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Post by: AMIANORPHANEDBLOCK on August 06, 2017, 10:32:28 PM
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Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: bluedeep on August 06, 2017, 11:29:42 PM
What are you talking about? I see that you are a BCH supporter but you should know that Bitcoin clone aka. BCH,  has no future.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: xdev on August 06, 2017, 11:30:41 PM
Never say never, what should be worrying people is that key players have moved over and are promoting BCH. Right now it looks like BTC is unstoppable but we all know a majority of the people holding Bitcoins can easily jumpship if another player starts to rise on the market.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: BitcoinBarrel on August 06, 2017, 11:32:40 PM
If it was The Bitcoin, it wouldn't be called Bitcoin Cash.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: Raven91 on August 06, 2017, 11:35:42 PM
Even with segwit, BlockStreamcoin can only scale to 4.5 tx/sec

Mining cartels will refuse to implement any new scaling proposals for BScoin

Meanwhile the real Bitcoin will have 2000 tx/sec

Blockstream and core devs are working with the US gov to force users off-chain

Big blocks or GTFO
I will say that this statement have no basis and impossible to happened in my opinio bitcoincash will surely just drop in the market in the coming years and i guess it will continue the split of bitcoin doesnt mean anything bitcoin will still be the no.1 and i guess it cannot be stop to pump.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: Izlude on August 06, 2017, 11:42:25 PM
I would have had 30 million USD today if I bought 10,000 BTC back in the day, I had the funds and almost did... got a gaming PC instead.  I wonder if I could get a 2nd chance if Bitcoin Cash crashes through the floor, then scoop up allllll the coins for cheap.    Any big wigs investing in Bitcoin Cash yet?  (remember when Microsoft announced Bitcoin association?)  Bitcoin Cash possible future?


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: chixka000 on August 06, 2017, 11:49:53 PM
Bitcoin Cash to what i see is just another altcoin trying to get the same value of bitcoin. If you want to support that then its your own choice maybe because you see it's worth but for me there is only one crypto king that should remain as bitcoin


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: Celsiuss on August 07, 2017, 12:11:12 AM
Ok, bitcoin cash has some benefits, but so does many other alts, I haven't seen any alt overcome bitcoin. Bitcoin cash has only been declining hard since July 3rd. I don't see why it would overtake bitcoin.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: Scorpion on August 07, 2017, 02:02:19 AM
Big blocks, miners and people with huge amount of storage will run the nodes, they will control everything. Bitcoin is supposed to be decentralized. You didn't even mention Lightning Network that will help Bitcoin improve scalability.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: 25hashcoin on August 07, 2017, 02:12:26 AM
Agreed OP. Bitcoin Cash is easily the winner for a variety of reasons. Next weeks/months will be spectacular to witness!


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: Bitcoin Guy on August 07, 2017, 02:24:22 AM
Bitcoin Cash will probably hard fork again to get to 10mb, then again to 12mb, and again on 14mb.... After couple years, we will see 8 or more coins forked from Bitcoin Cash.

By the way, I have observed a very interesting phenomenon in many posts that are related to BCH - there is an increasing amount of newbies who support BCH in the posts.   


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: bitcoinmaniac52 on August 07, 2017, 02:24:29 AM
Big blocks, miners and people with huge amount of storage will run the nodes, they will control everything. Bitcoin is supposed to be decentralized. You didn't even mention Lightning Network that will help Bitcoin improve scalability.

Bitcoin Cash will continue falling until completely dead. It might take months or years or decades, but rest assured it will die with the rest and Bitcoin will survive.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: jeraldskie11 on August 07, 2017, 02:34:16 AM
We cannot change any crypto currency on bitcoin even bitcoin cash can' overcome bitcoin. We know that Bitcoin cash is a good coin and really have a future but we can't say that it can change bitcoin to bitcoin cash. Because of bitcoin the bitcoin cash is made so there is no bitcoin cash if bitcoin will appeared.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: iyan33 on August 07, 2017, 03:21:42 AM
Of course there is no BCC due to the absence of BTC, but so far the function of Bitcoin Cash has not contributed and good progress, even the price of BCC is currently below ETH price.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: Thatstinks on August 07, 2017, 03:31:59 AM
BCC/BCH helped pump all coins this week, it also has recovered some but ultimately I believe there is something HUGE up and BCC/BCH will see $1k+ again, watch.

Its creators are interested in seeing it succeed and never forget BTC itself has seen $XXX not long ago, short memories folks!


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: 25hashcoin on August 07, 2017, 03:36:13 AM
Big blocks, miners and people with huge amount of storage will run the nodes, they will control everything. Bitcoin is supposed to be decentralized. You didn't even mention Lightning Network that will help Bitcoin improve scalability.

Bitcoin Cash will continue falling until completely dead. It might take months or years or decades, but rest assured it will die with the rest and Bitcoin will survive.


You really need to read this: https://medium.com/@shludvigsen/traders-guide-to-bitcoin-cash-bitcoin-segwit-819933694b34


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: danherbias07 on August 07, 2017, 03:37:27 AM
And look how they dump so fast all of the Bitcoin Cash they have taken from the airdrop.
They just want the money from that altcoin and nothing more.
I dont think this will really move forward. There is a lot more out there that havent dumped their BCC and I think it will just be a manner of time before they do realize how the procedure would be and dump it also easily.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: Wind_FURY on August 07, 2017, 03:46:03 AM
OP, you do not have to open a thread just to be an asshole. The leaders you support like Roger Ver are already successful in the BitcoinCash hard fork. What more do you want from the people who support Core? There is nothing to talk about anymore.

Please go on your way and be happy with BCC. Do not forget to dump your Bitcoins on the way out.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: Aur3 on August 07, 2017, 03:49:10 AM
Bitcoin Cash to what i see is just another altcoin trying to get the same value of bitcoin. If you want to support that then its your own choice maybe because you see it's worth but for me there is only one crypto king that should remain as bitcoin

Facts first. Bitcoin already existed before Bitcoin Cash. Bitcoin became the number 1 hot item in cryptocurrency while Bitcoin Cash has not yet reached its great potential.

As I see it, Bitcoin Cash is a new kid in town who is finding some friends to trust. The new kid might be popular but it takes time to prove himself. The people around him will need to see how unique of a person he is. Is he unique enough to be trusted? Or, is he another generic person with the same story to tell?

Bitcoin, on the other hand, becomes a young independent adult. He has various lessons to learn about life but he understands its zigzag roads. If he stays hardworking as he is today, there's no doubt he's on his way to greatness.
  


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: CraigWrightBTC on August 07, 2017, 03:56:12 AM
No i don't think bitcoins cash BCH will be the bitcoins even BCH's price is more expensive than bitcoins BTC because bitcoins cash has been considered as new altcoins and all of the comunity bitcoins has accepted it, will be long debate about the name BTC if comunity of BCH want it be changed to BTC and it will be confusing for all of the people.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: aarturka on August 07, 2017, 04:01:30 AM
Ok, bitcoin cash has some benefits, but so does many other alts, I haven't seen any alt overcome bitcoin. Bitcoin cash has only been declining hard since July 3rd. I don't see why it would overtake bitcoin.
Bcash doesn't have any benefits it's centralized shit with president and dumb devs it has no support  and slow blocks


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: farhaan on August 07, 2017, 04:21:36 AM
I would have had 30 million USD today if I bought 10,000 BTC back in the day, I had the funds and almost did... got a gaming PC instead.  I wonder if I could get a 2nd chance if Bitcoin Cash crashes through the floor, then scoop up allllll the coins for cheap.    Any big wigs investing in Bitcoin Cash yet?  (remember when Microsoft announced Bitcoin association?)  Bitcoin Cash possible future?
Bitcoin cash could not replace bitcoin and it would remain just as an altcoin and it has huge market cap just for the reason it has been created by hard fork of bitcoin and no other speciality in BCC.BCC has started to lose its value and soon it would become an altcoin which no one is ready to buy.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: StevenRA on August 07, 2017, 05:22:47 AM
This doesn't sound realistic at all. bitcoin cash started high, but as soon as people are getting their bitcoin cash from exchanges and being allowed to, they're selling. The price has gone way down. BTC has gone up. I don't see the comparison at all.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: mrcash02 on August 07, 2017, 05:29:08 AM
Even with segwit, BlockStreamcoin can only scale to 4.5 tx/sec

Mining cartels will refuse to implement any new scaling proposals for BScoin

Meanwhile the real Bitcoin will have 2000 tx/sec

Blockstream and core devs are working with the US gov to force users off-chain

Big blocks or GTFO

If we are between two cartels, one working with US government and another with the chineses I prefer to stay with the USA.  ;D

The copy is never the original, so Bitcoin Cash can never be Bitcoin. It's an AltCoin like any other Crypto-Currency. We have seen the solid project here is Bitcoin and not a fork of it. Look how the BCC price pumped and dumped, no credibility.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: spadormie on August 07, 2017, 05:31:40 AM
Yes it is. It is a bitcoin, get it? We can call it as bitcoin but it would never be bitcoin. We do believe that what makes of a son is what makes of its father or mother, but the son couldn't be his father nor his mother. It is somehow just like that. The two are alike but the offspring couldn't be his father. No matter what he could do. Bitcoin cash (BCH) is just a replica of bitcoin or a clone. But bitcoin would be the crowds favorite so bch cant still beat it.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: Taki on August 07, 2017, 05:33:27 AM
What are you talking about? I see that you are a BCH supporter but you should know that Bitcoin clone aka. BCH,  has no future.
I am agree. I think after such bright start and extremely fall Bitcoin Cash will be lost among other altcoins. Bitcoin Cash was just the bubble which is popped. Lucky those who cashed it out in the most first day.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: BingoDog on August 07, 2017, 05:38:40 AM
Bitcoin cash will not be the bitoin, this is just wishful thinking. I don't know where peple come form with such conclusions. Based on what exactly could altcoin such bitcoin cash replace bitcoin that is already so recognized, accepted, has a value in real world and has entered in all aspects of life. I can understand that some users support bitcoin cash but I can't understand that hey represent wrong facts and confuse people.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: Bittoshi on August 07, 2017, 05:40:08 AM
Bitcoin cash surely has some benefits and a better technology implemented than the old Bitcoin but not enough support. It's an Atlcoin using the Bitcoin chain. At the end Bitcoin Cash will become Bitcoin Trash  ;D


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: dimatu on August 07, 2017, 05:40:14 AM
bitcoin cash is pretty much dead, it will always be an altcoin that no one actually uses.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: malikusama on August 07, 2017, 05:42:32 AM
What you are saying doesn't attract the old bitcoin users, it seems that a specific group of people(including investors and miners)  are trying to compel the bitcoins users to start investing in Bitcoin Cash.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: Herbert2020 on August 07, 2017, 05:43:26 AM
bitcoin is what the majority of users accept as bitcoin. it doesn't matter what a random throwaway desperate account calls it. these pathetic attempts change nothing. bitcoin is still bitcoin and it is still pretty strong because it has the majority support.

what you desperate people did with your BCC is an altcoin which again the majority of users came to a consensus to call it as an altcoin hence treat it as one.

and as for its price, again the majority decided that it is not worth anything so they are dumping it and price is headed to $100 for now and possibly much lower in the future.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: TheGodson on August 07, 2017, 06:03:36 AM
It appears that even among the Bitcoin Cash community they can't decide on the acronym. I use to see BCC. Now I'm seeing BCH and BCC. Google says they are the same thing.

I disagree with OP. I don't think Bitcoin Cash is going anywhere, because it doesn't have the same support Bitcoin has. Only time will tell for sure though. So far it isn't looking good for Bitcoin Cash since it is going down. Bitcoin went up roughly 15% in a single day just recently.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: prometheum on August 07, 2017, 06:06:11 AM
In my opinion Bitcoin will always be THE Bitcoin because for the alt coins to succeed, then bitcoin must succeed. I feel that if bitcoin fails, it will take the alts with it. As far as Bitcoin Cash is concerned it will likely survive but will always be an alt.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: TheKeyLongThumbI on August 07, 2017, 06:26:45 AM
In my opinion Bitcoin will always be THE Bitcoin because for the alt coins to succeed, then bitcoin must succeed. I feel that if bitcoin fails, it will take the alts with it. As far as Bitcoin Cash is concerned it will likely survive but will always be an alt.

Let's all hope and pray that this will not lead to a major problem. I feel that this bitcoincash really annoys majority of the bitcoin world. Bitcoin will always win because I know that before it achieves the triumph, it must first overcome all challenges.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: Sithara007 on August 07, 2017, 06:45:22 AM
bitcoin cash is pretty much dead, it will always be an altcoin that no one actually uses.

If it is dead, then how are you going to explain its $4 billion market cap? Also, during the past 24-hours, the exchange rates have increased by as much as 11% (as per the Coinmarketcap.com data).


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: Mpamaegbu on August 07, 2017, 06:52:07 AM
I would have had 30 million USD today if I bought 10,000 BTC back in the day, I had the funds and almost did... got a gaming PC instead.  I wonder if I could get a 2nd chance if Bitcoin Cash crashes through the floor, then scoop up allllll the coins for cheap.    Any big wigs investing in Bitcoin Cash yet?  (remember when Microsoft announced Bitcoin association?)  Bitcoin Cash possible future?

No buddy. I don't think you would've been a millionaire now because you would've given the coins up a long time ago like the $10,000 burger guy!


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: crazyivan on August 07, 2017, 07:05:22 AM
I see you have only 14 posts which means u re a newbie who got butt hurt for not selling BCC when the price was high. Sorry for that my friend but I think it s time for you to learn to cut your losses and get out before your losses become even more significant.

So dump, get out and dont post stupid shit. In 6 months BCC will be just an average alt nobody cares about.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: carriebee on August 07, 2017, 07:11:06 AM
bitcoin cash is pretty much dead, it will always be an altcoin that no one actually uses.

If it is dead, then how are you going to explain its $4 billion market cap? Also, during the past 24-hours, the exchange rates have increased by as much as 11% (as per the Coinmarketcap.com data).
Actually we cant say bitcoin cash is dead lets just observe the movement of BCC in the market. Since this is new we can tell of what price would it become ahead so its still be an altcoin. However, bitcoin is still be the bitcoin and still will continue growing daily.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: Limbor on August 07, 2017, 07:19:24 AM
bitcoin cash is pretty much dead, it will always be an altcoin that no one actually uses.

If it is dead, then how are you going to explain its $4 billion market cap? Also, during the past 24-hours, the exchange rates have increased by as much as 11% (as per the Coinmarketcap.com data).
Actually we cant say bitcoin cash is dead lets just observe the movement of BCC in the market. Since this is new we can tell of what price would it become ahead so its still be an altcoin. However, bitcoin is still be the bitcoin and still will continue growing daily.

Today, on the stock exchanges, we see an increase in  BCC. I think that for a few more weeks this coin will be popular and it will be traded. And then its creators will make efforts to revive it. But probably it will lose popularity forever


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: DoublerHunter on August 07, 2017, 07:54:39 AM
I don't think that bitcoin cash will become the bitcoin because if bitcoin cash will replace bitcoin then we can easily feel that presence in the price of those two coin. As of now, the bitcoin cash is not stable and it is like going down while bitcoin is getting more stable to the current price now and it seems that it will pump more in the next months.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: Hamphser on August 07, 2017, 08:09:00 AM
I don't think that bitcoin cash will become the bitcoin because if bitcoin cash will replace bitcoin then we can easily feel that presence in the price of those two coin. As of now, the bitcoin cash is not stable and it is like going down while bitcoin is getting more stable to the current price now and it seems that it will pump more in the next months.
Comparing both prices would really give us the idea between the two coins and we can really differentiate which do have future or dont have. Original would remain original and clone would really remain as clone and prices would really differ and i cant see any reasons for BCH to surpass BTC in near future since its just really an another altcoin in the market and nothing to get serious on it.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: Ayers on August 07, 2017, 08:10:16 AM
no lol bitcoin cash can't be the bitcoin ever, but it can be a good shit coin, if they begin to accept it for payment, as a side coin for helping bitcoin while we wait for a solution for the scaling issue, you can see bitcoin cash as another palliative for the block size


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: flag39 on August 07, 2017, 08:52:58 AM
I don't think so.
Bitcoin is a trade mark like Harley-Davidson. You can build a Harley motorcycle or a Davidson one or add some surname behind, it wil never sell for Harley-Davidson.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: qiwoman2 on August 07, 2017, 09:22:47 AM
GDAX is going to incorporate it and so it will have more uses etc in the real world. Bitcoin will always be Bitcoin but as a nice new clone of BTC, Bitcoin Cash is set to make another set of people very rich. I don't have much so for me it won't make much difference.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: judeafante on August 07, 2017, 09:44:10 AM
I think you are late to dump your bitcoin cash, you want to create hype and wants people to support Bitcoin cash when everybody is dumping it now,if you think this is the new bitcoin then go buy all you can and see if you are indeed right in your assumption.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: duyduc256 on August 07, 2017, 10:03:24 AM
I think Bitcoin is still Bitcoin and no altcoin can overthrow Bitcoin in the future. BCC is only the spirit child of Bitcoin, but BCC has no specific development path, which makes BCC prices continue to fall.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: no0dlepunk on August 07, 2017, 10:18:28 AM
Bitcoin Cash will never be the BITCOIN. Satoshi obviously has tons of BCC which he had earned from the fork, now ask yourself will Satoshi support Bitcoin Cash? If your answer is NO then you may wanna imagine what would happen once he dumps billions of BCC from his hands...  ::)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: JavaScriptus on August 07, 2017, 10:19:59 AM
If it was The Bitcoin, it wouldn't be called Bitcoin Cash.
LOOL


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: nelmari on August 07, 2017, 10:39:12 AM
I don't think Bitcoin Cash will replace Bitcoin because bitcoin will always be bitcoin and it was created in its own image. While Bitcoin Cash might have a possibility in the future to likely surpass bitcoin but since it is still new, we still can't tell how the trading goes for this coin for it still has a lot to catch up compared to bitcoin.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: litec0ins on August 07, 2017, 11:49:08 AM
Bitcoin Cash will never be the BITCOIN. Satoshi obviously has tons of BCC which he had earned from the fork, now ask yourself will Satoshi support Bitcoin Cash? If your answer is NO then you may wanna imagine what would happen once he dumps billions of BCC from his hands...  ::)

He also doesn't dump his btc.
So by this logic if he doesnt dump bcc he supports it...? ::)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: renes on August 07, 2017, 12:20:55 PM
This all about money. Miners don't care nothing but money, but nothing can stop bitcoin, bitcoin cash in fact strengthens bitcoin.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: Savik on August 07, 2017, 01:34:05 PM
BCH block times are coming way down, mining profitability is almost the same as BTC. Hash rate starting to climb significantly. Interesting weeks ahead for BCH.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: u45724 on August 07, 2017, 01:45:48 PM
Well i hope not, i sold all my BCH as soon as i got them on the exchange. Sold mine for $500 so i could potentially buy them back and a bit more at the current rate.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: Savik on August 07, 2017, 02:22:59 PM
Well i hope not, i sold all my BCH as soon as i got them on the exchange. Sold mine for $500 so i could potentially buy them back and a bit more at the current rate.

Yea, its a wild speculative gamble at this point. Flip a coin to see where this goes next. $1000/coin or $0/coin are almost equally likely


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: Denker on August 07, 2017, 02:33:26 PM
Well i hope not, i sold all my BCH as soon as i got them on the exchange. Sold mine for $500 so i could potentially buy them back and a bit more at the current rate.

BCH will not be Bitcoin. Not gonna happen! And that you already dumped it is not bad. It was free money.
Sure right now the price is moving up again however that could turn around again pretty quick. Imo the dumping hasn't ended yet. Still many exchanges does not support it or have crazy block verification times before people can sell it, trade it etc.
It will be interesting to see how this coin will perform in a few months. Right now it's impossible to say if it will have some serioud, significant financial value and therefoe will be a top tier altcoin or not.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: cellard on August 07, 2017, 02:52:31 PM
Yep, the thing is already dead. It is showing some small pumps lately, but the all time graph is too brutal. It doesn't even show up if you zoom out. The dump was epic as everyone was expecting, and I didn't even bother with dumping it yet. I will hold them and wait for a random pump and dump to happen and that's when I will dump them. Im sure it will pump Ethereum Classic style. Whales love pumping in situations like these where there is big buzz behind the coins, and forks of big coins always have buzz and create news.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: -security- on August 07, 2017, 02:55:01 PM
If I tell you Bitcoin is a good investment. You gona buy a Bitcoin or any of the bitcoin named chains?
All this does is create confusion.

Bitcoin named chains so far

Bitcoin Dark
Bitcoin Plus
Bitcoin Cash
Bitcoin Planet
Bitcoin TX
Bitcoin Scrypt
Bitcoin 21
Bitcoin Unlimited (potentially)






Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: Obi2024 on August 07, 2017, 04:25:36 PM
if this write up https://medium.com/@shludvigsen/traders-guide-to-bitcoin-cash-bitcoin-segwit-819933694b34 is correct, then one has to buy some BCH and hold.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: gomei on August 07, 2017, 04:26:38 PM
I think the Bticoin Cash will have a long way to be the bitcoin. Maybe with the support of the miners and the pools, the bitcoin cash will be great success in the future, so I will buy some and hold it as a long term investment.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: darthmaul on August 07, 2017, 04:45:03 PM
Even with segwit, BlockStreamcoin can only scale to 4.5 tx/sec

Mining cartels will refuse to implement any new scaling proposals for BScoin

Meanwhile the real Bitcoin will have 2000 tx/sec

Blockstream and core devs are working with the US gov to force users off-chain

Big blocks or GTFO

FYI This is a really failed attempt to promote the BCH. These numbers mean nothing infont of bitcoin transaction. Devs no matter what will never achieve their goal due to strong proximity relation between bitcoin and its value. The end users are all into bitcoin and will never trust any other crypto coin that makes its way from the blockchain. I have nothing much to say about this because it's really nuances to talk about. I'm Supporter of bitcoin BTW.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: Savik on August 07, 2017, 04:59:18 PM
if this write up https://medium.com/@shludvigsen/traders-guide-to-bitcoin-cash-bitcoin-segwit-819933694b34 is correct, then one has to buy some BCH and hold.

Very interesting article, but I doubt BC will ever see another EDA scenario like we saw already.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: Savik on August 07, 2017, 05:02:58 PM
Everyone can huff and puff all they want, but price actions do not lie.  BCC price chart is a total disaster - it is on a straight downward slope with no support in sight.  All the fanatics can spam all they want, but until you put up your money and start buying BCC to provide some support on the buy side, it is dead.   What's that? you dont want to spend your fiat or BTC buying BCC?  yeah that's what i thought.

What's going to happen is volume will dry up from the initial 1-2 weeks of mayhem, while a constant stream of latecomers will continue to sell their BCC on the exchanges putting downward pressure on the coin, until everyone gives up and stop caring. Like what happened to dogecoin and almost every other altcoin who was created without a purpose.   It will be a slow death by paper cuts.

I do wish someone will just constantly fork the BTC chain to create more of those worthless coin types that we can dump to wide eyed newbies on day 1 before price crashes.

PS: the bigwigs who holds large amout of BTC hasnt even moved yet, all those guys have their BTC in cold storage, and value security over everything else. Once things stabalize, and if there is still some value left in BCC, you can be sure they will take it all off the table by dumping their share of BCCs, after all who doesnt want free money.

Fun times.

Yes yes, we all know how wonderful the BTC chart has been over the years  ::) The two biggest drivers for BCH are the unified dev team behind it, as opposed to the fractures in the BTC team, and the support of big businesses like Bitmain. Say what you will about decentralization, but centralization has its benefits too when it comes to an investable currency.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: -security- on August 07, 2017, 05:17:34 PM
Fact is only one chain will survive long term. Segwit is make or break if everything works with segwit it's good-by BCH otherwise it will be the only surviving chain.

Of course Satoshi could also determine which is his chain.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: Kubra Dam on August 07, 2017, 06:14:32 PM
Even with segwit, BlockStreamcoin can only scale to 4.5 tx/sec

Mining cartels will refuse to implement any new scaling proposals for BScoin

Meanwhile the real Bitcoin will have 2000 tx/sec

Blockstream and core devs are working with the US gov to force users off-chain

Big blocks or GTFO

FYI This is a really failed attempt to promote the BCH. These numbers mean nothing infont of bitcoin transaction. Devs no matter what will never achieve their goal due to strong proximity relation between bitcoin and its value. The end users are all into bitcoin and will never trust any other crypto coin that makes its way from the blockchain. I have nothing much to say about this because it's really nuances to talk about. I'm Supporter of bitcoin BTW.

Thanks for the thread, you have us to see the opportunity of the most garbage coin ever existed. BCC fans probably are crying, but we dumped them hard on fork/split supporters. Never worry about it. It was fun for us, bitcoin believers.

BCC fans received a nice message from the community after that failed attempt.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: ostsee77 on August 07, 2017, 06:25:21 PM
Agreed OP. Bitcoin Cash is easily the winner for a variety of reasons. Next weeks/months will be spectacular to witness!

The course looks pretty good today
300 comes today


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: bitcoinvestor on August 07, 2017, 06:59:06 PM
If it was The Bitcoin, it wouldn't be called Bitcoin Cash.
BTC isn't BCC I agree with that statement. BCC with the US government. How can Satoshi IDea works with US government. I think the poster want to control the bitcoin community. Can they control people decentralization. That's one of the way to stop the growth of cryptocurrency. the bad situation when US govt will control bitcoin sooner or later the users will turn to altcoin which is more independence than bitcoin.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: chutchmcgillicutty on August 07, 2017, 08:01:47 PM
BCH is going up pretty crazy today. Any reasons?


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: OrangeP on August 07, 2017, 08:05:15 PM
BCH is going up pretty crazy today. Any reasons?

Some people developed a fetish to buy shitcoins and rub them on their genitals.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: btcprospecter on August 07, 2017, 08:09:56 PM
Surely it is bch is going to crash at some point when more and more people start to dump coins they have we are all still concerned about how long it will last as a viable alternative to bitcoin, for some this could be their bitcoin of the future as more and more people are joining the block chain


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: 25hashcoin on August 07, 2017, 08:13:31 PM
BCH is going up pretty crazy today. Any reasons?

Market demands a Bitcoin that actually works and isn't tainted by segshit. Flippening incoming once Bitcoin Cash becomes more profitable to mine.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: hase0278 on August 07, 2017, 08:28:34 PM
BCH is going up pretty crazy today. Any reasons?

Market demands a Bitcoin that actually works and isn't tainted by segshit. Flippening incoming once Bitcoin Cash becomes more profitable to mine.
Maybe, maybe not it is too early to say that bitcoin cash would actually overtake bitcoin and be the king because right now it got many flaws. Besides it the pumps that are happening right now somehow looks manipulated. All I can say for now is that there is a chance of bch dethroning btc but it still has a very long way to go.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: fullhdpixel on August 07, 2017, 11:18:16 PM
Even with segwit, BlockStreamcoin can only scale to 4.5 tx/sec

Mining cartels will refuse to implement any new scaling proposals for BScoin

Meanwhile the real Bitcoin will have 2000 tx/sec

Blockstream and core devs are working with the US gov to force users off-chain

Big blocks or GTFO
Where did this guy pop out from? And who told you that trash? I see, a BitcoinCash die-hard supporter, and even your profile states clearly youre a newbie. Whoever you are, youre already crushed, and same is BitcoinCash.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: Savik on August 07, 2017, 11:20:12 PM
BCH is going up pretty crazy today. Any reasons?

Market demands a Bitcoin that actually works and isn't tainted by segshit. Flippening incoming once Bitcoin Cash becomes more profitable to mine.

That would definitely be a huge deal if/when it happens. The profitability equation is getting closer and closer. Matter of time.

https://www.coinwarz.com/cryptocurrency/?sort=profitusd&dir=desc


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: betlord90 on August 07, 2017, 11:40:51 PM
Even with segwit, BlockStreamcoin can only scale to 4.5 tx/sec

Mining cartels will refuse to implement any new scaling proposals for BScoin

Meanwhile the real Bitcoin will have 2000 tx/sec

Blockstream and core devs are working with the US gov to force users off-chain

Big blocks or GTFO
Where did this guy pop out from? And who told you that trash? I see, a BitcoinCash die-hard supporter, and even your profile states clearly youre a newbie. Whoever you are, youre already crushed, and same is BitcoinCash.

Bitcoin cash is just a hype and those people who threw some positive feedbacks on it are just want to earn with this alt and i will not surprise if the hype of bcc will stop and this one will die, And there's no alt for now even its splitted shit alt would replace bitcoins since as we can see bitcoins is heading to the moon right now!.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: cellard on August 08, 2017, 12:51:51 AM
If I tell you Bitcoin is a good investment. You gona buy a Bitcoin or any of the bitcoin named chains?
All this does is create confusion.

Bitcoin named chains so far

Bitcoin Dark
Bitcoin Plus
Bitcoin Cash
Bitcoin Planet
Bitcoin TX
Bitcoin Scrypt
Bitcoin 21
Bitcoin Unlimited (potentially)






Someone made this photoshop which is pretty funny and it's an idea of how the conimarketcap website could look like in the future if we keep this face of forking bitcoin into a million different bitcoins trying to become the real bitcoin:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGRCDQeUQAEKzbb.jpg

This is how coinmarketcap will look like in 2020 but Bitcoin will be worth $10,000+ each and the rest of the fake Bitcoins will be worth next to nothing.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: The_Dark_Knight on August 08, 2017, 03:27:25 AM
Never say never, what should be worrying people is that key players have moved over and are promoting BCH. Right now it looks like BTC is unstoppable but we all know a majority of the people holding Bitcoins can easily jumpship if another player starts to rise on the market.
I think this is one of the things we can say it is never going to happen, BCH is an altcoin and that is never going to change, people are not going to change bitcoin that easily, some traders and speculator will do it if they see a way to make money, but to get the long term holders of bitcoin to switch to another coin is not going to be as easy as you think.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: Ahimoth on August 08, 2017, 03:43:14 AM
Even with segwit, BlockStreamcoin can only scale to 4.5 tx/sec

Mining cartels will refuse to implement any new scaling proposals for BScoin

Meanwhile the real Bitcoin will have 2000 tx/sec

Blockstream and core devs are working with the US gov to force users off-chain

Big blocks or GTFO
Where did this guy pop out from? And who told you that trash? I see, a BitcoinCash die-hard supporter, and even your profile states clearly youre a newbie. Whoever you are, youre already crushed, and same is BitcoinCash.

OP is being ridiculous here. Stating without proper facts.
Bitcoin cash is just a trying hard coin that wants to be level to bitcoin. Like it dont want to be an altcoin and wants to surpass bitcoin. Bitcoin cash needs more years just to beat bitcoin. I dont know why many are believing this coin, like Im trying to see what they can see in it.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: Aur3 on August 08, 2017, 03:57:08 AM
If it was The Bitcoin, it wouldn't be called Bitcoin Cash.

I don't see it happening. It's possible but it isn't realistic. Bitcoin is way on top supported by various investors. It's making a loud buzz around the world even without a television ad.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: shadow_hammer on August 08, 2017, 05:24:45 AM
Even if Bitcoin Cash turns out to pick up and rise, our long trusted Bitcoin will most likely do so as well. With that in mind it seems extremely unlikely to surpass the original Bitcoin.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: sunsilk on August 08, 2017, 05:31:43 AM
No way, then bitcoin will be bitcoin cash and bitcoin cash will be bitcoin? That's confusing.

And don't try to confuse people everyone has been fine now and bitcoin cash is totally an alt coin and just use it for trading.

While bitcoin will remain the original bitcoin.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: Sterben on August 08, 2017, 05:42:25 AM
Even with segwit, BlockStreamcoin can only scale to 4.5 tx/sec

Mining cartels will refuse to implement any new scaling proposals for BScoin

Meanwhile the real Bitcoin will have 2000 tx/sec

Blockstream and core devs are working with the US gov to force users off-chain

Big blocks or GTFO


You believe in a fork? Come back to the earth my dude.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: Considered on August 08, 2017, 05:45:33 AM
hows your bitcoincash now? Bitcoin cash is no match with the community of bitcoin. That is just an altcoin mimic the original.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: meliodas on August 08, 2017, 08:43:24 AM
Even with segwit, BlockStreamcoin can only scale to 4.5 tx/sec

Mining cartels will refuse to implement any new scaling proposals for BScoin

Meanwhile the real Bitcoin will have 2000 tx/sec

Blockstream and core devs are working with the US gov to force users off-chain

Big blocks or GTFO

Without bitcoin it wouldn't be even be called bitcoin cash. I think it's almost just a clone of BTC so, I think it's nearly impossible for it to replace bitcoin. Bitcoin had it's throne many years ago, it established it's name in the cryptocurrency world. So, I don't think that there can be any altcoin that could replace BTC. There are some altcoin that has same price almost like BTC, but bitcoin is bitcoin, it is the king.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: bitjoin on August 08, 2017, 10:38:07 AM

Anyone tried moving this stuff yet, my god it takes a long time to confirm. Currently i have 1 confirm after 3 hours waiting. To replace the previous bitcoin this must improve.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: Getmon on August 08, 2017, 10:45:12 AM
Uhm, I still cannot see it coming, dude! But of course you can have your own speculation about the future of Bitcoin Cash, of which you are apparently a hard fan. However, it seems your speculation is not supported by the majority here.  ;)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: no0dlepunk on August 08, 2017, 10:57:00 AM
Bitcoin Cash will never be the BITCOIN. Satoshi obviously has tons of BCC which he had earned from the fork, now ask yourself will Satoshi support Bitcoin Cash? If your answer is NO then you may wanna imagine what would happen once he dumps billions of BCC from his hands...  ::)

He also doesn't dump his btc.
So by this logic if he doesnt dump bcc he supports it...? ::)

I don't think so. Because I am not the only one who thinks that Satoshi's BCC will dump someday. by that logic, the fear to invest in BCC will remain until Satoshi dumps it  ::)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: bitjoin on August 08, 2017, 11:21:14 AM
Bitcoin Cash will never be the BITCOIN. Satoshi obviously has tons of BCC which he had earned from the fork, now ask yourself will Satoshi support Bitcoin Cash? If your answer is NO then you may wanna imagine what would happen once he dumps billions of BCC from his hands...  ::)

He also doesn't dump his btc.
So by this logic if he doesnt dump bcc he supports it...? ::)

I don't think so. Because I am not the only one who thinks that Satoshi's BCC will dump someday. by that logic, the fear to invest in BCC will remain until Satoshi dumps it  ::)

The whales have more incentive to keep the coin going vs dumping right now. This fork just made them 10-20% right with no work their end. Roger ver my be able to use the fact hes made everyone extra money to turn his PR around.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: drex187 on August 08, 2017, 12:04:10 PM
If it was The Bitcoin, it wouldn't be called Bitcoin Cash.
What is the difference between bitcoin in bitcoin cash? Are they not the same?


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: kelseydustin on August 08, 2017, 04:16:12 PM
If it was The Bitcoin, it wouldn't be called Bitcoin Cash.
What is the difference between bitcoin in bitcoin cash? Are they not the same?
as the previous statement: "If it was The Bitcoin, it wouldn't be called Bitcoin Cash." They are different. Their names have proven that. Read this article for more information: http://www.express.co.uk/finance/city/838166/Bitcoin-price-bitcoin-cash-difference-explained-news-cryptocurrency-fork-value
Even they are not the same, I do strongly support both of them because both of them are good and were created for a good purposes


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: Script on August 08, 2017, 04:33:20 PM
Over the years many altcoins promise they would substitute bitcoin, yet bitcoin still here stronger than ever.

Bitcoin Cash ain't also gonna do it, just another shitcoin.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: nicolas1979 on August 08, 2017, 04:44:52 PM
Even with segwit, BlockStreamcoin can only scale to 4.5 tx/sec

Mining cartels will refuse to implement any new scaling proposals for BScoin

Meanwhile the real Bitcoin will have 2000 tx/sec

Blockstream and core devs are working with the US gov to force users off-chain

Big blocks or GTFO

Why you say that it's hurt me. Just look eth with etc, even eth has low price but etc will never take eth place. Bitcoin is mother coin, many people still trust as alternative payment and making profit. Bitcoin cash is a new coin, need hard work, high volume and big speculation to become number one coin. Besides that, see the price bitcoin cash from the first time make me cancel my buy order. It doesn't matter from where you giving opinion but learn something before writing anything. Good luck.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: Emperor of Man on August 08, 2017, 04:54:09 PM
Gotta disagree, I don't think it will ever replace BTC.  :)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: cryptedlife on August 08, 2017, 05:35:46 PM
Is there a trusted open sourced wallet for Bitcoin Cash?


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: anylic on August 08, 2017, 05:49:48 PM
BCH will not become BTC because BCH has independently stepped on its own path. The market is still more supportive of BTC than BCH is an altcoin as I have said many times BTC / BCH is like ETH / ETC :)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: Youghoor on August 08, 2017, 05:55:08 PM
Are you seriously? do you think that bitcoin cash is gonna be the new bitcoin? that is not possible bro, i will tell you only one thing that its gonna be the opposite as your opinion.
the only thing that Bitcoin and Bitcoin cash have in common is the NAME, just like Ethereum and Ethereum Classic, why do you think people keeps buying ethereum classic and it is still at $15 each? Just because the NAME, because it creates the speculation and makes the people wonder if one day it Eth Classic will be just like Ethereum. The same scenario with Bitcoin/BitcoinCash
make your own conclussions.

Good luck


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: on August 08, 2017, 06:02:28 PM
New capital flow for the first week for Bitcoin and Bitcoin Cash
http://i.imgur.com/zV0wlLA.png




Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: Hoho29 on August 08, 2017, 07:28:00 PM
New capital flow for the first week for Bitcoin and Bitcoin Cash
http://i.imgur.com/zV0wlLA.png



This figure is best clear answer to your question bitcoin cash may have nice price but for sure will not replace bitcoin anytime soon .


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: cellard on August 08, 2017, 11:21:46 PM
New capital flow for the first week for Bitcoin and Bitcoin Cash
http://i.imgur.com/zV0wlLA.png



This figure is best clear answer to your question bitcoin cash may have nice price but for sure will not replace bitcoin anytime soon .

Most of the Bitcoin Cash price is due people not being able to figure out how to properly dump the coins, because the process is really tricky unless you are an experienced user. Im sure there are tons of people out there that still didn't dump and will do it once they figure it out how to do it. Also blocks are taking like 1 hour still to get the coins in exchanges, it's really annoying the whole process.

I predict it will behave similar to ETC, another pump and dump altcoin.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: kingcolex on August 09, 2017, 12:27:27 AM
Even with segwit, BlockStreamcoin can only scale to 4.5 tx/sec

Mining cartels will refuse to implement any new scaling proposals for BScoin

Meanwhile the real Bitcoin will have 2000 tx/sec

Blockstream and core devs are working with the US gov to force users off-chain

Big blocks or GTFO
When you think tx/s = most popular coin, go spend a minute doing research on other coins and how many who have thought that have crumbled in a few years.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: classicsucks on August 09, 2017, 07:49:56 AM
Everybody in this BTCtalk echo chamber can have fun yelling next week about Segwit2x and BlueMatt's censoring of bit-9 nodes in the next Kore release, etc. The Kore devs are completely clueless as to what's going on in the crypto space. Ram Segwit down everyone's throat, and then one year later, jam Lightning on top of what's left of "Bitcoin". Not my cup of tea.

And I wonder what will happen to BCC valuation during that sh*tstorm? Hold onto your hats, boys.  I won't even mention the possibility that BTC miners start fleeing for BCC when BTC diff adjusts upward tonight...


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: scribbles on August 09, 2017, 08:48:40 AM
What are you talking about? I see that you are a BCH supporter but you should know that Bitcoin clone aka. BCH,  has no future.

What is interesting here is that you reveal - something which I've long been interested in - that BTC is nr1 and BCH is nothing because BCH is a clone (but as is with better tech).

This means BTC is valued on sentiment above all, not on the underlying tech.

As of course most coins are valued on sentiment and promise instead of tech at the moment. But we're talking Bitcoin now.

Furthermore, though I support BTC and I own BTC, I regard BTC as a failed project. The reason is that it is supposed to be decentralized, but it is no longer - and it is extremely unevenly distributed. This goes against the ideology of the project, meaning it grew up to be something else than intended.

I still dream of crypto to be the currency of the people. Bitcoin is held by a happy and powerful few however, much like regular currency. So yea, I hope one day it will lose its position to a crypto that is held and regulated by the many instead of the few. If I had the time and skills to create a manage a crypto, I'd make its biggest goal a wide and even distribution - a problem of logistics. But if I could hand out 10 coinX tokens to every person on the planet now alive, that would be the distribution I'd aim for. This would be cryptocurrency in its truest form.



Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: FrueGreads on August 09, 2017, 09:36:31 AM
I don't think BCC will ever overcome BTC. I'm honest here, I don't understand much about bitcoin technical stuff, but from a market point of view, I don't really think things will ever change, and BTC will remain the most valuable coin, and other will just keep trying to gain some space, but will continue to be used just as pump and dump coins for extra profit.
I understand that many users would probably like that BCC would surpass BTC, probably because this would give them the chance to invest and get rich. A chance that they missed when they did not invest in BTC in it's early days.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: Gaff on August 09, 2017, 10:10:29 AM
I don't think BCC will ever overcome BTC. I'm honest here, I don't understand much about bitcoin technical stuff, but from a market point of view, I don't really think things will ever change, and BTC will remain the most valuable coin, and other will just keep trying to gain some space, but will continue to be used just as pump and dump coins for extra profit.
I understand that many users would probably like that BCC would surpass BTC, probably because this would give them the chance to invest and get rich. A chance that they missed when they did not invest in BTC in it's early days.
What? Who says who? I notice that Bit cash are trying to replace bitcoin wherein fact it is only nothing not a bit from bitcoin's power. Why do others keep on insisting bit cash? I am not in favor of bcc though it came up later than btc but this will never take place btc's throne. Investors are just good at investing because they already have sources but take also a consideration for those smaller investors. You are not taking it fair. It is very important for those who wait patiently mainly because we aim to help other people's need especially for family matter. Therefore bcc won't ever take place btc.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: Karmakid on August 09, 2017, 10:18:41 AM
BCH will not become BTC because BCH has independently stepped on its own path. The market is still more supportive of BTC than BCH is an altcoin as I have said many times BTC / BCH is like ETH / ETC :)

Well said, I totally agree. And, I don't even think that there's any other coin in the world that could replace bitcoin. It's widely known by those who uses crypto currencies and just take a look at the market demand. I think bitcoin is irreplaceable, it's possible but unrealistic. Bitcoin is bitcoin and nothing can replace it.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: Bitforking on August 09, 2017, 10:45:45 AM
BCH will not become BTC because BCH has independently stepped on its own path. The market is still more supportive of BTC than BCH is an altcoin as I have said many times BTC / BCH is like ETH / ETC :)

Well said, I totally agree. And, I don't even think that there's any other coin in the world that could replace bitcoin. It's widely known by those who uses crypto currencies and just take a look at the market demand. I think bitcoin is irreplaceable, it's possible but unrealistic. Bitcoin is bitcoin and nothing can replace it.

However, people do create their own gods...


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: Vanester2014 on August 09, 2017, 10:56:18 AM
I dont think also that BCC/BCH will overcome bitcoin in the future but obcource we still cant predict the future anyway probably BCH become valuable altcoins also like eth and other top coins in coinmarketcap but not overcomes the bitcoin will we can talk about it later if we see the trueth.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: Snail2 on August 09, 2017, 01:12:23 PM
What is interesting here is that you reveal - something which I've long been interested in - that BTC is nr1 and BCH is nothing because BCH is a clone (but as is with better tech).

This means BTC is valued on sentiment above all, not on the underlying tech.

As of course most coins are valued on sentiment and promise instead of tech at the moment. But we're talking Bitcoin now.

Furthermore, though I support BTC and I own BTC, I regard BTC as a failed project. The reason is that it is supposed to be decentralized, but it is no longer - and it is extremely unevenly distributed. This goes against the ideology of the project, meaning it grew up to be something else than intended.

I still dream of crypto to be the currency of the people. Bitcoin is held by a happy and powerful few however, much like regular currency. So yea, I hope one day it will lose its position to a crypto that is held and regulated by the many instead of the few. If I had the time and skills to create a manage a crypto, I'd make its biggest goal a wide and even distribution - a problem of logistics. But if I could hand out 10 coinX tokens to every person on the planet now alive, that would be the distribution I'd aim for. This would be cryptocurrency in its truest form.

Technologically almost everything out there are better than BTC in these days, but because of all the investments and businesses behind it BTC is still the gold-standard and this will not change soon. BCH/BCC/whatever is just yet another technologically backward altcoin.

BTW what do you think guys when MP and the other BTC fundamentalist whales will dump their BCH stock ;)?


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: smsohag on August 09, 2017, 01:35:49 PM
Bitcoin is a old coin and have many benefits on it but bitcoin cash is a new coin in cryptocurrencies world. bitcoin cash will not be the bitcoin because bitcoin is the much popular and its popularity increasing day by day.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: 3months18w on August 09, 2017, 01:43:48 PM
 Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin , are you kidding me? A BTC clone  like LTC, will be a clone for ever.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: smyslov on August 09, 2017, 01:45:54 PM
If it was The Bitcoin, it wouldn't be called Bitcoin Cash.

I totally agree it's getting it's power and popularity from Bitcoin but for me it's just another altcoin getting a lot of attention because of their supporters but it will just turn into another coin just like all the other altcoin in the market.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: cdog on August 09, 2017, 01:47:55 PM
Bitcoin is a old coin and have many benefits on it but bitcoin cash is a new coin in cryptocurrencies world. bitcoin cash will not be the bitcoin because bitcoin is the much popular and its popularity increasing day by day.
the chart cannot lie Bitcoin from day to day always increases differently with Bitcoin Cash which chart can not be stable. Bitcoin is always the top choice.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: stomachgrowls on August 09, 2017, 01:49:59 PM
If it was The Bitcoin, it wouldn't be called Bitcoin Cash.

I totally agree it's getting it's power and popularity from Bitcoin but for me it's just another altcoin getting a lot of attention because of their supporters but it will just turn into another coin just like all the other altcoin in the market.
Its just really an another altcoin in the market and speaking on the popularity Bitcoin cash only got it on a short period of time when the hype is still high but when it already being suppressed then i think its over. The price of it would really stuck on $200 for longer time for sure. Cant be sure but most likely this thing would really happen into that another altcoin in the market. Bitcoin cash do only have small supporters compared to bitcoin.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: batang_bitcoin on August 09, 2017, 02:00:01 PM
These people never stops about the fact that bitcoin cash is just another alt coin in the market. Bitcoin is bitcoin and it will never be replaced by another alt coin, it can be upgraded into v2.0 or something similar but it will remain bitcoin. Put that in your mind that everyone will still stay on the original bitcoin. And that's not BCH.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: classicsucks on August 09, 2017, 07:03:19 PM
These people never stops about the fact that bitcoin cash is just another alt coin in the market. Bitcoin is bitcoin and it will never be replaced by another alt coin, it can be upgraded into v2.0 or something similar but it will remain bitcoin. Put that in your mind that everyone will still stay on the original bitcoin. And that's not BCH.

But you're forgetting that Core just forced thru the Segwit changes to "original Bitcoin". So "original Bitcoin" is not really Bitcoin anymore either. Rumor has it "original Bitcoin" may forking again when they refuse the 2MB hard fork of Segwit2x, because Core wants to start banning Segwit2x nodes...

At some point "original Bitcoin" could be so crippled that it loses value, That's where Bitcoin Cash could step in.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: olushakes on August 09, 2017, 07:10:34 PM
Ever since this argument have started, people have picked sides to support and which to against without knowing that none of the parties even have the capability to decide what the future holds for both while the understand the language of the technicalilties which forms the basis of their opinions, the majority of the crypto community that decides where its to be swinged, understand one language which is profit which always influence decision making that will also decide which one is an Alt and which one is the Bitcoin.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: Pamoldar on August 09, 2017, 07:21:22 PM
Bitcoin cash is the side chain and i do not see it writing off Bitcoin the main chain which has the majority support as far as i know.
And how possible will Bitcoin cash transition to become the main coin when we all know it's the alt here and very few people are actually speculating about it to grow its community, support and market cap?? IMO this is mission impossible for BCH


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: -security- on August 09, 2017, 07:30:54 PM
Bitcoin Cash will be Bitcoin Cash nothing will change it. Who came up with the Bitcoin Cash name?


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: Patatas on August 09, 2017, 07:36:07 PM
Bitcoin Cash will be Bitcoin Cash nothing will change it. In this forum most associate (fiat) cash with scam. Who came up with the Bitcoin Cash name?
Forking just confuses and creates troubles with bitcoins sent to the wrong address......
I can understand the frustration lol
We already have idiots complaining about sending BCC to a bitcoin address or vica-versa.Sadly,forks are easy way to imitate the current system. I hope BCC developers come up with a better soultion to separate their addresses from the bitcoin.Least they could do is change the public key's starting alphabet.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: batang_bitcoin on August 09, 2017, 09:14:25 PM
These people never stops about the fact that bitcoin cash is just another alt coin in the market. Bitcoin is bitcoin and it will never be replaced by another alt coin, it can be upgraded into v2.0 or something similar but it will remain bitcoin. Put that in your mind that everyone will still stay on the original bitcoin. And that's not BCH.

But you're forgetting that Core just forced thru the Segwit changes to "original Bitcoin". So "original Bitcoin" is not really Bitcoin anymore either. Rumor has it "original Bitcoin" may forking again when they refuse the 2MB hard fork of Segwit2x, because Core wants to start banning Segwit2x nodes...

At some point "original Bitcoin" could be so crippled that it loses value, That's where Bitcoin Cash could step in.

Bitcoin will always remain bitcoin. Because of Segwit it will not be called as the original bitcoin anymore? If you say so, if you want to push bitcoin cash for another highlight or you can see that this is going to be a good choice for everybody when it comes to transaction. Do it for yourself, well it's a fact that bitcoin's value can lose suddenly but if you think that BCH is the successor, I don't think so.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: cellard on August 09, 2017, 11:12:13 PM
These people never stops about the fact that bitcoin cash is just another alt coin in the market. Bitcoin is bitcoin and it will never be replaced by another alt coin, it can be upgraded into v2.0 or something similar but it will remain bitcoin. Put that in your mind that everyone will still stay on the original bitcoin. And that's not BCH.

But you're forgetting that Core just forced thru the Segwit changes to "original Bitcoin". So "original Bitcoin" is not really Bitcoin anymore either. Rumor has it "original Bitcoin" may forking again when they refuse the 2MB hard fork of Segwit2x, because Core wants to start banning Segwit2x nodes...

At some point "original Bitcoin" could be so crippled that it loses value, That's where Bitcoin Cash could step in.

Bitcoin will always remain bitcoin. Because of Segwit it will not be called as the original bitcoin anymore? If you say so, if you want to push bitcoin cash for another highlight or you can see that this is going to be a good choice for everybody when it comes to transaction. Do it for yourself, well it's a fact that bitcoin's value can lose suddenly but if you think that BCH is the successor, I don't think so.

There are extremists out there that didn't want segwit in, they wanted bitcoin to stay as it is, but these extremist don't understand that that was unviable. The people that want to stay with 1MB for as long as possible should thank the creators of segwit, because that is what will allow us to stay at 1MB. If you don't like segwit, just don't use it, simple as that. It's definitely better than Jeff Garzik's hardfork, BCash and so on.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: jakeserrano360 on August 09, 2017, 11:35:34 PM
Yah this all seems pretty silly to me. BCH has no future beyond the few folks that have been propping it up with their real bitcoin profits the last week or so. I'd say odds of BCH beating BTC are 1 in 100 ha better chance at the casino.  ;D


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: noictib on August 10, 2017, 12:19:34 AM
Even with segwit, BlockStreamcoin can only scale to 4.5 tx/sec

Mining cartels will refuse to implement any new scaling proposals for BScoin

Meanwhile the real Bitcoin will have 2000 tx/sec

Blockstream and core devs are working with the US gov to force users off-chain

Big blocks or GTFO
Here in this case my answer is in both yes and no because here the main reason is that the technology .
No doubt that bitcoin will remain bitcoin because of the technology and it is the latest technology in the crowd of the coins in cryptocurrency but here the main factor is the improvement that we can see what it got from 1 August According to your thread .
But here may be the new technology from the most basic will stsrt for the BCH coin and make it many times faster than normal btc .
So here chances of the technology improvement will decide the future of the place of king where btc will remain or will replace by bch .


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: classicsucks on August 10, 2017, 09:23:18 AM
These people never stops about the fact that bitcoin cash is just another alt coin in the market. Bitcoin is bitcoin and it will never be replaced by another alt coin, it can be upgraded into v2.0 or something similar but it will remain bitcoin. Put that in your mind that everyone will still stay on the original bitcoin. And that's not BCH.

But you're forgetting that Core just forced thru the Segwit changes to "original Bitcoin". So "original Bitcoin" is not really Bitcoin anymore either. Rumor has it "original Bitcoin" may forking again when they refuse the 2MB hard fork of Segwit2x, because Core wants to start banning Segwit2x nodes...

At some point "original Bitcoin" could be so crippled that it loses value, That's where Bitcoin Cash could step in.

Bitcoin will always remain bitcoin. Because of Segwit it will not be called as the original bitcoin anymore? If you say so, if you want to push bitcoin cash for another highlight or you can see that this is going to be a good choice for everybody when it comes to transaction. Do it for yourself, well it's a fact that bitcoin's value can lose suddenly but if you think that BCH is the successor, I don't think so.

Forget about the scaling war for a minute. And don't worry about names.

What you seem to be oblivious to is that "Original bitcoin" just forcefully soft-forked to a completely different block storage and validation system (Segwit), which is as of yet unproven. Miners who don't wish to use Segwit have NO CHOICE but to use it if they want their blocks to be accepted. So "original bitcoin" has changed by 6000 lines of code, and the network is working very differently at this very moment. Most people on this forum seem happy about this new change, but that doesn't mean that "original bitcoin" remains the same. Furthermore, new attack vectors have been uncovered by Segwit.

Bitcoin Cash, on the other hand, opted to remain with the ORIGINAL BITCOIN block storage and validation method - no Segwit. Are you starting to see my point?



Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: alyssa85 on August 10, 2017, 12:22:59 PM
Bitcoin cash is the side chain and i do not see it writing off Bitcoin the main chain which has the majority support as far as i know.
And how possible will Bitcoin cash transition to become the main coin when we all know it's the alt here and very few people are actually speculating about it to grow its community, support and market cap?? IMO this is mission impossible for BCH

If fees to use bitcoincash remain way lower than fees to use bitcoin, people will use bitcoincash. They won't care that some people label it an "alt". Nobody cares about labels, they just care about cost.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: BitcoinExpart on August 10, 2017, 02:11:43 PM
Yah this all seems pretty silly to me. BCH has no future beyond the few folks that have been propping it up with their real bitcoin profits the last week or so. I'd say odds of BCH beating BTC are 1 in 100 ha better chance at the casino.  ;D
I prefer BCH such a shit coin though there many one think that Bitcoin cash is a smart thing to hold. It seems to stand a very reasonable chance of becoming "the real bitcoin" one day. Really! it does make any sense. I wish, not.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: Georgos on August 10, 2017, 02:14:34 PM
Pure FUD ! Bitcoin Cash is an ALTCOIN. This is why discussion about it take place here. Also, its price is much inferior to Bitcoin's price, showing that I am not saying it is worth less, but also the whole world. Go back dreaming !


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: feiss on August 10, 2017, 02:21:15 PM
Even with segwit, BlockStreamcoin can only scale to 4.5 tx/sec

Mining cartels will refuse to implement any new scaling proposals for BScoin

Meanwhile the real Bitcoin will have 2000 tx/sec

Blockstream and core devs are working with the US gov to force users off-chain

Big blocks or GTFO
Bitcoin will never be the bitcoin cash. It's not intended to duplicate its advantages and being of popularity. Bitcoin has special characteristics among others. Bitcoincash was good in the beginning but lately you'll realize that this digital coin are worthless and you'll dump it.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: Maxre on August 10, 2017, 02:33:15 PM
Even with segwit, BlockStreamcoin can only scale to 4.5 tx/sec

Mining cartels will refuse to implement any new scaling proposals for BScoin

Meanwhile the real Bitcoin will have 2000 tx/sec

Blockstream and core devs are working with the US gov to force users off-chain

Big blocks or GTFO
Bitcoin will never be the bitcoin cash. It's not intended to duplicate its advantages and being of popularity. Bitcoin has special characteristics among others. Bitcoincash was good in the beginning but lately you'll realize that this digital coin are worthless and you'll dump it.

But there is the possibility of bitcoin cash can become bitcoin when viewed from hargannya which rose almost three times the original price.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: bamboylee on August 10, 2017, 02:57:53 PM
Bitcoin has still majority of the support, I do not see it shifting anytime soon especially now that segwit is getting activated. I do not see BCH getting ahead if it does not get support from miners. Difficulty will just drop down and will be prone from outside attacks.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: papajamba on August 10, 2017, 03:09:00 PM
BCC =Bitcoin classic = ETC


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: cellard on August 10, 2017, 03:30:52 PM
These people never stops about the fact that bitcoin cash is just another alt coin in the market. Bitcoin is bitcoin and it will never be replaced by another alt coin, it can be upgraded into v2.0 or something similar but it will remain bitcoin. Put that in your mind that everyone will still stay on the original bitcoin. And that's not BCH.

But you're forgetting that Core just forced thru the Segwit changes to "original Bitcoin". So "original Bitcoin" is not really Bitcoin anymore either. Rumor has it "original Bitcoin" may forking again when they refuse the 2MB hard fork of Segwit2x, because Core wants to start banning Segwit2x nodes...

At some point "original Bitcoin" could be so crippled that it loses value, That's where Bitcoin Cash could step in.

Bitcoin will always remain bitcoin. Because of Segwit it will not be called as the original bitcoin anymore? If you say so, if you want to push bitcoin cash for another highlight or you can see that this is going to be a good choice for everybody when it comes to transaction. Do it for yourself, well it's a fact that bitcoin's value can lose suddenly but if you think that BCH is the successor, I don't think so.

Forget about the scaling war for a minute. And don't worry about names.

What you seem to be oblivious to is that "Original bitcoin" just forcefully soft-forked to a completely different block storage and validation system (Segwit), which is as of yet unproven. Miners who don't wish to use Segwit have NO CHOICE but to use it if they want their blocks to be accepted. So "original bitcoin" has changed by 6000 lines of code, and the network is working very differently at this very moment. Most people on this forum seem happy about this new change, but that doesn't mean that "original bitcoin" remains the same. Furthermore, new attack vectors have been uncovered by Segwit.

Bitcoin Cash, on the other hand, opted to remain with the ORIGINAL BITCOIN block storage and validation method - no Segwit. Are you starting to see my point?



You can ignore segwit if you don't like it, the fact that miners must block segwit enabled bitcoins has no impact on your BTC holdings.

It is a soft fork. What did you expect, to create an altcoin that has segwit? that would create a crash on the price, and the main point was to avoid a hardfork so we don't end up with a bunch of different bitcoins all claiming to be the original bitcoin.

The legacy chain is the original bitcoin, with or without segwit. Maybe in the future a reasonable hardfork can be made, not anytime soon.

If BCash is so awesome and original bitcoin, then dump your BTC for BCC.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: The_Dark_Knight on August 11, 2017, 03:28:22 AM
I think the Bticoin Cash will have a long way to be the bitcoin. Maybe with the support of the miners and the pools, the bitcoin cash will be great success in the future, so I will buy some and hold it as a long term investment.
Why would you want to hold bitcoin cash? Bitcoin cash is not going to last, it does not matter how much miner support it gets from some miners, most of the user base of bitcoin do not want anything to do with bitcoin cash and at the end that is going to be its downfall.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: doctor-s on August 11, 2017, 03:32:27 AM
Pure FUD ! Bitcoin Cash is an ALTCOIN. This is why discussion about it take place here.

No. Bitcoin cash is a fork of bitcoin.

It is actually closer in code to the original bitcoin than segwit bitcoin is.

Discussion about bitcoin cash takes place here because this forum is controlled by people with certain agendas


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: rageanurage on August 11, 2017, 05:13:00 AM
No I don't think that bcc will be the btc. but bcc will increase more but does not touch Bitcoin


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: illyiller on August 11, 2017, 06:05:53 AM
I think the Bticoin Cash will have a long way to be the bitcoin. Maybe with the support of the miners and the pools, the bitcoin cash will be great success in the future, so I will buy some and hold it as a long term investment.
Why would you want to hold bitcoin cash? Bitcoin cash is not going to last, it does not matter how much miner support it gets from some miners, most of the user base of bitcoin do not want anything to do with bitcoin cash and at the end that is going to be its downfall.

Same logic that Ethereum supporters used when the ETC split happened. I'm not saying that BCC could overtake Bitcoin. That seems incredibly unlikely. But ETC didn't have a community, hardly any hashpower and no services when the split happened. Yet it still dumped and pumped like most other altcoins and it basically just tracks the ETH chart now. So there may be some good money to be made on holding it.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: Limbor on August 11, 2017, 09:42:03 PM
After a sharp price jump in the first hours of the existence of this coin, we see only a decline. I do not think that this coin has any future. Most likely in a few months we will forget about it


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: -security- on August 11, 2017, 09:46:59 PM
At the beginning Hashrate distribution does not look good.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: The_Dark_Knight on August 12, 2017, 07:00:44 PM
I think the Bticoin Cash will have a long way to be the bitcoin. Maybe with the support of the miners and the pools, the bitcoin cash will be great success in the future, so I will buy some and hold it as a long term investment.
Why would you want to hold bitcoin cash? Bitcoin cash is not going to last, it does not matter how much miner support it gets from some miners, most of the user base of bitcoin do not want anything to do with bitcoin cash and at the end that is going to be its downfall.

Same logic that Ethereum supporters used when the ETC split happened. I'm not saying that BCC could overtake Bitcoin. That seems incredibly unlikely. But ETC didn't have a community, hardly any hashpower and no services when the split happened. Yet it still dumped and pumped like most other altcoins and it basically just tracks the ETH chart now. So there may be some good money to be made on holding it.
But then that will mean that this coin will be only for speculators and traders an in such a case what is the incentive to hold the coin, you will not be able to do anything with it, and the miners thinking this could replace bitcoin will be left with only an altcoin that not many people care.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: illyiller on August 12, 2017, 10:42:39 PM
I think the Bticoin Cash will have a long way to be the bitcoin. Maybe with the support of the miners and the pools, the bitcoin cash will be great success in the future, so I will buy some and hold it as a long term investment.
Why would you want to hold bitcoin cash? Bitcoin cash is not going to last, it does not matter how much miner support it gets from some miners, most of the user base of bitcoin do not want anything to do with bitcoin cash and at the end that is going to be its downfall.

Same logic that Ethereum supporters used when the ETC split happened. I'm not saying that BCC could overtake Bitcoin. That seems incredibly unlikely. But ETC didn't have a community, hardly any hashpower and no services when the split happened. Yet it still dumped and pumped like most other altcoins and it basically just tracks the ETH chart now. So there may be some good money to be made on holding it.
But then that will mean that this coin will be only for speculators and traders an in such a case what is the incentive to hold the coin, you will not be able to do anything with it, and the miners thinking this could replace bitcoin will be left with only an altcoin that not many people care.

Well, that's just like any other altcoin, then. The speculative basis for this altcoin is that it has superior scaling and will have lower fees, but is otherwise "Bitcoin." Seems pretty crappy to me, but with the right marketing and even just a small community, they could retain position as a top 10 altcoin. That's a pretty big accomplishment in and of itself.

The Segwit2x fork looms, and I think this was a test bed for that. Unfortunately it looks like the lack of hashpower pointed at BCC is the primary reason people called it an altcoin, not because it was a hard fork...


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: sieemma on August 12, 2017, 11:01:20 PM
These people never stops about the fact that bitcoin cash is just another alt coin in the market. Bitcoin is bitcoin and it will never be replaced by another alt coin, it can be upgraded into v2.0 or something similar but it will remain bitcoin. Put that in your mind that everyone will still stay on the original bitcoin. And that's not BCH.

But you're forgetting that Core just forced thru the Segwit changes to "original Bitcoin". So "original Bitcoin" is not really Bitcoin anymore either. Rumor has it "original Bitcoin" may forking again when they refuse the 2MB hard fork of Segwit2x, because Core wants to start banning Segwit2x nodes...

At some point "original Bitcoin" could be so crippled that it loses value, That's where Bitcoin Cash could step in.

Bitcoin will always remain bitcoin. Because of Segwit it will not be called as the original bitcoin anymore? If you say so, if you want to push bitcoin cash for another highlight or you can see that this is going to be a good choice for everybody when it comes to transaction. Do it for yourself, well it's a fact that bitcoin's value can lose suddenly but if you think that BCH is the successor, I don't think so.

Forget about the scaling war for a minute. And don't worry about names.

What you seem to be oblivious to is that "Original bitcoin" just forcefully soft-forked to a completely different block storage and validation system (Segwit), which is as of yet unproven. Miners who don't wish to use Segwit have NO CHOICE but to use it if they want their blocks to be accepted. So "original bitcoin" has changed by 6000 lines of code, and the network is working very differently at this very moment. Most people on this forum seem happy about this new change, but that doesn't mean that "original bitcoin" remains the same. Furthermore, new attack vectors have been uncovered by Segwit.

Bitcoin Cash, on the other hand, opted to remain with the ORIGINAL BITCOIN block storage and validation method - no Segwit. Are you starting to see my point?



You can ignore segwit if you don't like it, the fact that miners must block segwit enabled bitcoins has no impact on your BTC holdings.

It is a soft fork. What did you expect, to create an altcoin that has segwit? that would create a crash on the price, and the main point was to avoid a hardfork so we don't end up with a bunch of different bitcoins all claiming to be the original bitcoin.

The legacy chain is the original bitcoin, with or without segwit. Maybe in the future a reasonable hardfork can be made, not anytime soon.

If BCash is so awesome and original bitcoin, then dump your BTC for BCC.
You have spoken like a hero, haha. I like your statement that if BCC is so awesome and the original btc, then dump BTC for BCC. That was the only thing I wanted to post here just to see it posted already so I needed to give you some credits for that.
I don't know why some people want their brothers to suffer/ or loss their had earn bitcoins. All(some) those who spread news that bcc is original are rewarmingthose who are dumping their BCC atm abd they are doing that to get more people buy their bcc. Let's beware of this!!!


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: DRaGoN RaNTaRo on August 12, 2017, 11:45:36 PM
You have spoken like a hero, haha. I like your statement that if BCC is so awesome and the original btc, then dump BTC for BCC. That was the only thing I wanted to post here just to see it posted already so I needed to give you some credits for that.
I don't know why some people want their brothers to suffer/ or loss their had earn bitcoins. All(some) those who spread news that bcc is original are rewarmingthose who are dumping their BCC atm abd they are doing that to get more people buy their bcc. Let's beware of this!!!
Just on a side note,the best price does not mean that it is the best technology and no one in their right sense will sell off their bitcoins just to collect bitcoin cash,if they are interested in it,they will invest more in it and if the price rises you could profit from it,other than that never expect anyone to sell off bitcoin just to get another coin.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: novhitadaloma on August 13, 2017, 12:04:50 AM
You have spoken like a hero, haha. I like your statement that if BCC is so awesome and the original btc, then dump BTC for BCC. That was the only thing I wanted to post here just to see it posted already so I needed to give you some credits for that.
I don't know why some people want their brothers to suffer/ or loss their had earn bitcoins. All(some) those who spread news that bcc is original are rewarmingthose who are dumping their BCC atm abd they are doing that to get more people buy their bcc. Let's beware of this!!!
Just on a side note,the best price does not mean that it is the best technology and no one in their right sense will sell off their bitcoins just to collect bitcoin cash,if they are interested in it,they will invest more in it and if the price rises you could profit from it,other than that never expect anyone to sell off bitcoin just to get another coin.

I think BCC is a failed product! So why do some of you want to sell bitcoin just to buy bitcoincash. Even bitcoincash transactions once delivery takes 4-5 hours with 6 confirmations. That's far from what some people say that bitcoincash will make bitcoin die. LOL


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: andrew24p on August 13, 2017, 12:23:44 AM
What gives bitcoin the edge over bitcoin cash is very simple, its the developers. Do what you want, but core has the best dev team period, bitcoin cash devs are amateurs in comparison.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: dimatu on August 13, 2017, 12:33:23 AM
Bitcoin cash will grow, but it will always remain in the shadow of bitcoin.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: guesswhat on August 13, 2017, 12:51:52 AM
You have spoken like a hero, haha. I like your statement that if BCC is so awesome and the original btc, then dump BTC for BCC. That was the only thing I wanted to post here just to see it posted already so I needed to give you some credits for that.
I don't know why some people want their brothers to suffer/ or loss their had earn bitcoins. All(some) those who spread news that bcc is original are rewarmingthose who are dumping their BCC atm abd they are doing that to get more people buy their bcc. Let's beware of this!!!
Just on a side note,the best price does not mean that it is the best technology and no one in their right sense will sell off their bitcoins just to collect bitcoin cash,if they are interested in it,they will invest more in it and if the price rises you could profit from it,other than that never expect anyone to sell off bitcoin just to get another coin.

I think BCC is a failed product! So why do some of you want to sell bitcoin just to buy bitcoincash. Even bitcoincash transactions once delivery takes 4-5 hours with 6 confirmations. That's far from what some people say that bitcoincash will make bitcoin die. LOL

I'm with you. Bch is a dead-born copy of real bitcoin. Nobody believes in Bch and everybody dumped it very hard. There is no future in Bch because there is not any objective for it. It's not like bitcoin and it will never have the usage of bitcoin.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: ethereumhunter on August 13, 2017, 02:01:42 AM
You have spoken like a hero, haha. I like your statement that if BCC is so awesome and the original btc, then dump BTC for BCC. That was the only thing I wanted to post here just to see it posted already so I needed to give you some credits for that.
I don't know why some people want their brothers to suffer/ or loss their had earn bitcoins. All(some) those who spread news that bcc is original are rewarmingthose who are dumping their BCC atm abd they are doing that to get more people buy their bcc. Let's beware of this!!!
Just on a side note,the best price does not mean that it is the best technology and no one in their right sense will sell off their bitcoins just to collect bitcoin cash,if they are interested in it,they will invest more in it and if the price rises you could profit from it,other than that never expect anyone to sell off bitcoin just to get another coin.

I think BCC is a failed product! So why do some of you want to sell bitcoin just to buy bitcoincash. Even bitcoincash transactions once delivery takes 4-5 hours with 6 confirmations. That's far from what some people say that bitcoincash will make bitcoin die. LOL

I'm with you. Bch is a dead-born copy of real bitcoin. Nobody believes in Bch and everybody dumped it very hard. There is no future in Bch because there is not any objective for it. It's not like bitcoin and it will never have the usage of bitcoin.

although bcc is failed product but we realize that from bcc, we can make money too especially if bcc is start to increase although bcc is not the same as bitcoin but at least, we have free bcc in first time launch. but if in the future, bcc can not give anything for people, then bcc will be abandon and people will leave from bcc.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: SmokerFace on August 13, 2017, 02:02:37 AM
What are you talking about? I see that you are a BCH supporter but you should know that Bitcoin clone aka. BCH,  has no future.
I think Bitcoin Cash have a future because of it's supporters that continiuosly investing on it but it will never be like bitcoin or BCH can't dominate bitcoin because bitcoin is the main currency of all of the altcoins and all of the investors supporting it not like BCH and look at how fast bitcoin rising this year is the proof that it will not be dominated by Bitcoin Cash.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: lawlawlaw on August 13, 2017, 02:37:33 AM
it wouldn't be BCC if it's BTC, right? *mind blown*


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: Barbarian on August 13, 2017, 03:22:09 AM
Even with segwit, BlockStreamcoin can only scale to 4.5 tx/sec

Mining cartels will refuse to implement any new scaling proposals for BScoin

Meanwhile the real Bitcoin will have 2000 tx/sec

Blockstream and core devs are working with the US gov to force users off-chain

Big blocks or GTFO
And what good is going to come to being able to have that many transactions per second in bitcoin cash when a spammer can create and fill the network with spam and then no transactions are going to get confirmed, how are they going to fight against that?


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: Ahimoth on August 13, 2017, 03:52:18 AM
You have spoken like a hero, haha. I like your statement that if BCC is so awesome and the original btc, then dump BTC for BCC. That was the only thing I wanted to post here just to see it posted already so I needed to give you some credits for that.
I don't know why some people want their brothers to suffer/ or loss their had earn bitcoins. All(some) those who spread news that bcc is original are rewarmingthose who are dumping their BCC atm abd they are doing that to get more people buy their bcc. Let's beware of this!!!
Just on a side note,the best price does not mean that it is the best technology and no one in their right sense will sell off their bitcoins just to collect bitcoin cash,if they are interested in it,they will invest more in it and if the price rises you could profit from it,other than that never expect anyone to sell off bitcoin just to get another coin.

I think BCC is a failed product! So why do some of you want to sell bitcoin just to buy bitcoincash. Even bitcoincash transactions once delivery takes 4-5 hours with 6 confirmations. That's far from what some people say that bitcoincash will make bitcoin die. LOL

The one who will do this is totally insane, like its so riduculous, exchanging your btc to bcc? Its like exchanging gold to stone. Maybe there's a few who will support bcc but this few support doesnt make bcc to succeed. It will always be a trying hard, imitation coin. And I think bcc is controlling by some big whales thats why the price is still good.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: Filmmmakerr on August 13, 2017, 07:23:51 AM
Meanwhile bitcoin hits $4500  8)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: illyiller on August 13, 2017, 09:11:58 AM
What gives bitcoin the edge over bitcoin cash is very simple, its the developers. Do what you want, but core has the best dev team period, bitcoin cash devs are amateurs in comparison.

This is what it comes down to, and it's also why XT, Classic and Unlimited were widely rejected as well. I think that the Bitcoin community (users, investors, services) are increasingly aware of the tremendous work that Core does, and are increasingly unlikely to follow a fork that Core doesn't support. I'm starting to think that a lot of the NYA backers are going to start defecting, given that Core seems firmly opposed to the November hard fork by the Segwit2x team.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: bitcoinvestor on August 13, 2017, 09:22:39 AM
100 years later BCH will be bitcoin in price, bitcoin will be the king of coin. OK, see now the price of BTC, it is  more than 3400 and BCH 0.08-0.09 BTC. BCH will be left by ETH and waves. BCH is shitcoin from China. I don't like chinese coin. I like BITCOIN.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: condura150 on August 13, 2017, 11:38:46 AM
Even with segwit, BlockStreamcoin can only scale to 4.5 tx/sec

Mining cartels will refuse to implement any new scaling proposals for BScoin

Meanwhile the real Bitcoin will have 2000 tx/sec

Blockstream and core devs are working with the US gov to force users off-chain

Big blocks or GTFO

I don't think that Bitcoin Cash can level with or even surpass Bitcoin. Bitcoin Cash has a future, maybe, but there are many greater altcoins out there and I think that Bitcoin Cash has a long way to go. But it's your opinion after all, I will take Bitcoin's side and will forever support bitcoin until the end.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: SIHIN on August 13, 2017, 03:36:21 PM
I think bch can not possibly match the bitcoin because
 I think the bitcoin system is stronger than bch and the bitcoin also coins have been around for a long time
so that people are more familiar with bitcoin than bch.
If bch exceeds eth it is possible but if it equals or even exceeds btc i guess that is not possible


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: AbsoluteT on August 13, 2017, 04:18:45 PM
If Bitcoin cash was gonna take over the market share it had to happen in a more even way right after the split.

I think they have lost there opportunity now


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: ngerok on August 13, 2017, 06:16:39 PM
100 years later BCH will be bitcoin in price, bitcoin will be the king of coin. OK, see now the price of BTC, it is  more than 3400 and BCH 0.08-0.09 BTC. BCH will be left by ETH and waves. BCH is shitcoin from China. I don't like chinese coin. I like BITCOIN.
Yes very true, with the Bitcoin Cash or BCH many people are trapped in the BCH, They lose their money because they think that BCC will go up like Bitcoin. Bitcoin cash shitcoin is very annoying.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: Dullmartini on August 13, 2017, 09:25:04 PM
Someone is obviously supporting it. It's not just people trapped in it but when price goes down you see big orders pumping money into it. Either someone believes in it or has a big stake in it

As long as that keeps happening, you can make good money on it.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: 25hashcoin on August 13, 2017, 10:02:55 PM
https://bitcoinandtheblockchain.blogspot.co.il/2017/08/btc-is-dead-long-live-btc-updated-and.html


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: tabas on August 13, 2017, 10:34:26 PM
So it's a good thing that I haven't sold my bitcoin cash before and didn't ride with the hype of selling it then? I regret seeing it at .06 and treating it as a nuisance coin. I'm looking at Ethereum classic and comparing it with bitcoin and bitcoin cash.

PS. I still haven't imported my bch's.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: illyiller on August 14, 2017, 01:57:42 AM
Someone is obviously supporting it. It's not just people trapped in it but when price goes down you see big orders pumping money into it. Either someone believes in it or has a big stake in it

As long as that keeps happening, you can make good money on it.

I think that this could turn out a bit differently than with Ethereum Classic. In that case, the developers and miners were in agreement to run the forked version of the software.

Here, it appears that miners are generally in agreement to continue running Core. But the principle difference is that Bitmain is rumored to control a majority of hashpower. So it would be interesting to see what happened if hashpower gradually -- to the give the appearance of organic adoption -- shifted towards Bitcoin Cash, until it eventually had a higher hash rate. It's possible given Bitmain's position. I don't know whether they would do that, but majority hash power has a powerful effect on public opinion.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: sammrheza on August 14, 2017, 02:44:47 AM
looks like it just being manipulated , or it will be 1:1 to bitcoin soon


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: Russlenat on August 14, 2017, 04:58:58 AM
Bitcoin Cash for me will not be a Bitcoin because it is just an Alt-coin for me now, but still we don't know what well happen next to this Bitcoin Cash in the future.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: ImHash on August 14, 2017, 06:19:42 AM
We cannot change any crypto currency on bitcoin even bitcoin cash can' overcome bitcoin. We know that Bitcoin cash is a good coin and really have a future but we can't say that it can change bitcoin to bitcoin cash. Because of bitcoin the bitcoin cash is made so there is no bitcoin cash if bitcoin will appeared.
You know after I read your comment I couldn't keep reading the rest of the other comments, I'm just very angry now :D
@Op, it's really up to people to decide if they want to use this fork coin or not, I have no respect for it, because those who forked bitcoin are still mining bitcoin, nothing really changed other than having 16.4M extra coins to dump which I'm grateful for that :D


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: alyssa85 on August 14, 2017, 06:58:59 AM
Poloniex has now distributed bitcoincash to those who had bitcoin on their exchange. Check your accounts, people. They've also created markets for bch against bitcoin and ether.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: illyiller on August 14, 2017, 07:41:15 AM
Poloniex has now distributed bitcoincash to those who had bitcoin on their exchange. Check your accounts, people. They've also created markets for bch against bitcoin and ether.

I guess we can expect another round of dumping given all the new and liquid supply? Unless a whale shows up to support the price on Poloniex and swallow up that new supply.

I have to say, though, it's held up remarkably well considering the fact that it's got no fundamentals and bitcoiners have widely rejected it. Someone with deep pockets has definitely been supporting the price.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: classicsucks on August 14, 2017, 08:22:26 AM
These people never stops about the fact that bitcoin cash is just another alt coin in the market. Bitcoin is bitcoin and it will never be replaced by another alt coin, it can be upgraded into v2.0 or something similar but it will remain bitcoin. Put that in your mind that everyone will still stay on the original bitcoin. And that's not BCH.

But you're forgetting that Core just forced thru the Segwit changes to "original Bitcoin". So "original Bitcoin" is not really Bitcoin anymore either. Rumor has it "original Bitcoin" may forking again when they refuse the 2MB hard fork of Segwit2x, because Core wants to start banning Segwit2x nodes...

At some point "original Bitcoin" could be so crippled that it loses value, That's where Bitcoin Cash could step in.

Bitcoin will always remain bitcoin. Because of Segwit it will not be called as the original bitcoin anymore? If you say so, if you want to push bitcoin cash for another highlight or you can see that this is going to be a good choice for everybody when it comes to transaction. Do it for yourself, well it's a fact that bitcoin's value can lose suddenly but if you think that BCH is the successor, I don't think so.

Forget about the scaling war for a minute. And don't worry about names.

What you seem to be oblivious to is that "Original bitcoin" just forcefully soft-forked to a completely different block storage and validation system (Segwit), which is as of yet unproven. Miners who don't wish to use Segwit have NO CHOICE but to use it if they want their blocks to be accepted. So "original bitcoin" has changed by 6000 lines of code, and the network is working very differently at this very moment. Most people on this forum seem happy about this new change, but that doesn't mean that "original bitcoin" remains the same. Furthermore, new attack vectors have been uncovered by Segwit.

Bitcoin Cash, on the other hand, opted to remain with the ORIGINAL BITCOIN block storage and validation method - no Segwit. Are you starting to see my point?



You can ignore segwit if you don't like it, the fact that miners must block segwit enabled bitcoins has no impact on your BTC holdings.

It is a soft fork. What did you expect, to create an altcoin that has segwit? that would create a crash on the price, and the main point was to avoid a hardfork so we don't end up with a bunch of different bitcoins all claiming to be the original bitcoin.

The legacy chain is the original bitcoin, with or without segwit. Maybe in the future a reasonable hardfork can be made, not anytime soon.

If BCash is so awesome and original bitcoin, then dump your BTC for BCC.

It's really fascinating to see these "Blockstream talking points" regurgitated. Perhaps you don't know that hundreds of altcoins hard forked this year, and there was not a single issue with the hard forks?

And I suppose the Kore fanbois do believe that you can "ignore something if you don't like it"? Finally, this "if BCC is so hot, dump your BTC for BCC" logical fail again. To illustrate, how many Kore fanbois are NOT dumping their BCC? Think about it.

BTC is pumping just like LTC did when Segwit locked in. Remember what happened the following month? Also, BCC is holding its value vs. BTC quite well, especially in the context of rapid appreciation of BTC.



Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: joseafonso123az on August 14, 2017, 08:23:13 AM
I believe bitcoin cash has it's potential. But making things like bitcoin and get a high fledging value could take years. It may also get stable or decrease it's current value if bitcoin gets it's problematic transaction fees to get lower. If you want to invest on them do it,  but keep in min that they could be possibly like other ICO's.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: L on August 14, 2017, 08:55:05 AM
I sold it as soon as BCH was credit and trading enabled, sold pretty high, 0.25BTC, compared to current rate, all the schmucks were buying like it was the new bitcoin. :D

Good luck with that.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: zhouanchao on August 14, 2017, 08:59:57 AM
The poloniex news:

Those who had BTC in their account balance on 8/1/17, 13:16:14 UTC have been credited with matching BCH - BTC, ETH, & USDT markets added.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: Alex_He on August 14, 2017, 09:01:53 AM
I sold it as soon as BCH was credit and trading enabled, sold pretty high, 0.25BTC, compared to current rate, all the schmucks were buying like it was the new bitcoin. :D

Good luck with that.

That might be the highest so far. Not sure it will be the same case in the future.  ;D


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: L on August 14, 2017, 09:49:19 AM
I sold it as soon as BCH was credit and trading enabled, sold pretty high, 0.25BTC, compared to current rate, all the schmucks were buying like it was the new bitcoin. :D

Good luck with that.

That might be the highest so far. Not sure it will be the same case in the future.  ;D

It was the initial euphoria before people could deposit on exchanges, it went almost double than what I sold and I thought I put a really high sell order. :D


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: V1saya on August 14, 2017, 11:33:06 AM
100 years later BCH will be bitcoin in price, bitcoin will be the king of coin. OK, see now the price of BTC, it is  more than 3400 and BCH 0.08-0.09 BTC. BCH will be left by ETH and waves. BCH is shitcoin from China. I don't like chinese coin. I like BITCOIN.
Yes very true, with the Bitcoin Cash or BCH many people are trapped in the BCH, They lose their money because they think that BCC will go up like Bitcoin. Bitcoin cash shitcoin is very annoying.

If they really plan to invest on Bitcoin Cash they should have at least waited for its price to go very low and before they buy and then hold. If the events turn out to be against Bitcoin Cash, at least they are already entering on a low level. Because entering during the high level will most probably give them losses rather than profits. The risk is also higher as well.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: PadenoM on August 14, 2017, 11:35:56 AM
I hope it will use the success of btc to grow and becomebhreat


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: hamza1044 on August 14, 2017, 11:41:58 AM
yes bitcoin is the king now or in future , and bcc have a good future .


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: shimbark123 on August 14, 2017, 11:44:14 AM
LOL. Do not believe in Bitcoin Cash or also known as BCC or BCH or whatever. I don't believe in this coin because it is just a carbon copy of bitcoin. And bitcoin is still the best cryptocurrency there is. And NOBODY could beat this cryptocurrency. If you are a supporter of BCH then go. But I am not. There were many reasons, one of it is that it makes the transaction time longer. Yeah, still supporting BCH?


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: roadbits on August 14, 2017, 11:45:40 AM
100 years later BCH will be bitcoin in price, bitcoin will be the king of coin. OK, see now the price of BTC, it is  more than 3400 and BCH 0.08-0.09 BTC. BCH will be left by ETH and waves. BCH is shitcoin from China. I don't like chinese coin. I like BITCOIN.
Yes very true, with the Bitcoin Cash or BCH many people are trapped in the BCH, They lose their money because they think that BCC will go up like Bitcoin. Bitcoin cash shitcoin is very annoying.

If they really plan to invest on Bitcoin Cash they should have at least waited for its price to go very low and before they buy and then hold. If the events turn out to be against Bitcoin Cash, at least they are already entering on a low level. Because entering during the high level will most probably give them losses rather than profits. The risk is also higher as well.

When it enters the market, I think many newbies are trapped and lost money investing on this shit coin BCH. That day only I understood this coin definitely come down within few hours like that happen within 36 hours its fell like hell. Now I think no one will believe this shit coin and no investors will show interest to put their money on this coin. Bitcoin is the evergreen coin in the digital world.  


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: NJB18 on August 14, 2017, 12:01:44 PM
Yes it will be the bitcoin but it has another word after it and it is cash. LOL.  ;D

Bitcoin Cash will remain as Bitcoin Cash. Bitcoin is Bitcoin. It is not Bitcoin Cash. Bitcoin Cash will never be Bitcoin because it has some tail in it. Never will a time comes when Bitcoin will be replaced by a copycat.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: gabmen on August 14, 2017, 12:07:47 PM
Folly. At best, i think bcc or bch would be behind bitcoin and etherium but it won't breach the top 2 cryptocurrency today. Bitcoin would continue its rise which we're seeing right now even more that its getting more and more followers


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: VanDeinsberg12 on August 14, 2017, 12:15:40 PM
Yes it will be the bitcoin but it has another word after it and it is cash. LOL.  ;D

Bitcoin Cash will remain as Bitcoin Cash. Bitcoin is Bitcoin. It is not Bitcoin Cash. Bitcoin Cash will never be Bitcoin because it has some tail in it. Never will a time comes when Bitcoin will be replaced by a copycat.
I think that he's not literally meant it. But i honestly agree with you, as for now the value of bitcoin is far above bitcoin cash and by seeing the network problem which bitcoin cash encounter, didn't really think it'll surpass bitcoin. well, people get their bcc for free, what do you expect than mass dumping?


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: HardFireMiner on August 14, 2017, 12:30:42 PM
After reading this topic I am in a dilemma.

Thinking of buying BCH if it rises above 500$. It is still too early to know which one will have more value, but I am optimistic, I believe they both will be very valuable, much more valuable than now, hundreds fold.

 


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: Noore Najjar on August 14, 2017, 12:33:30 PM
Even with segwit, BlockStreamcoin can only scale to 4.5 tx/sec

Mining cartels will refuse to implement any new scaling proposals for BScoin

Meanwhile the real Bitcoin will have 2000 tx/sec

Blockstream and core devs are working with the US gov to force users off-chain

Big blocks or GTFO

 i dont know what are you talking about, next btc ? lmao thats a nonsense even with these pumps and many new fans bcc will stil lcant overcome bitcoin , probably next couple of years but who knows , but i hope not


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: orpel on August 14, 2017, 01:52:13 PM
Behind any coin, there should be a strong belief that it's worth something, it's scalable and it's well known all over.
At the moment too many people think that Bcash is a temporary coin, the outcome of misunderstanding between developers groups.

We should all remember that no matter how some miners will put their mining power in the new coin, they have tons of Bitcoins still from the last few years. They all have interest in the continuance of Bitcoin growth.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: illyiller on August 14, 2017, 11:55:53 PM
Behind any coin, there should be a strong belief that it's worth something, it's scalable and it's well known all over.
At the moment too many people think that Bcash is a temporary coin, the outcome of misunderstanding between developers groups.

There is a tangible feeling among bitcoiners that Bitcoin Cash is temporary and will die. I think it's more likely just going through a distribution phase, where BTC supporters are dumping their BCH. Meanwhile, BCH supporters appear to be accumulating. There is a general feeling that BTC is the true "Bitcoin" and BCH is the altcoin. This probably won't change.

But like Ethereum Classic, Bitcoin Cash is not going away. There is also a small chance that (once mining is profitable) more and more hashpower will gradually be pointed at BCH. Why? Because it's Bitmain's project, and Bitmain controls a lot of hash power. I'd love to see what the markets do then.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: MiriamWeston on August 15, 2017, 01:19:41 AM
BCC became BTC is baseless because to be like BTC it has to go through the darkest period and now bTC has come to light


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: crazyer on August 15, 2017, 01:25:01 AM
BCC became BTC is baseless because to be like BTC it has to go through the darkest period and now bTC has come to light

I agree with you. BCC will never replace BTC. With me BCC very meaningless. It is free and I do not trust it.
BTC can not be replaced by any other coin.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: Hafas Rama on August 15, 2017, 02:12:52 AM
The presence of BCC is of great interest to the crypto world.
But in my opinion BCC has not been able to equate with BTC.
Because of the BTC used to exist and take a long time to become the most expensive coins today.
So BCC should take a long time to be close to or equal to BTC.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: michellee on August 15, 2017, 02:33:16 AM
bitcoin cash will never be the bitcoin but maybe bitcoin cash will be act like bitcoin. with bitcoin price is increasing, I am sure that many people can not buy a 1 bitcoin, they need big money to buy bitcoin. I think this could be the one of many reason why bitcoin cash is created. bitcoin cash make a balance between bitcoin and altcoin and I think soon we can see that there is a market for bitcoin cash pair altcoin and altcoin will be used bitcoin cash as their adjustment because bitcoin price is too expensive to be altcoin price adjustment. 


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: The_Dark_Knight on August 15, 2017, 02:41:19 AM
What gives bitcoin the edge over bitcoin cash is very simple, its the developers. Do what you want, but core has the best dev team period, bitcoin cash devs are amateurs in comparison.

This is what it comes down to, and it's also why XT, Classic and Unlimited were widely rejected as well. I think that the Bitcoin community (users, investors, services) are increasingly aware of the tremendous work that Core does, and are increasingly unlikely to follow a fork that Core doesn't support. I'm starting to think that a lot of the NYA backers are going to start defecting, given that Core seems firmly opposed to the November hard fork by the Segwit2x team.
I hope this happens, the bitcoin cash fork was troubling but nothing that bitcoin could not manage, the fork planned for November is a lot more dangerous so if we can avoid that situation then I think it will be better for all of us, the devs, the miners and the user base.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: illyiller on August 16, 2017, 06:30:41 AM
What gives bitcoin the edge over bitcoin cash is very simple, its the developers. Do what you want, but core has the best dev team period, bitcoin cash devs are amateurs in comparison.

This is what it comes down to, and it's also why XT, Classic and Unlimited were widely rejected as well. I think that the Bitcoin community (users, investors, services) are increasingly aware of the tremendous work that Core does, and are increasingly unlikely to follow a fork that Core doesn't support. I'm starting to think that a lot of the NYA backers are going to start defecting, given that Core seems firmly opposed to the November hard fork by the Segwit2x team.
I hope this happens, the bitcoin cash fork was troubling but nothing that bitcoin could not manage, the fork planned for November is a lot more dangerous so if we can avoid that situation then I think it will be better for all of us, the devs, the miners and the user base.

I agree. It would be best for all if we could avoid a significant network split. Bitfury has already shown signs that they are leaning towards pulling out. Unfortunately, though, they are small fish now. Bitmain is the real contender. And major bitcoin services like Bitpay and Coinbase want cheap on-chain fees.

So, if we have big names like Garzik (even though he is crap by bitcoin development standards), combined with majority hashpower via Bitmain and exchanges like Coinbase/payment processors like Bitpay, that's a lot of potential support for a fork. Bitpay has said they will follow majority hashpower, and they will take a lot of merchants/customers with them. Exchanges are even more important in that regard. I do hope we can avoid such a split, but it's probably good to be prepared for such scenarios.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: Bittoshi on August 16, 2017, 06:37:36 AM
Sold my free BCC yesterday (the free coins you got just for holding BTC) before the price will drop more and more. It's just another Altcoin and has not many support. Personally I don't believe that price will rise much in future but of course I may be wrong.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: L on August 16, 2017, 09:36:18 AM
Sold my free BCC yesterday (the free coins you got just for holding BTC) before the price will drop more and more. It's just another Altcoin and has not many support. Personally I don't believe that price will rise much in future but of course I may be wrong.

If it is backed by the Chinese government it can increase a lot in the future, although the real deal is bitcoin and that's where we should put our money.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: Paycoinzzz on August 16, 2017, 10:49:43 AM
What gives bitcoin the edge over bitcoin cash is very simple, its the developers. Do what you want, but core has the best dev team period, bitcoin cash devs are amateurs in comparison.

This is what it comes down to, and it's also why XT, Classic and Unlimited were widely rejected as well. I think that the Bitcoin community (users, investors, services) are increasingly aware of the tremendous work that Core does, and are increasingly unlikely to follow a fork that Core doesn't support. I'm starting to think that a lot of the NYA backers are going to start defecting, given that Core seems firmly opposed to the November hard fork by the Segwit2x team.
I hope this happens, the bitcoin cash fork was troubling but nothing that bitcoin could not manage, the fork planned for November is a lot more dangerous so if we can avoid that situation then I think it will be better for all of us, the devs, the miners and the user base.
To me, not need worry about the time HardFork in November, because if the price of Bitcoin reach to highest price, I will sell my Bitcoin.
Just saving small amount like provident funds in future ::).


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: Kema on August 16, 2017, 11:36:35 AM
The big question is how BCC will move in regard to BTC for the foreseeable future.

BCC is in a transfer process, it'll be a while until holders of BTC have transferred the BCC to BCC wallets.
It seems reasonable that BTC followers are dumping to get as much as possible for the BCC.
BCC believers are likely accumulating since it's usually good to buy while others are dumping.

But then what? Once the dumping is done, will it start climbing or will it just fade away? For now the price of BCC seems to have leveled out and isn't moving all that much, but that won't go on forever. At some point it should start moving one way or the other. Will it move up or down once it starts moving?



Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: Valzzz005 on August 16, 2017, 12:28:07 PM
Even with segwit, BlockStreamcoin can only scale to 4.5 tx/sec

Mining cartels will refuse to implement any new scaling proposals for BScoin

Meanwhile the real Bitcoin will have 2000 tx/sec

Blockstream and core devs are working with the US gov to force users off-chain

Big blocks or GTFO
The fact that bitcoin cash are came from bitcoins it doesn't mean it will be the bitcoins. They are just getting started at this business their name was just exactly the same as the original but we cannot say that they will also be successful as what bitcoins had become. For me no one from this period of time will ever surpassed bitcoins maybe in the next century they will but today bitcoins are the best, the king of all cryptocurrencies.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: unixguy on August 16, 2017, 01:29:02 PM
Bitcoin is king of crypto currency.
Bitcoin is just not a currency , its an idea. And always remember "An idea is a very dangerous thing".


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: n00b3rt on August 16, 2017, 01:44:12 PM
The big question is how BCC will move in regard to BTC for the foreseeable future.

BCC is in a transfer process, it'll be a while until holders of BTC have transferred the BCC to BCC wallets.
It seems reasonable that BTC followers are dumping to get as much as possible for the BCC.
BCC believers are likely accumulating since it's usually good to buy while others are dumping.

But then what? Once the dumping is done, will it start climbing or will it just fade away? For now the price of BCC seems to have leveled out and isn't moving all that much, but that won't go on forever. At some point it should start moving one way or the other. Will it move up or down once it starts moving?



Blocks have been quick enough for days. Your post would have made sense last week.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: illyiller on August 17, 2017, 06:47:23 AM
Sold my free BCC yesterday (the free coins you got just for holding BTC) before the price will drop more and more. It's just another Altcoin and has not many support. Personally I don't believe that price will rise much in future but of course I may be wrong.

If it is backed by the Chinese government it can increase a lot in the future

Why would you possibly think it's backed by the Chinese government?

Sold my free BCC yesterday (the free coins you got just for holding BTC) before the price will drop more and more. It's just another Altcoin and has not many support. Personally I don't believe that price will rise much in future but of course I may be wrong.

I still haven't done anything, mostly because it's too much of a risk and hassle to move my BTC from cold storage. The liquid BTC I have is small enough that it doesn't make it worth it, either. I think it'll form a long term base and pump like any other altcoin, eventually.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: arpon11 on August 17, 2017, 07:14:36 AM
Bitcoin core has established a great foundation all cryptocurrency business and investment are established in bitcoin core. Bitcoin Cash is established and it stands as altcoins it is not in competition with bitcoin core and I don't think  itcan replace bitcoin core.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: Barbarian on August 17, 2017, 08:29:06 PM
If Bitcoin cash was gonna take over the market share it had to happen in a more even way right after the split.

I think they have lost there opportunity now
They never had any chance, bitcoin cash is just an altcoin and not a very good one, if bitcoin cash did not had bitcoin on its name no one will look at this coin for a single second and yet there is in one of the top places in market cap but I think that is not going to last for long.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: IAMYOURLEADER on August 18, 2017, 03:08:14 AM
If Bitcoin cash was gonna take over the market share it had to happen in a more even way right after the split.

I think they have lost there opportunity now
They never had any chance, bitcoin cash is just an altcoin and not a very good one, if bitcoin cash did not had bitcoin on its name no one will look at this coin for a single second and yet there is in one of the top places in market cap but I think that is not going to last for long.


They should change its name from bitcoincash to bitcoinshit because it's literally a shit from bitcoin. It will just be treated as trash for some few months.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: Indrawan77 on August 18, 2017, 03:39:42 AM
Bitcoincash dont have any future, a coin cloning from any coin is never going to succeed and after few days the price slammed down and dont have a really big transaction like predicted, and how can an alt coin become bitcoin, its not that easy to replace bitcoin


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: HippiePyro on August 18, 2017, 03:47:45 AM
Sometimes ignorance make me facepalm. I will admit I don't know enough to truly say what will happen. Many big wigs are starting to take a liking to BCH. It currently has longer sustainably then BTC, and more miner friendly than SegWit.Today's prices will make many wonder...


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: HardFireMiner on August 18, 2017, 10:07:07 AM
It began, ready or not.

It is now more profitable to mine BCH.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: QueenOfCrypto on August 18, 2017, 10:08:28 AM
I guess this is quite unlikely, but in cryptos you never know. The fact that it is more rewarding to mine it is quite intriguing.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: Carlsen on August 18, 2017, 10:13:23 AM
Maybe bitcoin cash will be the payment form of bitcoin, and bitcoin will be the investment form of it.
With the increased blocksize bitcoin cash could handle the transactions faster.
And for bitcoin as an investment not so much transactions would be necessare anyhow.
The problem I see is that if bitcoin cash would become more valuable, it would turn out to be an investment itself.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: zabisux on August 18, 2017, 11:01:18 AM
I don't think bitcoin cash will reach that point ever in its life time. Bitcoin is too good to fail, too good to lose. Noone will leave it to dead.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: coinzoid on August 18, 2017, 11:07:27 AM
Maybe bitcoin cash will be the payment form of bitcoin, and bitcoin will be the investment form of it.
With the increased blocksize bitcoin cash could handle the transactions faster.
And for bitcoin as an investment not so much transactions would be necessare anyhow.
The problem I see is that if bitcoin cash would become more valuable, it would turn out to be an investment itself.


Investors still would want to use only one of those. Imagine you are an investor of bitcoin, but due to long transaction time and high fees, you need to wait before selling your bag for profit. If I were such investor, I'd use the fastest one and I think bitcoin will outperform bitcoin cash in the long run.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: HardFireMiner on August 18, 2017, 11:12:20 AM
No miners, no power, this is how POW work. Being more profitable to mine BCH now, any move from BTC hash power to BCH is crucial. 10% is a lot, if this happens, all will switch.

Difficulty will readjust in this case in 20 days, at best.

Interesting times :)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: HippiePyro on August 18, 2017, 12:39:45 PM
Why does BCH and BTC have different circulating supplies? Almost 20k different


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: HardFireMiner on August 18, 2017, 12:50:38 PM
Why does BCH and BTC have different circulating supplies? Almost 20k different

From August 1, they had almost the same difficulty but huge difference in hashing power, more BTC was mined as it was more profitable.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: HippiePyro on August 18, 2017, 01:01:03 PM
Thank you very much. Makes perfect sense, I did not think of that.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: Rinaze on August 18, 2017, 01:22:27 PM
BCH need to have its' own reddit first before replacing BTC :P

Joke aside, I think the upcoming BCH 2.0 (supposedly the fork does happen) should be even closer to BTC. What's stopping BCH 2.0 to be better than 1.0?

Then again, closer doesn't mean replacing BTC. No currency coins would be BTC's killer, period.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: nasipadang on August 18, 2017, 02:29:19 PM
Bitcoin cash can't be the bitcoin because bitcoin cash is not bitcoin, bitcoin cash needs a lot of supporters especially miners, I'm not sure bitcoin cash will exceed bitcoin even though it's been through a long time.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: kokojie on August 18, 2017, 02:39:59 PM
Maybe bitcoin cash will be the payment form of bitcoin, and bitcoin will be the investment form of it.
With the increased blocksize bitcoin cash could handle the transactions faster.
And for bitcoin as an investment not so much transactions would be necessare anyhow.
The problem I see is that if bitcoin cash would become more valuable, it would turn out to be an investment itself.


No, I wouldn't recommend any investor to invest in a BSegwit chain. Even Blockstream(eg. CORE)'s investors are backing off their investment in Blockstream. So that really says something about BSegwit chain's future. Once Blockstream runs dry of investments, what do you think will happen to Bsegwit chain?

BCash's backers are much better funded with extremely deep pockets, not dependent on external investments.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: 25hashcoin on August 18, 2017, 02:53:06 PM
Bitcoin cash can't be the bitcoin because bitcoin cash is not bitcoin, bitcoin cash needs a lot of supporters especially miners, I'm not sure bitcoin cash will exceed bitcoin even though it's been through a long time.



Bitcoin Cash is now more profitable to mine. Let's see what happens.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: Slow death on August 18, 2017, 04:07:42 PM
Bitcoin cash can't be the bitcoin because bitcoin cash is not bitcoin, bitcoin cash needs a lot of supporters especially miners, I'm not sure bitcoin cash will exceed bitcoin even though it's been through a long time.



Bitcoin Cash is now more profitable to mine. Let's see what happens.

With this news Segwit2x and Bitcoin Core Drama Flares Up Community Tension (http://) Will make BCH supporters very happy



BCH is not BTC and it will never be, exist BTC  and BCH


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: hieuho381 on August 18, 2017, 04:48:04 PM
Bitcoin cash can't be the bitcoin because bitcoin cash is not bitcoin, bitcoin cash needs a lot of supporters especially miners, I'm not sure bitcoin cash will exceed bitcoin even though it's been through a long time.
I agree with you . Bitcoin still dominates the Cryptocurrency market because without Bitcoin, BCC would be just rubbish and garbage would not be able to dominate the Cryptocurrency market. I think BCC forever baby of the BTC


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: PedroLinh on August 18, 2017, 04:52:18 PM
Never say never. Bitcoin Cash soon return to the old position


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: Smith13c on August 18, 2017, 04:57:19 PM
Bch can not be BTC. BTC is a wall


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: Sync485 on August 18, 2017, 05:52:17 PM
in the future bitcoincash can be more popular but never can be bitcoin.for example bitcoin is gold, all other coins are paper money.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: The_Dark_Knight on August 19, 2017, 04:19:08 AM
What gives bitcoin the edge over bitcoin cash is very simple, its the developers. Do what you want, but core has the best dev team period, bitcoin cash devs are amateurs in comparison.

This is what it comes down to, and it's also why XT, Classic and Unlimited were widely rejected as well. I think that the Bitcoin community (users, investors, services) are increasingly aware of the tremendous work that Core does, and are increasingly unlikely to follow a fork that Core doesn't support. I'm starting to think that a lot of the NYA backers are going to start defecting, given that Core seems firmly opposed to the November hard fork by the Segwit2x team.
I hope this happens, the bitcoin cash fork was troubling but nothing that bitcoin could not manage, the fork planned for November is a lot more dangerous so if we can avoid that situation then I think it will be better for all of us, the devs, the miners and the user base.

I agree. It would be best for all if we could avoid a significant network split. Bitfury has already shown signs that they are leaning towards pulling out. Unfortunately, though, they are small fish now. Bitmain is the real contender. And major bitcoin services like Bitpay and Coinbase want cheap on-chain fees.

So, if we have big names like Garzik (even though he is crap by bitcoin development standards), combined with majority hashpower via Bitmain and exchanges like Coinbase/payment processors like Bitpay, that's a lot of potential support for a fork. Bitpay has said they will follow majority hashpower, and they will take a lot of merchants/customers with them. Exchanges are even more important in that regard. I do hope we can avoid such a split, but it's probably good to be prepared for such scenarios.
It is a little bit silly but this reminds me of the new coke fiasco, the Coca Cola Company wanted to release the new coke and everyone in the high ranks agreed with it, but the consumers hate it and at the end they won and they got their old coke, it seems we are going to have the same problem, the miners and the big money want something but it seems the user base want something else.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: borishaifa on August 19, 2017, 04:23:42 AM
in the future bitcoincash can be more popular but never can be bitcoin.for example bitcoin is gold, all other coins are paper money.
I wouldn't like such a scenario. And we should forget about all that measures. From this point of view part of the name, I mean "cash" will not work on popularity of this token.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: classicsucks on August 19, 2017, 05:20:23 AM
It is a little bit silly but this reminds me of the new coke fiasco, the Coca Cola Company wanted to release the new coke and everyone in the high ranks agreed with it, but the consumers hate it and at the end they won and they got their old coke, it seems we are going to have the same problem, the miners and the big money want something but it seems the user base want something else.

Bro in the future please don't compare our beautiful technology to sugary seltzer water produced by a multinational corporation that causes diabetes and tooth decay.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: HippiePyro on August 19, 2017, 02:19:52 PM
Lmao, that's hilarious.
Hey when will the block difficulty change on BCH?


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: nogoodcoin on August 19, 2017, 02:31:11 PM
Even with segwit, BlockStreamcoin can only scale to 4.5 tx/sec

Mining cartels will refuse to implement any new scaling proposals for BScoin

Meanwhile the real Bitcoin will have 2000 tx/sec

Blockstream and core devs are working with the US gov to force users off-chain

Big blocks or GTFO
Another day-dreaming supporter of BCC, a simple altcoin of btc clone, that's all for BCC.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: Bowly88 on August 19, 2017, 02:40:29 PM
Even with segwit, BlockStreamcoin can only scale to 4.5 tx/sec

Mining cartels will refuse to implement any new scaling proposals for BScoin

Meanwhile the real Bitcoin will have 2000 tx/sec

Blockstream and core devs are working with the US gov to force users off-chain

Big blocks or GTFO

Nah, I think it cannot be, bitcoin cash is being famouse because they are came from bitcoins and the segwit is just new to us that's why they are getting the attention. But the truth it bitcoins is still the number one and no one can ever beat them not even thouse whp are came from them. It is not that it came from them it doesn't mean that they are going to be like them. I just know that bitcoins have achieve enough and have proven their capabilities enough to trust them and to believe that no one can ever be like them.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: classicsucks on August 19, 2017, 07:41:45 PM
Even with segwit, BlockStreamcoin can only scale to 4.5 tx/sec

Mining cartels will refuse to implement any new scaling proposals for BScoin

Meanwhile the real Bitcoin will have 2000 tx/sec

Blockstream and core devs are working with the US gov to force users off-chain

Big blocks or GTFO
Another day-dreaming supporter of BCC, a simple altcoin of btc clone, that's all for BCC.

Ironic, considering BCC trade volume is higher than BTC's today -> $3 billion!

Also price is $800. Wow


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: Considered on August 19, 2017, 07:55:07 PM
Bitcoin cash is pumping now and will eventually dump, the sheeps are following the pump and will lose their money big time once it dumps.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: redboss on August 19, 2017, 08:00:34 PM
Coindesk just update a new article saying BCC mining is more profitable than BTC


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: borishaifa on August 20, 2017, 03:54:33 AM
Coindesk just update a new article saying BCC mining is more profitable than BTC

Yes, but they are rather careful in predictions... "While it remains to be seen whether bitcoin cash can attract widespread exchange and miner support to develop its own economy, today's evidence suggests it may be on its way to doing so..."


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: Nedkt on August 20, 2017, 04:25:46 AM
Bch can not be BTC. BTC is a wall
Watch how fast that wall gets knocked over if people think they can make more money on the other side.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: FrankNoland on August 20, 2017, 04:34:32 AM
In my opinion, bitcoin cash has been making its way up in the past few days, if this habit continues, then bitcoin cash has a chance to reach the stage bitcoin is in now and the worth. These are just speculations but anything is possible within the cryptocurrency world.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: Alerter on August 20, 2017, 04:43:14 AM
While reading the topic I thought it was going to rename itself. So the next fork might be The Only Bitcoin.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: Hotrod_88 on August 20, 2017, 05:13:03 AM
Even with segwit, BlockStreamcoin can only scale to 4.5 tx/sec

Mining cartels will refuse to implement any new scaling proposals for BScoin

Meanwhile the real Bitcoin will have 2000 tx/sec

Blockstream and core devs are working with the US gov to force users off-chain

Big blocks or GTFO

It doesn't mean that bitcoin cash are came from bitcoins bacuse of the split is they will be the new bitcoins. No one can ever replace the bitcoins because look at their value. It rises more than doubled its price before segwit. How great was that as an investment and as a source of income.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: Bastime on August 20, 2017, 07:30:45 AM
There is more likely to surpass BitcoinCash over Bitcoin for the following reasons:
BitcoinCash would be the next Bitcoin as you can see the graph in a small period of time (Few days after it's launched) the price of the digital currency Bitcoin Cash sustained its upward trajectory and surpassed the $700 mark as of Aug. 18 3 weeks since it's birth.
While BitcoinCash continues to soar it's exchange value higher each week it attracts investors also as it is a new promising Crypto Currency recycling up to this moment.
Bitcoin Cash one of the latest Digital Currency but it is already placed as the second high value as next to the mother Bitcoin.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: Ruggito on August 20, 2017, 08:14:24 AM
There is more likely to surpass BitcoinCash over Bitcoin for the following reasons:
BitcoinCash would be the next Bitcoin as you can see the graph in a small period of time (Few days after it's launched) the price of the digital currency Bitcoin Cash sustained its upward trajectory and surpassed the $700 mark as of Aug. 18 3 weeks since it's birth.
While BitcoinCash continues to soar it's exchange value higher each week it attracts investors also as it is a new promising Crypto Currency recycling up to this moment.
Bitcoin Cash one of the latest Digital Currency but it is already placed as the second high value as next to the mother Bitcoin.

A high market cap in the short term period doesn't mean nothing. Let's wait and see.

By the way, this article (dated one month ago)  can explore one of the possible "full pictures" http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-07-28/bitcoin-civil-war-over

I'm not a fan of the cospiracy theories, but I admit that it could have some nice hints...


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: speaktome on August 20, 2017, 11:07:56 PM
In my opinion, bitcoin cash has been making its way up in the past few days, if this habit continues, then bitcoin cash has a chance to reach the stage bitcoin is in now and the worth. These are just speculations but anything is possible within the cryptocurrency world.
The possibility exists but is very remote,do not forget that one has much more acceptance than the other,until now the value has been maintained but for how long,BCH is too volatile still and from one moment to another may present a sudden fall,on the other side is BTC which dont show signs of price weakness.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: Jully Bells on August 21, 2017, 12:38:19 AM
This is a stupid thought BTC and EB are two different coin altogether


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: Doamader on August 22, 2017, 04:16:21 AM
It wont happen, even looking a great pump, it has nothing to offer to bitcoin at all, the size of block should grow soo no more spam attack over the network. I do see bch as altcoin wich is being used to pump and dump, several people dreaming into it replace bitcoin, but i doubt it will happen at all, but i might be wrong.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: nrvasquez on August 22, 2017, 04:29:53 AM
Really? I do not think so, BCH is just a new young coin. We can wait for them to be dimmed. Lots of coins that can rival her in my eyes. I even think BCH is still losing when compared with ethereum or litecoin as the first coin out.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: HardFireMiner on August 22, 2017, 04:50:38 AM
Really? I do not think so, BCH is just a new young coin. We can wait for them to be dimmed. Lots of coins that can rival her in my eyes. I even think BCH is still losing when compared with ethereum or litecoin as the first coin out.

Ethereum itself is not a coin so your arguments are not valid, in fact, you did not give any argument.

Let me give you one, for the sake of a debate - BCH now for several days is more profitable to mine, than Bitcoin, if >10% of the BTC's hashing power switches, the difficulty will make the block generation slower, it will >15 days for it to adjust.

The question is, how much more hash power will switch when this happens?

Ethereum is a shitcoin, premined, buggy, hacked and p & d, it is highly centralized. You cannot compare this with BCH.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: HardFireMiner on August 22, 2017, 04:53:31 AM
The Bitcoin Cash blockchain is currently operating at 7% of the original chain's difficulty.


The original chain has grown 2.59GB more than the Bitcoin Cash blockchain.


It is currently 78.2% more profitable to mine on the Bitcoin Cash blockchain.

https://cash.coin.dance/blocks


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: HatakeKakashi on August 22, 2017, 04:55:37 AM
Bitcoin is still king and for sure bitcoin become more powerful and stronger everyear and the price for sure continue to increase.  Bitcoincash is part only of bitcon and I dont think become bitcoincash become bitcoin. I have bitcoincash in my wallet and I hope it will increase so  I can make a lot of profit in the future. I think if bitcoin price increase the bitcoincash also increase because the son of of bitcoin is bitcoincash.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: classicsucks on August 22, 2017, 11:14:08 PM
BTC will be useless for on-chain transactions for the next few days, judging by the size of the mempool backlog.

BCC just got another mobile wallet - btc.com's wallet now supports BOTH BTC and BCC!


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: ViolaDavis on August 23, 2017, 07:36:26 AM
That's impossible . This is a stupid thought


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: HardFireMiner on August 23, 2017, 07:40:28 AM
20 minutes ago, to pay for something, 0.15 BTC, the fee was 0.015 for regular transaction. 10%.

It's not only inconvenient, easier to just pay with the credit/debit card...

Lets wait for October.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: sdcloud on August 23, 2017, 01:15:42 PM
Meanwhile, the cost of BCH decreases.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: wellsontheja on August 23, 2017, 02:08:28 PM
I like bitcoin cash and actually i get profit from bch but bitcoin cash will never be the bitcoin because still much people can trust bitcoin cash and bitcoin cash is still new coin but yeah it's not make the percentage be 0% but the percentage is very low i think it's will very very hard for bch to be bitcoin even to reach 20.000.000 idr it's very hard for bch


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: mvidetto on August 23, 2017, 03:07:42 PM
BCH is a young coin and there will as many coins as this one in a few weeks or months. Some currencies will be probably disappeared or replaced by BCH, as a result it will increase its price and value in the crypto market. Just a suggestion.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: gabmen on August 23, 2017, 04:12:46 PM
Bcc would never be beyond an altcoin behind regular leaders like etherium. I don't think its going to go to the dirt but it won't have much sucess as well because it doesn't have that many followers. Probably not yet right now, but it will never catch up to btc


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: x86Daddy on August 23, 2017, 04:25:47 PM
 ;D
What we need in Bitcoin. Fast confirm and cheap fee.. :)) what miner need... they need old bitcoin. :/ but future is bitcoin cash... Why???? People buy bitcoin because it's first crypto. nothing else.. when crypto market grow up. many good coin will be born.. They fast, they anomynous, they have low fee... who will use bitcoin anymore???? bitcoin miner will corrupt. I think they must think about it. And soon we will move to bcc. In my opinion I still like other tech coin than bitcoin. But hope bitcoin core will have many plan to grow up bitcoin


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: Barbarian on August 23, 2017, 09:23:47 PM
If Bitcoin cash was gonna take over the market share it had to happen in a more even way right after the split.

I think they have lost there opportunity now
They never had any chance, bitcoin cash is just an altcoin and not a very good one, if bitcoin cash did not had bitcoin on its name no one will look at this coin for a single second and yet there is in one of the top places in market cap but I think that is not going to last for long.


They should change its name from bitcoincash to bitcoinshit because it's literally a shit from bitcoin. It will just be treated as trash for some few months.
I agree but there is nothing we can do at the moment, the speculators are probably making a fortune, and the miners are probably making some money on it if that was not the case then they will not mine that coin, but I think this cannot las for long since there is not a single use for bitcoin cash.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: 25hashcoin on August 23, 2017, 09:40:25 PM
Flippening starting in 24 hours. Get ready.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: JesusCryptos on August 23, 2017, 10:54:12 PM
These days BTC and BCC are playing ping pong stealing hashpower to each others. Miners move their machines to the chain which makes them more money. So the one which will make more money to miners will be the winner. We will discover which at some point.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: CyNotes on August 24, 2017, 12:53:57 AM

Big blocks, miners and people with huge amount of storage will run the nodes, they will control everything. Bitcoin is supposed to be decentralized. You didn't even mention Lightning Network that will help Bitcoin improve scalability.
Bitcoin decentralized because of its own ability and strength among others.

Bitcoin Cash will continue falling until completely dead. It might take months or years or decades, but rest assured it will die with the rest and Bitcoin will survive.
Yes, it was definitely true will completely dead until the world doesn't use it anymore. Just take whatever tokens you want then it convert it. I assure that it will give you a nice benefits of holding it.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: Norway on August 25, 2017, 04:20:54 PM
if this write up https://medium.com/@shludvigsen/traders-guide-to-bitcoin-cash-bitcoin-segwit-819933694b34 is correct, then one has to buy some BCH and hold.

Very interesting article, but I doubt BC will ever see another EDA scenario like we saw already.

I wrote that article, and I am happy you found it interesting. We have seen the EDA kick in several times now, and it will not stop until 1 Bitcoin Cash is worth more than 1 Bitcoin Segwit.


Title: Re: bitcoin
Post by: Desscount on August 25, 2017, 04:26:05 PM
bitcoin



This is ridiculous lol, maybe OP is practicing how to type, yes I think so.

Or maybe something else? But I am sure he is very beginner to be confused to write something, yes he is confused I think.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: 2double0 on August 25, 2017, 04:28:15 PM
if this write up https://medium.com/@shludvigsen/traders-guide-to-bitcoin-cash-bitcoin-segwit-819933694b34 is correct, then one has to buy some BCH and hold.

Very interesting article, but I doubt BC will ever see another EDA scenario like we saw already.

I wrote that article, and I am happy you found it interesting. We have seen the EDA kick in several times now, and it will not stop until 1 Bitcoin Cash is worth more than 1 Bitcoin Segwit.

I can't do anything reading that but laugh the hell out. Initially fee, then block sizes, then compression of transactions and now difficulty adjustments.
Why are people trying to trim everything here and not seeing what's getting increased? Do you think it will be easy for those who will install BCH's wallets on their PCs to keep up the space with its number of total blocks being mined? Just think that if it mines 6 blocks of 8 MB size each an hour (if it ever does), that would take 48 MB of space per hour, 1152 MB per day, 8064 MB per week and 419328 MBs per year. Can you afford?


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: Norway on August 25, 2017, 05:14:01 PM
if this write up https://medium.com/@shludvigsen/traders-guide-to-bitcoin-cash-bitcoin-segwit-819933694b34 is correct, then one has to buy some BCH and hold.

Very interesting article, but I doubt BC will ever see another EDA scenario like we saw already.

I wrote that article, and I am happy you found it interesting. We have seen the EDA kick in several times now, and it will not stop until 1 Bitcoin Cash is worth more than 1 Bitcoin Segwit.

I can't do anything reading that but laugh the hell out. Initially fee, then block sizes, then compression of transactions and now difficulty adjustments.
Why are people trying to trim everything here and not seeing what's getting increased? Do you think it will be easy for those who will install BCH's wallets on their PCs to keep up the space with its number of total blocks being mined? Just think that if it mines 6 blocks of 8 MB size each an hour (if it ever does), that would take 48 MB of space per hour, 1152 MB per day, 8064 MB per week and 419328 MBs per year. Can you afford?

When we have 8 MB blocks on average, the max blocksize limit will probably be a lot higher. The computers faster, broad band wider, storage cheaper etc.

You don't have to run a non-mining node to use bitcoin. Only 1 in 1000 do that today. And you don't have to run a node to mine either. Just use a pool like normal miners do.

It's only pools and maybe some businesses that have to run nodes. SPV is good enough for the rest. It's the miners/pools that enforce the rules on bitcoin, and they get paid to do it. If you are not mining, all you can do is observe with a full node. You may try to sybil attack, but it's useless because miners are very well connected between them.

If you don't trust miners to do this job right while they are incentivized to be honest, you should get out of bitcoin ASAP or read the whitepaper one more time, slowly.


Title: Re: bitcoin
Post by: mandor on August 25, 2017, 05:57:20 PM
OP make thread only with tilte bitcoin, LOL hahaha i think this newbie account talking bullshit.  ;D
I do not know what the people are talking about here. whether their talks are related to OP titles or not.


Title: Re: bitcoin
Post by: Dobrodav on August 26, 2017, 01:46:50 PM
I agree that big blocks and miners will controls this market, you just invest and hope it's grow well.  >:(


Title: Re: bitcoin
Post by: konco_kenthel on August 26, 2017, 02:43:14 PM
if there is no bch how later its users can increase revenue and take time to find a replacement that has comparable quality.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: Barbarian on August 31, 2017, 05:27:52 AM
Really? I do not think so, BCH is just a new young coin. We can wait for them to be dimmed. Lots of coins that can rival her in my eyes. I even think BCH is still losing when compared with ethereum or litecoin as the first coin out.
BCH is nothing, people are exited with this new toy and that is why such a huge market cap but after some time passes then people are going to forget about this coin and we are going to go back to normal, there are many coins that are way better than BCH and that is going to be shown in the next months.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Cash will be THE Bitcoin
Post by: dewanaga on August 31, 2017, 05:54:30 AM
Really? I do not think so, BCH is just a new young coin. We can wait for them to be dimmed. Lots of coins that can rival her in my eyes. I even think BCH is still losing when compared with ethereum or litecoin as the first coin out.
BCH is nothing, people are exited with this new toy and that is why such a huge market cap but after some time passes then people are going to forget about this coin and we are going to go back to normal, there are many coins that are way better than BCH and that is going to be shown in the next months.
haha, chances are bch just for a while because bch can be free,  :)
few months maybe maybe bch will fade, we'll see  :)


Title: Re: bitcoin
Post by: Doamader on August 31, 2017, 11:57:18 PM
Bch hasnt damaged bitcoin, but it had becamed an profitable option to mine besides bitcoin, soo even being an altcoin it had already a surprise to the most of them since no one expected to see it having more daily volume then bitcoin at all, neither more hash. Beside those it shows that bigger blocks can handle the blockchain better and wont allow anymore spam attack has had happened more then twice on the last year, raising the fees to ridicolous values.