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Title: S9's sold out
Post by: greyworld on July 03, 2017, 04:59:24 PM
Bitmain has stopped taking orders for S9's

Anyone have any idea when we could expect them to become available again?   Or does this indicate a new generation of miners is going to be released?

Anyone know of any other reliable sources to get about 10 (new) s9's?

Thanks.


Title: Re: S9's sold out
Post by: Cryptolator on July 03, 2017, 06:28:33 PM
S9 is pretty old in term of ASIC. The current ROI is really high if you find one of those. They hardly make 10$ per days.

You must be really early in the game when it comes to ASIC miners...


Title: Re: S9's sold out
Post by: mindrust on July 03, 2017, 06:52:16 PM
S9 is pretty old in term of ASIC. The current ROI is really high if you find one of those. They hardly make 10$ per days.

You must be really early in the game when it comes to ASIC miners...

S9's can't get old unless a better version comes out. S9's ROI time is low long because bitcoin's price is not high enough.

Don't look at other mining hardware while making comparisons. Nobody would buy L3+'s If ltc was still 4$. Same goes for eth and gpu mining.

You'll never know when will btc take its market dominance back. What'll happen to those alts then?


Title: Re: S9's sold out
Post by: Cryptolator on July 03, 2017, 07:07:43 PM
S9 is pretty old in term of ASIC. The current ROI is really high if you find one of those. They hardly make 10$ per days.

You must be really early in the game when it comes to ASIC miners...

S9's can't get old unless a better version comes out. S9's ROI time is low because bitcoin's price is not high enough.

Don't look at other mining hardware while making comparisons. Nobody would buy L3+'s If ltc was still 4$. Same goes for eth and gpu mining.

You'll never know when will btc take its market dominance back. What'll happen to those alts then?


Yeah, you are right, but the current 220+ days for ROI is a really long time. Of course if the bitcoins skyrocket to 5000$ then that would be a very different story ! :)


Title: Re: S9's sold out
Post by: vh on July 03, 2017, 07:16:19 PM
The S9 demand is still around.  They presale their gear.   Currently sold out, I believe, is a batch to be shipped in late August. 


Title: Re: S9's sold out
Post by: leowonderful on July 03, 2017, 07:19:15 PM
Considering the likely slower development of future nodes and less efficiency gains along with that, the S9 could well be an ASIC we see well into 2018. They're probably going to make more of them, at least until the S7 becomes obsolete.


Title: Re: S9's sold out
Post by: NotFuzzyWarm on July 03, 2017, 08:10:54 PM
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Yeah, you are right, but the current 220+ days for ROI is a really long time. Of course if the bitcoins skyrocket to 5000$ then that would be a very different story ! :)
Only in the crypto coin world would 'ROI' (and apparently defined here as purchase-price being recovered) in 220 days be called 'a long time'. Capital equipment purchased for any other business is usually looking at well over 1 year and more until break-even is reached... Why do you think we are allowed to write off cost of equipment/depreciation?
Plus, if in the USA there is this Section 179 IRS deduction (http://www.section179.org/section_179_deduction.html)


Title: Re: S9's sold out
Post by: QuintLeo on July 03, 2017, 09:27:34 PM
S9s routinely sell out on a specific batch, then a new batch gets posted for "presale" commonly in a week or two after that.



Title: Re: S9's sold out
Post by: Cryptolator on July 03, 2017, 11:14:43 PM
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Yeah, you are right, but the current 220+ days for ROI is a really long time. Of course if the bitcoins skyrocket to 5000$ then that would be a very different story ! :)
Only in the crypto coin world would 'ROI' (and apparently defined here as purchase-price being recovered) in 220 days be called 'a long time'. Capital equipment purchased for any other business is usually looking at well over 1 year and more until break-even is reached... Why do you think we are allowed to write off cost of equipment/depreciation?
Plus, if in the USA there is this Section 179 IRS deduction (http://www.section179.org/section_179_deduction.html)

You are also totally right ! 220 days is fine for ROI, problem with ASIC is the devaluation that is really fast. And when I say 220 days, it is at current dificulty. So, it's a bit difficult to predict the real ROI. I prefer video card mining since when they don't produce anymore revenue by mining, they are still valuable and could be reused for gaming. ASIC become a waste really fast compare to video cards.


Title: Re: S9's sold out
Post by: leowonderful on July 03, 2017, 11:18:52 PM
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Yeah, you are right, but the current 220+ days for ROI is a really long time. Of course if the bitcoins skyrocket to 5000$ then that would be a very different story ! :)
Only in the crypto coin world would 'ROI' (and apparently defined here as purchase-price being recovered) in 220 days be called 'a long time'. Capital equipment purchased for any other business is usually looking at well over 1 year and more until break-even is reached... Why do you think we are allowed to write off cost of equipment/depreciation?
Plus, if in the USA there is this Section 179 IRS deduction (http://www.section179.org/section_179_deduction.html)

You are also totally right ! 220 days is fine for ROI, problem with ASIC is the devaluation that is really fast. And when I say 220 days, it is at current dificulty. So, it's a bit difficult to predict the real ROI. I prefer video card mining since when they don't produce anymore revenue by mining, they are still valuable and could be reused for gaming. ASIC become a waste really fast compare to video cards.
Still, this could all change quickly. Remember 2014 and the Litecoin craze? Everybody bought up 200 series AMD cards and once it all collapsed AMD was forced to rebrand the 200s as 300 series cards as they couldn't get them off their hands. ETH is designed to be asic-proof but it is soon to become POS and it is still unclear whether or not other coins will still be profitable with so many cards mining on them. Even recently the profitability on Nvidia cards has dropped, I recall someone saying profit on GTX 1080TIs went from eight bucks a day to around five recently. With all the media coverage like on YT and newbies coming into play like never before, it's becoming increasingly risky to GPU mine.


Title: Re: S9's sold out
Post by: Unacceptable on July 04, 2017, 09:14:40 AM
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Yeah, you are right, but the current 220+ days for ROI is a really long time. Of course if the bitcoins skyrocket to 5000$ then that would be a very different story ! :)
Only in the crypto coin world would 'ROI' (and apparently defined here as purchase-price being recovered) in 220 days be called 'a long time'. Capital equipment purchased for any other business is usually looking at well over 1 year and more until break-even is reached... Why do you think we are allowed to write off cost of equipment/depreciation?
Plus, if in the USA there is this Section 179 IRS deduction (http://www.section179.org/section_179_deduction.html)

Another thing to keep in mind,rate of failure.....180 day warranty BUT,you pay for shipping & possibly (most likely) for replacement hashboard or controller  ::)

More costs to add to an even longer ROI.............one of my vid cards died & they sent me a free label & within 2 weeks after shipping it, I had my new card,no bullshit,no extra shipping costs,no hassle from manufacturer  ;)


Title: Re: S9's sold out
Post by: realproject on July 05, 2017, 03:05:25 PM
Bitmain has stopped taking orders for S9's

Anyone have any idea when we could expect them to become available again?   Or does this indicate a new generation of miners is going to be released?

Anyone know of any other reliable sources to get about 10 (new) s9's?

Thanks.

Are you search about AntMiner S9 - (13TH/s) Bitcoin Miner New (16nm - 0.098 Watt/GH), right??


Title: Re: S9's sold out
Post by: headnemesis on July 05, 2017, 03:12:47 PM
They're in stock (September delivery) @ bitmain.


Title: Re: S9's sold out
Post by: greyworld on July 07, 2017, 10:31:42 AM
Just got my order in, thanks.

Hopefully I'll have my first S9 mid-September, still waiting for my wire transfer to go through and confirm my order.


Title: Re: S9's sold out
Post by: bitcoindev2014 on September 21, 2017, 02:24:14 PM
bitman is great company. most of their products sold out fast


Title: Re: S9's sold out
Post by: Steamtyme on September 21, 2017, 03:02:48 PM

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I really doubt this, doesn't sound very legitimate don't waste your money.

bitman is great company. most of their products sold out fast

Great company might be a bit of a stretch, they have only recently starting seeing some competition on a scale that might make them try and become a great company. Just selling out your product when globally there is way more demand than supply doesn't make you great.


Title: Re: S9's sold out
Post by: NotFuzzyWarm on September 21, 2017, 04:03:00 PM
Hi there,

S9's are available in the market, just ordered mine and received it in a short time without any hassle from China, Man, cant say anything about new generation but the vendor from whom I ordered he had S9's, D3's and L3+. If you want to order S9's this vendor is trust worthy. this is their whatsapp number: +total scammer but please send me money anyway

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