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Title: Bitcoin ABC wallet stole my BTC ! (or maybe not!!!)
Post by: thelema93 on August 12, 2017, 09:58:04 AM
WTF?!!!

I had an old Bitcoin core wallet.dat file that had some BTC on it,
So I decided to get the BCC from it by opening it up using Bitcoin ABC wallet
There is was - my BCC. So I sent it to Kraken to sell it.
Now when I load up the wallet.dat in Bitcoin Core - the BTC has vanished!!!???

It has a transaction saying I sent BTC to the same address I sent the BCC too - but wtf? I didn't do that
I sent BCC to that address using ABC wallet.
So why the F***K has my BTC gone?

I am not an idiot - I have been using bitcoin for years. I dont understand why it has made a transaction on the BTC chain? when i sent BCC?
Can someone explain what I did wrong?

Is Bitcoin ABC wallet a scam?

(edit) - I am guessing that the ABC wallet has corrupted my local Blockchain - do i need to delete my local blockchain and start downloading it again now?!!!


Title: Re: Bitcoin ABC wallet stole my BTC !
Post by: escrow.ms on August 12, 2017, 10:08:17 AM
Can you post transaction ID of BTC and BCC and did you received your BCC on kraken.


Title: Re: Bitcoin ABC wallet stole my BTC !
Post by: escrow.ms on August 12, 2017, 10:10:32 AM
 

(edit) - I am guessing that the ABC wallet has corrupted my local Blockchain - do i need to delete my local blockchain and start downloading it again now?!!!

Yes, that might be possible, I think you should import private keys in a different wallet and check your bitcoin balance. You can use blockchain.info or mycellium for android.


Title: Re: Bitcoin ABC wallet stole my BTC !
Post by: thelema93 on August 12, 2017, 10:20:34 AM
Can you post transaction ID of BTC and BCC and did you received your BCC on kraken.

hmmm... the txID is not showing on either chain yet... maybe just a bit slow.

b13bc2f589a9b374762e83aa661fb34b757a49cfb978af78d642f7eddf107131

my BTC balance is still showing on blockchain.info so that's a relief.
my local blockchain is still 29 hours behind.


Title: Re: Bitcoin ABC wallet stole my BTC !
Post by: xSkyer on August 12, 2017, 10:25:20 AM
my BTC balance is still showing on blockchain.info so that's a relief.
my local blockchain is still 29 hours behind.


Many people were actually saying that you should move your BTC to a different address before you spend your BCH. Fortunately your money is safe. Be more careful next time.


Title: Re: Bitcoin ABC wallet stole my BTC !
Post by: escrow.ms on August 12, 2017, 10:35:39 AM
my BTC balance is still showing on blockchain.info so that's a relief.
my local blockchain is still 29 hours behind.


Many people were actually saying that you should move your BTC to a different address before you spend your BCH. Fortunately your money is safe. Be more careful next time.
my BTC balance is still showing on blockchain.info so that's a relief.
my local blockchain is still 29 hours behind.


Many people were actually saying that you should move your BTC to a different address before you spend your BCH. Fortunately your money is safe. Be more careful next time.

Yes because bitcoin ABC uses same directory as bitcoin core.


Title: Re: Bitcoin ABC wallet stole my BTC !
Post by: thelema93 on August 12, 2017, 10:37:11 AM
my BTC balance is still showing on blockchain.info so that's a relief.
my local blockchain is still 29 hours behind.


Many people were actually saying that you should move your BTC to a different address before you spend your BCH. Fortunately your money is safe. Be more careful next time.

I thought if you moved your BTC to a new address then you wouldn't have any BCH anymore because it would be post-split ? I thought this was a very careful way of doing it!


Title: Re: Bitcoin ABC wallet stole my BTC !
Post by: escrow.ms on August 12, 2017, 10:44:58 AM
my BTC balance is still showing on blockchain.info so that's a relief.
my local blockchain is still 29 hours behind.


Many people were actually saying that you should move your BTC to a different address before you spend your BCH. Fortunately your money is safe. Be more careful next time.

I thought if you moved your BTC to a new address then you wouldn't have any BCH anymore because it would be post-split ? I thought this was a very careful way of doing it!
No, You just needed to store bitcoins in your wallet till 1st aug, after that you can spend your bitcoins and still have BCC on that same empty wallet.


Title: Re: Bitcoin ABC wallet stole my BTC !
Post by: thelema93 on August 12, 2017, 10:55:09 AM
my BTC balance is still showing on blockchain.info so that's a relief.
my local blockchain is still 29 hours behind.


Many people were actually saying that you should move your BTC to a different address before you spend your BCH. Fortunately your money is safe. Be more careful next time.

I thought if you moved your BTC to a new address then you wouldn't have any BCH anymore because it would be post-split ? I thought this was a very careful way of doing it!
No, You just needed to store bitcoins in your wallet till 1st aug, after that you can spend your bitcoins and still have BCC on that same empty wallet.

That's what I did.
Sorry I think I worded that a bit weirdly... I meant:
"I thought if you moved your BTC to a new address then you wouldn't have any BCH anymore because it would be post-split ? I thought that keeping my Bitcoin core wallet.dat unchanged and then opening it using Bitcoin ABC to spend the BCC was a very careful way of doing it!"


Title: Re: Bitcoin ABC wallet stole my BTC !
Post by: thelema93 on August 12, 2017, 10:56:11 AM
i sent the BCC an hour ago and it's still not confirmed? Is the BCC chain that slow?

b13bc2f589a9b374762e83aa661fb34b757a49cfb978af78d642f7eddf107131



Title: Re: Bitcoin ABC wallet stole my BTC !
Post by: xSkyer on August 12, 2017, 11:01:55 AM
i sent the BCC an hour ago and it's still not confirmed? Is the BCC chain that slow?

b13bc2f589a9b374762e83aa661fb34b757a49cfb978af78d642f7eddf107131



Yes, it is far more slower than BTC and you need to wait for a few confirmations depending on exchange.


Title: Re: Bitcoin ABC wallet stole my BTC !
Post by: BTCLovingDude on August 12, 2017, 11:03:44 AM
you probably have not sent the transaction at all because it can not be found on either chains.
https://blockchair.com/search?q=b13bc2f589a9b374762e83aa661fb34b757a49cfb978af78d642f7eddf107131
are you connected to any BCH nodes?

and according to this site: https://cash.coin.dance/blocks last block was 3 minutes ago.


Title: Re: Bitcoin ABC wallet stole my BTC !
Post by: xSkyer on August 12, 2017, 11:06:28 AM
you probably have not sent the transaction at all because it can not be found on either chains.
https://blockchair.com/search?q=b13bc2f589a9b374762e83aa661fb34b757a49cfb978af78d642f7eddf107131
are you connected to any BCH nodes?

and according to this site: https://cash.coin.dance/blocks last block was 3 minutes ago.

Has the BCH difficulty already altered to the hash rate? It was definitely slower last time I checked it.


Title: Re: Bitcoin ABC wallet stole my BTC !
Post by: cryptocortex on August 12, 2017, 11:07:26 AM
If the information is legit, sorry for your loss. Next time try using virtual machines to use alternative clients.


Title: Re: Bitcoin ABC wallet stole my BTC !
Post by: thelema93 on August 12, 2017, 11:10:32 AM
you probably have not sent the transaction at all because it can not be found on either chains.
https://blockchair.com/search?q=b13bc2f589a9b374762e83aa661fb34b757a49cfb978af78d642f7eddf107131
are you connected to any BCH nodes?

and according to this site: https://cash.coin.dance/blocks last block was 3 minutes ago.

Oh yeah I think so....

"Status: 0/unconfirmed, in memory pool"

Does that mean it hasn't been broadcast yet?


Title: Re: Bitcoin ABC wallet stole my BTC !
Post by: BTCLovingDude on August 12, 2017, 11:11:51 AM
you probably have not sent the transaction at all because it can not be found on either chains.
https://blockchair.com/search?q=b13bc2f589a9b374762e83aa661fb34b757a49cfb978af78d642f7eddf107131
are you connected to any BCH nodes?

and according to this site: https://cash.coin.dance/blocks last block was 3 minutes ago.

Has the BCH difficulty already altered to the hash rate? It was definitely slower last time I checked it.

it certainly is a lot faster than the first days but it is still very slow. for example according to that link i posted, there has been only 27 blocks in the past 10 hours. and in normal circumstances there should have been 60 blocks instead (1 every 10 minutes on average).

which means blocks are still being found at about half speed.
and the more interesting point is that they are nearly empty blocks!
27

Oh yeah I think so....

"Status: 0/unconfirmed, in memory pool"

Does that mean it hasn't been broadcast yet?
try sending it again. (if you are sure you are sending to the correct address of course).


Title: Re: Bitcoin ABC wallet stole my BTC ! (or maybe not!!!)
Post by: thelema93 on August 12, 2017, 12:59:47 PM
in case anyone else has the same problem.....

I realised that Bitcoin ABC was not updating properly - probably because it got confused with having the wrong blockchain (from Bitcoin Core)
It is accessing the same Blockchain directory as Core.
So I think i need to re-index it.
on OSX you do this:

/Applications/Bitcoin\ ABC\ 2.app/Contents/MacOS/Bitcoin-Qt -reindex

and I guess after that's finished and I want to use Bitcoin core again, I'll need to reindex my blockchain again using bitcoin core.

[edit]

A simpler solution is to just copy the whole Bitcoin directory (in Library > Application Support ) that contains the blockchain.
rename it to something else like 'Bitcoin Core original'
then after you launch Bitcoin ABC and you've successfully sold your useless fake Bitcoins (BCC) then you can delete the whole ABC crap and rename the
'Bitcoin Core original' directory back to 'Bitcoin' and carry on, have a cup of tea and pretend the whole Bitcoin Cash fiasco never happened.