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Title: What I saw in bitcoin 2 years ago
Post by: lixiaolai on May 11, 2013, 02:57:49 PM
I saw a chance that we could end tyrannies.

Around 210 A.C, in the East, a tyranny, Qin Shi Huang ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qin_Shi_Huangdi ) made two move:

1. Burning of books and burying of scholars ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burning_of_books_and_burying_of_scholars )
2. Standardizing the Chinese units of measurements, including the currency. ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qin_Shi_Huangdi#Economy )

Qin Shi Huang was perhaps the foremost ancestor of all tyrannies.

The development of the Internet has already broken through the information control to a largest extent. Until the emergence of the bitcoin, monetary restriction is the last weapon that a tyranny holds. But a p2p distributed currency may well render that weapon to be no longer in force.    

At first, bitcoin was merely an idea, proposed by an anonymous and well-gifted programmer, but soon it became an implementing social experiment ($1), and now bitcoin is becoming a social practice participated by many.

I'd like to see in the future bitcoin as de facto.


Title: Re: What I saw in bitcoin 2 years ago
Post by: gambit1 on May 11, 2013, 03:31:32 PM
Many people here share some of those sentiments I think.


Title: Re: What I saw in bitcoin 2 years ago
Post by: Deslock Darkstar on May 11, 2013, 04:11:44 PM
Agreed. That was the thinking behind the essay, "Bitcoin Smashes Empires"...

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=184953.0


Title: Re: What I saw in bitcoin 2 years ago
Post by: MPOE-PR on May 11, 2013, 05:19:32 PM
I saw a chance that we could end tyrannies.

Around 210 A.C, in the East, a tyranny, Qin Shi Huang ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qin_Shi_Huangdi ) made two move:

1. Burning of books and burying of scholars ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burning_of_books_and_burying_of_scholars )
2. Standardizing the Chinese units of measurements, including the currency. ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qin_Shi_Huangdi#Economy )

Qin Shi Huang was perhaps the foremost ancestor of all tyrannies.

The development of the Internet has already broken through the information control to a largest extent. Until the emergence of the bitcoin, monetary restriction is the last weapon that a tyranny holds. But a p2p distributed currency may well render that weapon to be no longer in force.    

At first, bitcoin was merely an idea, proposed by an anonymous and well-gifted programmer, but soon it became an implementing social experiment ($1), and now bitcoin is becoming a social practice participated by many.

I'd like to see in the future bitcoin as de facto.

Pretty good points actually.


Title: Re: What I saw in bitcoin 2 years ago
Post by: tclo on May 12, 2013, 12:38:34 PM
Once the bankers pay the politicians to make laws that anyone caught using bitcoin is summarily executed, then bitcoin will not be very successful.


Title: Re: What I saw in bitcoin 2 years ago
Post by: reg on May 12, 2013, 01:31:00 PM
The development of the Internet has already broken through the information control to a largest extent. Until the emergence of the bitcoin, monetary restriction is the last weapon that a tyranny holds. But a p2p distributed currency may well render that weapon to be no longer in force.

+1, I also envisioned the social changes this could bring about. "every act is a political act" (Rousos). However there is the chinese wall and taking out servers by governments etc. So it will not be easy but that does not mean it is impossible as the previous comment implies. reg.


Title: Re: What I saw in bitcoin 2 years ago
Post by: lixiaolai on May 12, 2013, 04:29:55 PM
Once the bankers pay the politicians to make laws that anyone caught using bitcoin is summarily executed, then bitcoin will not be very successful.

laws... traditional laws are hardly practical in virtual worlds. Try to observe the status quo: did laws successfully prevent the bittorrent file sharing?


Title: Re: What I saw in bitcoin 2 years ago
Post by: Buffer Overflow on May 12, 2013, 06:39:24 PM
Once the bankers pay the politicians to make laws that anyone caught using bitcoin is summarily executed, then bitcoin will not be very successful.
No need. Just like here in the UK, banks can simply refuse to deal with bitcoin exchanges. Bitcoins are pretty useless to us here in UK at moment.


Title: Re: What I saw in bitcoin 2 years ago
Post by: Jazkal on May 12, 2013, 06:53:05 PM
laws... traditional laws are hardly practical in virtual worlds. Try to observe the status quo: did laws successfully prevent the bittorrent file sharing?
true, but Bankers have a lot more power than the music industry.


Title: Re: What I saw in bitcoin 2 years ago
Post by: justusranvier on May 12, 2013, 11:32:17 PM
laws... traditional laws are hardly practical in virtual worlds. Try to observe the status quo: did laws successfully prevent the bittorrent file sharing?
true, but Bankers have a lot more power than the music industry.
Bitcoin users have a stronger incentive to make the currency succeed than people who want to download music and movies.


Title: Re: What I saw in bitcoin 2 years ago
Post by: reg on May 13, 2013, 05:48:51 AM
laws... traditional laws are hardly practical in virtual worlds. Try to observe the status quo: did laws successfully prevent the bittorrent file sharing?
true, but Bankers have a lot more power than the music industry.
Bitcoin users have a stronger incentive to make the currency succeed than people who want to download music and movies.

True- the ability to restore full autonomy to the individual for the first time in 6 000 + years is the most significant event so far ( the next will be confirmation of alien intelligence) in human history. Do not underestimate what bitcoin has done!. reg.


Title: Re: What I saw in bitcoin 2 years ago
Post by: marcus_of_augustus on May 13, 2013, 05:59:58 AM
Once the bankers pay the politicians to make laws that anyone caught using bitcoin is summarily executed, then bitcoin will not be very successful.
No need. Just like here in the UK, banks can simply refuse to deal with bitcoin exchanges. Bitcoins are pretty useless to us here in UK at moment.

That's sad for UK residents ... but somewhat to be expected seeing as the City of London and the Bank of England is at the root of the current era of monetary tyranny.

If the UK, the home of the enlightment reforms, cannot usurp the death grip the banksters hold over the govt. then it bodes ill for the rest of "free" Western democracies.


Title: Re: What I saw in bitcoin 2 years ago
Post by: lixiaolai on May 14, 2013, 03:45:52 AM
laws... traditional laws are hardly practical in virtual worlds. Try to observe the status quo: did laws successfully prevent the bittorrent file sharing?
true, but Bankers have a lot more power than the music industry.

... which is the very reason why we deem it as a true revolution.


Title: Re: What I saw in bitcoin 2 years ago
Post by: freedomno1 on May 14, 2013, 05:53:03 AM
Well I'm for bloodless revolutions I want to make and instigate the change and this is one of those changes  ;D
If people kill over bitcoin well guess it was cash so not the technology lol