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I wish good morning to everyone,
my name is Joe and I am new member of this forum. I visited it frequenty in past but never bothered to open an account. I was also scammed in this section by some bettor but out from him I got good method to earn money without having to risk lot. It's never wise to trust anyone who hides majority of his method(I learned that the hard way) so I will be 100% clear about what I do.
My method of making money(which I got from the guy who scammed me) is going to tennis court and using the delay between umpire's pressingthe button(who won the point) and bookmaker reaction. In practice it works like this: I go to tournaments and when its important points, just after it I make a bet knowing the outcome. It is getting harder to do it everyday and on each tournament I see plenty people doing it, but it is still more than decent profit. Also I want to be clear about everything: it's not possible to make each bet, sometimes it's working whole day with really small profit but it's legal and it's profitable.
I seek 2 kind of partners:
1) Scouts: guys who can visit tournaments and inform me over call about crucial points. They get paid up to 1000e per day(when profitable)+I cover all their expenses

2) Investors: guys who have more than 10 000€ and are willing to invest it. Just to be clear, you don't pay me or anyone else that money, it's controlled by you all the time. With more investors I can cover more than 1 tournament at once which means gaining more profit.


Considering ammounts we are talking about, I just learned about it and didn't do it a lot. Guy who brought me into this has won over 15k in one day on some tournaments but that's really extreme and it takes lot of money for that profit What I learned in last 2 weeks from trying to do this is that minimum profit per 1 day is around 1000€ while my best day was 3000€.
I have revealed my "business" plan but if you try to do this by yourself, you won't be able. There are tricks how to place bets and where, tricks with which I am assured that I will have some benefit aswell.

So you are inviting us to invest in your plan which you got from a guy who scammed you the exact same way?

And although you are transparent about your business we wont be able to pull this off by ourselvs?

This seems fishy to me  :D

I got scammed beacuse I sent money to the guy. We worked nicely first few days, it was good and then I gained confidence and for bigger profit sent him the money to bet. I had detail of accs he was supossed to use and 1 day money was gone and no contact from him.
I can't scam you beacuse I don't have acess to your money as I said, you are in control of it.

That number 2 sounds very confusing since the investors controls the funds. How are you going to cover the other tournaments if you don't have the funds from the investors ? Also it's really hard to trust someone you just met right away unless you have the personal info of one another.

I tell him what bookmaker to open and how and when to place bets, and then scout from field calls him directly and gives him notice when to bet.

so just out of curiosity you will be a middle man between the fixedmaker and the bettors right? im sure its interesting but the trust is really hard
to gain especially if we already taking big amount here, ill be going to check this and if possible if someone take this offer kindly provide or make
it open in the public so we can also try it out. good luck

That's a really easy job you have. It could have worked a bit if you were the investor, but you are seeking investor to pay the scout. Sounds like a scam.

I'm pretty sure that is very hard to pull off in trusty bookmakers, since they have good cover over their matches, and normally suspend betting on important points etc. Also in some times that delay happens, and bets pass, it's "normal" that those bets get canceled. I used to do live betting in tennis (sports trading), and from my experience I manage to pull that off a few times, but normally it's not possible (again, at least in big bookmakers).

You are wrong, it is possible and I have proofs for that.
Considering trust, its normal to be careful but lets check all the facts:
-you bet by yourself
-first few games you can just check how it works and all
- there is no way of scamming you.

Still very hard to trust this imo. How about you present this to a real life friend or someone that you think that might be interested on doing this? And if you are too confident of a steady profit on this kind of activity then I guess you better get a loan rather than pay an investor with higher percentage. Anyway 1000 to 3000 euro daily is more than enough if I were in your shoes.

I got a loan already but there is too many sharks in the pool and it is only matter of day/month when this will end. Besides, good partnerships are always great to have even when this stops.

So, you have been scammed by someone with this method and now you are trying to scam someone with the same method?
I think we are talking about 1 second delays between bookies and match and you are trying to find "investors" who will do what, call you every time when score changes?

If you read each post you wouldnt make such questions.
 As I said, I made mistake as I sent money to the guy instead insisting on calls like we did in start, it cant be hard to understand.
Besides, investor doesnt go and call me. First option is for guys who want to earn money without investing a penny. they go, call me and I do it.
2nd one is for guys with pennies who want to earn more.

Precisely, this guy doesn't mean well and I will advice colleague members to carefully scrutinize his offer of partnership before contributing any amount because it doesn't look clean to me so far.

Ok show us the proves you've got so that some of us might convinced about you. There are a lot of scams all over and so if you want to be trusted you have to sacrifice more by showing us tangible proofs.

OP, you're saying that you would pay the expenses of the scout?
So, I would be able to just say that I'm going to be your scout and need around 100 dollars to be able to get to the matches. What if I just keep the money?

You're going to get scammed again, OP.

If you are scout you cannot scam me. You go on courts, take few pictures with ime so i know you are there and I pay more than good for few hours of work. You tell ne overcall when to bet so you dont have access to money.
Considering investments, I dont like posting account screens here so anyone wanting it can send pm. Its quite simple method..

I cant share tennisbhere as it has to be taken in matter of seconds, but as a token of goof faith i will share one match with you.
Football Singaporr League Cup Geylang to beat Tampinet with odds 3.1

I bought this match from source I work long with and he agreed I can share now when starts.

Ok let's come from your way the scout will go to the court, and they will take some pictures, and they will send. You will verify that pic, and you will send money to them after that they will not give you information what you will do. After receiving 1st payment if they ask more money to tell the information what will you do? You will again pay them or not. Finally again you are going to scam.

read with understanding.
He goes on court, take pictures and calls me. I bet and he doesnt have access to my funds. i win, send him money for that that and if he wants he returns tomorrow. simple

Seems fishy and also there would always be a risk in gambling so there is no such thing as 100%,
Just be careful in trusting your money in some random person or some strangers.

So has this been deemed as not likely to bode well for anyone who partners up into doing it with this newbie account holder? Thus it is safe to say this belongs in the investor based games section? ::)

I've read the replies and it looks like OP isn't going anywhere with this deal, at least on this forum.
My question is, why are you looking for anonymous investors if this deal is so profitable? Don't you have friends and family that would like to get €1000 a day? I can understand that you're looking for scouts, but it's going to be much easier to get a quick loan in a bank than finding an investor here.

I would close this topic but want guys who contacted on PM to write their experience after 7 days and at the moment I am not accepting new investors, only scouts who want to work and earn money.
For all new comments, please dont comment if you dont know anything about betting. I know it's forum and open to everyone but to write: "There is no 100% in gambling" phrase is purely idiotic. We are not talking of Martingale or dices, we are talking about using hole in their system and only way you can lose is if you see wrong(if it's close call and you think other player won it and bet and its opossite way), If you do not rush in 100 bets you will have 100 wins as its simpele, you bet after you see outcome.
Anyway guys thanks for your time and I have message for some of you:" Take your head out of the sand". Yes, there are plenty scammers around but there are also good jobs and opportunities willing to risk for. As I said, I got scammed and I don't care about it as from this method I already earned more than I lost so it's a win situation for me.

It is not that easy to find someone who is become you partner in business especially you are newbie and you have no idea about management ant marketing of your coins at the same time. Trusting someone without any proofs of legitimacy is working and investing without assurance because they only expect that if they invest and build their own business with their partner they profit a big amount that's why some are getting scam and broke.
If you are looking for partner:
1. It must be well-known investor and business man. He's/Her skills and potential are at the level of a profesional business man.
2. You must know his/her identity.
3. Check his/her longness in business industry.
4. A successful man and always makes plan for the business.
5. He/She must have a goal.

I really like your model of business and your story but what borders me much is that you're new here and your trust score is red so it will be very hard for someone to do business with you. That's just my point.