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I decided to stop trading, i tryed for the last 3 month with up and down of gains and losses, turning  always on the initial balance.

So from now i'll select some projects i like and i think they'll be huge, to keep in the pocket, whatever happens  :D here is my list:

-QRL
-WAGER
-BYTOM
-SHIFT
-STOX
-SONM
-QTUM
-XEL
-MNE

I will by in the next week 0xproject and TokenLab(expanse)
i'll fill my bag of verge when will hit the bottom
i'll definitely buy aeternity as soon as i could find it in other exchange( now i't just on HitBTC)
i sold all my nav cause it seems too stagnat even though I like it a lot


I would like to read your tought about my portfolio, if you have suggestion perhaps of a technical nature rather than pure sympathy

Investment has a very big risk, if we choose the wrong project then we lose. Different from trading, if we are good at seeing the market and good predictions then we will win.
But all there are advantages and disadvantages of each

Trading is easy when market is in bullish mode, but in last 2 months alts get kicked in the butt pretty hard, and trading wasn't easy anymore. Crypto is unpredictable so that is why you have a good idea, invest in project you have good feelings on, and then be patient and HODL then a long time and you will be VERY happy. 

Both trading and investing are risky however if you are not profitable in trading why not try long term and just leave the coins you traded with, not unless if you really really need the money and you have to withdraw them weekly or monthly. Investing is also the same thing but much riskier especially if you have invested in some fake coins then chances are zero or something.

yes its is.it is very difficult to predict the market movements and BTC in top of the level.then i also decided to invest some  ICO.but there is risk for that.
very difficult to select a good ICO. want to make a good research of that project

Trading, at least short-term, is vastly more difficult than investing (for humans). Short-term movements are essentially unpredictable for the vast majority of people. Investing on the other hand, takes quite some effort with regard to due diligence, but that's something that simply requires some time spent researching. The most difficult aspect of investing is balancing a portfolio, which needs a way to at least qualitatively asses risk.


Either way, I would add AiCoin to the list. Poised to be a very stable and successful coin that avoids almost all of the risks of short-term trading, while reaping its profits regardless, while at the same time being in a position for massive gains due to investments in ICOs and other Machine Learning or Blockchain related start-ups.

You made a nice move, sir. Honestly there is no other safest strategy in cryptocurrency than buying and holding because yes - trading may give you a very promising profit, however, you cannot really tell if your coin would be stagnant too soon or worse, dumped.

I have another strategy to tell you... why don't you lend your bitcoins? small satoshis could mean a lot when long term.

Because there's a high default rate. There are a few exceptions, but if everybody jumps on them they will become unprofitable for everyone and disappear.

Lending business is just a risky business in my own opinion and i would rather choose up on diversifying on other altcoin in the market its still risky but much better since i do have the access and controls of those coins unlike on lending bitcoin to others you wont really know if they would repay up or not and thats the risk and still pure gambling but its up to you if you would decide to hug the risk. Back to the portfolio of op i would say its a good choice of sets of altcoin out there.

I think investing is more risky than trading, you think like that because you probably have no experience in trading, I see and heard many people making lots of money in trading.

How about both?
Trading is something fun I do thru the day but I also have some good investments which I am holding for the long term.

Each and every investment has its own risk and if you could find a good project then there is nothing wrong in investing in it as the possibility to make huge profits are immense ,but before any investment make sure you go through their projects their white paper and the team members and their vision about the project and if it is unique ,the profit will be pretty handy if you could hold till the entire development process is completed.

I am the holder for 6 months . I'll keep until the end of the year, at least . ICN,STOX,SONM and 1ST .

I did prefer to invest half of my fund and another half of them for trading
But I believe to make the best profit from investment is hold it as long as possible.

Holding bitcoin for a long time certainly has a chance to benefit from bitcoin, and this is an investment that has less risk of loss.

You'd still be trading if you were doing this over short term profit. Trading is part of investment afterall, nothing to worry about the name on its own in my opinion.

Investing creates better gains for well developed platforms and gains I believe. But trading is better for speculative coins or assets.

I will definitely hold Bitcoin no matter what happens.  ::)

No you can't, this is not as easy as it is written, actually you are not selling and buying with your own free will, different conditions may persuade you to sell your bitcoins in the future.

Definitely need to add Rads to that portfolio:

https://www.tradingview.com/chart/RADSBTC/IJoCFGYw-RADS-The-Sleeping-Giant/

https://i.imgur.com/vuF4xsk.png

But we have to be careful in choosing ico, do research on this project, so we are not wrong in choosing ico.

Of course every investor should choose and analyze ICO bfeore investing. Dont get fooled by number of investors or raised funds on token sale pages of projects because they can change details on site to attract new investors

NAV is not good for the long term holders, I agree with you about some of rouy list but not for sure about the sonm project. The dev just like a kid. The team can't develop the project properly.

Radium looks promising for investment, coz it has staking possibility, allowing you to get some passive income. I'm joining now.

i've sold xel and bought radium and filled with a bit more SONM

thanks for the advice

there's two sides to every coin man, everyone has their own plan
some say holding is stupid, others say daytrading or swing trading is just losses

truth is both are good strategies and can make an individual a lot of money provided the strategy fits their personality.
so, choose for yourself i say

I like RADS for simple staking process, big potential and still low marketcap.

If it would rocket jump as DCR early this year I will definitely join in

Investors began to hold BTC. So artvinli the holders is reduced.

Wagger is a good investment, but it needs to be a longer term one as people start to use the product. Their tokens will be burned as people place their wagers so it will definitely rise in time

SONM has a very nice project, I love these supercomputing blockchains. It's under ICO price and still didn't hit major exchanges, definitely a suggested buy.

Thanks for introducing RADS, I've found out it as quite intresting investment idea similar to the bank deposit with 35% annual. It's great!

This one is rather less risk and a bit safer. If you cannot handle the heat over short term trading then you have two options. You may further enhance your trading skills so that next time you will be more adept in handling it or you may quit from it and shift to another way of earning that you think you are more comfortable with. It seems you have chosen the second option.

In terms of btc investment is surely better than trading. Yet the same doesn't hold for all other coins. Perhaps ltc and eth should be stored as well, but other coins are better to be used to buy low and sell high IMO. Trading is also better overall, because at least you get some income out of it, whether when you hold the coins you don't feel like selling them and may die without making any use of what you once had. I live in a post-Soviet country and there are many stories of old people who had once money on which they could buy flats but they kept holding until one day it all became worthless. I guess that's what we might end up with if we do investment.

Theres an disadvantage on holding bitcoin and trading with it. When we do speak first about on hodling the coins wont really circulate throughout the chain and progress might somehow be lessen up compared on being traded up. This is why i do make tradings than on holding off my coins. Trading can still be considered as an investment since you do risk your money on a certain coin in able to make money when prices do rise up.

Trading is more risky than investing acually. You could lose 50% or more from your balance if you have bought at wrong time (i.e when teh price reached their peak). Different with trading, investing took months or years before you can get profit but it's worth to try and once you have invested in right altcoin, you will be get huge profit from that (I.e invested on Bitcoin when the price still below than $250 and still holding it until now)

Risk in trading always proportional to profit achieved. What we need is, mature analysis and searching for adequate information as our reference to make decisions. So, even in bad conditions, losses we suffer are not too great, and i'm sure our trading scale will have good profit.

Investing and trading are two very different methods of attempting to profit in the crypto markets. The goal of investing is to gradually build wealth over an extended period, trading is for short term gains. Both have their upsides, Good list of coins in the OP.

I do think ICN is a good long term hold. I'm going to be watching it closely however, I don't like their main portfolio very much.

In my opinion, SONM is the best current coin for you to buy and hold.
The current price is very low compared to the ICO price.
Some news says there will be a rise in the price of SONM in the near future.
Good luck!

In times like this, when the crypto world is going crazy with errativ coin values, both trading and investing is a risk. Though this is not a high time to invest in any coin since its future is quite uncertain, investing in these coins is the safest way to have a profit. Though this still requires a high level of observation so you'll know when to let go and how long to hold on to that coin.

Trading is good too. by analyzing the coins and Understanding what will happen at price in "Next Day"
or "Someday" . you can control your coin and earn in a smart way. but it is Risky.
Its a good Idea to invest even you earn a little amount.

correct with bitcoin bullish movements both have risk but if you have a lots of time to research and look deeper with some investment
which can possibly bring huge earnings well i think its quite good than doing trading which is really difficult to anticipate the movement
of certain project.

I think it's a good strategy. Day trading is stressful, time-consuming and expensive, because much money is lost on exchange fees. So investing for a long-term strategy is better in my opinion. But we need to pick good project, with serious devs and clear roadmaps.
I also suggest to not keep large amount of money on exchange, but on desktop wallets. This for security reasons.

I agree with you. everything is explained in a beautiful language. Thank you. it's a good time to invest in. it's no longer profitable for buy and sell. opportunities there is the possibility of hijacking. :)

This is serious decision we all have to make at some point. They both have some risks that's right but if you want to start investing you need to be very careful and picky. I don't know how much you have but if i were you i'd not go all in to investing. Alt trading can still be very profitable if you read the market well.

Even BTC trading can be very profitable if you can read the market well, but it is a very consuming time task.

I prefer invest mid or long term, so the volatility of the price will not affect my mood significantly too much {it DID affect, indeed}.

Nice post about investment:
RADS was mentioned here, if anybody is interested in POS coins and passive income in crypto: https://medium.com/@JiuCrypto/thinking-out-loud-about-pos-coins-and-passive-income-in-crypto-101e6735b651

From your list I like qtum, stox, bytom, xel and project 0x, Part of the remaining I do not know

Hmm, need to learn about tokenlabs, thanks for the tip. I agree that investing is much better that trading in most cases (unless you're a pro with super good intuition  :D )

trading is a good option is the market is bullish, but since august 1 all altcoin markets are in red. So i recommend you to stop trading right now and buy those who are cheap, once that alts will be green again you will start making good profit from it.
I recommend buying Waves, Ark and Shift for a short term (about 2 or 3 months from now)

trading is just gamble for altcoins. but investing is very good option for long term. no stress and guaranteed money.

0x was definitely my best investment ever!

hope the same with tokenlab and cindicator  ;D

Investing for me is very risky, if you choose wrong then you will lose big. as well as trading, have the same risk. But I hope you already have a solution to solve the problem. And make no mistake in choosing the project.

Next month will be the best for trading because almost all altcoin start pumpimg now .. jump to trading NoW  ;D

For most investors, investing is almost always better

There's no bad thing on investment but you should now well on where you will go and what coins are you investing with, but much better if we have two choices or shall we say have many option so that we can even earn more with it and trading is one of the most good option to anybody where we can speculate to earn if we do some good wiser and educated trades on the coins listed on good exchange.

I don't know if investing in small altcoins could be really profitable. Because, I mean, you are not just pointing in a good profit, but you are also investing in a project and in a technology itself.

Look for example btc: if you buy it for "investing" you are not only spending your money in a short time (I think know it's a good time to buy = minimum level), but also in a "long" time (I think btc price will growth because this tech. it's "great")...

I don't think a "double" bet in the same trade worth the effort, with altcoins. But I hope to wrong (for your profit :D )!

I think I need to maintain a balance between trading, long-term investments and ICO

and also staking and masternode, review here - https://medium.com/@JiuCrypto/thinking-out-loud-about-pos-coins-and-passive-income-in-crypto-101e6735b651

What is that list, absolutely cringe (a few picks aside). How does your investing strategy exclude XMR and NEO?