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Other => Beginners & Help => Topic started by: SageDB on May 04, 2013, 08:55:34 PM



Title: Beware of these members.
Post by: SageDB on May 04, 2013, 08:55:34 PM
Let's make a list of users to stay away from just for the Newbies section.
Post a username/profile link of the user and a reason to be added to the list.

I'll start off with the user Penetration
He's been called out as a scammer and no doubt has made 50 BTC from scams.

List:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=66853 (Penetration)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=104073 (Si Robertson)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=110549 (Clue4)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=108199 (BitcoinDesktopTicker) Infected files.


Title: Re: Beware of this member..
Post by: Kruncha on May 04, 2013, 09:06:19 PM
If you believe it to be true, you can request he gets a scammer tag here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=98684.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=98684.0)

I think that's the right place...

K.


Title: Re: Beware of this member..
Post by: SilentFlute on May 04, 2013, 09:09:38 PM
thanks for the caution.


Title: Re: Beware of this member..
Post by: No 1 on May 04, 2013, 09:17:05 PM
that bloke just tried to get some of my USD  :o of course he wanted me to send first..


Title: Re: Beware of this member..
Post by: jetset220 on May 04, 2013, 09:55:58 PM
use an escrow service to avoid scammers.


Title: Re: Beware of this member..
Post by: BitcoinBoss on May 04, 2013, 10:00:52 PM
use an escrow service to avoid scammers.

what's escrow? :)


Title: Re: Beware of this member..
Post by: SageDB on May 04, 2013, 10:08:29 PM
use an escrow service to avoid scammers.

what's escrow? :)

Escrow meaning you find a very trusted member to be the mediator between you and the person you want to exchange.
You send BTC to escrow, other person sends LTC to escrow, escrow sends you LTC and him BTC.
The person might charge a fee.


Title: Re: Beware of this member..
Post by: rojoRocket on May 04, 2013, 11:01:40 PM
But.... make sure you use a trusted escrow service such as one of the following:

https://blockchain.info/wallet/escrow
http://btcrow.com/

I have used both with much success, others may have differing opinions though... every consumer thinks differently :)


Title: Re: Beware of this member..
Post by: SageDB on May 04, 2013, 11:54:56 PM
But.... make sure you use a trusted escrow service such as one of the following:

https://blockchain.info/wallet/escrow
http://btcrow.com/

I have used both with much success, others may have differing opinions though... every consumer thinks differently :)

I'm looking into the blockchain, the problem would be finding someone to be the third party.
Haven't seen btcrow before.


Title: Re: Beware of this member..
Post by: bennett616 on May 04, 2013, 11:59:14 PM
How do you get involved in being an escrow? I would do the service, I am very trustworthy but obviously I need to prove that. But if people dont trust me to give me a chance then I will never be trusted haha! :)

Andy B


Title: Re: Beware of this member..
Post by: Trading on May 05, 2013, 12:03:38 AM
You can use bitmit.net: just post anything you want to sell for bitcoins or ask the seller to do the same. The bitcoins are sent to their escrow system. Once the buyer click item received, you receive the bitcoins. If the buyer doesn't confirm that the goods were received, you write bitmit with evidence that you sent (like the transfer id) and they pay you fast.


Title: Re: Beware of this member..
Post by: MoneyCoin on May 05, 2013, 12:10:44 AM
Apply it to the scammer thread -


Title: Re: Beware of this member..
Post by: ChinaCoin on May 05, 2013, 12:15:34 AM
Apply it to the scammer thread -

I think you're a scammer. You tried to sell me 1k CNC at 25 LTC. That is like 1/3 of its value LOL. Keep trying to get your post count up, scammer.


Title: Re: Beware of this member..
Post by: SageDB on May 05, 2013, 01:11:06 AM
Let's turn this into a list for the Newbies section.
If you have been scammed or know of one, post their profile link/name and a reason.


Title: Re: Beware of these members.
Post by: Trading on May 05, 2013, 01:17:06 AM
Lists of scammers are always welcome. But no one should be making scammer accusations without proper evidence. Suspicions are not enough. A proposition below price isn't ground to trash publicly the reputation of someone.


Title: Re: Beware of this member..
Post by: Rodyland on May 05, 2013, 01:21:54 AM
use an escrow service to avoid scammers.

what's escrow? :)

Escrow meaning you find a very trusted member to be the mediator between you and the person you want to exchange.
You send BTC to escrow, other person sends LTC to escrow, escrow sends you LTC and him BTC.
The person might charge a fee.

It's not necessary for the escrow provider to touch both sides of the trade if delivery of one or the other side of the trade can be established beyond doubt.

So for example:
Buyer sends payment to escrow
Escrow tells seller payment is received
Seller sends LTC to buyer
Buyer tells escrow that goods are received
Escrow releases funds to seller

Given that the block chain can track all steps here,  the chances of someone scamming and convincing the escrow to release funds to the wrong party are small to nonexistent.


Title: Re: Beware of these members.
Post by: Wraith on May 05, 2013, 01:38:09 AM
why no scammer tag yet :-\

someone might get tricked


Title: Re: Beware of these members.
Post by: ChinaCoin on May 05, 2013, 01:38:23 AM
ilovebitbit is a scammer. sent him 1 ltc and he left. LOL he's broke, clearly


Title: Re: Beware of this member..
Post by: SageDB on May 05, 2013, 02:49:00 AM
Lists of scammers are always welcome. But no one should be making scammer accusations without proper evidence. Suspicions are not enough. A proposition below price isn't ground to trash publicly the reputation of someone.

I wholeheartedly agree, that's why I haven't added the person in question to the list.
This is not necessarily a scammer list though, just a beware/take caution.

use an escrow service to avoid scammers.
what's escrow? :)
Escrow meaning you find a very trusted member to be the mediator between you and the person you want to exchange.
You send BTC to escrow, other person sends LTC to escrow, escrow sends you LTC and him BTC.
The person might charge a fee.

It's not necessary for the escrow provider to touch both sides of the trade if delivery of one or the other side of the trade can be established beyond doubt.

So for example:
Buyer sends payment to escrow
Escrow tells seller payment is received
Seller sends LTC to buyer
Buyer tells escrow that goods are received
Escrow releases funds to seller

Given that the block chain can track all steps here,  the chances of someone scamming and convincing the escrow to release funds to the wrong party are small to nonexistent.

Ah but if there was no block chain you'd have to trust the buyer to tell escrow to release.
I see your point though.


Title: Re: Beware of these members.
Post by: SageDB on May 07, 2013, 09:12:01 PM
I added clue4 to the list. Bumping up for new members.


Title: Re: Beware of these members.
Post by: JibbsIsMe on May 07, 2013, 09:18:21 PM
Thank you for the warning.


Title: Re: Beware of these members.
Post by: SageDB on May 10, 2013, 09:36:52 PM
Thank you for the warning.

You're welcome.
Feel free to post suggestions for the list.


Title: Re: Beware of these members.
Post by: slcbuyer on May 10, 2013, 10:40:03 PM
thanks for the warning


Title: Re: Beware of these members.
Post by: BladeIV on May 11, 2013, 01:23:50 AM
I'd like to add this user

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=108199 - BitcoinDesktopTicker

He is a hacker he made two posts

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=190213.0 - MtGox Bitcoin Exchange Desktop Ticker! FREE

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=201594.0 - Litecoin Desktop Ticker! (BTC-E)

Both link to a mediafire link which I scanned wit virustotal and it came up blank however on dbl clicking the file it executes and throws out an error
but creates entries in your Appdata/roaming folder and your startup registry. The virus is a well encrypted and Fully Undetected RAT.
he will be able to see what you type and gain access of your computer so please be careful I have reported him.


Title: Re: Beware of these members.
Post by: SageDB on May 11, 2013, 02:38:36 AM
I'd like to add this user

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=108199 - BitcoinDesktopTicker

He is a hacker he made two posts

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=190213.0 - MtGox Bitcoin Exchange Desktop Ticker! FREE

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=201594.0 - Litecoin Desktop Ticker! (BTC-E)

Both link to a mediafire link which I scanned wit virustotal and it came up blank however on dbl clicking the file it executes and throws out an error
but creates entries in your Appdata/roaming folder and your startup registry. The virus is a well encrypted and Fully Undetected RAT.
he will be able to see what you type and gain access of your computer so please be careful I have reported him.

Ah man people are trying to RAT members here?
How do they sleep at night.


Title: Re: Beware of these members.
Post by: SageDB on May 24, 2013, 04:43:53 PM
Bumping this thread up as I haven't been here in a while.


Title: Re: Beware of these members.
Post by: bennett616 on May 24, 2013, 07:11:32 PM
Bump :)

Andy B


Title: Re: Beware of these members.
Post by: craslovell on May 24, 2013, 07:16:54 PM
They are scamming because of their psychological hash envy issues.


Title: Re: Beware of these members.
Post by: drewmsmith on May 24, 2013, 07:22:15 PM
Can't trust anyone these days.


Title: Re: Beware of these members.
Post by: SageDB on May 26, 2013, 04:38:43 AM
Glad to be of help, and please feel free to add suspicious users.


Title: Re: Beware of these members.
Post by: monguru on May 26, 2013, 05:09:19 AM
Thanks for the warning, I was lucky so far, but this is not always the case.

Of course, if you have trouble with someone sols me too!


Title: Re: Beware of these members.
Post by: jbutter on May 26, 2013, 08:50:26 AM
I've noticed listed scammers are still allowed to post and often brag about the scammer status, why keep them around? And what prevents them from signing up again?