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Title: Russia Reveals Plans To Make Its Own National Cryptocurrency
Post by: Hydrogen on June 03, 2017, 02:51:03 AM
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Russia is making its own blockchain currency. According to the Russian News Agency, the chairwoman of the Russian Central Bank announced regulators now agree national cryptocurrencies are the future.  “After our pilot projects we will understand what system we could use in our case for our national currency," chairwoman Olga Skorobogatova told the crowd at the St. Petersburg International Economic Forum. However, it’s still unclear how Russian cryptocurrency would live alongside global blockchain tokens like bitcoin and ether.

Over the past few months, Russia has moved to legalize and regulate cryptocurrency trading. Skorobogatova previously said an outright ban on bitcoin and currencies of its ilk would be infeasible. Unconfirmed reports from Russian news aggregators claimed on Friday that Herman Gref, the CEO of Russia’s Sberbank, will help develop a “Russian Bitcoin,” to serve as “the only cryptocurrency freely available [cryptocurrency] for sale and purchase.”

Earlier this year, Gref said at a conference Russia could have industrial-scale blockchain deployment by 2019. But according to Reuters, Russian authorities have historically been skeptical about bitcoin, associating it with money laundering and terrorism. Treating bitcoin as parallel currency is currently illegal in Russia. Only time will tell how regulators will treat competing cryptocurrencies as the new policies take shape.

Elvira Nabiullina, governor of the Russian Central Bank, said the Kremlin does not plan to make bitcoin itself a legal tender. "We don't consider that bitcoin can be considered as a virtual currency. It's more digital assets with the regulation of assets," she told CNBC.

Despite the uncertainties, many Russian bitcoin traders are celebrating. “Thousands of people are taking part of this [blockchain] movement, you see a conference in Moscow almost every week. You see Russian blockchain media with big traffic,” said Alexey Antonov from Moscow, a financial advisor at the Russian Supercomputer Organized by Network Mining. SONM plans to launch their initial coin offering in June and make blockchain technology without hash-based traditional cryptocurrency mining.

Antonov said he is excited for Russia to make a sort of crypto-ruble. “I’m glad the Central Bank of Russia established some regulation and their own cryptocurrency,” Antonov told International Business Times. “We think that in Russia there will be some official currency, it will be better for all of us, because we’ll have a method to transfer money from our blockchain companies. It’s better than nothing.”

In the near future, Antonov said blockchain could help regular Russian citizens and businesses, not just the tech-savvy startup community, by simplifying small business loans. “Obviously, it will be very regulated,” he said. “Maybe we can store our money and pay our taxes legally, it would be great. Right now you can’t spend bitcoin or exchange it for ruble.”

Russia isn’t the only one making a national cryptocurrency. Both China and the Palestinian Monetary Authority recently announced they too plan to make national cryptocurrencies. Meanwhile, Reuters reported Japan and South Korea are working on ways to recognize cryptocurrencies like bitcoin, integrating decentralized blockchain tender into their national monetary systems. It looks like Russia will be the next government to usher its blockchain community out of the shadows into a cryptographic economy.

Antonov said he thinks Russian government officials are tuned in to the broader blockchain landscape. “They are really good at understanding what’s going on in our crypto-world,” he said.

http://www.ibtimes.com/russia-bitcoin-news-country-plans-make-its-own-national-cryptocurrency-2547168

If I remember right, iceland tried to create its own national crypto currency years ago: aurora coin.

As an american it pains me to see every country in the world be more progressive and innovative than we are.

I constantly feel like america is run by the least intelligent people in the world.

Fools who could never see an advantage or benefit in using crypto the way that russia can.

USA is falling behind other nations in every way as a result of our poor leadership and the extremely narrow minded and closed minded views of those who hold positions of power. The SEC which hinders innovation and progress by refusing a bitcoin ETF is a prime example of it.



Title: Re: Russia Reveals Plans To Make Its Own National Cryptocurrency
Post by: jonald_fyookball on June 03, 2017, 03:04:17 AM
aurora coin is barely alive

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/auroracoin/


Title: Re: Russia Reveals Plans To Make Its Own National Cryptocurrency
Post by: iamTom123 on June 03, 2017, 03:15:47 AM
Russia must be feeling jealous at Bitcoin and they must be asking themselves that if Bitcoin can be successful...why can't we instead introduce our own cryptocurrency and have all the people use them so it can rival that of Bitcoin?

Sadly, I have not yet seen any country-backed cryptocoin to ever reached even 1% of the success Bitcoin generated so far. Why? It is because a country-released cryptocurrency is running counter to the very reasons why we have Bitcoin.

Now, I am not saying that Russians have no chance to pull this into a success...but what I am saying is that if they are doing it for the reason above then they might be in for a very big surprise.

They can be a laughingstock in the end while Bitcoin has already reached the $100,000 level.


Title: Re: Russia Reveals Plans To Make Its Own National Cryptocurrency
Post by: L00n3y on June 03, 2017, 05:17:33 AM
Russia must be feeling jealous at Bitcoin and they must be asking themselves that if Bitcoin can be successful...why can't we instead introduce our own cryptocurrency and have all the people use them so it can rival that of Bitcoin?

Sadly, I have not yet seen any country-backed cryptocoin to ever reached even 1% of the success Bitcoin generated so far. Why? It is because a country-released cryptocurrency is running counter to the very reasons why we have Bitcoin.

Now, I am not saying that Russians have no chance to pull this into a success...but what I am saying is that if they are doing it for the reason above then they might be in for a very big surprise.

They can be a laughingstock in the end while Bitcoin has already reached the $100,000 level.

During the cold war, the Russian government remain competitive in other countries up to these days. Couple of months ago I've read that the Russian government banned the banking cartel of the Rothschild in their country. So it's not hard to believe that they are planning something like that. With the acceptance of other countries to Bitcoin I think it would be hard to dethrone the king of cryptocurrencies. Let's just wait for more updates and news on this one. And invest on their altcoins  ;D


Title: Re: Russia Reveals Plans To Make Its Own National Cryptocurrency
Post by: irukandji on June 03, 2017, 05:24:10 AM
They might need to make it quantum resistant, or we might find out just how good the NSA is.  ;D


Title: Re: Russia Reveals Plans To Make Its Own National Cryptocurrency
Post by: digaran on June 03, 2017, 05:28:39 AM
A crypto currency if not being decentralized and open source then it's not a crypto currency, Bitcoin is successful for the two reasons mentioned above.
When people worldwide could potentially own and mine a coin and operate mining farms to an extent which renders any government unable to control the network that's called a crypto currency being decentralized.
No matter what a country going to call it, that is not a publicly available ledger.


Title: Re: Russia Reveals Plans To Make Its Own National Cryptocurrency
Post by: Juggy777 on June 03, 2017, 05:30:13 AM
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Russia is making its own blockchain currency. According to the Russian News Agency, the chairwoman of the Russian Central Bank announced regulators now agree national cryptocurrencies are the future.  “After our pilot projects we will understand what system we could use in our case for our national currency," chairwoman Olga Skorobogatova told the crowd at the St. Petersburg International Economic Forum. However, it’s still unclear how Russian cryptocurrency would live alongside global blockchain tokens like bitcoin and ether.

Over the past few months, Russia has moved to legalize and regulate cryptocurrency trading. Skorobogatova previously said an outright ban on bitcoin and currencies of its ilk would be infeasible. Unconfirmed reports from Russian news aggregators claimed on Friday that Herman Gref, the CEO of Russia’s Sberbank, will help develop a “Russian Bitcoin,” to serve as “the only cryptocurrency freely available [cryptocurrency] for sale and purchase.”

Earlier this year, Gref said at a conference Russia could have industrial-scale blockchain deployment by 2019. But according to Reuters, Russian authorities have historically been skeptical about bitcoin, associating it with money laundering and terrorism. Treating bitcoin as parallel currency is currently illegal in Russia. Only time will tell how regulators will treat competing cryptocurrencies as the new policies take shape.

Elvira Nabiullina, governor of the Russian Central Bank, said the Kremlin does not plan to make bitcoin itself a legal tender. "We don't consider that bitcoin can be considered as a virtual currency. It's more digital assets with the regulation of assets," she told CNBC.

Despite the uncertainties, many Russian bitcoin traders are celebrating. “Thousands of people are taking part of this [blockchain] movement, you see a conference in Moscow almost every week. You see Russian blockchain media with big traffic,” said Alexey Antonov from Moscow, a financial advisor at the Russian Supercomputer Organized by Network Mining. SONM plans to launch their initial coin offering in June and make blockchain technology without hash-based traditional cryptocurrency mining.

Antonov said he is excited for Russia to make a sort of crypto-ruble. “I’m glad the Central Bank of Russia established some regulation and their own cryptocurrency,” Antonov told International Business Times. “We think that in Russia there will be some official currency, it will be better for all of us, because we’ll have a method to transfer money from our blockchain companies. It’s better than nothing.”

In the near future, Antonov said blockchain could help regular Russian citizens and businesses, not just the tech-savvy startup community, by simplifying small business loans. “Obviously, it will be very regulated,” he said. “Maybe we can store our money and pay our taxes legally, it would be great. Right now you can’t spend bitcoin or exchange it for ruble.”

Russia isn’t the only one making a national cryptocurrency. Both China and the Palestinian Monetary Authority recently announced they too plan to make national cryptocurrencies. Meanwhile, Reuters reported Japan and South Korea are working on ways to recognize cryptocurrencies like bitcoin, integrating decentralized blockchain tender into their national monetary systems. It looks like Russia will be the next government to usher its blockchain community out of the shadows into a cryptographic economy.

Antonov said he thinks Russian government officials are tuned in to the broader blockchain landscape. “They are really good at understanding what’s going on in our crypto-world,” he said.

http://www.ibtimes.com/russia-bitcoin-news-country-plans-make-its-own-national-cryptocurrency-2547168

If I remember right, iceland tried to create its own national crypto currency years ago: aurora coin.

As an american it pains me to see every country in the world be more progressive and innovative than we are.

I constantly feel like america is run by the least intelligent people in the world.

Fools who could never see an advantage or benefit in using crypto the way that russia can.

USA is falling behind other nations in every way as a result of our poor leadership and the extremely narrow minded and closed minded views of those who hold positions of power. The SEC which hinders innovation and progress by refusing a bitcoin ETF is a prime example of it.



I feel your pain mate, I am not at all surprised to see Russia do this, for quite a while there was a buzz something like this was about to happen, what surprises me is why isn't USA doing something, it's the biggest super power and look it's doing absolutely nothing, it should have been pioneer in taking this technology and should have made huge advancement with it, I am yet waiting for President to Elect that we accept Bitcoins! Let's make America great and let's give Bitcoin power to people, if he succeeds in it, then it shall be simply awesome. Japan adopted it, Russia did it, I hope next Is USA.


Title: Re: Russia Reveals Plans To Make Its Own National Cryptocurrency
Post by: pinkflower on June 03, 2017, 05:50:35 AM
Its not a real cryptocurrency if its distribution is centralized. And how are they going to deploy it? Are they going to use POW, POS or something else? Whos allowed to hold it and how will the Russians stop foreigners from holding some?

If its really decentralized, what about sybil attacks? Im sure lots of hackers would love to play around with a nation backed crypto. America, your country needs you.


Title: Re: Russia Reveals Plans To Make Its Own National Cryptocurrency
Post by: davis196 on June 03, 2017, 05:53:54 AM
A crypto currency if not being decentralized and open source then it's not a crypto currency, Bitcoin is successful for the two reasons mentioned above.
When people worldwide could potentially own and mine a coin and operate mining farms to an extent which renders any government unable to control the network that's called a crypto currency being decentralized.
No matter what a country going to call it, that is not a publicly available ledger.

Yes,but what if more people trust a cryptocurrency because it gets all the goverment support from a strong country?Mining support,regulations,incentives...
The russian altcoin will have any success only if people around the world accept it.
If it stays only in Russia,it will be like aurora coin.


Title: Re: Russia Reveals Plans To Make Its Own National Cryptocurrency
Post by: Herbert2020 on June 03, 2017, 06:32:07 AM
which country is this, the fifth or tenth that has said a similar thing! i think the first one that i've heard was China and the latest (before Russia) was India. and i still don't get what they want to achieve by doing this. i mean i get the interest in blockchain technology and why banks would want to use it in their banking system but a country releasing an official crypto! that sounds weird to me.


Title: Re: Russia Reveals Plans To Make Its Own National Cryptocurrency
Post by: el kaka22 on June 03, 2017, 06:44:15 AM
which country is this, the fifth or tenth that has said a similar thing! i think the first one that i've heard was China and the latest (before Russia) was India. and i still don't get what they want to achieve by doing this. i mean i get the interest in blockchain technology and why banks would want to use it in their banking system but a country releasing an official crypto! that sounds weird to me.
They will learn from their own mistakes. There will be no point on having country specific cryptocurrency. A centralized system. People may start using it but surely will find no differences from their existing fiat systems. On a positive side, I do foresee these types of government initiatives may promote bitcoin awareness indirectly.

If I remember right, iceland tried to create its own national crypto currency years ago: aurora coin.
No, some devs air dropped it to Iceland people based on verifying citizenship, no other government involvement. Even if I am wrong, what differences aurocoin made into Iceland's economic growth or at least in crypto world what it has done significantly. I read many tragic stories of our forum member's losses due to aurora coin's hype and pump.

Russia may have a coin, but it will be just another altcoin sooner or later.


Title: Re: Russia Reveals Plans To Make Its Own National Cryptocurrency
Post by: 2bfree on June 03, 2017, 07:09:43 AM
The reason my country has a "peoples bank" is to steal from the people by deception. If they had a country back free real cryptocurrency they could not steal from the farmers, workers etc... My country is full of lazy entitled governement loving burocrats and if they had to pay all the lazy parasites without stealing via paper money 90% of them would be gone! So no they will have use free money they only use tyrants money that the "peoples bank" prints to steal from me and pay the jerk who does nothing gets free demdical, dental and pension and it's stolen from me!


Title: Re: Russia Reveals Plans To Make Its Own National Cryptocurrency
Post by: stompix on June 03, 2017, 08:39:53 AM

Sadly, I have not yet seen any country-backed cryptocoin to ever reached even 1% of the success Bitcoin generated so far. Why? It is because a country-released cryptocurrency is running counter to the very reasons why we have Bitcoin.
 


There was no altcoin issued by a country.
Even auroracoin was an independent project.

Most of them were pure scams that's why they ended so bad.
And if the Russians will enforce their coin as a payment method it will not die so easily.

Most important it will their attitude towards bitcoin once they have rucoin active.


Its not a real cryptocurrency if its distribution is centralized. And how are they going to deploy it? Are they going to use POW, POS or something else? Whos allowed to hold it and how will the Russians stop foreigners from holding some?

If its really decentralized, what about sybil attacks? Im sure lots of hackers would love to play around with a nation backed crypto. America, your country needs you.

What is so hard to understand.
They issue coins and you can go to you bank deposit 100 rubles and get 100 whatevercoin.

And hold your horses, one successful attack against a coin using the blockchian will be bad for bitcoin also.




Title: Re: Russia Reveals Plans To Make Its Own National Cryptocurrency
Post by: mindrust on June 03, 2017, 08:47:20 AM
The funny thing is, the game is already over. It doesn't matter if those new coins are being backed by Russia, China or USA. They'll be named as altcoins no matter what.

Russia already has its fiat which you can use with credit cards. Another poor attemp to create a bitcoin killer.  8)

Those countries don't understand one simple thing. Bitcoin is strong because there's no country behind it.


Title: Re: Russia Reveals Plans To Make Its Own National Cryptocurrency
Post by: Iranus on June 03, 2017, 08:52:14 AM
Sadly, I have not yet seen any country-backed cryptocoin to ever reached even 1% of the success Bitcoin generated so far. Why? It is because a country-released cryptocurrency is running counter to the very reasons why we have Bitcoin.
I agree that there are problems with centralised distribution, and a country-issued cryptocurrency wouldn't "replace" Bitcoin per se, but it definitely would achieve more success.

It's easy to overestimate how principled and virtuous people are.  The answer is that they're not at all either of them.  Bitcoin is a fringe currency for now, and if marketed correctly a country-issued cryptocurrency could be extremely popular.



The problem is that blockchain technology is just so damn good when done correctly that a government with billions to spend on marketing and development can produce something which is extremely appealing to the general public due to its low fees and convenience.


Title: Re: Russia Reveals Plans To Make Its Own National Cryptocurrency
Post by: franky1 on June 03, 2017, 09:20:43 AM
ok.. guess some people need to check sources
in short nothing new.

1. aurora coin was not government created it was citizen created and tried to get mainstream adoption..
2. russia and all other government based efforts to get into 'blockchain' are done via hyperledger.. yep that includes russia.

https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/russias-biggest-bank-joins-hyperledger-blockchain-project/


Title: Re: Russia Reveals Plans To Make Its Own National Cryptocurrency
Post by: deisik on June 03, 2017, 09:33:40 AM
The funny thing is, the game is already over. It doesn't matter if those new coins are being backed by Russia, China or USA. They'll be named as altcoins no matter what.

Russia already has its fiat which you can use with credit cards. Another poor attemp to create a bitcoin killer.  8)

Those countries don't understand one simple thing. Bitcoin is strong because there's no country behind it.

They understand everything

And they are not really going to create any government backed coprocoin. These are just words, empty words, which lost their meaning long ago. Mark Twain said it over 100 years ago that you shouldn't believe anything of what you hear (and half of what you see). The Russian economy is stagnating at best now (even according to official reports), and Putin's regime (or should I rather say clique?) consisting mostly of oligarchs should get themselves busy with solving more mundane issues that the country is going to face in the nearest future (and is already facing). The best they can do is just go away


Title: Re: Russia Reveals Plans To Make Its Own National Cryptocurrency
Post by: DoublerHunter on June 03, 2017, 09:57:41 AM
Another plan again for their own national cryptocurrency? I think it will not work like bitcoin unless it is centralized and they banned bitcoin from their country so their countrymen will be forced to use their national cryptocurrency but overall it is not a big deal for bitcoin users because just create as much currency as you want but nothing can stop bitcoin.


Title: Re: Russia Reveals Plans To Make Its Own National Cryptocurrency
Post by: franky1 on June 03, 2017, 10:02:41 AM
They understand everything

And they are not really going to create any government backed coprocoin. These are just words, empty words, which lost their meaning long ago. Mark Twain said it over 100 years ago that you shouldn't believe anything of what you hear (and half of what you see). The Russian economy is stagnating at best now (even according to official reports), and Putin's regime (or should I rather say clique?) consisting mostly of oligarchs should get themselves busy with solving more mundane issues that the country is going to face in the nearest future (and is already facing). The best they can do is just go away

seems you may not know much of russia.
you do know russia has many trade deals with the west.
yep
you can get iphones, computers, cars, kids toys,
yep kids in russia are playing with 'fidget spinners' (current western craze), hoverboards, and everything else the west plays with
yep russia has mcdonalds, KFC and many other western food outlets
if you think america hates russia, your wrong.. america is actually paying russia to send astronauts into space (taxi to international space station)

i find it strange how people compare russia to north korea. i guess it may be due to the fox news hypnotism and reddit regurgitation of fud

but with all that said. thinking that many countries governments wont bother using blockchain, is like the titanic thinking the iceburg wont do any damage.

its better to know the real situation, than to pretend there is not a problem. especially bad when you see people hide a problem using quotes of people who have not been alive for the last few years, decades, century and them taking such quotes out of context.

mark twains context is. dont take things on face value.. do your own research beyond what you see or hear

if you really want to do some research into what governments are doing in regards to blockchain.. here is a key word to start your research 'hyperledger'

have a nice day


Title: Re: Russia Reveals Plans To Make Its Own National Cryptocurrency
Post by: bitbunnny on June 03, 2017, 10:30:57 AM
I don't think that any government sponsored coin could be successful, not in Russia or anywhere else. This is kind of rasponse to Bitcoin success but they can't compete. With this Russia is probably trying to show that they are not against cryptocurrencies but it has to be under government control. So Putin style.


Title: Re: Russia Reveals Plans To Make Its Own National Cryptocurrency
Post by: Winner on June 03, 2017, 10:38:20 AM
I don't think that any government sponsored coin could be successful, not in Russia or anywhere else. This is kind of rasponse to Bitcoin success but they can't compete. With this Russia is probably trying to show that they are not against cryptocurrencies but it has to be under government control. So Putin style.
If Russia does decide to step forward to build a Cryptocurrency that the citizens could use then I think that they actually have a chance to cause a bit of disruption within the community of Bitcoin.
 
Russia been talking about making a Cryptocurrency for a couple of years now yet nothing really happened. It's kind of like those articles being posted about people receiving multi-millions of dollars worth of investments so they could work on Blockchain development though nothing really happens after that.


Title: Re: Russia Reveals Plans To Make Its Own National Cryptocurrency
Post by: Scorpion on June 03, 2017, 10:41:46 AM

They're inadvertently advertising for Bitcoin though if their intention is to disrupt BTC - which actually I don't believe is the case. They are going to profit off the crypto hype.


Title: Re: Russia Reveals Plans To Make Its Own National Cryptocurrency
Post by: deisik on June 03, 2017, 10:53:42 AM
They understand everything

And they are not really going to create any government backed coprocoin. These are just words, empty words, which lost their meaning long ago. Mark Twain said it over 100 years ago that you shouldn't believe anything of what you hear (and half of what you see). The Russian economy is stagnating at best now (even according to official reports), and Putin's regime (or should I rather say clique?) consisting mostly of oligarchs should get themselves busy with solving more mundane issues that the country is going to face in the nearest future (and is already facing). The best they can do is just go away

seems you may not know much of russia

Do you think that you know much more?

McDonalds, KFC's (and "and many other western food outlets") just like iPhones, iPads, iWhatNots and similar stuff don't mean a thing if the economy of a country is going down. You talk with cliches from 80's-early 90's, which no longer mean anything and can't fool anyone anymore. Putin is not a fool himself but his lust for power is playing an evil or even devilish trick on him. Any society under such a ruler inevitably starts rotting down from inside, people get bored, they lose incentive to do anything just like it happened in the former USSR. Just in case, the space taxi is the legacy of the Soviets, not modern Russia's invention or development, which itself was a result of 1960's when there was a general upswing and optimism in the society after Stalin's death


Title: Re: Russia Reveals Plans To Make Its Own National Cryptocurrency
Post by: cybersofts on June 03, 2017, 11:05:54 AM
Yes, I was reading this yesterday on CoinDesk but I don't how are they going to operate the "RuCoin" does it have any Russian or international law to regulate the coin for oversea users or what??? or they're going to release it as another form of Altcoin, dude???


Title: Re: Russia Reveals Plans To Make Its Own National Cryptocurrency
Post by: Mometaskers on June 03, 2017, 11:15:10 AM

http://www.ibtimes.com/russia-bitcoin-news-country-plans-make-its-own-national-cryptocurrency-2547168

If I remember right, iceland tried to create its own national crypto currency years ago: aurora coin.

As an american it pains me to see every country in the world be more progressive and innovative than we are.

I constantly feel like america is run by the least intelligent people in the world.

Fools who could never see an advantage or benefit in using crypto the way that russia can.

USA is falling behind other nations in every way as a result of our poor leadership and the extremely narrow minded and closed minded views of those who hold positions of power. The SEC which hinders innovation and progress by refusing a bitcoin ETF is a prime example of it.



And to think Russia apparently tried to ban it a few years ago. They definitely saw the benefit to cryptocurrency and want in on the action. Whether it would be successful is a different matter though.

Being from a government, I expect it to be highly-centralized and not a lot of people might like that. If it's just a digital version of their fiat, then I see little innovation save for simply using a blockchain. I suppose it'd be useful to stopping money laundering if they use it to replace their paper bills though.



Title: Re: Russia Reveals Plans To Make Its Own National Cryptocurrency
Post by: Ucy on June 03, 2017, 12:06:41 PM
I have no problem with countries trying to create their own National cryptocurrencies what I find distasteful is government trying to own them. Man what is wrong with the world? Such level of suspicions & insecurity. Everything is politicized thesedays.

What government will fail massively at is trying to stop people from using Cryptocurrencies of their choice anywhere in the World


Title: Re: Russia Reveals Plans To Make Its Own National Cryptocurrency
Post by: ethereumhunter on June 03, 2017, 12:31:27 PM
I have no problem with countries trying to create their own National cryptocurrencies what I find distasteful is government trying to own them. Man what is wrong with the world? Such level of suspicions & insecurity. Everything is politicized thesedays.

What government will fail massively at is trying to stop people from using Cryptocurrencies of their choice anywhere in the World

i am with you too because as long as we can make money from the coin from the country like what rusia did, we can still following the coins but if the coins is not promising again, then i am sure that people don't want to followed or used the coins. its natural for one government that wants to be superior among the other but they need to have many things to show and proof that they are really capable to be the best one.


Title: Re: Russia Reveals Plans To Make Its Own National Cryptocurrency
Post by: Kabul on June 03, 2017, 04:51:12 PM
Nice to hear about that. It will help the world know more about bitcoin but I do not think that this coin will be successful in the Russia or any other country because I believe that it is not the purpose of cryptocurrency


Title: Re: Russia Reveals Plans To Make Its Own National Cryptocurrency
Post by: Sundark on June 03, 2017, 04:56:26 PM
Nice to hear about that. It will help the world know more about bitcoin but I do not think that this coin will be successful in the Russia or any other country because I believe that it is not the purpose of cryptocurrency
What is exactly nice about this? They are developing their own altcoin, this is nothing to do with bitcoin, other than that they will base their invention on blockchain tech.
Bitcoin won't gain anything here, it will be maybe mentioned here and there that there is "bitcoin tech" used, but that's it.
State controlled cryptocurrency is not something we would like to have :/


Title: Re: Russia Reveals Plans To Make Its Own National Cryptocurrency
Post by: deisik on June 03, 2017, 07:29:48 PM
Nice to hear about that. It will help the world know more about bitcoin but I do not think that this coin will be successful in the Russia or any other country because I believe that it is not the purpose of cryptocurrency
What is exactly nice about this? They are developing their own altcoin, this is nothing to do with bitcoin, other than that they will base their invention on blockchain tech.
Bitcoin won't gain anything here, it will be maybe mentioned here and there that there is "bitcoin tech" used, but that's it.
State controlled cryptocurrency is not something we would like to have :/

This is outright bullshit

And I'm really fascinated why people continue to believe in that bullshit. At first it had been China with their China coin for a few years, and many folks seriously believed that the Chinese government was really going to make their own cryptocurrency. And where is that cryptocurrency as well as those people? Now Russia seems to have come into spotlight, and people will likely start speculating for another couple of years about a new cryptocurrency to be issued by the Russian government. Every major government already has their own cryptocurrency, and it is called fiat


Title: Re: Russia Reveals Plans To Make Its Own National Cryptocurrency
Post by: lumeire on June 03, 2017, 07:56:26 PM
Nice to hear about that. It will help the world know more about bitcoin but I do not think that this coin will be successful in the Russia or any other country because I believe that it is not the purpose of cryptocurrency
What is exactly nice about this? They are developing their own altcoin, this is nothing to do with bitcoin, other than that they will base their invention on blockchain tech.
Bitcoin won't gain anything here, it will be maybe mentioned here and there that there is "bitcoin tech" used, but that's it.
State controlled cryptocurrency is not something we would like to have :/

This is outright bullshit

And I'm really fascinated why people continue to believe in that bullshit. At first it had been China with their China coin for a few years, and many folks seriously believed that the Chinese government was really going to make their own cryptocurrency. And where is that cryptocurrency as well as those people? Now Russia seems to have come into spotlight, and people will likely start speculating for another couple of years about a new cryptocurrency to be issued by the Russian government. Every major government already has their own cryptocurrency, and it is called fiat

We all know it's not gonna happen, but anyway news like these drive the prices crazy. Let them be.


Title: Re: Russia Reveals Plans To Make Its Own National Cryptocurrency
Post by: AztecGoldHero on June 03, 2017, 08:30:35 PM
as ı know etherıum and waves are based from russıa. they allready supportıng crypto currencıes. especıaly waves gettıng huge support and shasha tryıng to make a legal platform by speakıng russıan goverment. and as ı know a polıtıc party of russıa has a token planıng at waves platform allready.


Title: Re: Russia Reveals Plans To Make Its Own National Cryptocurrency
Post by: pinkflower on June 04, 2017, 12:09:10 PM

Sadly, I have not yet seen any country-backed cryptocoin to ever reached even 1% of the success Bitcoin generated so far. Why? It is because a country-released cryptocurrency is running counter to the very reasons why we have Bitcoin.
 


There was no altcoin issued by a country.
Even auroracoin was an independent project.

Most of them were pure scams that's why they ended so bad.
And if the Russians will enforce their coin as a payment method it will not die so easily.

Most important it will their attitude towards bitcoin once they have rucoin active.


Its not a real cryptocurrency if its distribution is centralized. And how are they going to deploy it? Are they going to use POW, POS or something else? Whos allowed to hold it and how will the Russians stop foreigners from holding some?

If its really decentralized, what about sybil attacks? Im sure lots of hackers would love to play around with a nation backed crypto. America, your country needs you.

What is so hard to understand.
They issue coins and you can go to you bank deposit 100 rubles and get 100 whatevercoin.

And hold your horses, one successful attack against a coin using the blockchian will be bad for bitcoin also.




Whats hard to understand is I buy 100 rubles of whatevercoin and that 100 rubles worth become very volatile in the crypto market. It would be better to hold the 100 rubles in BTC.


Title: Re: Russia Reveals Plans To Make Its Own National Cryptocurrency
Post by: stompix on June 05, 2017, 03:09:07 PM


Whats hard to understand is I buy 100 rubles of whatevercoin and that 100 rubles worth become very volatile in the crypto market. It would be better to hold the 100 rubles in BTC.

Is hard to understand because you think of it like a stupid altcoin that is subject to pumps and dumps on polofail.
It will not be volatile. Simple.

It will be the equivalent of one ruble.
Just like how you deposit 100 ruble on you debit card you buy 100 rucoins.
Why would it fluctuate? It will essentialy be emoney. Nothing to trade nothing to mine nothing to pump and dump.

Check ecuador's dinero



Title: Re: Russia Reveals Plans To Make Its Own National Cryptocurrency
Post by: deisik on June 05, 2017, 04:01:46 PM


Whats hard to understand is I buy 100 rubles of whatevercoin and that 100 rubles worth become very volatile in the crypto market. It would be better to hold the 100 rubles in BTC.

Is hard to understand because you think of it like a stupid altcoin that is subject to pumps and dumps on polofail.
It will not be volatile. Simple.

It will be the equivalent of one ruble.
Just like how you deposit 100 ruble on you debit card you buy 100 rucoins.
Why would it fluctuate? It will essentialy be emoney. Nothing to trade nothing to mine nothing to pump and dump.

Check ecuador's dinero

Russian government doesn't need that

Apart from that, there are already quite a few virtual monies in Russia (e.g. Yandex.Money or Qiwi Wallet), which are just payment processors working seemingly outside the banking system while in reality they are backed by regular banks (Sberbank and Qiwi bank, respectively). It is still the same Russian rubles underneath, so introducing Rucoin will change nothing in this respect. The only direction in which it could potentially change something would be introducing some novice methods of payments, but it will have to face tough competition anyway