that they will not continue this journey to destruction.


Title: Re: Venezuela future dictatorship
Post by: bryant.coleman on August 20, 2017, 01:26:39 PM
Nowadays the president of Venezuela is trying to remake the constitution of the country to changed it at his will and benefict without the opinion and voted of the people of the country, this is an opened declare of a dictatorship in this country, what are your opinion abuot all this?

It's very sad to see what is happening in Venezuela now.
Venezuela is a country rich in oil and other resources, but because of the experiment with socialism Venezuela falls into chaos and falls apart.
Now, instead of democracy they have dictatorship and people don't have any freedom now, stability or security.
I really hope that they will not continue this journey to destruction.


It is the same situation in most of the Latin American nations. Look at Ecuador. They have a dictator in place, who massacred the indigenous protesters in 2009. In the neighboring Peru, you have another dictator who did the same to the opposition protesters the same year. The situation in Paraguay is not any different either. Perhaps Argentina is the only true democracy in Latin America.


Title: Re: Venezuela future dictatorship
Post by: joebrook on August 20, 2017, 03:11:09 PM
Nowadays the president of Venezuela is trying to remake the constitution of the country to changed it at his will and benefict without the opinion and voted of the people of the country, this is an opened declare of a dictatorship in this country, what are your opinion abuot all this?

It's very sad to see what is happening in Venezuela now.
Venezuela is a country rich in oil and other resources, but because of the experiment with socialism Venezuela falls into chaos and falls apart.
Now, instead of democracy they have dictatorship and people don't have any freedom now, stability or security.
I really hope that they will not continue this journey to destruction.

There are some places in the world where democracy is meant to thrive, When you look at the history of Africa, South America and most of Asia, they have known dictatorship and Monarchy all their lives. I believe its the way they are meant to be governed, Democracy is for Europe and North America.


Title: Re: Venezuela future dictatorship
Post by: kevin. on October 03, 2017, 03:33:37 PM
Rather sooner than later this regime will end. Country has plenty of oil, but people are starving. The same as 30 years ago in the Soviet Union. We all know the destiny of the soviets.


Title: Re: Venezuela future dictatorship
Post by: QpeepBounties on October 22, 2017, 12:36:12 AM
What do we know in fact about Venezuela? Just what the TV tells us. I guess we should go there and see with our eyes before having an idea on what's going on there.


Title: Re: Venezuela future dictatorship
Post by: Sithara007 on October 22, 2017, 04:35:59 AM
Rather sooner than later this regime will end. Country has plenty of oil, but people are starving. The same as 30 years ago in the Soviet Union. We all know the destiny of the soviets.

Venezuela can't be compared to the Soviet Union. The USSR got involved in too many third world nations far beyond their boundaries and the financial burden arising out of such interventions finally resulted in the federal debt creeping up and thereby destroying the economy and the national currency. The situation in Venezuela is quite different.


Title: Re: Venezuela future dictatorship
Post by: The_prodigy on October 22, 2017, 09:44:50 AM
Nowadays the president of Venezuela is trying to remake the constitution of the country to changed it at his will and benefict without the opinion and voted of the people of the country, this is an opened declare of a dictatorship in this country, what are your opinion abuot all this?

Dictatorship is something that cannot be made an excuse for the progression or the development of a country. Democracy or the people should always have the ability to say or have the power on doing what they think would bekefot them and not jist on one man


Title: Re: Venezuela future dictatorship
Post by: lisa255 on October 22, 2017, 09:59:33 AM
Nowadays the president of Venezuela is trying to remake the constitution of the country to changed it at his will and benefict without the opinion and voted of the people of the country, this is an opened declare of a dictatorship in this country, what are your opinion abuot all this?
The country is not the largest and most influential in America, but it will not be so easy for him to crank it. Therefore, if he does all this for good, then everyone will agree, but listen to other opinions is worth it.