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Title: Seed Phrase BIP 44 Ledger Nano S 24 Words and one Word are away .
Post by: ostsee77 on August 04, 2017, 02:02:45 PM
I have a Ledger Nano S with a BTC Wallet
The Wallet is ok. Than i will update.  >:(   It did not work 
Then I entered the Ledger three times the wrong password So that it is resetted .
OK. Your devise has been reset ( 3 wrong PIN )

Than i will restore configuration . And what i see  :o :o :o
24 words must we have. i have 23 words . word number 12 is missing
I forgot to write it down . Simply overlooked

and now i can not restore my BTC Wallet from Ledger Nano S . The word is missing .
Word 12 is ???  puzzle,mist,verifi,view,ankle etc  ???  ???

There is a possibility to restore the wallet  . My nerves are at the end guys  ;D
its friday the 13. i think jason come to me




Title: Re: Seed Phrase BIP 44 Ledger Nano S 24 Words and one Word are away .
Post by: efeaydin on August 04, 2017, 02:25:54 PM
Does something happen when you enter wrong seed? If no, you can find that word with a brute force attack. It will take maximum 1 day to find it (if your system isn't really bad).


Title: Re: Seed Phrase BIP 44 Ledger Nano S 24 Words and one Word are away .
Post by: ostsee77 on August 04, 2017, 02:37:48 PM
Does something happen when you enter wrong seed? If no, you can find that word with a brute force attack. It will take maximum 1 day to find it (if your system isn't really bad).

nothing happens . i have enter 6-7 wrong seed  .i can more and more anno 2039  ;D
I have never done that > brute force attack !  Never busy.sorry
i have a normal laptop i5 x73s asus with SSD and 8 GB ram   ;D not cia server here at home


Title: Re: Seed Phrase BIP 44 Ledger Nano S 24 Words and one Word are away .
Post by: DannyHamilton on August 04, 2017, 03:55:02 PM
The word list has only 2048 possible words to try.

Simply try them all in order.

If it takes you 30 seconds for each attempt, you can try all 2048 words in less than 18 hours.

Assuming that you are using English words, I think this is the word list you need to use:
https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0039/english.txt


Title: Re: Seed Phrase BIP 44 Ledger Nano S 24 Words and one Word are away .
Post by: ostsee77 on August 04, 2017, 04:18:22 PM
The word list has only 2048 possible words to try.

Simply try them all in order.

If it takes you 30 seconds for each attempt, you can try all 2048 words in less than 18 hours.

Assuming that you are using English words, I think this is the word list you need to use:
https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0039/english.txt
Yes. English. BIP44 is Ledger Nano S . Hmmm. 2048 words. Not 18 hours. 18 years I need  ;D  Then I'm already in the graveyard
At the ledger you have to enter everything by hand
Pin 2 x  and 24 words with 2 mini buttons . My fingers are already hurt .

edit:  The Bitcoin address of the ledger I have .


Title: Re: Seed Phrase BIP 44 Ledger Nano S 24 Words and one Word are away .
Post by: ostsee77 on August 05, 2017, 06:36:43 AM
The word list has only 2048 possible words to try.

Simply try them all in order.

If it takes you 30 seconds for each attempt, you can try all 2048 words in less than 18 hours.

Assuming that you are using English words, I think this is the word list you need to use:
https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0039/english.txt

- 23 Words.  it was no double words in the system.  ;D  I am now at word 190 bless
i make it with electrum .
a other wallet i have so restored for trial . That worked with electrum.
But I still have about 2000 words to enter   ???


Title: Re: Seed Phrase BIP 44 Ledger Nano S 24 Words and one Word are away .
Post by: HCP on August 05, 2017, 08:29:50 AM
If you have a bitcoin address (preferably the first one generated) for that seed... a simple python script would probably find the correct seed in less time that it took to write your post. ;)

PM me if you like...


Title: Re: Seed Phrase BIP 44 Ledger Nano S 24 Words and one Word are away .
Post by: ostsee77 on August 05, 2017, 12:16:58 PM
If you have a bitcoin address (preferably the first one generated) for that seed... a simple python script would probably find the correct seed in less time that it took to write your post. ;)

PM me if you like...
you have PM


Title: Re: Seed Phrase BIP 44 Ledger Nano S 24 Words and one Word are away .
Post by: ostsee77 on August 05, 2017, 08:05:18 PM
Has another one an idea?

I have 23 correct words and one is missing. Number 12 is "lost" or Misssing
Wallet address is also available .
There must be something to be done
Is not much BTC. But for the little  daughter. But she does not know  ;D 
Should later become a surprise with 18



Title: Re: Seed Phrase BIP 44 Ledger Nano S 24 Words and one Word are away .
Post by: Netnox on August 06, 2017, 12:12:18 PM
I don't think that there is any easy solution for this, other than to contact the Ledger Wallet guys and see whether they can help. If that doesn't work, then you can try the Services section here and hire someone who can hack the wallet. But I have to warn you that the hacking services doesn't come cheap. It is going to cost you anywhere from $100 to $500.


Title: Re: Seed Phrase BIP 44 Ledger Nano S 24 Words and one Word are away .
Post by: HCP on August 08, 2017, 06:49:02 AM
Just so everyone knows... I have already successfully recovered the seed for the OP and helped them retrieve their coins.  8)

It would appear that the reason for the OP missing a seed word was likely due to the fact that the same word appeared twice in a row in the seed. ie. "one two three four five six seven seven eight nine ten eleven" :o

So, my theory is that the OP just thought they hadn't clicked "next" to display the next word properly... not realising that the Nano S was simply displaying the same word a second time... and then they didn't realise they had only written down 23 words instead of 24.

But, at the of the day, a happy result ;)


Title: Re: Seed Phrase BIP 44 Ledger Nano S 24 Words and one Word are away .
Post by: ostsee77 on August 08, 2017, 08:43:23 AM
HCP is the Best.  :)He saved us
Very good. Many thanks for everything