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Title: Timed Retarget
Post by: Gamesfreak13563 on May 11, 2013, 05:25:13 AM
Why don't Altcoins have a timer that ticks down? If blocks aren't solved after 150-200% target time, it immediately lowers difficulty some arbitrary percentage.

It seems like a major weakness. Imagine a power grid failure and most miners in North America can't mine. Will the rest of the world have to just sit there while they cant have their speedy transactions?


Title: Re: Timed Retarget
Post by: 🏰 TradeFortress 🏰 on May 11, 2013, 05:25:45 AM
That's how it works on testnet. IIRC difficulty goes back to 1 after X hours.


Title: Re: Timed Retarget
Post by: Gamesfreak13563 on May 11, 2013, 05:26:56 AM
That's how it works on testnet. IIRC difficulty goes back to 1 after X hours.

I think it should be more gradual, not an immediate drop to one.


Title: Re: Timed Retarget
Post by: mr_right on May 11, 2013, 05:28:57 AM
20 min


Title: Re: Timed Retarget
Post by: oroqen on May 11, 2013, 05:36:02 AM
Why don't Altcoins have a timer that ticks down? If blocks aren't solved after 150-200% target time, it immediately lowers difficulty some arbitrary percentage.

It seems like a major weakness. Imagine a power grid failure and most miners in North America can't mine. Will the rest of the world have to just sit there while they cant have their speedy transactions?

I'd be more worried about the nukes/*insert any apocalypse here* used to knock out that many power grids across NA


Title: Re: Timed Retarget
Post by: DeathAndTaxes on May 11, 2013, 05:39:16 AM
Who's time?  Time in a decentralized network isn't deterministic.

Say x minutes pass so some nodes lower difficulty and one finds a block however due to differences in clocks some nodes believe it has been < x minutes. 

HARD FORK TIME.  Some nodes believe the lower difficulty block is valid and some believe it isn't.  There is no resolution possible.


Title: Re: Timed Retarget
Post by: 🏰 TradeFortress 🏰 on May 11, 2013, 05:41:10 AM
Who's time?  Time in a decentralized network isn't deterministic.

Say x minutes pass so some nodes lower difficulty and one finds a block however due to differences in clocks some nodes believe it has been < x minutes. 

HARD FORK TIME.  Some nodes believe the lower difficulty block is valid and some believe it isn't.  There is no resolution possible.
Bitcoin already has the concept of time. I think there is a 1440 minute time acceptance window.


Title: Re: Timed Retarget
Post by: VelvetLeaf on May 11, 2013, 05:50:37 AM
Who's time?  Time in a decentralized network isn't deterministic.

Say x minutes pass so some nodes lower difficulty and one finds a block however due to differences in clocks some nodes believe it has been < x minutes. 

HARD FORK TIME.  Some nodes believe the lower difficulty block is valid and some believe it isn't.  There is no resolution possible.

Hard fork time ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_2000_problem
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_2038_problem