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i would hate to see all the suicides from the crash of eth. spare yourself and get out now.

eth is nothing but a house of cards with other houses of cards built on top of it.

in other words, eth is a scam which enables other scams. it won't end well...

Critical reasoning please

what reasoning?

On GDAX on that graph (which I concur, because i use GDAX) ETH got dumped, to be precise 11.000 and 21.000 within 5 minutes. result is: orderbook evaporated!

so some eth is sold for 30 dollars!

go do critical reasoning. SELL YOUR ETH!

I don't see why you have to get out of Ethereum if the price is dumping, it actually is a great time to buy Ethereum if that's the case. I would take advantage of it's low value though and buy them at it's lowest price.

I am amazed you found time for posting among all this panic buying.

I mean I would expect some evolution on bullshit fake-bullish copy paste comments like yours over the years.

I am sure a lot of people would have said the same thing about bitcoin that you are a fan of and as at today, they still hold their belief that bitcoin is a scam or a bubble that would soon burst without any remedy. All noises like this does not even change the mind of the people who have made resolution to keep the faith in ETH irrespective the challenges it might be going through which is even not a new thing to happen to any coin.

Because Eth network is broken/useless/bug and it can't fix.
Ethereum can't even handle as many transactions as Bitcoin without grinding to a halt. Complete and utter shit.
It is a complete useless piece of shit

I strongly agree with you. But for traders, there is no need for panic sellings during price shocks. I bet its price will be around 350$ again within few days.

I see a lot of ethereum fudding going on. I think people just want to make a killing buying in on the dip so they make it sound like all it lost. If the current congestion means ethereum is worthless then so is bitcoin.

BTC and ETH are not even in the same neighborhood. If any coin is overvalued during this crazy crypto pump across all coins, the winner is surely ETH.

Realistically speaking it should not be valued for as much as it does.

This price drop is concerning but I'm still going to wait before I decide sell or not.

Based on what? The fact that its risen so fast? Its a fact that a lot of ethereum is now effectively locked up in various ICOs and the demand for ETH to pay gas fees is rising at an enormous pace. The demand for bitcoin however I feel is more speculative since you don't actually need it for anything, except maybe to buy altcoins on exchanges.

ETH is merely got so much hype due to most of the ICO are going with their platform but no one knows that ETH is controlled by the developer and so can do anything, that is the reason this time we care seeing dump in ETH but it was expected long back, and we can see more down if their is no real support. But in bitcoin you are telling that it is used for buying altcoins then i think you have not used bitcoin for other uses like gambling, in casinos and sports betting, purchase goods online. if your country is accepting bitcoins then you can do much more activity

I'm not especially a big fan of Ethereum but I think ETH has a good potential to keep growing. And I'm not the only one to think that, look at the market cap.
So, can you please explain more in detail what make you think ETH is a scam? You might be right I you can bring some serious facts.

The developer can't do anything he wants with ETH he still needs consensus that is why it forked already once.

Usually, the ethereum chain can be processing up to 40 tx in a second, But the massive demand caused by ico that bring the chain thousands transaction in a second.

What do you mean about "controlled by developer"?

Are you nuts?
https://np.reddit.com/r/ethtrader/comments/6imwi2/dwarfpool_and_f2pool_are_damaging_ethereum_a/

In another case, There is a glitch with the fucking gdax exchange. This already did by bitcoin in the past time.

I remember the bitcoin goes below $1.

You answered your own question. ETH is like the the new walletbuilders; allowing dumb people to easily create their own scams but with ICOs instead of premines.

"The demand for bitcoin however I feel is more speculative since you don't actually need it for anything, except maybe to buy altcoins on exchanges."

I was about to call you a lot of names but then I checked and your account is barely older than 3 months.

I pay in Bitcoin for almost everything I buy online, it's the gold standard except it's actually more valuable and more useful. Claiming otherwise makes you look like a fool and makes me think why anyone would even care to tell you this...

Wish you could tell us why it's a scam rather of making a short post and dissappearing from the thread.  Bitcoin needs a strong competition otherwise progress will be slow

ETH is in a bubble, unfortunately, but come on now, a scam?

This is worth a look (http://populicapital.com/website-launch-and-ethereum-correction/ (http://populicapital.com/website-launch-and-ethereum-correction/)). I layered a well known bubble chart from Hofstra University over ETH/USD and the signs are clear that there is a huge crash underway.

For those in it for the long term, you are safe. In 1-2 years time, ETH will be higher again. It is going to pass out Bitcoin in market capitalisation pretty soon also.

But for now, a major correction is needed.

Bitcoin can be used for gambling and purchasing goods but it isn't required for those purposes. Ethereum can also be used for gambling and purchasing goods and I don't see any technical reason why bitcoin would be able to perform that function better than cash or ETH. The only thing you currently NEED bitcoin for is purchasing alts, and to some extent purchasing black market goods. ETH on the other hand is NEEDED for most ICOs which creates a much bigger real demand, of course there is a big speculative value to it but in my opinion less so than bitcoin.


Again you CAN pay for almost everything in bitcoin but you don't NEED it. To illustrate an example would you say an average person has an advantage in deposing fiat to an exchange to buy bitcoin then using said bitcoin to buy a computer game? IMO there is no reason any rational person would do that.

Even you said all of this things, I think it will affect at all to the ethereum community, they will still continue to buy more eth.
And also for me even I'm not an eth savvy, but that was before because now I'm an eth believer now.

Why? If anything, altcoins are detrimental to Bitcoin itself. In theory each and every altcoin is created to better and eventually replace Bitcion.

Ethereum offers nothing really useful (over Bitcoin) that you and I can use on a daily basis.


It's completely OK if most people doesn't have to rely on Bitcoin. Not everyone has to use bitcoin.

But it's still way easier to me than dealing with banks or even fiat. Being able to transfer funds across the globe behind prying eyes is invaluable to me.

Exactly, we need some critical reasons why etherum price goes down. Well i purchased ETH when the price was 0.13 Bitcoin but i will not sell my eth right now, i just wanna hold them and maybe spend some for new ICO that will be launch at the end of this month since they only accept etherum for their ICO not bitcoin. So much negative rumours spread and i've been told by some people to sell all of my coins well i'm not gonna do that, all i can see the price would be up due to the people will buy eth in order to join the ICO that i've just mentioned above.

dont panic sell, hodl. thats what im doing.

Please do get out of Ethereum people I will buy it all up lol and then everyone will return to their senses so I can sell it back to them at a higher price. Margin traders got wrecked on GDAX, well too bad for them, so much improvement is in store for the Ethereum platform.

seriously man. this whole forum is a bunch of little fucking kids yelling at each other about who's right.

The hunt for the most scalable coins continues.. NEM, Ardor, Pascal, VIA, to name a few... many have "claims" of hundreds to thousands of transactions per second but this is in a controlled environment, not out in the wild amongst networks. It's not just the transaction speed but also how fast it confirms in real world terms... say a coin can go from your wallet and show up as available in poloniex in under 2 minutes.. that would be the coin to look for.

To unlucky for you to buy at the peak price but if you could wait for its pump im little bit sure that you can earn with it, And the best thing for you to do now is to hodl since its normally happen for a certain coin to get dump since this tokens are been raised depends on its demand. So try to believe on eth since remember this coin is top 2 in cryptoworld and this one will not be easily to be erased on its state and dump harder than that.

Like how we believe in btc, eth will continue to operate even there is dump. Dump nd pump scheme were really part of cryptocurrencies market flows that we have to dealt with and watch out too.

ETH experienced a good marketing. And now it will walk from the peak.

This guy hit the nail on the head. So much FUD, opinions based on nothing, racism, name calling, bitching.......this place is horrible these days. No sort of overall community, anyone can just post whatever they want with no moderation lol.

Now with easy to release tokens, wallet builders and no real set of rules stopping hundreds of useless coins being created and posted.
People wonder why they get scammed? Because this place makes it easy for the scammers lol

ETH makes it easy for scammers, duh... What part of that are people not understanding? Oh, that's right, people blinded by $$ signs and shit. Many a shirt will be lost but you can't say you weren't warned...

I doubt anyone will feel bullish for a while after the network congestion and the GDAX insta orderbook sweep to $0.1.

Better wait the dip and buy back.

But the dump may be slow.

Fiend coin. ...hearing ya mate

You and others.

There will be corrections to eth but as long as the ico craze continues any major dips will be bought into. Also if these apps built on its blockchain are successful then eth will always be needed at a greater rate so demand will only grow in this case. Eventually if demand improves exchanges might make more altcoin trading pairs with ether allowing it to be used more like bitcoin. Also once gpu production catches up with demand the difficulty will be so high that noone will want to sell it cheap and that will also keep its price high. I think theres a better chance of eth price doubling in next 12 months then btc. But yes before that happens there will be corrections. The only problem with ether is its unlimited supply and as far as scams go theres been plenty of those with btc as well.

icos, eth, and its founders will probably get hit hard by the sec. insiders will dump before the news makes it public. once rules and regulations are established for icos they will return under bitcoin via rsk where they will flourish. bottom line is eth will be done. i expect eth in the 1-10$ range in the next 18 months.

I can see ETH back at $50 soon, idk about it being 1$ in 18 months, in a few years maybe. I do wonder what kind of boodbath will happen when all these big whales decide to cash out. This is a problem BTC don't have. Its a problem with having some many ETH in creation and an unlimited supply. ETH holders are so fucking stupid...

Yes I do agree because of lots of ico based on ethereum based tokens ethereum got famous and also every transaction needed some gas in wallet like selling and buying tokens .Now lots of ICO not giving profit some are fake.

ETH will probably always be relevant due to the market share, but it was ridiculous that so many people were thinking that it would topple Bitcoin.

LOL, yep. I used to log in here back in 2013 and most of the people were geeks that were actually into development and mining etc...

I guess those people have been pushed out.

A correction is always expected after a large bull run...

It mean using of smart contracts will block normal transactions.

DENT ICO Pre-sale begins in 60 minutes --->  Ethereum Blockchain will grind to halt. 

ETH = $215 and dropping, I tried to warn people...

Yes, this forum is now full of idiots talking shit in favor of Bitcoin. Bitcoin fags

a 75% correction from $420 top is $105

a 90% correction is $42

the elevator is going DOWN!

GDAX has compensated the loss due to this crash. It is not a big deal any more.

^Funny listening to the clowns above...typical FUD and weak hands who are panicking

Ethereum will be back up..and yes it does have issues..but its a work in progress and these will be resolved over time

The power of ethereum smart contracts is a game changer and a revolution

Don't forget that hundreds of the world's biggest corporations are interested in ethereum because of what it does

applause

Calling it scam will not make it scam. Please give so analytical overview for why to quit it? You can read my analysis here. It is just a natural behavior.
 
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1987291.0

Why did ETH suddenly rise in price in March 17?

the alt bubble is deflating, crash is imminent.

GET OUT!

I think its better to buy more ethereum becqause this coin will give you a lot of profit in the future. If you see price decreasing so you had a chance to buy a lot of ethereum with cheap price. And to those have ethereum dont panic selling and its better to buy and hold it fpr future purposes and for sure after few months or maybe few years of waiting you will be happy for the result of this.because ethereum become more popular and the price is high.

yeah.. buy it when it's below $50  ;D :D

Its hitting the 200 threshold right now. Might break through in a few minutes or resistance will push back up.

Edit:and it broke

its over for eth, the price will continue to slide, expect big drops as whales cash OUT.

i tried to warn you guys  ::)

ETH dropped $20 in just a few minutes and still dropping. There's like a panic selling in Poloniex today. I was thinking of buying some today so I can join those ICOs that requires ETH deposits but while thinking about it, ETH already dropped 5$. It's now at 0.0786 BTC in Polo 0.0781 in Bittrex.

let it slide down smoothly  ;D ;D ;D

I don't agree with your quote after doing proper research i can say ether is having high potentiality to come back .There is lots of ICO is happening based on ERC20 token every token transaction need gas its increasing day by day . May some scam ICO i agree but not all.

Most of all ICO using ETH Blockchaon ICO and ERC20.
Waves and Wings are too weak now.
Now it`s good time to buy ETH for <185$ per each!

keep dreaming, keep buying into these scam coins making con men rich. in trading, investing and in life, someone has to lose for someone to win. the writing is on the wall...

The problem with ETH is the smart contracts themselves. So I´m a developer and create a web browser. through "normal" funding i would get zero. But i decide to create a token and i get millions in eth.... i actually develop the browser. and then what are the tokens for? this is just one of the examples of hyped ICOS on top oh ETH. When this guys dump the eth, and the other guys panic. will see people hanging and jumping from windows...

Why are so afraid of ETH? In fact, it is developing very strongly. It can occupy a niche market. It is money itself, so we can not deceive only people for money that cheat us only. Let's be more careful in dealing.

Question.
If ETH has u limitec numbers. Then why invest at all?

If so many others are basing their technology on ETH (as it's superior?) and raising ETH in their ICOs, why?

Hmmm. I see that there might be some legitimate concerns why Ethereum is feeling the dump right now. I did read some bad news about a wallets vulnerability that it froze a huge amount of ETH and people can't do shit with their ETHs. But also there is one where he thinks all of this is just hype. Trying to destroy Eth.

I don't think Ethereum is a scam coin, in fact I believe this coin has a lot to offer in the future next to Bitcoin. Aside from it is widely and commonly used nowadays if companies create an ICO, people also like how its blockchain is not that traffic compared to Bitcoin.  And I like Ethereum among all other Altcoins.

How could people tell the ethereum is dumping? while the fact is it already gaining more value and the current price of it is at 340$ at this is so good to see and many people will see this as good indicator that the ethereum network is alive and top 2 coin to be stake on. But let see how those $ value rise since for these past days only the $ rise not the btc volume but I think it is been balance well.



Ethereum is not scam and it is been tagged for those manipulators so that they can buy at the lowest price.

Many scammers are using ethereum tokens and contracts to commit they fraudulent art. I think ethereum itself is good but most of the ICOs build on it are scams. I read online yesterday that 92% of all the Ethereum projects in 2016 and 2017 has failed. Most of the owners of the projects are just interested in defrauding investors and nothing more than that. However I am not seeing clash underway as we still have a long journey in cryptocurrency development.

It's just so funny how people make huge fuss out of nothing. Just because of a little dip in the price of ETH, it suddenly became shit! Permit me to remind you ETH is about $330 now. The gist is until you see the uniqueness of ETH and lower your ego to admit it, you'll miss out on the dividends of this magical currency ETH. Wait till the magic happens.

This is left for you to do your research well to get you hands on the 8% successful ICOs according to your statistics. Besides, the whole crypto world is a risk. You didn't get an assurance policy and I guess every reasonable ICO has a disclaimer

I think that ETH has a very good potential even when its dropping i think that it can recover because its now the top 2. Do you know what this means ? Everyone now knows about ETH.

Because its in the list so now more people are joining it everyday so its got the support.

I think that's one of the worst investment advice I've read in this forum for a long time. ETH is going up and up again over in time. It's a very good long term coin. It just made another %10 today. We can expect better results for Ethereum for next few years. All ICO's are used Ethereum to collect money. It's a live market.

I am sure people left ethereum after this advice are crying in the corner now lol. Ethereum was the reason bring me to cryptocurrencies. It is very strong coin. There are too many tokens over its chain.

I do not think so. Any reasons? Because Ethereum price wast 300$? It is temporary, now it price is 328 dollars and growing. For me it is not end

Exactly, it's just a baseless click bait title to try to scare off people new to crypto. It's actually been holding up very well, even despite all of the people on social media (looking at you whalepanda) who put down anything that isn't bitcoin. The technology is stellar and they have top tier developers working on multiple facets of the code.

would be nice if you could give some more input that just saying "it's a house of cards", like the reason for example or why you believe it's not sustainable, it would help us to understand your position. From my side, I'll tell you why ETH is not what you're saying. It's survived for about two years now (quite a feat in the crypto world), it has a market capitalization of about thirty billion (which mean people trust it enough to put their money into it), it has a fantastic ecosystem of thousands of projects building on it (have a look at ICO's), the founder is both young and very skilled, the protocol is being enhanced very often and soon many new upgrades will make it even more attractive, such as PoS or the upcoming privacy features.

I definitely don't see ethereum going anywhere but up! I plan on continuing to hold and accumulate my ethereum as a long term coin. I think we will continue to see it rise over time.

If you just done this you are absolutely losers, just imagine that etherum will be 1000$ in one year...

eth is a pretty good coin i do not understand what you are having problems with them. I've read some information about security holes before, but developers have resolved them pretty well. Eth prices are quite good and fairly steady growth

Seems to be a stable coin to me, doesn't go up by much but doesn't go down either. Seems to be content at the current price, but that may change if the eth alliance release some amazing news with new business co-operations.

Everybody expect $1000 for Ethereum, just like everybody expected Bitcoin to be $7500. Only time will have differences, but the target is achievable.
Let's look at that way, what would you buy if you sell Ethereum? Do you have better investment option? If you don't then don't sell.

After 4 months of watching ether drop vs bitcoin I'm not really sure if it's going to stop right now. This trend could continue for a long time

ethereum is a scam which enables other scams?
are you bored?
there are people who work 24/7 to deliver wonderful products on ethereum
what are you talking about?
maybe it can be dumped, but it isnt a scam that enables other scams :x

hehe, looks like your prediction was wrong. We saw some nice bounces back and there is still some room to grow up in the future!

what  abullshit Oo
 ::)

If we look at ETH/BTC parity yes, ETH went down from 0.15 to under 0.05 BTC. But if we look at ETH/USD it's pretty strong in $300. We might miss cheap Ethereum days but it's still early phase for Ethereum. It can achieve greater things. I wouldn't sell my Ethereum for $300.

I indeed sort of understand what OP is talking about.
Recently I also have the feeling that there are a lot of ICOs that turn out to be sheer scam.
countries are starting to ban ICO because of that.

If the ICO market continues to scam people's money, the whole thing will come down, including ETH's price.

I also expected that the price of ethereum increase at 1000 dollars next year . Ethereum is one of the potential coin in cryptoworld and for sure it will increase because they have many people until now buy ether. Even the price stock at 300 dollars thats good alsp because if you see the price before it's very big difference. Hold your ethereum to make more profit.

.... Eth will continue to go up until there is a substantially better platform to launch ICO's on. Until then... Give us actual news. Or fact based opinions.

And even at that time, when a better platform will come - I am sure it will - I doubt it will become useless, as there is still many value projects on it to make it worth something. There are many crypto-currencies which are useless but worth a lot because of a name. Just imagine what the name Ethereum could be worth in a few years.

Pretty blanket statement bro - what reasoning do you have for this?

That's also my determination today, I am accumulating many Eth in the bounty campaign of those I join.

What are you talking about? Ethereum is pretty stable right now and I like where it is right now. Ethereum is a very good coin and will be worth more when the icos will stop dumping ethereum.

We are now in the month of October. This warning coming from you was posted in the month of June. There might have been some who heeded your advice and braced for themselves. They have been bracing well and strong, and until now they are still bracing for themselves for the great fall as you predicted. And perhaps right now, their strength is slowly drained while Ethereum is still flying high up there.  ;)

You are talking about the second crypto in terms of market capitalization and volumes, which will offer increasingly private, secure, fast and economic transactions.
The fact that 90% or more ICOs are scams doesn't mean Ethereum is a scam. With that logic, even fiat money is the base of most scams.

If this is really true that ETHEREUM dump is live, then hope it will continue so i can buy more ETH at a very low price and sell them at a higher price later. :) It's always be the time i am waiting for that these crypto giants may lower their price some time so i can invest more.
There is no way i would leave ETH. He's the digital coin next to Bitcoin, IMO.

I’m not an expert on ethereum but if there is a reason to get out of ethereum is because I do no think we are going to see a resurgence in the price, I think Ethereum already reached its all time high in terms of bitcoin and I do not think it is ever going to match it since bitcoin is at the door of one of the greatest bull runs we have ever seen when wall street investors begin to put money into bitcoin in the next year.

I hope this guy understands that if Ethereum dies most of these ALtcoins will die naturally too, I believe for now looking at adoption ETHEREUM  is one of the few projects in the space that has a chance of surviving, how many projects can survive the level of FUD and attack and still be at that level

I have read about recent ethereum accidents and everything is resolved fairly well. I do not know what the problem.  Why do you hate ethereum like that?

this was a not bad suggestion. effectively the price of eth is dumped compared to btc value.
I don't think eth could be defined as a scam, but eventually could be defined as a test platform for new altcoins.

I think ETH will be around awhile because it is the basis for so many new coins.  Plus it is 2nd most traded next to BTC...

Ethereum is one of the most promising coins, relatively stable coin, bringing many new projects. I see no reason to fraud on the part of the team, leading to the collapse of the coin.

whoever say's that ETH is a scam is a nuts. ETH is no more a scam than any other coin out there. If it's indeed a scam or if it's indeed going to "fall" then you should consider that currently there are thirty billion reasons why people think that won't happen (ETH's market cap is 30 billion). It's like saying that a certain project won't make it only because you don't like the idea behind it. Ethereum has already proven itself several times and it has weathered all sort of controversy, and came back much stronger each time. If you invested in its ICO you'd be filthy rich now and people who gave up and sold everything are not left with much nowadays, it's interesting to see that patience rewards the brave in both real life and online (the finance world).

Mate it is not scam i use it very long and my friends do also we have never seen any scam with ETH. ETH is a great coin because there are also many coins based on ETH so you know that it its going to be good. Why are they making coins that are based on ETH ? For fun ? No they see something in it.

It's not, but only the haters will say that the ethereum as another scam coin. Maybe they are get paid by another platform to FUD ethereum. Ethereum as the largest crypto after the bitcoin. It may better to those are calling ethereum as a scam to go to the real scam and Ponzi just like bitconnect.

haha why are you too scare? I see that ETH still go up. It is the platform for the development of cryptocurrency. It can not die.

these tiny ethereum ups and downs in short term won't make you any money, the trading fees will eat through them since they are small rises but bigger dumps. and over time ethereum is a much riskier investment than anything else.

if you want profit try looking at the smaller altcoins which get pumped not the big bubbly coin which is already over pumped.

Why? ETH is maybe rising again or maybe it will fall down at the ground nobody knows it exactly so good night or and day whatever hehe ;D ::) :P :P

i don't agree with you. infact ETH should be ranked higher than BTC. in the long run, ETH will be more resilient than BTC. as more people build on it, it becomes even more valuable. it becomes a platform.

I read somewhere that they can print a trillion ETH if they want. How will that affect the price?

All these people hating ETH and dumping earlier this year all lost a lot of money!?

the price of eth is quite boring but at least it is going up a bit these days.
hope it will keep that up

It will go up in coming days.
Because Ethereum has many update to come.
You can stake your etheruem in your wallet after the Proof of stake activation.
It will create scarcity in market which will help price to go up.

Please explain how "proof of stake" will create scarcity?

I do not fear that ETH is a scam.

But I wonder if there is still so much upwards potential.

I mean it is valued at 31 Billion$ ...

Guys you do realize that, a lot of altcoins is based on eth ? And if eth dies, al of them will too... Eth won't just die, but yes it's possible for it to stagnate on certain price range :)

nice to look now, but what will it be after 1 year. but it is hard to see ETH fall down since so many Alts are depednding on its ecosystem.

Every time when the price go dump don't be panic just chill relax,be glad when the price goes down it is an advantage to buy more ETH for those holding coin for long term,but for those who or not they are the one whose selling there coins.I don't think that Ethereum is a ponzi scheme it is some kind of non sense issue.

I do not think it is best to dump and leave ethereum instread it is the best time to buy it. Why did you say it is a scam when it listed second next to bitcoin in the market.

haha. Do not worry. Ethereum is still a good coin with the growth in long-term. There is no reason to not invest in it

Let me ask you a simple question if I may?

lest say the owners print 999 trillion of ETH, how much upword potential would you have if that happened?

What is this based on, other than hot air? Scammers will scam, using Ethereum or any other platform that allows them to create smart contracts. or by copy and pasting a blockchain from somebody else's library (take Signatum as recent example). The community needs to educate themselves and stop falling for blatant scams, and those that can spot the scammers should report them to the admins. We, as a community need to do a better job at helping and educating each other, as regulations won't just affect ETH, it will affect all cryptos - apart maybe from things like AML Bitcoin that is already prepped for the toughest regulations.

To quote PT Barnum "a sucker is born every minute", and there's always some asshat willing to ruin it for everyone to satisfy their own greed.

As for Ethereum's future, the press and community seems to believe the opposite. https://hacked.com/is-ethereum-ready-to-play-catch-up-with-bitcoin/ (https://hacked.com/is-ethereum-ready-to-play-catch-up-with-bitcoin/)

After few months of creating this thread, we can see clearly that ETH keep growing up, getting more popularized and having the price rising too. It is nowadays the most valuable altcoin and I think it will become more needed in the near future, as the number of ICO's investors go up.

It will be much bigger than this in the future, the reason is very simple, lots of people using ethereum platform to create smart contracts for their business and this makes ethereum a precious altcoins compared to the others on the market.

Why would anyone answer that?? It's a ridiculous question. Eth is decentralized -- so it doesn't have "owners". Devs yeah, but not "owners." And they can't "print" 999 trillion Eth or any number for that matter. It's an established blockchain -- new coins can't be "printed," (whatever that means) only mined. And nobody has the hashing power to generate "999 trillion" Eth.

So again -- what is the point of the ridiculous fairy tale question?  ::) ::)

Etheruem is a scam? I don't believe that fucking question. Etheruem is the top 3 altcoin who give a profitable income nowadays. Etheruem was growing up, like bitcoin do. But i don't leave this altcoin until there still using it.

Yes, We can see that there are many coins are made of ethereum and people are joining it everyday. I and my friends think that ethereum will have a good price next year.

We think that the price would be around 500-1000 dollars. Its already listed second so its the second best coin in the world right now.

are you really sure ETH is a scam? give a proof it's a scam, ETH is in a top 3 altcoin so how can you say this is scams?

The header should say "Get in ethereum while you still can" some ppl get it backwards I understand though

anyone spreading fear uncertainty and doubt should be ashamed if they don't have a legit source or reason to blame any token. Yes, many tokens out there are worth about nothing and many ICO's are out there offering absolute valueless stuff to investors, but that doesn't mean that serious projects are doing the great. Ethereum has proved many of time that it is indeed serious and that it intents to build something big, which it already has done, it's just a matter of time until people start getting into etnereum and using the network to user their decentralized apps. It's a matter of time really, they have the first mover advantage just like Bitcoin and just like Bitcoin ETH will make the difference in the market and reward anyone who was invested early.

Hehe, there you go. Thanks for the translation  ;D Ethereum is on the up, big time, and we're nowhere near it's peak potential yet.

I agree, there should be limited supply and no trust. Decentralization was the goal of blockchain but with ethereum it has become more centralized. But who am I to judge, just another noob that dont understands the matter. I wouldnt say ethereum is a scam though, but many scams are built on top of it.


I think its not that hard to comprehend why this is happening. Many businesses realized how easy they could built a token on this blockchain and therefore bought a lot of eth and stabilized the value, also the following ICO craziness is a key factor of holding eth where it is. I wonder what will happen when ICOs start to get regulated because of all those scams. Maybe ethereum will suffer the most of all from this.

BTC will crash and die before ETH. The forks, slow transaction times and crazy high fees will do the job sooner or later.

Ethereum has become my favorite altcoin, and practically the majority of my transactions are made through ethers. At this time, bitcoin is only convenient for me as a store of value due to its high costs, so I will continue to support ethereum until something superior desplace it, which I do not think will happen soon.

I guess for now we are seeing an alive and kicking Ethereum. We will wait and see whether the news, bad and good, about Ethereum will pull it down or push it up. So far, Ethereum is still very much thriving although not growing as fast as other altcoins or even Bitcoin. Ethereum has not yet broken its previous ATH. This is a waiting game. But because of so many ICOs on Ethereum, I think it will hardly fall hard.

As long as project still on progress and the developer is good i can not say the token or coin is scam. Yes many people use ethereum smart contract for scaming other. But not all of them. Look at omisego, genesis vision, idex,monaco..they are all not scam. Monaco released their card. Omisego gives investor much return. Popuolous give many investor 10x eeturn. Dont spread FUD !!!

one of the mistakes that most altcoin investors make is that when they find some altcoin they think is good, they stick to it like a glue and never let go even if that altcoin is dropping or best case staying the same. and in case of ETH, the price has been slowly decreasing with small jump backs.

and while this is going on, the rest of the altcoins are getting pumped. there has been at least 3 altcoins with 200% rise every week of the past 6 months that ethereum has been stagnating.
i don't know about you but i prefer to get my money out of ETH and participate in all of those rises, even if i can catch 50% out of a 200% rise each weak, i will be making a lot more than holding ETH!!!

I really appreciate your statement, I think prlatform ethereum is currently often used for fraud by irresponsible parties, but there is still a very successful project using ethereum platform so I think maintaining ethereum is a good choice.

The big difference between ethereum and bitcoin is that when you are holding bitcoin there is nothing better you can hold but when you are holding Ethereum there is one coin that is better for long term holding and that is bitcoin, that is why while ethereum is a good coin to hold I’m not going to settle for second best when I can hold my bitcoin and obtain great profits as well.

I did not sell the ethereum and got a good profit due to the price increase. I'm sure that it will be poorly spoken about, but it will develop as bitcoin and bring good profits to its owners!

Please make some additional research why I/We need to get out of etherium make it more believable because we are also doing our own update (for those who have ethereum) on what is going on with ethereum now.

People are wasily believing to buy those crap coins that already issued by fraudsters. This bacome another problem in the future. A lot of the successful project right now. But the main concern about some peoplea re hyping shit coin.

In case you've all been sleeping for the last week, Ethereum is booming. Yes, there are a ton of scam tokens build on Ethereum, but that will happen with any platform offering smart contracts - or using cloned mining scripts. What we need is smarter and more informed people, that aren't so gullible or desperate to make a penny that they lavish praise all over this forum on projects that are obvious scams.

ethereum is the next base technology. if you want it or not. it will support hundrets of good and bad applications. it will remain. garbage coins will die. (1000+ of em)

ETH is a good project and it has obviously given birth to a lot of great smart contracts doing good right now. One thing we have to understand is that Rome was not built in a day and over time the platform would get better. Also, fraudulent act is not something that can be blamed on ETH and I would rather say the investors themselves should be the ones to be blamed for not making proper diligence before trying to invest in any ICO.

This does not really halt the fact that ETH really have some security concerns which has made people to lose their funds in the past and parity just got it even worst recently.

Ethereum is very prospective project with good technology and interesting offers for community, I think it is the top 5 currency on market.

i think ethereum gigantic rise was mainly due to ICO's, we will see how eth performs right after STRATIS / NEO / KOMODO are ready and used for ICO's.

no way back now.  :)  It Seems like ETH is consolidating...that's 3 mini consolidations yesterday (390s, 400s and now 410s). Be interesting to see what happens in the next few days. Good thing is I still have some of the stock in eth.

I always knew Eth would recover to its original all time high and even surpass the all time high, just didn't think it would happen this rapidly. People who FUD got losses I think but the rest of us are sitting pretty right now.

Still, I wish I had taken profits and reinvested when it fell - I could have increase my percentage of eth

I will not go out of ETH because i think that it has a good potential to rise in his price in the future. Today you can see that its over 400 dollars and it has always been really stable.

This coin will make it very far and many people are with me on this opinion.

This thread was created when ETH was on its previous high. The OP, maybe correct in his predictions. But we all know that any coins, after a serious pump will be followed by dump. I was not surprised by the previous dump on ETH.

But its look like the ETH has somewhat regain the trust of the investors and now and doing great!!!. And it even surpasses it previous ATH yesterday if I'm not mistaken. And for all those who are not familiar why ETH is going up,


Here is the complete article:

https://www.coindesk.com/ethereum-soon-launch-first-casper-testnet/

So as long as their is good news like this, ETH price will increase. Just a word of caution though, we all know that altcoins are being used as pump and dump, and we can't tell if this is sustainable long term.

Magic eight ball says... no reasoning, go back to school.

the price is already increase today. Eth is a great altcoins, many of project partnered with ethereum platform
if I am not wrong the high price of eth 0.12 a few month ago. maybe it will be reached again.

whoever made this post must be crying right now. Whoever got out of ETH just got smashed big time. What made you say that at the first place btw? Ethereum is a solid project and one with the biggest potential out there, it has far more use cases that BTC and it's far more efficient than BTC. It processes more transactions, will be soon completely private and transactions will be PoS confirmed instead of being mined, which makes the network more decentralized. Bitcoin from the other hand is suffering due to such things and I'm wondering how it managed to go as far as it did. Ethereum is way better developed and much more prepared to serve the massive market that will be incoming within the next years.

Eth is still less than half in price in terms of BTC from the time this post was made, so he's probably not crying. Eth still has to climb a bit higher to quench some tears out of OP.

Who knows maybe he got out with enough profit.
Nobody ever gets worse from taking profit.

I always had faith in ethereum and definitely still do. Ethereum will always have a good place among alt coins because of it's uniqe specialities. There for it will only get more valuable with time. I don't see any risk with ethereum in long term.

You're doing the nice thing, if you held some ethereum, you made great returns. I always believed in it and it didn't make me wrong in the past. The demand is great for ethereum in the world.

So far i haven't encountered any problem as far as Eth is concerned. How can a digital crypto collapse if it is very stable and even getting more widely used by ICOs today? Having a platform that is popularly used by alt coins makes you think how ETH's blockchain inspires future ICO founders and Token Developers.

For those people who sell off early then for sure they are regretting as of now. Specially I remember those days that price of ETH do play around $7-12 back in the past on where when it would dip people do easily make speculations that ETH is a scam and better to sell it off before its too late. For those who did sell then sorry since the price is $400 now and I'm sure they are regretting and for those who risk to believe are having a smile on their faces since the price give them some nasty profits for sure.

We should change this thread title to "Buy more Ethereum while you still can!". ;)
While some people FUD about Ethereum, it is refreshing ATH price every hour. Over 2 billion USD marketcap last 4 hours.

Buy Ethereum while you can currently price is increasing. Invest in ethereum it will give you profit, anyway its not too late to buy. I dont suggest to oust ethereum it has proven that it is profitable coin.

That is a correct decision hold it for longer period, it will definitely bounce back.

This aged well lol

This is why I think ETH has slowed down in the last months, some people thought that the banning of icos in China was going to affect bitcoin and to me that did not made any sense bitcoin does not have icos, there are forks, the one that has icos is ETH and if you look at the price it is obvious that it is ETH one of the coins that have been the most affected by those measures taken by the Chinese government.

I felt Dash is moving faster then ETH but many investor like Ethereum But Eth touch 0.14 last few month back and i also expect eth will go back to same value of BTC like 0.14 soon by next few month .

Thanks
Regards

ETH showed high growth potential. It should be noted that the influence of BTC on the cost of ETH remains high. I can not talk about the ETH as an independent coin, but I'm not afraid to fall ETH in the next year.

As a platform for ETH developers, an additional 2-3 years can be effective. Afterwards, it will be replaced by newer platforms.
It is also necessary to remember about the huge market of South-East Asia, where the ETH is replaced by NEO
I will not hold ETH for over 2 years.

I partly agree with you because there are too many scam ICO projects that can pump ETH price, but technology itself seems very promising

It's funny to read this post after 4 months. ETH will continue to grow and sometimes will fall, but next year it will reach 1000 usd.

True with the cooperation of humanity and socialized ideals I believe Ethereum will reach $10,000 this year ;)

I do not know why the author wants to withdraw all of the invivations to the etherium, but at one time I did not regret that I had invested in it and I will continue to believe in it because it promises a considerable profit

lol ETH just passed 500, what now? I'm kinda considering listening to your suggestions, but considering that you've been wrong to start with I just think I'm gonna keep dat ETH in my wallet and keep the profits flowing in. Quite sweet if you ask me. Why are you bashing Ethereum anyway, the project has been solid for months now and it's always evolving with new features that will be added and things that will improve the overall network. Some of the implementations will come within the next couple of months, which will further drive the price of ETH up to the moon. You're gonna have more of a reason as to convince anyone to not buy something than simply telling them not to do so. Give us some arguments as to why this isn't a good investment, we might understand you better.

whats wrong with ethereum?why accusing to be a scam?well its your
 words against ethereum supporters.there nothing wrong about ethereum
and as what the markets telling now he has a good performance and sooner
to hit $500 so whats the scam there?i think you have posted a wrong
 accusations .

Ethereum is the best cryotocurrency next to the bitcoin so it is smart to invest on ethereum.The price of ethereum also increasing in the recent time.I expect 2018 will be the year of ethereum because many ICO are based on ethereum so it will increase the demand and the price.So it is the right time to invest on ethereum.

And 6 months later, let us see the result

It is still Top 3, hard fork without issue , work flawless and help tons of ICO to crowdfund the amount they are looking for.

So, time proves everything :)

Strtange to say we have to get out of ethereum. I did get out but I will probably buy back soon. HEre is eth from wiki:
Ethereum is an open-source, public, blockchain-based distributed computing platform featuring smart contract (scripting) functionality.[2] It provides a decentralized Turing-complete virtual machine, the Ethereum Virtual Machine (EVM), which can execute scripts using an international network of public nodes. Ethereum also provides a cryptocurrency token called "ether", which can be transferred between accounts and used to compensate participant nodes for computations performed.[3] "Gas", an internal transaction pricing mechanism, is used to mitigate spam and allocate resources on the network.[2][4]

Ethereum was proposed in late 2013 by Vitalik Buterin, a cryptocurrency researcher and programmer. Development was funded by an online crowdsale between July and August of 2014.[5] The system went live on 30 July 2015, with 11.9 million coins "premined" for the crowdsale.[6] This accounts for approximately 13 percent of the total circulating supply.

In 2016, as a result of the collapse of The DAO project, Ethereum was forked into two separate blockchains - the new forked version became Ethereum (ETH), and the original continued as Ethereum Classic (ETC).[7][8][9]

I still believe that Ethereum is the best altcoin presently available in the market. According to me it will still grow further and touch new heights.

I dont think that we need to get out of Ethereum. It is one of the best altcoins. The price always increase. We need to be patient.

If it goes over 500 USD > Sell
If it goes under 400 USD > Buy

I think that works for now.

This is a surprising statement.
ETH is one of the most stable and useful currencies .

And finally is brake the 500$ barrier , I think that next sustainable level will be at 900$

I don't think it's stable of any kind. Just look at the chart.
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/ethereum/#charts
How is that stable? Looks like pretty roller-coaster to me. Nothing different than other coins.

I would say the contrary what buy while you still can. Now to the end of the year will be differences, so you can catch ETH below $ 400. That's what we have seen. When the whole market dipped. Because in 2018 I think eth would cost around 1600-2000 USD

I also think that the price will rise. And that's why. All of us are waiting for the capital tsencina to grow, mainly due to injections of new money into bitcoin. Eterium will also take over part of the new capital as a younger brother. In addition, Buterin updated the road map. ICO still in 80% of cases do on the platform Buterina. All this in aggregate will give organic growth, which will intensify due to speculation. From the point of view of smart investments, eth looks more reliably than Bitcoin

I will sell ETH now, but I will buy it when it adjusts. It is always a good coin for the development of tokens. Therefore, investing in it is a right choice.

Well, Ethereum is not scam. I have a positive thinking to this altcoin and support until the end. It's not fault of ethereum the wrongdoing of ICO. If I were you don't blame ethereum.

well thats why speculation rules here because of those ideas,lets just respect the
prerogative of others on choosing coins.and trust the coins thats on our hands don't just
make issues on the other coins because we have a faith in every coin thats on our hands

Why not just let the other coin grow and wait for ether to make his own way up don't
 you think thats fair enough for all of us?

Despite the fact that many people do not believe in this coin, its price continues to grow. Soon the price will reach 500 dollars, and in the future will continue to grow. I love this coin, it is very comfortable

Get out of ethereum while it's over 500 usd. Get in ethereum while it's cheap. ;D
They play with your feelings, don't you notice that?

I do not have nothing against ethereum, I just hope people here in the forum did not bought at the all time high because right now I do not see how ETH is ever going to reach that price again, if you bought ethereum before that or right now when you can get a good price then that is fine, if you do that then you can hold ethereum for the long term and enjoy your profits.

Not really sure to sell it out now.
I am thinking to buy more

Its unbelievable how quickly thing have changed in 6 months. Ethereum was close to passing bitcoin in market cap, but now ethereum is just a tiny fraction of bitcoins market cap.

I still think that Ethereum has a future. If its price is going down like this, it is the best to invest in it and wait for its value to go up. I believe this is just a short term.

Why do we have to get out of ETH when it is rising? Look at the price now, It has reached over $450 now. So, we should hold it until 2018. It will go up to $1000.

The problem is that bitcoin and the rest of the big coins are leaving ETH way behind.

I never considered ETH a worthy investment, but I understand that this currency is more stable than any other currency. Of course, on the difference in the price of Bitcoin you can earn a lot of money, but we do not yet have confidence in the crypto currency.

I'd love to invest in Ethereum too, not just Bitcoin. But I'm confused because I can not afford to buy cryptocurrency. I can have Bitcoin just from the Signature Campaign I'm working on in this forum. I also want to work on Bounty who pays me with Ethereum. Is there a job that directly pays us with Ethereum without a token intercession? Hahaha, I guess I was too hopeful. But maybe someday in the future there will be many people who pay Bounty with Ethereum in this forum. Someday I will hold and invest Ethereum for a long time.

I'm with you, I believed at ETH at first because he is rank #2 in coin market, ETH seems to be going down and down.
As of the moment, ETH is only 0.03 on binance from 0.1 before. I lost a lot of Bitcoin because of investing in ETH.

There's no very good reason that you accuse ethereum a big scam you just wasting your time on it get hold some of it

Then all the violas are a house of cards. Since they are very dynamic, and in that it is better to invest in bitcoins at the price of space. Do not advise people to do something and they will not send you there.

I wonder how could op called etherium a scam while its one of the best performing cyptocurrency this year its value increase almost $400 this year and its not bad If i have spare money I usually buy some small amount of eth and keep it because I believe that etherium is still one of the best creation and will continue the journey over the next years.  

i think this moment your totally made up your mind
about ethereum,and thinking this thread is all wrong.rising in
almost $500 per ethereum and maybe double next year..better
 make some good comments here and detract what you have
said half year ago

Ehm...you guys do realise, that like 70% of Altcoins are based on ethereum? It's not going anywhere.

I think this is a good advice. ETH are falling down. This is due to of the fact that, the investors are shifting to buy Bitcoin. They wanna receive free Super Bitcoin in this December. You can sell ETH now and wait until it recover to buy again.

If I did let go of my ETH months ago, I'd probably regret whenever I visit my portfolio and see ETH's price now. When I bought ETH I think it was around $300 but look at it now, few more months and I am positive that the rate will go higher than the rate today.

if we get out on ethereum all the altcoins in ethereum will be gone too such a waste to hodl some on its ERC-20 tokens

why should i do that?i trust ethereum and will still,imagine hows the
 ethereum price now?compared to when you post this.its a huge difference.
and now the eth is getting higher and higher.so no doubt that i support Ethereum

But it is normal transaction. So it can not destroy ethereum. This coin growing ruthlessly on small drops so in my opinion investing in ETH i still good option

OP is just one of the many, many shills and alt accounts made on this forum to spam our screens with pointless predictions. ETH is not a scam, not when compared to a lot of other alts. I never got bought into it, but I have learned to respect it for its growth.

P.S. $400 was achieves many months ago when Bitcoin was still making new ATHs and everyone was talking about the flippening, so basically ETH is just only recovering back its old highs and made new ones now. Again, thanks a lot to Bitcoin's impressive performance.

Anybody else think eth just going up in price because of btc value increasing.

Yes, i also think that ETH and other altcoins prices are increasing just because of Bitcoin. The value of 1 satochi is increasing each day. It is difficult for altcoins to resist to the BTC price.

If there's any coin I wouldn't be scared of investing, it's ETH. I think it's less of a gamble then almost any other altcoin to be honest.

I think it's much easier to speak on forecasts, at a time when everything is already happening. But as things stand with altcoin in the future, no one really will say. Thus, to make investments or not, this is everyone's business.

We get more if the price drops. ethereum is very strong and promising :)

Perhaps someone does not like to spend money for nothing, but basically make investments after a careful study of the information of interest to the project.

It was sarcasm obviously. Ethereum should follow up BTC rise.
If I had stayed in Bitcoin I would have more money. I still believe ETH will catch up soon.

current decrease eth price is a consequence of the growth of btc, and many coins are falling, this has happened many times already

price correction is inevitable. It will happen as soon BTC pumping stabilized. This one is a FUD, but you are always welcome to do whatever you want in your money.

I think you scammed by ico project based on etherium so thats why you talk like a bit angry.
But if yes, you should blame etherium but blame the ico project itself.
Etherium does not know the scam or not of the project but you should research it and decide. Sorry if i am wrong.

Great time to buy ETH and wait for the BTC correction.

if ETH is a scam, then all these companies in the EEA must also be scammers lol

https://entethalliance.org/members/

they include microsoft, inforsys etc..

only blacksheep in the member list is JP Morgan lol

NOOOO.

I ll keep my ETH.
It is just dropping now

Sad,... but it is okay
HODL

The truth is that some people have their reservations on a coin and they end up pouring out their hatred and acting all emotional about it. ETH is a good project, it may have some flaws but that does not mean it is a scam coin. This is one coin that has given birth to a lot of ICOs and for someone to relate it to a scam coin, then such a person is really wasting his time like you said.

That is one thing that would always keep Ethereum afloat. OP may not have that clue but it is best he really understands that now. No one knows what will happen in the future, but Ethereum being referred to as a scam is just one thing that does not even sound reasonable at all. It is going to keep doing well, it may have some competitions in the long run, possibly get pushed down, but it will keep staying relevant.

I disagree if ETH reached that price then that will mean that it will have a market cap that is too close to bitcoin and while an scenario like that happened in this year I do not see why ETH will move that much up while bitcoin does not move, when there are many reasons to think the next year is going to be an even bigger roller coaster than this year has been.

i would change the topic name to get in ethereum while you still can ;D

the only thing that bothers me (i might have not interpreted it right), but, if ethereum in fact does reach few thousands (or whichever 4 digit figure), wouldn't then the execution of future smart contracts on eth network be very expensive? (if we compare it to usd fiat price, which we are all doing)

Devs are working to lower fees and speed up tx/s

Eth has great devs. Ethereum 2.0 is going to solve the scaling problem which they have been working on since 2015. I don't see other projects is as this close to solving the scaling issue as ethereum.

ETH should be valued at $1160

Asides Bitcoin, Ethereum is next best crypto as regarding wider reach and acceptability.

I was hoping tha Litecoin would follow Bitcoin closely but it seems that LTC isn't ready yet.

Are you aware that LTC just landed on the moon?

That should be taken in action immediately, many investors are now murmuring about it so it would be good to lower the fees for the good of their user. As of now dev still in process tackling about this recent issue. Crypto should be a lower transaction fee and not this situation right now where in we suffer for a higher fee.

This price drop is concerning but I'm still going to wait before I decide sell or not. I believe that this coin has a great potential and might reach higher prices in the future.  :-[

what price drop are you talking about? it surges up to 530$ right now. it is all time high and might go up before the year ends.

People try to find ways to justify and excuse their mistakes, this is very similar to what happens to bitcoin, many people lost a lot of money with bitcoin with the last crash and they begin to blame bitcoin as if it is the cause of their problems when at the end they were the ones to decide to invest in those difficult circumstances so they have no else to blame but themselves.