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Title: i7 mining?
Post by: pikatju on August 14, 2017, 06:05:38 AM
Is there any coin worth mining with an i7-7700?
I looked into Monero, but it doesn't seem profitable. I am mining SIGT with 2xGPU, but I thought I might aswell put my CPU to use when I'm not using it.

Cheers,
pika


Title: Re: i7 mining?
Post by: Undefined31415 on August 14, 2017, 06:16:33 AM
If your primary goal is profit, don't expect to make much, if anything (depending on your electricity rate and if you're willing to shorten the life of your hardware).

You could try NiceHash to run a variety of benchmarks to see about how well your i7 performs on various algorithms. The benchmarks are generally good guidelines, although NiceHash sometimes skips out on mining software that could perform better. (For example, EWBF's Zcash miner gave me significantly better results than whatever NiceHash has for CUDA devices mining Zcash.) I would definitely not recommend actually using NiceHash for what you're trying to do, though. Only using a CPU would mean you'd have quite a long time before you reached the minimum payout threshold that they require.

I'd stick with GPU mining, but it's your hardware.



Title: Re: i7 mining?
Post by: pikatju on August 14, 2017, 06:20:52 AM
If your primary goal is profit, don't expect to make much, if anything (depending on your electricity rate and if you're willing to shorten the life of your hardware).

You could try NiceHash to run a variety of benchmarks to see about how well your i7 performs on various algorithms. The benchmarks are generally good guidelines, although NiceHash sometimes skips out on mining software that could perform better. (For example, EWBF's Zcash miner gave me significantly better results than whatever NiceHash has for CUDA devices mining Zcash.) I would definitely not recommend actually using NiceHash for what you're trying to do, though. Only using a CPU would mean you'd have quite a long time before you reached the minimum payout threshold that they require.

I'd stick with GPU mining, but it's your hardware.



Ok thanks for the advice. Perhaps I will just forget about it. Better to have a working CPU for a long time since the profits are so small.
GPU is better cuz they earn their cost back faster and is easier to replace.


Title: Re: i7 mining?
Post by: BitcoinSupremo on August 14, 2017, 06:34:40 AM
If your primary goal is profit, don't expect to make much, if anything (depending on your electricity rate and if you're willing to shorten the life of your hardware).

You could try NiceHash to run a variety of benchmarks to see about how well your i7 performs on various algorithms. The benchmarks are generally good guidelines, although NiceHash sometimes skips out on mining software that could perform better. (For example, EWBF's Zcash miner gave me significantly better results than whatever NiceHash has for CUDA devices mining Zcash.) I would definitely not recommend actually using NiceHash for what you're trying to do, though. Only using a CPU would mean you'd have quite a long time before you reached the minimum payout threshold that they require.

I'd stick with GPU mining, but it's your hardware.



Ok thanks for the advice. Perhaps I will just forget about it. Better to have a working CPU for a long time since the profits are so small.
GPU is better cuz they earn their cost back faster and is easier to replace.

Even in GPU nowadays there is a risk you will not ROI or make their cost faster as their performance has decreased a lot. Now the ROI for one card has gone from 2.5 -6 months was a few months ago to 11-13 months ROI so during this time the card may become faulty.


Title: Re: i7 mining?
Post by: civilufo on August 14, 2017, 06:48:24 AM
It is hard to make profit with low ROI now. But if you do not want to let you mining rig's CPU idle. Then you can use it to mine some potential coins to keep, which you think the coin had future.


Title: Re: i7 mining?
Post by: pikatju on August 14, 2017, 08:34:09 AM
It is hard to make profit with low ROI now. But if you do not want to let you mining rig's CPU idle. Then you can use it to mine some potential coins to keep, which you think the coin had future.

Any small coin you thinking about? I don't really know the CPU coins available.


Title: Re: i7 mining?
Post by: eckmar on August 14, 2017, 12:23:48 PM
It is hard to make profit with low ROI now. But if you do not want to let you mining rig's CPU idle. Then you can use it to mine some potential coins to keep, which you think the coin had future.

Any small coin you thinking about? I don't really know the CPU coins available.

You have to search it yourself. It's not like there is recommendation for coin. What your goal is to look trough some coins that can be mined with CPU, chose one that you think will have price increase in future and mine it, sell later for profit. Otherwise you won't be seeing much money.


Title: Re: i7 mining?
Post by: civilufo on August 14, 2017, 03:08:06 PM
It is hard to make profit with low ROI now. But if you do not want to let you mining rig's CPU idle. Then you can use it to mine some potential coins to keep, which you think the coin had future.

Any small coin you thinking about? I don't really know the CPU coins available.

You have to search it yourself. It's not like there is recommendation for coin. What your goal is to look trough some coins that can be mined with CPU, chose one that you think will have price increase in future and mine it, sell later for profit. Otherwise you won't be seeing much money.

Exactly! We can't suggest you any potential coin to mine because any coin that you mine with CPU  won't make profit now. You have to decide which coin that you think the price will rise in future, then mine it and keep it.


Title: Re: i7 mining?
Post by: philipma1957 on August 14, 2017, 03:18:25 PM
mine xmr  use 4 threads  use nvoc0018 to mine with


Title: Re: i7 mining?
Post by: FUKT on August 14, 2017, 04:01:23 PM
Unless you have a die from a distant future, forget about it. Better leave your system flawless and cool.


Title: Re: i7 mining?
Post by: xplorer79 on August 14, 2017, 04:20:06 PM
Hi, if it's not for profit, perhaps you could try the smart mining feature of Minergate software ? It automatically chooses the best profitable coin.


Title: Re: i7 mining?
Post by: wilkas on August 15, 2017, 05:11:14 AM
My i7 6600K mines with Nicehash and returns ~0,2 EUR/day. I have reduced max CPU output to 70% in Win10 to keep it cool - it runs at 43C, but keep in mind that at the same time it also mines 7TB Burst plots with its IGPU, runs 4 StorJ nodes and ~20 apps for my work with documents.


Title: Re: i7 mining?
Post by: umine on August 15, 2017, 06:30:41 AM
Is there any coin worth mining with an i7-7700?
I looked into Monero, but it doesn't seem profitable. I am mining SIGT with 2xGPU, but I thought I might aswell put my CPU to use when I'm not using it.

Cheers,
pika

There are enough CPU-only coins. Try ZOI, MAGI, VRM, HEXX. You can check your possible profitability by using YIIMP Bench web-page. I think CPU-mining is a long term investment so choose a coin, mine it for 2-3 month and forget about it for 2-4 month and The profit can be good.


Title: Re: i7 mining?
Post by: civilufo on August 15, 2017, 08:46:21 AM
Is there any coin worth mining with an i7-7700?
I looked into Monero, but it doesn't seem profitable. I am mining SIGT with 2xGPU, but I thought I might aswell put my CPU to use when I'm not using it.

Cheers,
pika

There are enough CPU-only coins. Try ZOI, MAGI, VRM, HEXX. You can check your possible profitability by using YIIMP Bench web-page. I think CPU-mining is a long term investment so choose a coin, mine it for 2-3 month and forget about it for 2-4 month and The profit can be good.

Thanks for your information, I know only MAGI cpu only coin (although it is no longer cpu only). I will check others later.


Title: Re: i7 mining?
Post by: onlinehandelen on August 15, 2017, 09:06:43 AM
Is there any coin worth mining with an i7-7700?
I looked into Monero, but it doesn't seem profitable. I am mining SIGT with 2xGPU, but I thought I might aswell put my CPU to use when I'm not using it.

Cheers,
pika

There are enough CPU-only coins. Try ZOI, MAGI, VRM, HEXX. You can check your possible profitability by using YIIMP Bench web-page. I think CPU-mining is a long term investment so choose a coin, mine it for 2-3 month and forget about it for 2-4 month and The profit can be good.

How can I mine these CPU coins? Never heard of them?


Title: Re: i7 mining?
Post by: Tipstar on August 15, 2017, 09:16:56 AM
Is there any coin worth mining with an i7-7700?
I looked into Monero, but it doesn't seem profitable. I am mining SIGT with 2xGPU, but I thought I might aswell put my CPU to use when I'm not using it.

Cheers,
pika

There are enough CPU-only coins. Try ZOI, MAGI, VRM, HEXX. You can check your possible profitability by using YIIMP Bench web-page. I think CPU-mining is a long term investment so choose a coin, mine it for 2-3 month and forget about it for 2-4 month and The profit can be good.

How can I mine these CPU coins? Never heard of them?

You can search for them. But most of the coins so called to be CPU-only are in a short time realized to be minable with other computing graphics cards with some tweaks. So, the CPU mining profit works only with the new coins.
Use your hardware for your choice of coin, trying new coins from your CPU. Who knows, what coin will be the next hit.


Title: Re: i7 mining?
Post by: MA3A on August 23, 2017, 04:52:32 AM
i7-6700k/z170 stock/nicehash/xmr 230hs- $0,33 a day  cryptonight
i7-4790k/z97 stock/nicehash/xmr 270hs - $0,45 a day  cryptonight
i5-4690k/z97 stock/nicehash/xmr 215hs - $0,42 a day cryptonight added 9/11/17
i7-2700k/z77 stock/nicehash/xmr 150hs - $0.40 a day  cryptonight
i9-7900x/z299 stock/nicehash/xmr 504hs - $0.70 a day  cryptonight
i5-6600k/z97 stock/nicehash/xmr 125hs- $0.25 a day cryptonight
- per 8-22-2017


Title: Re: i7 mining?
Post by: coinnoob_za on August 23, 2017, 07:48:28 AM
Monero Price is skyrocketing last few days. I have been mining it for 2 months with CPU's that are liquid cooled. So might have been worth it.
Minergate has ability to set CPU intensity so you can have the CPU mine at lesser intensity so it doesnt load CPU 100% all the time.
But really a long term thing if you believe in a coin like Monero which is showing promise


Title: Re: i7 mining?
Post by: sundownz on August 23, 2017, 10:48:20 AM
I put my CPUs on IntenseCoin -- it's had quite a few hiccups but it's interesting & also very new so has upside potential.


Title: Re: i7 mining?
Post by: shintosai on August 23, 2017, 10:54:14 AM
Monero Price is skyrocketing last few days. I have been mining it for 2 months with CPU's that are liquid cooled. So might have been worth it.
Minergate has ability to set CPU intensity so you can have the CPU mine at lesser intensity so it doesnt load CPU 100% all the time.
But really a long term thing if you believe in a coin like Monero which is showing promise
i did plan doing this before using those cpu from my small computer shop but after seeing the result which is not profitable if electricity included
and the harmed that it will cause to my computers so i did forget about it dont know if someone can tell us here if they can still getting profits
with cpu mining.


Title: Re: i7 mining?
Post by: djentmining on August 24, 2017, 06:57:07 PM
Recently started on my i7-6700K using Claymore CryptoNote CPU Miner v3.5 Beta. Initially started 239 h/s then it went down to 198 h/s stable.
Thank you coinnoob_za for suggesting this to me  :)


Title: Re: i7 mining?
Post by: Shnikes101 on August 24, 2017, 09:23:08 PM
Recently started on my i7-6700K using Claymore CryptoNote CPU Miner v3.5 Beta. Initially started 239 h/s then it went down to 198 h/s stable.
Thank you coinnoob_za for suggesting this to me  :)

Very interesting. What coin are you mining? I've never thought about turning my cpu onto a coin. I have several computers that could easily be pointed to a miner during off hours.


Title: Re: i7 mining?
Post by: crazydane on August 24, 2017, 11:41:54 PM
My Burst miner has an E5-2683 V3 (14 core) CPU.  It does about $1.10 on NiceHash doing CryptoNight. 


Title: Re: i7 mining?
Post by: Elder III on August 25, 2017, 02:13:36 AM
We're making $0.80 - $2.27 per day depending on the coin mined with our AMD Ryzen CPUs.  We don't  mine with any of our Intel CPUs though since they're not nearly as good at it (unless you have Xeons of course). You can make a little bit mining with a recent gen i7 but it's not all that much after power costs.


Title: Re: i7 mining?
Post by: darthmaul on August 25, 2017, 07:32:12 AM

Is there any coin worth mining with an i7-7700?

I looked into Monero, but it doesn't seem profitable. I am mining SIGT with 2xGPU, but I thought I might aswell put my CPU to use when I'm not using it.


Cheers,

pika




CPU would be very unfair to use as it will not generate any good hashing power which plays important role in the mining process and revenue generation. GPU is good option always but that too with high end performance CPU otherwise it will start lagging in the computing power, making whole thing run in poor state. Hope you find a way to set it up perfect.


Title: Re: i7 mining?
Post by: joshuaj on August 25, 2017, 08:50:11 AM
We're making $0.80 - $2.27 per day depending on the coin mined with our AMD Ryzen CPUs.  We don't  mine with any of our Intel CPUs though since they're not nearly as good at it (unless you have Xeons of course). You can make a little bit mining with a recent gen i7 but it's not all that much after power costs.

AMD Ryzen really gives best mining hashrate by CPU mining, may I ask which coin did you mine?


Title: Re: i7 mining?
Post by: akuci on August 25, 2017, 10:22:54 AM
Try MAGI (XMG).

CPU Miner OPT is good for recent high end CPU's, for low end Celerons and Pentiums use Spexx optimized version for M7Mhash algo. Ryzen CPUs in GPU mining rigs are good investment ATM I think. You can make really good profit with them, and they don't consume that much power for the profit they make.


Title: Re: i7 mining?
Post by: tariquemansuri on August 25, 2017, 12:03:06 PM
Is there any coin worth mining with an i7-7700?
I looked into Monero, but it doesn't seem profitable. I am mining SIGT with 2xGPU, but I thought I might aswell put my CPU to use when I'm not using it.

Cheers,
pika

Hi,

You can do Merged Mining Dogecoin and Litceoin.

http://altpool.poolarchy.com/


Title: Re: i7 mining?
Post by: joshuaj on August 26, 2017, 12:52:04 PM
Is there any coin worth mining with an i7-7700?
I looked into Monero, but it doesn't seem profitable. I am mining SIGT with 2xGPU, but I thought I might aswell put my CPU to use when I'm not using it.

Cheers,
pika

Hi,

You can do Merged Mining Dogecoin and Litceoin.

http://altpool.poolarchy.com/

I wondering how both dogecoin and litecoin can be merged mining as both are using same algorithm?


Title: Re: i7 mining?
Post by: djentmining on August 30, 2017, 09:03:42 PM
Recently started on my i7-6700K using Claymore CryptoNote CPU Miner v3.5 Beta. Initially started 239 h/s then it went down to 198 h/s stable.
Thank you coinnoob_za for suggesting this to me  :)

Very interesting. What coin are you mining? I've never thought about turning my cpu onto a coin. I have several computers that could easily be pointed to a miner during off hours.

Doing Nicehash Cryptonight @ ~ 198 - 231 H/s slow like a snail but at least something flowing in can't complain ;D


Title: Re: i7 mining?
Post by: antantti on August 30, 2017, 10:06:49 PM
http://i65.tinypic.com/2ahwm6w.png

2600k@4.4


Title: Re: i7 mining?
Post by: Supercoiner111 on August 31, 2017, 10:08:09 AM
Cyrptonight is good on i7!!!


Title: Re: i7 mining?
Post by: Vann on August 31, 2017, 10:31:49 AM
Currently mining Monero with a i7-4770 getting ~320 H/s using the XMR-STAK-CPU miner. Nexus is another good coin to look at and it's been on a tear up latetly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaBcBXoLYFU


Title: Re: i7 mining?
Post by: Vantix on August 31, 2017, 02:40:42 PM
Cyrptonight is good on i7!!!

No, it's not. Ryzen is better in any category, especially efficiency and price. With Ryzen you can move monero and it will be very good at it


Title: Re: i7 mining?
Post by: djentmining on August 31, 2017, 07:10:12 PM
Cyrptonight is good on i7!!!

Not that good but as Vantix said Ryzen is better.


Title: Re: i7 mining?
Post by: joshuaj on September 03, 2017, 03:09:07 AM
Cyrptonight is good on i7!!!

No, it's not. Ryzen is better in any category, especially efficiency and price. With Ryzen you can move monero and it will be very good at it

Besides mining, does Ryzen play a good role in windows desktop especially programming? Would like to get one for my development machine and might use it to mine while idle.


Title: Re: i7 mining?
Post by: pikatju on September 03, 2017, 03:13:44 AM
Cyrptonight is good on i7!!!

Is it worth the electricity?


Title: Re: i7 mining?
Post by: civilufo on September 04, 2017, 01:33:39 AM
Cyrptonight is good on i7!!!

Is it worth the electricity?


You are hardly earn after you pay the electricity bill with cpu mining. But you can mine potential coin and keep, and wait for the price rise in future.


Title: Re: i7 mining?
Post by: pikatju on September 04, 2017, 02:33:42 AM
Cyrptonight is good on i7!!!

Is it worth the electricity?


You are hardly earn after you pay the electricity bill with cpu mining. But you can mine potential coin and keep, and wait for the price rise in future.

But then I might aswell buy it with the money I would have spend on the electricity.


Title: Re: i7 mining?
Post by: joshuaj on September 04, 2017, 03:58:13 AM
Cyrptonight is good on i7!!!

Is it worth the electricity?


You are hardly earn after you pay the electricity bill with cpu mining. But you can mine potential coin and keep, and wait for the price rise in future.

But then I might aswell buy it with the money I would have spend on the electricity.

Haha, I agreed with your point  ;D

But I think he meant you will earn a little after paying electricity.


Title: Re: i7 mining?
Post by: bitDad13 on September 04, 2017, 04:31:15 AM
Recently started on my i7-6700K using Claymore CryptoNote CPU Miner v3.5 Beta. Initially started 239 h/s then it went down to 198 h/s stable.
Thank you coinnoob_za for suggesting this to me  :)

your hashrate is good
I'm using MinerGate to mine Monero with i5 2500k, very low hashrate ~90H/s with 3/4 cores
you can see my testing video here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGEA87ogrgw


Title: Re: i7 mining?
Post by: joshuaj on September 05, 2017, 12:50:30 AM
Recently started on my i7-6700K using Claymore CryptoNote CPU Miner v3.5 Beta. Initially started 239 h/s then it went down to 198 h/s stable.
Thank you coinnoob_za for suggesting this to me  :)

your hashrate is good
I'm using MinerGate to mine Monero with i5 2500k, very low hashrate ~90H/s with 3/4 cores
you can see my testing video here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGEA87ogrgw

I think mainly because i5 2500k only 4 threads.


Title: Re: i7 mining?
Post by: MA3A on September 05, 2017, 03:34:26 AM
Quote
if electricity included and the harmed that it will cause to my computers
- electricity, yes.
 - it wont do any harm unless you will be overclocking or use it outside of specification requirements.


Title: Re: i7 mining?
Post by: bgdmxd on September 05, 2017, 05:42:41 AM
Recently started on my i7-6700K using Claymore CryptoNote CPU Miner v3.5 Beta. Initially started 239 h/s then it went down to 198 h/s stable.
Thank you coinnoob_za for suggesting this to me  :)

your hashrate is good
I'm using MinerGate to mine Monero with i5 2500k, very low hashrate ~90H/s with 3/4 cores
you can see my testing video here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGEA87ogrgw

I have been CPU mining Monero using the MinerGate desktop program also. Have you made any withdrawal yet? I have heard some bad comments on withdrawing Monero from MinerGate. My balance has not reach the minimum yet to try it myself.


Title: Re: i7 mining?
Post by: joshuaj on September 05, 2017, 07:57:51 AM
Recently started on my i7-6700K using Claymore CryptoNote CPU Miner v3.5 Beta. Initially started 239 h/s then it went down to 198 h/s stable.
Thank you coinnoob_za for suggesting this to me  :)

your hashrate is good
I'm using MinerGate to mine Monero with i5 2500k, very low hashrate ~90H/s with 3/4 cores
you can see my testing video here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGEA87ogrgw

I have been CPU mining Monero using the MinerGate desktop program also. Have you made any withdrawal yet? I have heard some bad comments on withdrawing Monero from MinerGate. My balance has not reach the minimum yet to try it myself.

I have withdrawed XMR from minergate before without any problem. What kind of bad comments?


Title: Re: i7 mining?
Post by: abudfv2008 on September 05, 2017, 08:10:46 AM
your hashrate is good
I'm using MinerGate to mine Monero with i5 2500k, very low hashrate ~90H/s with 3/4 cores
you can see my testing video here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGEA87ogrgw

I think mainly because i5 2500k only 4 threads.
i5-2500 at 3.6Gh, right miner, 3 threads, clean Win gives 145+h/s
i7 should all give 200-270+ depending on frequency.


Title: Re: i7 mining?
Post by: antantti on September 05, 2017, 09:31:11 AM
Any Intel cpu with AES does about 18h/s /Ghz /thread, number of threads is the amount of L3 cache /2. If you are getting less you are doing something (miner, pool, settins) wrong.

Examples (+/-10%):

i3@3GHz 4MB cache so 18x3x2=108 h/s
i5@4GHz 6MB cache so 18x4x3=216 h/s
i7@5GHz 8MB cache so 18x5x4=360 h/s
Xeon@2GHz 44MB cache so 18x2x22= 792 h/s

Easy tool to play with intel cpu + windows:

https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/24075/Intel-Extreme-Tuning-Utility-Intel-XTU-



Title: Re: i7 mining?
Post by: kcopcu on September 05, 2017, 09:48:23 AM
Any Intel cpu with AES does about 18h/s /Ghz /thread, number of threads is the amount of L3 cache /2. If you are getting less you are doing something (miner, pool, settins) wrong.

Examples (+/-10%):

i3@3GHz 4MB cache so 18x3x2=108 h/s
i5@4GHz 6MB cache so 18x4x3=216 h/s
i7@5GHz 8MB cache so 18x5x4=360 h/s
Xeon@2GHz 44MB cache so 18x2x22= 792 h/s

Easy tool to play with intel cpu + windows:

https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/24075/Intel-Extreme-Tuning-Utility-Intel-XTU-



Awesome examples , thank you


Title: Re: i7 mining?
Post by: MA3A on September 08, 2017, 11:13:54 PM
Quote
Xeon@2GHz 44MB cache so 18x2x22= 792 h/s
- what model is that?
 and what OS are those hashes are?

 


Title: Re: i7 mining?
Post by: civilufo on September 09, 2017, 05:43:15 AM
Any Intel cpu with AES does about 18h/s /Ghz /thread, number of threads is the amount of L3 cache /2. If you are getting less you are doing something (miner, pool, settins) wrong.

Examples (+/-10%):

i3@3GHz 4MB cache so 18x3x2=108 h/s
i5@4GHz 6MB cache so 18x4x3=216 h/s
i7@5GHz 8MB cache so 18x5x4=360 h/s
Xeon@2GHz 44MB cache so 18x2x22= 792 h/s

Easy tool to play with intel cpu + windows:

https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/24075/Intel-Extreme-Tuning-Utility-Intel-XTU-



I remember I check with one of my server but with only 200h/s by using Xeon cpu. I can't remember the model, or maybe let me check it again then post my results here.


Title: Re: i7 mining?
Post by: yugyug on September 09, 2017, 05:54:51 AM
does anybody try to compare hash rate of i7 vs the hash rate of intel dual xeon e5 ? which of them is more profitable ? or it is much better to buy an intel pentium gxxxx series rig with sinlge 1070 or 1080 8gb gpu.


Title: Re: i7 mining?
Post by: antantti on September 09, 2017, 07:56:32 AM
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Xeon@2GHz 44MB cache so 18x2x22= 792 h/s
- what model is that?
 and what OS are those hashes are?

 

*nix, windows. More L3=more threads, it's all about cache.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_Xeon_microprocessors



Title: Re: i7 mining?
Post by: MA3A on September 10, 2017, 12:55:47 AM
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does anybody try to compare hash rate of i7 vs the hash rate of intel dual xeon e5 ? which of them is more profitable ? or it is much better to buy an intel pentium gxxxx series rig with sinlge 1070 or 1080 8gb gpu.

- I'd say go with GPU, unless you have access to cheap electricity and xeons, 7970 does 500-512hs...VEGA64 apparently does about 1000hs(mine/stock/claymore/balanced)-1500hs(some people showed screnshot, here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2162484.msg21653108#msg21653108) i have not tried it on 1080ti yet


Title: Re: i7 mining?
Post by: civilufo on September 10, 2017, 02:46:30 AM
does anybody try to compare hash rate of i7 vs the hash rate of intel dual xeon e5 ? which of them is more profitable ? or it is much better to buy an intel pentium gxxxx series rig with sinlge 1070 or 1080 8gb gpu.

I own a i7 machine, and tested with Xeon x5 recently. X5 performed very bad, just about 200h/s, it is much less than i7 in cryptonight algorithm.


Title: Re: i7 mining?
Post by: MA3A on September 11, 2017, 06:05:07 PM
Turns out this little soft knows how to get yourself +10 to +20% in hash rate, without the need to tinker with settings in bios.
https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/24075/Intel-Extreme-Tuning-Utility-Intel-XTU-


Title: Re: i7 mining?
Post by: antantti on September 11, 2017, 07:09:44 PM
X5 performed very bad, just about 200h/s, it is much less than i7 in cryptonight algorithm.

X5000 series is too old, also some xeons are only rebranded i7's (or other way around). Look at the size of L3 cache, more cache=more threads=more speed.

Turns out this little soft knows how to get yourself +10 to +20% in hash rate, without the need to tinker with settings in bios.
https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/24075/Intel-Extreme-Tuning-Utility-Intel-XTU-

Yep, boost on all active cores does the trick.

compare hash rate of i7 vs the hash rate of intel dual xeon e5 ? which of them is more profitable ? or it is much better to buy an intel pentium gxxxx series rig with sinlge 1070 or 1080 8gb gpu.

Dual xeon mb filled with large cache cpu's and hawaii gpu's gives you most cryptonight hash for the buck. Not saying it's the most profitable way to go but if you have cheap electricity, find those parts cheap and want to mine xmr then why not.

Nvidia gpu's don't shine in cryptonight, their hash earns better in compute heavy algos.


Title: Re: i7 mining?
Post by: kilobytez on September 12, 2017, 02:56:56 AM
You can try using Nicehash (NHEQMINER) to mine equihash with 20 Sol/s per cpu
If you do a combined hashing along with GPU, it will be worth!


Title: Re: i7 mining?
Post by: joshuaj on September 12, 2017, 05:53:28 AM
X5000 series is too old, also some xeons are only rebranded i7's (or other way around). Look at the size of L3 cache, more cache=more threads=more speed.

Thanks for your info, I just get to know that L3 cache benefits in threading. I will read about this to compare against CPU later.


Title: Re: i7 mining?
Post by: funnynuffy on September 12, 2017, 07:36:41 AM
Yep - L3 cache is a dealbreaker in Monero mining. Thats why I based all my recent rigs on AMD Ryzen processors - unbeatable in price / performance ratio compared to Intel.
Dont go below 1600 line. But 1600, 1600X, 1700, 1700X - all will be actually profitable and can pay themselves.
All these CPUs can run at 3.8 GHz safely with voltage 1.23V 24/7 while doing really nice hashrates:
Idle system (Win 10): 44 W
1600X @ 3.8 - 540-550 H/s - 95 W at the wall = ca 41 W of power rise against idle - which is really nice, considering its 95W TDP CPU
1700 @ 3.8 - 630 H/s - same wattage as 1600X

You will probably find some GPUs that can match this performance / watt - but most likely they will consume more.
But Monero is overall more "eco-friendly" than ETH. One of my computers with two 1070 and Ryzen 1600X inside is taking 330W while mining ETH+SIA on GPUs and XMR on CPU. But when I switch also the GPUs to XMR - it takes 235W from the wall. Btw 1070 do around 705-710 H/s.

hope it helps guys - even in i7 thread :D


Title: Re: i7 mining?
Post by: antantti on September 12, 2017, 08:39:54 PM
Thats why I based all my recent rigs on AMD Ryzen processors - unbeatable in price / performance ratio compared to Intel.

If I had to build new rigs with the latest tech I would go ryzen, no question about that.

Opterons are doing pretty well too.

edit: sorry for the OT, i7 thread...


Title: Re: i7 mining?
Post by: joshuaj on September 13, 2017, 03:19:56 PM
Thats why I based all my recent rigs on AMD Ryzen processors - unbeatable in price / performance ratio compared to Intel.

If I had to build new rigs with the latest tech I would go ryzen, no question about that.

Opterons are doing pretty well too.

edit: sorry for the OT, i7 thread...

But too bad that no ryzen mobo supports more pci-e slots yet... Or maybe there is but I don't know?


Title: Re: i7 mining?
Post by: Vangardo on September 13, 2017, 06:19:03 PM
Personally from me, the mining on processors has long gone obsolete. If they come up with a new algorithm  you can have a couple of weeks of mining


Title: Re: i7 mining?
Post by: joshuaj on September 17, 2017, 02:13:21 PM
Personally from me, the mining on processors has long gone obsolete. If they come up with a new algorithm  you can have a couple of weeks of mining

You are right, only new algorithm should worth.


Title: Re: i7 mining?
Post by: Elder III on September 19, 2017, 01:00:53 AM
Thats why I based all my recent rigs on AMD Ryzen processors - unbeatable in price / performance ratio compared to Intel.

If I had to build new rigs with the latest tech I would go ryzen, no question about that.

Opterons are doing pretty well too.

edit: sorry for the OT, i7 thread...

But too bad that no ryzen mobo supports more pci-e slots yet... Or maybe there is but I don't know?

Biostar makes the TB350 BTC, a mining specific motherboard for the AM4 socket. We have 5 rigs running 6 x GPUs and R5 1600 CPUs, all mining of course. With the current price of Monero, Ryzen is a very nice CPU miner.... there are other coins to mine as well if you want to dig around a little deeper. :)


Title: Re: i7 mining?
Post by: civilufo on September 19, 2017, 05:02:04 AM
Thats why I based all my recent rigs on AMD Ryzen processors - unbeatable in price / performance ratio compared to Intel.

If I had to build new rigs with the latest tech I would go ryzen, no question about that.

Opterons are doing pretty well too.

edit: sorry for the OT, i7 thread...

But too bad that no ryzen mobo supports more pci-e slots yet... Or maybe there is but I don't know?

Biostar makes the TB350 BTC, a mining specific motherboard for the AM4 socket. We have 5 rigs running 6 x GPUs and R5 1600 CPUs, all mining of course. With the current price of Monero, Ryzen is a very nice CPU miner.... there are other coins to mine as well if you want to dig around a little deeper. :)

Thanks for your info, I have checked biostar tb350, but it is just 6 pcie slots, I was thinking to have more than 10 slots motherboard like tb250 btc pro.


Title: Re: i7 mining?
Post by: Astmalim on September 19, 2017, 07:27:37 AM
Personally from me, the mining on processors has long gone obsolete. If they come up with a new algorithm  you can have a couple of weeks of mining

It is still more efficient to mine the Monero with good CPU.


Title: Re: i7 mining?
Post by: un4given on September 19, 2017, 07:57:16 AM
Personally from me, the mining on processors has long gone obsolete. If they come up with a new algorithm  you can have a couple of weeks of mining

It is still more efficient to mine the Monero with good CPU.

what cpu miner are you using? i have a xeon 1271 V3 sitting around and doing nothing and would like to mine XMR, but with old ccminer miner i was getting like 90 h/s :/


Title: Re: i7 mining?
Post by: joshuaj on September 20, 2017, 02:45:22 AM
Personally from me, the mining on processors has long gone obsolete. If they come up with a new algorithm  you can have a couple of weeks of mining

It is still more efficient to mine the Monero with good CPU.

what cpu miner are you using? i have a xeon 1271 V3 sitting around and doing nothing and would like to mine XMR, but with old ccminer miner i was getting like 90 h/s :/

Can you use ccminer to mine by cpu? I thought we have to use cpuminer instead?


Title: Re: i7 mining?
Post by: civilufo on September 21, 2017, 05:31:15 AM
You can to order almost any miner from AsiaOptom. We have a lot of miners, and we deliver it from China. There are the most popular miners on the website  http://asiaoptom.com/catalog-miners/. We have and the other too. You can aks me about it ishimov.danil@asiaoptom.com

We are discussing about cpu miner here, are you okay?

And yet your website is in Russian by default, but deliver from China? Very suspicious...


Title: Re: i7 mining?
Post by: Sidas_Crew669 on September 21, 2017, 07:55:52 AM
I think if you want to use CPu as a basis to get some cryptocurrency it's a very detrimental thing, because the benefits that you can get a little and the possibility to be very large (Cryptocurrency is) is also not necessarily. I think if you intend to find a coin in mining it would be better to use gpu as you have already used. For more power and maximum profit is good enough.And remember that if you use mining then it should always be ready to increase the number of mining tools, otherwise you can get the loss quickly


Title: Re: i7 mining?
Post by: Qunenin on September 21, 2017, 04:11:11 PM
Maybe you should use one of those profits switching sites. Search what you're actually talking about is CPU mining that I don't think you're going to get anywhere with it if you don't use some sort of site that's going to switch the coins for you. Otherwise you're still going to lose money using those type of sites but at least you will get a little bit more than if you were to do it on your own.


Title: Re: i7 mining?
Post by: rossskkinder on September 23, 2017, 09:01:42 PM
Please will you tell me more about it.Im pretty interested.


Title: Re: i7 mining?
Post by: freebutcaged on September 23, 2017, 09:15:29 PM
Something bothering me for a long time, if mining altcoins is not profitable in most cases if not all then why would people keep mining them even they

Can see they're not earning any profit? some one probably assembled some kind of miner with special hardware and they are mining some of the best

Altcoins more than all of us combined, no matter how many CPU I use to mine Monero, it will never be profitable for me, unless I have free electricity

Which I don't yet I'm mining it with CPU.


Title: Re: i7 mining?
Post by: dave4925 on September 24, 2017, 01:00:05 AM
if you have a haswell or newer generation i7 and overclock it, you can make like a a few pennies a day if you have cheap electricity.


Title: Re: i7 mining?
Post by: joshuaj on September 24, 2017, 03:38:30 AM
if you have a haswell or newer generation i7 and overclock it, you can make like a a few pennies a day if you have cheap electricity.

You're right, I have one i7 7700 and I can see the performance, but the heat henerated is much much more than old i7, so a water cooler is preferred for mining purpose.


Title: Re: i7 mining?
Post by: dave4925 on September 24, 2017, 06:10:43 PM
if you have a haswell or newer generation i7 and overclock it, you can make like a a few pennies a day if you have cheap electricity.

You're right, I have one i7 7700 and I can see the performance, but the heat henerated is much much more than old i7, so a water cooler is preferred for mining purpose.

I have a 4790K Devil's Canyon (haswell refresh) overclocked with a large Phantek tower dual fan cooler with decent TIM.  It peaks at 55C at 320 H/s.  I use XMR-STAK-CPU miner.


Title: Re: i7 mining?
Post by: joshuaj on September 26, 2017, 03:06:54 PM
if you have a haswell or newer generation i7 and overclock it, you can make like a a few pennies a day if you have cheap electricity.

You're right, I have one i7 7700 and I can see the performance, but the heat henerated is much much more than old i7, so a water cooler is preferred for mining purpose.

I have a 4790K Devil's Canyon (haswell refresh) overclocked with a large Phantek tower dual fan cooler with decent TIM.  It peaks at 55C at 320 H/s.  I use XMR-STAK-CPU miner.

Maybe 4790K is better in heat issue, but 7700 is really bad, I even found an statement by Intel saying 100C is just fine with 7700, because alot of people complaint about the heat issue.


Title: Re: i7 mining?
Post by: WiserCoin on September 26, 2017, 03:31:33 PM
You can try wsc with this processor.


Title: Re: i7 mining?
Post by: joshuaj on October 03, 2017, 10:17:15 AM
You can try wsc with this processor.


Wisercoin? That is a scrypt algo!!! Are you trying to joke with us or you trying to build up your post count?


Title: Re: i7 mining?
Post by: kripitov on October 03, 2017, 01:19:16 PM
CPU mining is no longer profitable.


Title: Re: i7 mining?
Post by: EMWEE on October 03, 2017, 03:05:06 PM
I'm mining Monero on a couple of E5-2430's on my work and it gives me around 2400h/s.


Title: Re: i7 mining?
Post by: Thebestis7950 on October 03, 2017, 04:10:06 PM
ive got a i7
looking for things to mine with it


Title: Re: i7 mining?
Post by: Yurkov on October 03, 2017, 04:20:45 PM
Is there any coin worth mining with an i7-7700?
I looked into Monero, but it doesn't seem profitable. I am mining SIGT with 2xGPU, but I thought I might aswell put my CPU to use when I'm not using it.

Cheers,
pika
If you only think about getting profit from it don't wait for much money, that's my advice.


Title: Re: i7 mining?
Post by: Astmalim on November 02, 2017, 05:24:39 PM
ive got a i7
looking for things to mine with it

You can mine Monero or ZCash.


Title: Re: i7 mining?
Post by: Mitea on November 02, 2017, 05:32:09 PM
I think you try Monero or Zcash