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Title: How does an airdropped coin get's its value?
Post by: flo123 on July 08, 2017, 11:24:50 AM
I am just curious, how an airdropped coin actually gets it's value. ICO's in contrast are packed by ETH or BTC, but an airdropped coin - out of the sky - doesn't have any value at first.

What if i.e. an airline would airdrop frequent flyer miles, then they would also have to pack it by something - in their case the promise to get a free flight. But since the airline didn't get / didn't sell anything in the first place (nor did they opt in for an ICO in that example) and actually handed out those miles for free via an air drop event, it would lose out when all people then would try to redeem their free airdropped miles.

So how would an airdrop then work in that case? How does it have to be structured that it's a win win situation for both parties involved.


Title: Re: How does an airdropped coin get's its value?
Post by: Red-Apple on July 08, 2017, 12:04:15 PM
I am just curious, how an airdropped coin actually gets it's value. ICO's in contrast are packed by ETH or BTC,
in case you mean "back" not pack then no you are wrong, the ICOs are not backed by anything. you just buy ETH tokens and in rare cases use your bitcoins to invest in them. that doesn't mean they are backing anything!

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but an airdropped coin - out of the sky - doesn't have any value at first.
anything that comes out at first doesn't have any value. then it gains value based on its supply and the demand for that supply.
airdrop is just one of many methods of distributing that supply.

most coins use mining, some use airdrops, some use rewards in POS, and possibly other ways too.


Title: Re: How does an airdropped coin get's its value?
Post by: Fatunad on July 08, 2017, 12:46:22 PM
I am just curious, how an airdropped coin actually gets it's value. ICO's in contrast are packed by ETH or BTC, but an airdropped coin - out of the sky - doesn't have any value at first.

What if i.e. an airline would airdrop frequent flyer miles, then they would also have to pack it by something - in their case the promise to get a free flight. But since the airline didn't get / didn't sell anything in the first place (nor did they opt in for an ICO in that example) and actually handed out those miles for free via an air drop event, it would lose out when all people then would try to redeem their free airdropped miles.

So how would an airdrop then work in that case? How does it have to be structured that it's a win win situation for both parties involved.
Airdrop is just an another way on distributing supply of a certain coin which the things you are saying here doesnt really make any connections regarding on that backed system.This thing do happen specially on bounty programs and the value is the same when you get on joining ICO or even simply buying eth. You are still getting the same coin with the same value as simple as that.


Title: Re: How does an airdropped coin get's its value?
Post by: Ayers on July 08, 2017, 02:26:18 PM
some airdrop coin have restriction for example you can not join the airdrop like in picoin, if you are not junior, so newbie will buy the coin, other airdrop pay very little so it's better to buy if they have stake, you can earn from stake more if you own a good balance


Title: Re: How does an airdropped coin get's its value?
Post by: Aratatat on July 08, 2017, 02:31:49 PM
Only a limited number of users will get part of the airdrop. Sometimes other users fear that they are missing out on possible profits and try to buy in. And so a market is born.


Title: Re: How does an airdropped coin get's its value?
Post by: RichardThessen on July 08, 2017, 03:50:40 PM
You could do whatever you want with them. But there should be active trading for a coin to exist. This is just my opinion.


Title: Re: How does an airdropped coin get's its value?
Post by: speakoo on July 08, 2017, 04:02:16 PM
I think it's dev team develops to make it valuable .


Title: Re: How does an airdropped coin get's its value?
Post by: RandomEvent on July 08, 2017, 04:16:20 PM
yes, ultimately there has to be a product or good news to give them value. In addition, people start talking about the coin so it gives some easy PR


Title: Re: How does an airdropped coin get's its value?
Post by: nappoleon on July 08, 2017, 06:23:57 PM
You could do whatever you want with them. But there should be active trading for a coin to exist. This is just my opinion.

I think it's dev team develops to make it valuable .

yes, ultimately there has to be a product or good news to give them value. In addition, people start talking about the coin so it gives some easy PR

Ask your selves too on how fiat currencies gain value? in factual history, cryptocurrencies gain value same way fiat currency gains value.

As soon somebody accepts *something* in exchange for goods or anything, you've created a market.

(something === feathers/beads/precious metals/paper/visa/crypto)


Title: Re: How does an airdropped coin get's its value?
Post by: marknowen on July 08, 2017, 07:14:07 PM
Anyone remember Auroracoin? That might teach you something about the "value" of airdrops :)


Title: Re: How does an airdropped coin get's its value?
Post by: n691309 on July 08, 2017, 07:30:38 PM
The airdrop is a good thing because it involves lots of people learning and using that new coin that is giving away these coins, by this not all these people will be active in using this coin but a small amount of them will start using this new coin, start trading and so on the value of this coin will get a higher value that it has before.

Anyone remember Auroracoin? That might teach you something about the "value" of airdrops :)

Tell us that story!


Title: Re: How does an airdropped coin get's its value?
Post by: Mbokani on July 08, 2017, 07:48:27 PM
I do have a newbie question regarding these air drops,what are these actually and how do we know about these up coming air drops,i have seen recently some threads regarding it ,like if you have x number of bitcoins you get x amount of coins,where do we learn about these things,if anyone could give some information regarding this,it would be a great help.
@OP every asset gets its value if there are users interested to invest their money in it,you can call it consumer surplus. ;)


Title: Re: How does an airdropped coin get's its value?
Post by: 13abyknight on July 08, 2017, 07:58:44 PM
The value of an airdropped coin mainly depends on whether the coin would be useful in its promised ways. Eyebrows will be raised if it turns out to be a hit and people will start investing in the coin and try their luck at some profits.


Title: Re: How does an airdropped coin get's its value?
Post by: sinner on July 08, 2017, 08:00:37 PM
I am just curious, how an airdropped coin actually gets it's value.

people buy it

So how would an airdrop then work in that case? How does it have to be structured that it's a win win situation for both parties involved.

if the coin is useful, people will buy and hold/use.


Title: Re: How does an airdropped coin get's its value?
Post by: nappoleon on July 08, 2017, 08:06:51 PM
I do have a newbie question regarding these air drops,what are these actually and how do we know about these up coming air drops,i have seen recently some threads regarding it ,like if you have x number of bitcoins you get x amount of coins,where do we learn about these things,if anyone could give some information regarding this,it would be a great help.
@OP every asset gets its value if there are users interested to invest their money in it,you can call it consumer surplus. ;)

you don't, you just see it when your watching altcoin announcements and just so happens that the project's distribution method is airdrop/snapshot.


Title: Re: How does an airdropped coin get's its value?
Post by: klarki on July 08, 2017, 08:59:25 PM
It is better to conduct a motivated distribution.


Title: Re: How does an airdropped coin get's its value?
Post by: flo123 on July 09, 2017, 09:35:55 AM
I am just curious, how an airdropped coin actually gets it's value. ICO's in contrast are packed by ETH or BTC,
in case you mean "back" not pack then no you are wrong, the ICOs are not backed by anything. you just buy ETH tokens and in rare cases use your bitcoins to invest in them. that doesn't mean they are backing anything!

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but an airdropped coin - out of the sky - doesn't have any value at first.
anything that comes out at first doesn't have any value. then it gains value based on its supply and the demand for that supply.
airdrop is just one of many methods of distributing that supply.

most coins use mining, some use airdrops, some use rewards in POS, and possibly other ways too.

Well, my thinking was, that if you hold an ICO, then you will get ETH or sometimes BTC and have an asset which you can liquidate to back your own coin. In the case of an airdrop, you don't get anything in return. Yet I also do understand that the success of a coin highly depends on the acceptance and the liquidity, hence if more people than just a few whales own the coin, then the likelihood of a vibrant circulation and ultimately the success of the coin increases.


Title: Re: How does an airdropped coin get's its value?
Post by: hdasd on July 09, 2017, 09:40:50 AM
some team can release a coin free, and do work for it
in the future ,they would use the coin which they have trade BTC or other
they will earn more
that's my thought about the airdorp!


Title: Re: How does an airdropped coin get's its value?
Post by: psiksenz on July 09, 2017, 03:37:11 PM
The coin will get its value based on peoples perception of the value or future of the coin, or just from being actively traded.


Title: Re: How does an airdropped coin get's its value?
Post by: BitWhale on July 09, 2017, 04:10:56 PM
Alot of people don't like to admit it, but really any cryptocurrency's value comes from thin air. We humans decide it has value. All it takes is two humans to decide something has value in order for that item to have value. This applies to digital currencies, commodities, art work, music, advertising, products, nearly anything out there.

Even with stocks, one stock can be valued more than the other, and not every time are these values placed among things that currently exist. Tesla is a good example at the moment, DDD/SSYS is another good example from the past. Their inflated value came from expected future prospects, most of which never came to fruition. That's how one company with "great future prospects" but horrible current prospects can have a huge marketcap purely because everyone expects it to do well "in the future".

this doesn't mean cryptocoins don't have value, because they clearly currently do atm, it just goes to show how much of this is human psychology and doesn't really come down to any sort of valuation metric. It's valuable because 20k-whatever people currently say it is haha.

Think beanie babies & pokemon cards...


Title: Re: How does an airdropped coin get's its value?
Post by: iram3130 on July 09, 2017, 04:16:25 PM
The coin will get its value based on peoples perception of the value or future of the coin, or just from being actively traded.

As well as how it is used by it's owners and supporters. There are many ways of airdropping and most of the coins go wasted but some are traded and used by different sites because of it's unique features.


Title: Re: How does an airdropped coin get's its value?
Post by: renes on July 09, 2017, 04:24:27 PM
If it will be developed, other people willing to buy it and so it can be exchanged among people.


Title: Re: How does an airdropped coin get's its value?
Post by: AiWanChu on July 09, 2017, 04:32:09 PM
distributing supply of x coin will mean more people to shill it ;D


Title: Re: How does an airdropped coin get's its value?
Post by: White sugar on July 09, 2017, 05:44:42 PM
Mined coins also don't have value, but they are worth something and many of them go mewn.

Just another way of making the distribution


Title: Re: How does an airdropped coin get's its value?
Post by: marknowen on July 09, 2017, 06:16:58 PM
Anyone remember Auroracoin? That might teach you something about the "value" of airdrops :)

Tell us that story!

Well AuroraCoin was distributed for free to all citizen of Iceland...then dropped in value like a stone because nobody used it - and those who did, tried to sell it :)


Title: Re: How does an airdropped coin get's its value?
Post by: infer on July 09, 2017, 06:24:55 PM
It depends on the developers and managers who know how to make the coin greater and better with many uses. And then, after being convinced, investors will buy more of these coin and make it more value. Look at byteball. They are really awesome because right now, 1gbyte is equal to 0.3 bitcoin. They do not need crowdsale or something like that to make their coin valuable


Title: Re: How does an airdropped coin get's its value?
Post by: oddwh on July 10, 2017, 07:25:11 AM
Every coin gets its value from confidence in the system, whatever that the coin got an ICO, is minable or is airdropped.

So in fact, it's the same system than others coin : an active dev team and a good communication, with a good project that progress often will do everything  :)


Title: Re: How does an airdropped coin get's its value?
Post by: Zicadis on July 10, 2017, 08:11:30 AM
I am just curious, how an airdropped coin actually gets it's value.
What I have noticed is usually airdropped coins have a high supply and this kind of distribution is meant to grow speculation which naturally grows into demand and rise in value

ICO's in contrast are pbacked by ETH or BTC, but an airdropped coin - out of the sky - doesn't have any value at first.
Price of some coins is determined by how it performs during its ICO stage but  without an active community to show for its worth nothing. Airdropped coin get their value rather slowly as the grow with time don't expect a high value on the onset of the project

So how would an airdrop then work in that case? How does it have to be structured that it's a win win situation for both parties involved.
Basically airdrops are structured to stimulate speculation and grow its community and project, which is a win win situation at the end of the day


Title: Re: How does an airdropped coin get's its value?
Post by: KesoNie on July 10, 2017, 08:47:41 AM
The coin get its value because of the marketing or the way that the team works on their coin and their promised projects because if there is an action towards the promises then it will attract investors in the market that can possible give value to that coin.


Title: Re: How does an airdropped coin get's its value?
Post by: selline on July 12, 2017, 01:02:04 AM
I guess it depends on the developers and managers who know how to make the coin more bigger and better with many uses. And then, once believed, investors will buy more of these coins and create more value. See byteball. They are really awesome because now, 1gbyte equals 0.3 bitcoin. They do not require a crowdsale or something like that to make their valuable coins so they must be trying to make the coins could penetrate into high-value market. more and more users will be getting higher value ;) :D