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Title: What if someone sends Bitcoin Cash to a Bitcoin address?
Post by: marketorder on August 04, 2017, 05:07:39 AM
I was wondering what if someone accidentally sends Bitcoin Cash to a Bitcoin address? 


Title: Re: What if someone sends Bitcoin Cash to a Bitcoin address?
Post by: zarados on August 04, 2017, 05:11:36 AM
I think the transaction cant be done, it will failed because the bCh and the btc have a different blockchain. They look similar on address and key, but its still have a different place. So if u send a bch to a btc wallet, it cant be sign, and will fail I think.


Title: Re: What if someone sends Bitcoin Cash to a Bitcoin address?
Post by: virtual_miner on August 04, 2017, 05:11:49 AM
I was wondering what if someone accidentally sends Bitcoin Cash to a Bitcoin address? 

Lost it.


Title: Re: What if someone sends Bitcoin Cash to a Bitcoin address?
Post by: Smarty14392 on August 04, 2017, 05:18:53 AM
The person sending bch to btc address will surely lose it. Blockchain for both currency are didfferent and cant be mixed. The BCH sent to BTC address will be failed or lost. Perhaps while sending BCH it willprompt that the address is invalid but as the address for both are a bit similar there is a huge chamce to loose your BCH.


Title: Re: What if someone sends Bitcoin Cash to a Bitcoin address?
Post by: pizamoi on August 04, 2017, 05:23:28 AM
Everyone here in the previous comments are clueless, bitcoin cash and bitcoin use the exact same private keys so if you sent bitcoin cash to a bitcoin address the owner of that bitcoin address can claim it on a bitcoin cash wallet by loading up their private key.

In other words you lose nothing.


Title: Re: What if someone sends Bitcoin Cash to a Bitcoin address?
Post by: virtual_miner on August 04, 2017, 06:01:50 AM
Everyone here in the previous comments are clueless, bitcoin cash and bitcoin use the exact same private keys so if you sent bitcoin cash to a bitcoin address the owner of that bitcoin address can claim it on a bitcoin cash wallet by loading up their private key.

In other words you lose nothing.

LOL..Receiver can somehow claim it..
on other word you lost it.


Title: Re: What if someone sends Bitcoin Cash to a Bitcoin address?
Post by: Sithara007 on August 04, 2017, 06:09:24 AM
I am a little bit confused about this. IMO, if I had BTC before August 1, then both the BTC address and the BCH address must be the same, right? Or do I need to create a separate address?


Title: Re: What if someone sends Bitcoin Cash to a Bitcoin address?
Post by: redhorse on August 04, 2017, 06:11:52 AM
Everyone here in the previous comments are clueless, bitcoin cash and bitcoin use the exact same private keys so if you sent bitcoin cash to a bitcoin address the owner of that bitcoin address can claim it on a bitcoin cash wallet by loading up their private key.

In other words you lose nothing.

LOL..Receiver can somehow claim it..
on other word you lost it.

What he meant is that the transaction will go through and the coins are not lost in Nirvana. Of course, if you send coins to an address that you don't own, they are gone - no matter if it is a BTC or a BCH address.


Title: Re: What if someone sends Bitcoin Cash to a Bitcoin address?
Post by: piloder on August 04, 2017, 06:30:32 AM
Bitcoin and bitcoincash addresses are pretty much same so if you have bitcoin paper wallet or address & privatekey pairs than you can move both bitcoin and bitcoincash from it. So yes you can store both coins in the same bitcoin address if you have full control over that address but you might have to use different wallet to send them out like electrum for bitcoin and elecroncash for bitcoincash.


Title: Re: What if someone sends Bitcoin Cash to a Bitcoin address?
Post by: Herbert2020 on August 04, 2017, 06:39:38 AM
I was wondering what if someone accidentally sends Bitcoin Cash to a Bitcoin address? 

until today and possibly still in the near future both bitcoin and bitcoin cash are using the same keys. this means private key of bitcoin is the same as private key of bitcoin cash.
if you have a bitcoin cash address and send bitcoin to that address you can simply export that private key from your bitcoin cash wallet and import it in bitcoin wallet and have your funds.
if that address belongs to a service like an exchange you need to ask them to do it for you but they may not.

in the future bitcoin cash may change the keys to have a new address format in that case you will be unable to send anything to those addresses because if you put that in your bitcoin wallet it will reject it.

p.s. be careful when using bitcoin cash wallets they may not be as trusted as you may think.


Title: Re: What if someone sends Bitcoin Cash to a Bitcoin address?
Post by: DaMut on August 04, 2017, 06:42:18 AM
Everyone here in the previous comments are clueless, bitcoin cash and bitcoin use the exact same private keys so if you sent bitcoin cash to a bitcoin address the owner of that bitcoin address can claim it on a bitcoin cash wallet by loading up their private key.

In other words you lose nothing.

Yes absolutely we can,
BTC and BCH/BCC address are identically same,in other words they're living in the same roof.
even if you accidentally send it to your BTC address you still can claim it,
well another real history you can see it in here :
https://www.reddit.com/r/ledgerwallet/comments/6r48sm/accidentally_sent_btc_from_my_nano_s_to_a_bcc/

he did it,and you can see it how he handled it.
obviously,if you send it into third party wallets you need them to help you out.

PS : For now you can do it,but for tomorrow ? try to avoid this kind of mistakes not a good thing for you to do it obviously.


Title: Re: What if someone sends Bitcoin Cash to a Bitcoin address?
Post by: danjonbit on August 04, 2017, 06:51:42 AM
I was wondering what if someone accidentally sends Bitcoin Cash to a Bitcoin address? 

for now I think  we cant yet transfer bitcoin cash, it is ongoing maintenance or something, we will just wait for a few days or a week for us to use or transact bitcoin cash.


Title: Re: What if someone sends Bitcoin Cash to a Bitcoin address?
Post by: Rahar02 on August 04, 2017, 06:55:28 AM
Everyone here in the previous comments are clueless, bitcoin cash and bitcoin use the exact same private keys so if you sent bitcoin cash to a bitcoin address the owner of that bitcoin address can claim it on a bitcoin cash wallet by loading up their private key.

In other words you lose nothing.

Yes absolutely we can,
BTC and BCH/BCC address are identically same,in other words they're living in the same roof.
even if you accidentally send it to your BTC address you still can claim it,
well another real history you can see it in here :
https://www.reddit.com/r/ledgerwallet/comments/6r48sm/accidentally_sent_btc_from_my_nano_s_to_a_bcc/

he did it,and you can see it how he handled it.
obviously,if you send it into third party wallets you need them to help you out.

PS : For now you can do it,but for tomorrow ? try to avoid this kind of mistakes not a good thing for you to do it obviously.


That's why bcash has problems regarding send and receive, it has some bugs and must  be solved.
I have read a warning before send bcc into btc address which said your bitcoin will be lost.
Well, I don't know for sure because I have not tried it yet but considering bcash and bitcoin running on different chain, it should be impossible to send one to another chain.


Title: Re: What if someone sends Bitcoin Cash to a Bitcoin address?
Post by: kalodu on August 04, 2017, 07:01:57 AM
Everyone here in the previous comments are clueless, bitcoin cash and bitcoin use the exact same private keys so if you sent bitcoin cash to a bitcoin address the owner of that bitcoin address can claim it on a bitcoin cash wallet by loading up their private key.

In other words you lose nothing.

Yes absolutely we can,
BTC and BCH/BCC address are identically same,in other words they're living in the same roof.
even if you accidentally send it to your BTC address you still can claim it,
well another real history you can see it in here :
https://www.reddit.com/r/ledgerwallet/comments/6r48sm/accidentally_sent_btc_from_my_nano_s_to_a_bcc/

he did it,and you can see it how he handled it.
obviously,if you send it into third party wallets you need them to help you out.

PS : For now you can do it,but for tomorrow ? try to avoid this kind of mistakes not a good thing for you to do it obviously.


That's why bcash has problems regarding send and receive, it has some bugs and must  be solved.
I have read a warning before send bcc into btc address which said your bitcoin will be lost.
Well, I don't know for sure because I have not tried it yet but considering bcash and bitcoin running on different chain, it should be impossible to send one to another chain.

I'm not sure for bugs but if the private key is the same then I think you should be able to claim it in the other chains wallet even if you accidentally send the wrong coin.

Anyway it can be confusing I think the best advice is double check your transaction before you send.


Title: Re: What if someone sends Bitcoin Cash to a Bitcoin address?
Post by: craZyLovE0916 on August 04, 2017, 07:11:18 AM
Why don't you just be diligent and make sure to sen to the right address? :)

Serious though... this is a great question. No one so far has given a clear answer as to what will happen. I am very curious to know.


Title: Re: What if someone sends Bitcoin Cash to a Bitcoin address?
Post by: Minecache on August 04, 2017, 07:15:17 AM
Everyone here in the previous comments are clueless, bitcoin cash and bitcoin use the exact same private keys so if you sent bitcoin cash to a bitcoin address the owner of that bitcoin address can claim it on a bitcoin cash wallet by loading up their private key.

In other words you lose nothing.
What happens depends on whether or not the address was created before or after the split.


Title: Re: What if someone sends Bitcoin Cash to a Bitcoin address?
Post by: poplolnman on August 04, 2017, 07:18:19 AM
I was wondering what if someone accidentally sends Bitcoin Cash to a Bitcoin address? 

until today and possibly still in the near future both bitcoin and bitcoin cash are using the same keys. this means private key of bitcoin is the same as private key of bitcoin cash.
if you have a bitcoin cash address and send bitcoin to that address you can simply export that private key from your bitcoin cash wallet and import it in bitcoin wallet and have your funds.
if that address belongs to a service like an exchange you need to ask them to do it for you but they may not.

in the future bitcoin cash may change the keys to have a new address format in that case you will be unable to send anything to those addresses because if you put that in your bitcoin wallet it will reject it.

p.s. be careful when using bitcoin cash wallets they may not be as trusted as you may think.
yeah i agree , it's a new coin with new developer and still in developing. even coinbase couldn't say yet that bitcoincash network completely safe at least until next year .... they said. i personally didn't use that strange coin even it's created from bitcoin fork, so i don't care much about that :D . goodluck and be safe.


Title: Re: What if someone sends Bitcoin Cash to a Bitcoin address?
Post by: clarkgeneral86 on August 04, 2017, 07:31:03 AM
I think you will lose Bitcoincash that you sent to BTC address, there is no way to recover. Who will try it? :D


Title: Re: What if someone sends Bitcoin Cash to a Bitcoin address?
Post by: tondiego on August 04, 2017, 07:36:03 AM
Lotsa people don't understand what the fork means in reality. I'll try to explain it in a simplified way on this case.

On the 1st of August 2017 a new blockchain was created. It was created as a copy of existing one. So all BTC addresses to exist prior to fork, exist on both blockchains now. Meaning if you send your BCH to address created prior to fork, your BCH will be sent to address within BCH blockchain, as it is now completely separate blockchain from BTC.

If you try to send your BCH to BTC address created after the fork, it does nothing. It is the same situation if you would send the BTC to made up address. Such transaction cannot be confirmed by any node.

It is basically the same question if it is possible to send BTC to Litecoin address for example. Answer is no, it is NOT.


Title: Re: What if someone sends Bitcoin Cash to a Bitcoin address?
Post by: karmamiu on August 04, 2017, 08:26:08 AM
     Oh I think it wont be successful anyway, and if it will be, eventually it will just lose, initially they have different address, second one maybe the blockchain will not support this kind of transaction just maybe for the meantime. Third one I think the confirmation or transaction wont be approved anyway so i think it will just fail.


Title: Re: What if someone sends Bitcoin Cash to a Bitcoin address?
Post by: dwieyani on August 04, 2017, 09:17:40 AM
All transactions can no longer be used, because bCh and btc have different blockchain that will fail. All the same but there is a difference locked entry.


Title: Re: What if someone sends Bitcoin Cash to a Bitcoin address?
Post by: nydiacaskey01 on August 04, 2017, 09:22:31 AM
I was wondering what if someone accidentally sends Bitcoin Cash to a Bitcoin address? 
I saw a post in twitter from one of the staff I think of Bittrex that they will not do anything if anyone accidentally sent BTC to a BCC wallet and vise versa. So better be careful in sending those funds and double check the address if address is correct. Don't even bother to open a ticket according to the post. Its irreversible for now. I am not sure with other exchange sites.


Title: Re: What if someone sends Bitcoin Cash to a Bitcoin address?
Post by: PhucS on August 04, 2017, 09:52:25 AM
A very interesting question, this is also the thing that not only you but a lot of people are wondering, do not know, me too. I think it would be a bad thing to send Bitcoin Cash to Bitcoin. Bitcoin Cash is extracted from Bitcoin, they are different, each blockchain is completely different. If sending Bitcoin cash to Bitcoin address is very high possibility that the transaction will not be able to perform and then the BCC will be at risk of being lost and disappear, you will not be able to find it again


Title: Re: What if someone sends Bitcoin Cash to a Bitcoin address?
Post by: nakata90 on August 04, 2017, 10:13:30 AM
I was wondering what if someone accidentally sends Bitcoin Cash to a Bitcoin address? 
I saw a post in twitter from one of the staff I think of Bittrex that they will not do anything if anyone accidentally sent BTC to a BCC wallet and vise versa. So better be careful in sending those funds and double check the address if address is correct. Don't even bother to open a ticket according to the post. Its irreversible for now. I am not sure with other exchange sites.
Not only Bittrex exchange, any exchange have pair BCC are warning be carefully before sending Bitcoin Cash to their Wallet, if user have mistaken, they can't helps this user and this amount will loss all.


Title: Re: What if someone sends Bitcoin Cash to a Bitcoin address?
Post by: amr1001 on October 08, 2017, 11:07:15 PM
Hello,

I sent 0.1 Bitcoin from my Blockchain.info wallet to Bitcoin Cash Address on Kraken.com ( my brother account, he is new to crypto)

Kraken.com support say they cannot help! They are not friendly they say they do not want waste the time/cost of developers on this!

What can I do not to restore my 0.1 Bitcoin.

You advice is appreciated.How can I push Kraken.com to restore it?

Thanks
Amro


Title: Re: What if someone sends Bitcoin Cash to a Bitcoin address?
Post by: Teraboy on October 08, 2017, 11:18:51 PM
I was wondering what if someone accidentally sends Bitcoin Cash to a Bitcoin address? 
I saw a post in twitter from one of the staff I think of Bittrex that they will not do anything if anyone accidentally sent BTC to a BCC wallet and vise versa. So better be careful in sending those funds and double check the address if address is correct. Don't even bother to open a ticket according to the post. Its irreversible for now. I am not sure with other exchange sites.
That's right, bittrex is not going to investigate the BCH that wrongly sent to bitcoin address, but, they may demand some bitcoin if you really want them to do the investigation, so there's possibility to recover your BCH back but just, you need to spend some of money.


Title: Re: What if someone sends Bitcoin Cash to a Bitcoin address?
Post by: ZaynDale on October 26, 2017, 03:46:02 PM
I heard about the issue before that someone is sending Bitcoin Cash to Bitcoin since both has the same way format and number of character address,then his Bitcoin was lost and have nothing with it. Both parties have no idea how'd it happen. That's why birth of Bitcoin Gold amended and added some features that can be avoided the same case.


Title: Re: What if someone sends Bitcoin Cash to a Bitcoin address?
Post by: Gyro on October 26, 2017, 03:54:48 PM
I heard about the issue before that someone is sending Bitcoin Cash to Bitcoin since both has the same way format and number of character address,then his Bitcoin was lost and have nothing with it. Both parties have no idea how'd it happen. That's why birth of Bitcoin Gold amended and added some features that can be avoided the same case.

You're an idiot. all three share the same addresses.


Title: Re: What if someone sends Bitcoin Cash to a Bitcoin address?
Post by: spadormie on October 26, 2017, 04:00:35 PM
This is how it goes. If you send a coin to a different address, then your coin will vanish. And it would be not the exchanges fault, it is yours. Be careful in sending your coins to someone else's address. You might send yours to an address that is not intended for that coin. All you're doing is sending those coins to nothing.


Title: Re: What if someone sends Bitcoin Cash to a Bitcoin address?
Post by: ulhaq on November 23, 2017, 04:37:56 AM
Everyone here in the previous comments are clueless, bitcoin cash and bitcoin use the exact same private keys so if you sent bitcoin cash to a bitcoin address the owner of that bitcoin address can claim it on a bitcoin cash wallet by loading up their private key.

In other words you lose nothing.
What happens depends on whether or not the address was created before or after the split.

Why would it matter if the address was created before or after the split? If it was sent to an address for which someone knows the private key, then they should also have the private key in bitcoin cash.


Title: Re: What if someone sends Bitcoin Cash to a Bitcoin address?
Post by: skabooboo on January 29, 2018, 01:27:39 AM
Well yours truly has been there done that and with no great success....let me explain....

Totally newbie to the Bitcoin world. Went to get a BCH wallet and put money on it, didn't even know what the difference was between BCH and BTC

Made 3 transactions sending BCH to BTC Wallets....when you check on https://blockchair.com/ (which I was advised to do by a senior member) you see that the transaction went through.

When I go on my BCH wallet I see that the 3 transactions are confirmed on blockchain between 60 to 197 times and counting. So as far as I know the sellers (sent it to two different people on 2 different addresses) received it. But they both have been pestering me that they didn't.

Now because I asked on this forum and I was told that they did receive it and because I see that the transactions are confirmed on my end I told them both that they were playing with me and they told me that I was messing with them. So now I am really confused.

- Are those BCH lost in limbo?  
- Did they receive it and are just messing with me?
- Can we send BCH to BTC Wallet/Addresses without issue?
- Would sending BCH to BTC create delays?

It seems that one person says one thing and one person says it's opposite....would be so great to have a definitive answer on the topic.

Here are the 2 addresses I sent to:

1A6y6LJ2qqLZoYP1ir2sUkaEZn3L6S2o2F = This one sent twice. Mr one

1EY9X5MHsNMtApZrBN22yd4uGhyWLSogKF = This one sent once. Mr two

Also other question on the back of this; Mr two asked me to send him my bitcoin address so he could check to see if i made the transaction. First of all he said bitcoin address and not bitcoin cash (but to get the record straight I told Mr two that I was sending BCH and NOT BTC and he said that it was ok). Am I at risk if I give him my address? and if I do which one should I give him? (I used the BCH wallet from bitcoin.com) and yes you can give me the answer as if you were talking to a 6years old because right now that's exactly like I feel.

Thanks!

S.



Title: Re: What if someone sends Bitcoin Cash to a Bitcoin address?
Post by: hadveach on January 29, 2018, 01:35:06 AM
although bitcoin cash is a fractional result of BTC fork, but I think you can not send direct bitcoin cash to BTC address. you must first convert bitcoin cash into bitcoin in exchange.
like you are sending ETH to a bitcoin address, and that's not possible.


Title: Re: What if someone sends Bitcoin Cash to a Bitcoin address?
Post by: ulhaq on January 29, 2018, 06:44:18 AM
Well yours truly has been there done that and with no great success....let me explain....

Totally newbie to the Bitcoin world. Went to get a BCH wallet and put money on it, didn't even know what the difference was between BCH and BTC

Made 3 transactions sending BCH to BTC Wallets....when you check on https://blockchair.com/ (which I was advised to do by a senior member) you see that the transaction went through.

When I go on my BCH wallet I see that the 3 transactions are confirmed on blockchain between 60 to 197 times and counting. So as far as I know the sellers (sent it to two different people on 2 different addresses) received it. But they both have been pestering me that they didn't.

Now because I asked on this forum and I was told that they did receive it and because I see that the transactions are confirmed on my end I told them both that they were playing with me and they told me that I was messing with them. So now I am really confused.

- Are those BCH lost in limbo?  
- Did they receive it and are just messing with me?
- Can we send BCH to BTC Wallet/Addresses without issue?
- Would sending BCH to BTC create delays?

It seems that one person says one thing and one person says it's opposite....would be so great to have a definitive answer on the topic.

Here are the 2 addresses I sent to:

1A6y6LJ2qqLZoYP1ir2sUkaEZn3L6S2o2F = This one sent twice. Mr one

1EY9X5MHsNMtApZrBN22yd4uGhyWLSogKF = This one sent once. Mr two

Also other question on the back of this; Mr two asked me to send him my bitcoin address so he could check to see if i made the transaction. First of all he said bitcoin address and not bitcoin cash (but to get the record straight I told Mr two that I was sending BCH and NOT BTC and he said that it was ok). Am I at risk if I give him my address? and if I do which one should I give him? (I used the BCH wallet from bitcoin.com) and yes you can give me the answer as if you were talking to a 6years old because right now that's exactly like I feel.

Thanks!

S.



As explained above, I don't think it's possible to send bitcoin to a bitcoin cash address, and vice-versa. Which one did you buy, bitcoin or bitcoin cash?

All addresses will be possible on both bitcoin and bitcoin cash. The first address you posted, there are balances sent to both the bitcoin and bitcoin cash address within the past couple days (3 transactions total). I do not know if it was you or not.

The 2nd address only has a transaction on bitcoin cash, not on bitcoin, also within the past couple days.


With regards to your 2nd question, it does not make any sense for him to ask what your address is to know if the transaction was made. The blockchain is public, so anyone can look up the sending address and pretend it was theirs (to pretend that they made the payment, and then try to claim the product). That's why vendors will typically generate a new address for every transaction. If they only gave an address to 1 person, then the payment sent there must be from that person. He should be able to claim the bitcoin cash in that address by generating a bitcoin cash address corresponding to that bitcoin address, and then use his private key.

It's okay for you to publish your address, but you should never publish your private key.


Title: Re: What if someone sends Bitcoin Cash to a Bitcoin address?
Post by: Kaan53 on February 01, 2018, 11:22:27 PM
Bitcoin cash can not send to bitcoin because you have to translate it first to bitcoin so you can send it to bitcoin.


Title: Re: What if someone sends Bitcoin Cash to a Bitcoin address?
Post by: Fire316 on February 01, 2018, 11:55:47 PM
    If someone sends bitcoin cash to a bitcoin address, transaction cannot be process if there is a warning that tells address did not match. But sometimes if there is no need to confirm first before you send,sure you lose your coins because they are different blockchains. Bitcoins cash address is different to Bitcoin or BTC address.


Title: Re: What if someone sends Bitcoin Cash to a Bitcoin address?
Post by: IfixTchenTchen on February 02, 2018, 12:05:01 AM
I was wondering what if someone accidentally sends Bitcoin Cash to a Bitcoin address? 

You would just lose you money. You may have noticed that a lot of exchanges warn you of "not sending Bitcoin Cash to Bitcoin wallets". There is a reason...


Title: Re: What if someone sends Bitcoin Cash to a Bitcoin address?
Post by: denzkilim on February 02, 2018, 12:11:23 AM
I was wondering what if someone accidentally sends Bitcoin Cash to a Bitcoin address? 
I saw a post in twitter from one of the staff I think of Bittrex that they will not do anything if anyone accidentally sent BTC to a BCC wallet and vise versa. So better be careful in sending those funds and double check the address if address is correct. Don't even bother to open a ticket according to the post. Its irreversible for now. I am not sure with other exchange sites.
This two coins have different blockchain and if bitcoin is sent or accidentally sent to a bitcoin cash address it will surely failed just like the other kinds of coins if you do the same it will surely fail. So it is better to always double checks or make a triple or more checks before sending your funds, especially those huge funds. Prevention is better than cure just like the doctor said, if you know what I mean. 8)


Title: Re: What if someone sends Bitcoin Cash to a Bitcoin address?
Post by: rizkyhiw on February 02, 2018, 05:22:37 AM
I was wondering what if someone accidentally sends Bitcoin Cash to a Bitcoin address? 
Some of my friends once sent their bch to their btc wallet, and they did not get any.
I mean their transaction process was successfully sent, but they never received their bch, just disappeared.
Bch and btc are different, they need different wallets, you can not store them both simultaneously.


Title: Re: What if someone sends Bitcoin Cash to a Bitcoin address?
Post by: HashieNewb on February 06, 2018, 11:49:55 PM
All transactions can no longer be used, because bCh and btc have different blockchain that will fail. All the same but there is a difference locked entry.

Bitcoin and Bitcoin Cash is two very different things. That is why there was a war between the two coins when Bitcoin Cash declared itself to be the "Original" Bitcoin.