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Title: Have you seen this? All the Money in the World - Visual from demonocracy Post by: centralbanksequalsbombs on August 15, 2017, 02:45:59 AM I encourage you to scroll through this cool visual here of the liquidity pyramid which includes bitcoin (Jan 2017 already being dated):
http://demonocracy.info/infographics/world/lqp/liquidity_pyramid.html (http://demonocracy.info/infographics/world/lqp/liquidity_pyramid.html) Have you seen this? Surprised by anything here? Thoughts? Title: Re: Have you seen this? All the Money in the World - Visual from demonocracy Post by: bitcoinmaniac52 on August 15, 2017, 03:37:40 AM I encourage you to scroll through this cool visual here of the liquidity pyramid which includes bitcoin (Jan 2017 already being dated): http://demonocracy.info/infographics/world/lqp/liquidity_pyramid.html (http://demonocracy.info/infographics/world/lqp/liquidity_pyramid.html) Have you seen this? Surprised by anything here? Thoughts? This is a really amazing graphic. However, I do think the scale is off for Bitcoin's market cap compared to the billionaires listed. With that said, $1,000,000 seems a lot smaller now when you compare it to $1,000,000,000,000. hahaha Title: Re: Have you seen this? All the Money in the World - Visual from demonocracy Post by: alexius89-2 on August 15, 2017, 03:40:02 AM Reminds me of the site that ranks your global wealth based on assets, income, etc. Most people in the 'lower class' division of America are still in the top 10% or something globally. Staggering!
Title: Re: Have you seen this? All the Money in the World - Visual from demonocracy Post by: skyline247 on August 15, 2017, 04:03:00 AM Reminds me of the site that ranks your global wealth based on assets, income, etc. Most people in the 'lower class' division of America are still in the top 10% or something globally. Staggering! Indeed, literally all Americans except the homeless are considered as rich by global standards. Even richer or wealthier individuals living in poorer countries could be considered less wealthy due to the low level of public infrastructure. Title: Re: Have you seen this? All the Money in the World - Visual from demonocracy Post by: BitcoinBarrel on August 15, 2017, 04:09:52 AM Reminds me of the site that ranks your global wealth based on assets, income, etc. Most people in the 'lower class' division of America are still in the top 10% or something globally. Staggering! Indeed, literally all Americans except the homeless are considered as rich by global standards. Even richer or wealthier individuals living in poorer countries could be considered less wealthy due to the low level of public infrastructure. Most people living on modern societies are in debt, so they are poorer than a homeless man with $2 in change in his pocket. Title: Re: Have you seen this? All the Money in the World - Visual from demonocracy Post by: skyline247 on August 15, 2017, 04:15:15 AM Reminds me of the site that ranks your global wealth based on assets, income, etc. Most people in the 'lower class' division of America are still in the top 10% or something globally. Staggering! Indeed, literally all Americans except the homeless are considered as rich by global standards. Even richer or wealthier individuals living in poorer countries could be considered less wealthy due to the low level of public infrastructure. Most people living on modern societies are in debt, so they are poorer than a homeless man with $2 in change in his pocket. That is a good point which is also of note. I also believe this to be true. However, it does not change my point about the public infrastructure which even homeless people can take advantage of for free. (Example: they use supermarket washrooms to wash up, air conditioning, etc.) Many, many countries do not have air conditioning in most buildings. We take it for granted. Title: Re: Have you seen this? All the Money in the World - Visual from demonocracy Post by: centralbanksequalsbombs on August 19, 2017, 03:51:50 AM Interesting viewpoints.
Hmm, well I was amazed about the $50 Trillion in Fiat money in Banks available for withdrawal at anytime. Bitcoin isn't even ONE PERCENT of that?! Title: Re: Have you seen this? All the Money in the World - Visual from demonocracy Post by: centralbanksequalsbombs on September 18, 2017, 07:09:34 AM I encourage you to scroll through this cool visual here of the liquidity pyramid which includes bitcoin (Jan 2017 already being dated): http://demonocracy.info/infographics/world/lqp/liquidity_pyramid.html (http://demonocracy.info/infographics/world/lqp/liquidity_pyramid.html) Have you seen this? Surprised by anything here? Thoughts? Anyway to make or summarize this visual into one pic in a post here? Or is it impossible because of how long it is and the endless scrolling? Title: Re: Have you seen this? All the Money in the World - Visual from demonocracy Post by: TheGodson on September 18, 2017, 08:31:22 AM This graphic is really cool. I especially liked it at the beginning. When it started getting really big it was just too much to wrap my mind around.
Reminds me of the site that ranks your global wealth based on assets, income, etc. Most people in the 'lower class' division of America are still in the top 10% or something globally. Staggering! I just checked out my own wealth at Global Rich List and I'm in the top 1.03% when it comes to income, which is shocking since from where I'm from it isn't even considered that much. It isn't bad, but it isn't considered crazy wealthy. Surprisingly enough when I went to the wealth calculation it was 12.63%. I expected it to be even smaller since I love to save/invest, but that was not the case. Title: Re: Have you seen this? All the Money in the World - Visual from demonocracy Post by: centralbanksequalsbombs on September 24, 2017, 07:44:56 PM This graphic is really cool. I especially liked it at the beginning. When it started getting really big it was just too much to wrap my mind around. Reminds me of the site that ranks your global wealth based on assets, income, etc. Most people in the 'lower class' division of America are still in the top 10% or something globally. Staggering! I just checked out my own wealth at Global Rich List and I'm in the top 1.03% when it comes to income, which is shocking since from where I'm from it isn't even considered that much. It isn't bad, but it isn't considered crazy wealthy. Surprisingly enough when I went to the wealth calculation it was 12.63%. I expected it to be even smaller since I love to save/invest, but that was not the case. Thank you and thats great news for you. I hope this visual at the url in the OP helps teach something to readers here. It gives great reason for the past, present and future rise of Bitcoin's price as fiat is continually devalued and worthless. Bitcoin reached escape velocity 4-years ago in 2013 which means it cannot be stopped - cannot make it illegal or legal - governments/banks do not matter. Bitcoin cannot be controlled. On the opposite end of the spectrum the global fiat system broke a couple of decades ago. Fiat around the world is heavily infested, burdened and broken with: -regulatory burden on fiat banks & system (incredibly costly) -insurance fraud -false claims and insurance losses -unemployment & other welfare costs -inflating fiat to keep stock market rising and to keep house-prices from collapsing -financing conflicts, bombs, and "aid" -stabilize regions after natural disasters -keeping monopolies with internet access centralized and search engine crawlers centralized -money laundering -chargebacks -frivolous legal costs (lawsuits bogging the system down) -state-sponsored corruption and unofficial corruption (governments and gangs, banks and conartists) -retirement obligations (debasement in value to keep up with payments from government or other retirement-obligations) -fake credit (goods being transacted with credit-loss, replaced by inflation of monetary base rather than bringing perpetrators & source to justice) -costs of auditors and budgetors and accountants to governments and businesses Bitcoin, systemically, is free from these burdens. Title: Re: Have you seen this? All the Money in the World - Visual from demonocracy Post by: centralbanksequalsbombs on September 24, 2017, 11:33:46 PM Speaking of all the money in the world -
Here is how GLOBAL bitcoin is - see the Bitcoin top countries for trade here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1853019.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1853019.0) Title: Re: Have you seen this? All the Money in the World - Visual from demonocracy Post by: centralbanksequalsbombs on October 07, 2017, 11:58:11 PM I encourage you to scroll through this cool visual here of the liquidity pyramid which includes bitcoin (Jan 2017 already being dated): http://demonocracy.info/infographics/world/lqp/liquidity_pyramid.html (http://demonocracy.info/infographics/world/lqp/liquidity_pyramid.html) Have you seen this? Surprised by anything here? Thoughts? Is having a fiat, debt-based monetary system a good thing for the world? Title: Re: Have you seen this? All the Money in the World - Visual from demonocracy Post by: Za1n on October 08, 2017, 12:45:32 AM Reminds me of the site that ranks your global wealth based on assets, income, etc. Most people in the 'lower class' division of America are still in the top 10% or something globally. Staggering! Indeed, literally all Americans except the homeless are considered as rich by global standards. Even richer or wealthier individuals living in poorer countries could be considered less wealthy due to the low level of public infrastructure. Most people living on modern societies are in debt, so they are poorer than a homeless man with $2 in change in his pocket. Man this is so true. I know many people with a nice house, nice cars, nice clothes and who are in debit up their their eyeballs and beyond. You are right the net worth of the homeless man with no debt and a few coins in his pocket is higher than most of the debt slaves living in their bank owned houses, bank owned cars, and wearing their credit card charged clothes as their paychecks for the next 40 years are already allotted to someone else. If Bitcoin even has a small impact on changing this scenario for even a few people the world will become a much better place. Title: Re: Have you seen this? All the Money in the World - Visual from demonocracy Post by: centralbanksequalsbombs on October 08, 2017, 03:38:12 AM Reminds me of the site that ranks your global wealth based on assets, income, etc. Most people in the 'lower class' division of America are still in the top 10% or something globally. Staggering! Indeed, literally all Americans except the homeless are considered as rich by global standards. Even richer or wealthier individuals living in poorer countries could be considered less wealthy due to the low level of public infrastructure. Most people living on modern societies are in debt, so they are poorer than a homeless man with $2 in change in his pocket. Man this is so true. I know many people with a nice house, nice cars, nice clothes and who are in debit up their their eyeballs and beyond. You are right the net worth of the homeless man with no debt and a few coins in his pocket is higher than most of the debt slaves living in their bank owned houses, bank owned cars, and wearing their credit card charged clothes as their paychecks for the next 40 years are already allotted to someone else. If Bitcoin even has a small impact on changing this scenario for even a few people the world will become a much better place. Yes competition is a good thing. Monopolies of money by central banks around the world is a system of slavery. Title: Re: Have you seen this? All the Money in the World - Visual from demonocracy Post by: dificanovi on October 08, 2017, 10:41:41 AM Reminds me of the site that ranks your global wealth based on assets, income, etc. Most people in the 'lower class' division of America are still in the top 10% or something globally. Staggering! Indeed, literally all Americans except the homeless are considered as rich by global standards. Even richer or wealthier individuals living in poorer countries could be considered less wealthy due to the low level of public infrastructure. Most people living on modern societies are in debt, so they are poorer than a homeless man with $2 in change in his pocket. Man this is so true. I know many people with a nice house, nice cars, nice clothes and who are in debit up their their eyeballs and beyond. You are right the net worth of the homeless man with no debt and a few coins in his pocket is higher than most of the debt slaves living in their bank owned houses, bank owned cars, and wearing their credit card charged clothes as their paychecks for the next 40 years are already allotted to someone else. If Bitcoin even has a small impact on changing this scenario for even a few people the world will become a much better place. indeed people who own luxury cars and luxury homes mostly have debt to the bank. it would be nice if we invest with bitcoin maybe we will not owe to the bank. most people invest with bitcoin they get a big profit, then they will not owe it to the bank. Title: Re: Have you seen this? All the Money in the World - Visual from demonocracy Post by: Iranus on October 08, 2017, 04:30:03 PM This claims that Bitcoin's market cap is 14 billion dollars, so it was either last updated in November-December 2013 during the last bull market or in December 2016-January 2017 of this bull market. Either way, it's hideously outdated and no longer represents the Bitcoin market/crypto market as a whole.
Furthermore, I'm not sure what the relevance of this actually is, because it assumes that the value of the Bitcoin market could suddenly be "withdrawn" and all of the money would be in physical cash, which is obviously impossible. On the opposite end of the spectrum the global fiat system broke a couple of decades ago. It's shit by nature, but it's not broken yet. That'll happen once people start paying back their debts to banks, but it could take a long time.Title: Re: Have you seen this? All the Money in the World - Visual from demonocracy Post by: centralbanksequalsbombs on October 08, 2017, 05:03:14 PM This claims that Bitcoin's market cap is 14 billion dollars, so it was either last updated in November-December 2013 during the last bull market or in December 2016-January 2017 of this bull market. Either way, it's hideously outdated and no longer represents the Bitcoin market/crypto market as a whole. Haha. The link clearly marks January 2017. How did you miss this? Furthermore, I'm not sure what the relevance of this actually is, because it assumes that the value of the Bitcoin market could suddenly be "withdrawn" and all of the money would be in physical cash, which is obviously impossible. LOL. Same for every other asset listed in the world. All the value of real-estate to be suddenly "withdrawn" in physical cash would be obviously impossible. All the value of gold to be suddenly "withdrawn" in physical cash would be obviously impossible. All the value of stocks to be suddenly "withdrawn" in physical cash would be obviously impossible. All the value of bonds to be suddenly "withdrawn" in physical cash would be obviously impossible. On the opposite end of the spectrum the global fiat system broke a couple of decades ago. It's shit by nature, but it's not broken yet. That'll happen once people start paying back their debts to banks, but it could take a long time. Cool thanks for sharing your thoughts. Title: Re: Have you seen this? All the Money in the World - Visual from demonocracy Post by: centralbanksequalsbombs on October 23, 2017, 01:35:12 AM I'm wondering if demonocracy will update their webpage visual in 2018?
Title: Re: Have you seen this? All the Money in the World - Visual from demonocracy Post by: andrew24p on October 23, 2017, 01:01:06 PM This is exactly why I tell people we are still in early days. I mean we arent going to eat a majority portion of that money, but even just grabbing a small amount, we have a large potential for growth.
Title: Re: Have you seen this? All the Money in the World - Visual from demonocracy Post by: centralbanksequalsbombs on November 02, 2017, 05:48:03 AM This is exactly why I tell people we are still in early days. I mean we arent going to eat a majority portion of that money, but even just grabbing a small amount, we have a large potential for growth. exactly. Five years from now, towards end of 2022, isn't everyone going to point to today and how could you have passed on such an amazing opportunity!? Title: Re: Have you seen this? All the Money in the World - Visual from demonocracy Post by: centralbanksequalsbombs on November 04, 2017, 06:18:11 PM http://demonocracy.info/infographics/world/lqp/liquidity_pyramid.html (http://demonocracy.info/infographics/world/lqp/liquidity_pyramid.html)
Have you seen this? Title: Re: Have you seen this? All the Money in the World - Visual from demonocracy Post by: centralbanksequalsbombs on November 08, 2017, 04:25:40 AM Reminds me of the site that ranks your global wealth based on assets, income, etc. Most people in the 'lower class' division of America are still in the top 10% or something globally. Staggering! Indeed, literally all Americans except the homeless are considered as rich by global standards. Even richer or wealthier individuals living in poorer countries could be considered less wealthy due to the low level of public infrastructure. Most people living on modern societies are in debt, so they are poorer than a homeless man with $2 in change in his pocket. Man this is so true. I know many people with a nice house, nice cars, nice clothes and who are in debit up their their eyeballs and beyond. You are right the net worth of the homeless man with no debt and a few coins in his pocket is higher than most of the debt slaves living in their bank owned houses, bank owned cars, and wearing their credit card charged clothes as their paychecks for the next 40 years are already allotted to someone else. If Bitcoin even has a small impact on changing this scenario for even a few people the world will become a much better place. indeed people who own luxury cars and luxury homes mostly have debt to the bank. it would be nice if we invest with bitcoin maybe we will not owe to the bank. most people invest with bitcoin they get a big profit, then they will not owe it to the bank. As a currency is worth less overtime, the burden of debt stings a little less as long as you purchased assets that had appreciated with value in that time (or gone down less than the currency's devaluing) Title: Re: Have you seen this? All the Money in the World - Visual from demonocracy Post by: centralbanksequalsbombs on November 21, 2017, 05:07:09 AM http://demonocracy.info/infographics/world/lqp/liquidity_pyramid.html (http://demonocracy.info/infographics/world/lqp/liquidity_pyramid.html) Have you seen this? Cannot wait for the 2018 update. Title: Re: Have you seen this? All the Money in the World - Visual from demonocracy Post by: Kakmakr on November 21, 2017, 06:09:14 AM Reminds me of the site that ranks your global wealth based on assets, income, etc. Most people in the 'lower class' division of America are still in the top 10% or something globally. Staggering! Indeed, literally all Americans except the homeless are considered as rich by global standards. Even richer or wealthier individuals living in poorer countries could be considered less wealthy due to the low level of public infrastructure. Most people living on modern societies are in debt, so they are poorer than a homeless man with $2 in change in his pocket. You could not have said it any better. ;D In my family and extended family some people think they are rich when they drive fancy new cars and live in big houses. <All of that bought with debt> ^grrrrrrr^ Last Xmas I spoiled their party and I told them to compare their Net value to that of a homeless man with $10 in their pocket and the reality hit them very hard. <They look with new eyes to homeless people now> ^smile^ Title: Re: Have you seen this? All the Money in the World - Visual from demonocracy Post by: MasterJek on November 28, 2017, 01:59:37 PM Indeed, literally all Americans except the homeless are considered as rich by global standards. Even richer or wealthier individuals living in poorer countries could be considered less wealthy due to the low level of public infrastructure.
Title: Re: Have you seen this? All the Money in the World - Visual from demonocracy Post by: centralbanksequalsbombs on November 30, 2017, 06:56:20 AM Indeed, literally all Americans except the homeless are considered as rich by global standards. Even richer or wealthier individuals living in poorer countries could be considered less wealthy due to the low level of public infrastructure. EXACTLY and in all these poorer places the more accessible item they have is cell phone - this allows them to hold even minute amount of savings into a store of value asset that will protect/and grow their little wealth over long-term. Bitcoin is accessible to the poor across the world. Traditional central bank system assets are NOT accessible to the poor: Stocks, Houses/Real Estate, Oz of Gold bars, Bonds. Title: Re: Have you seen this? All the Money in the World - Visual from demonocracy Post by: centralbanksequalsbombs on December 03, 2017, 12:26:37 AM I encourage you to scroll through this cool visual here of the liquidity pyramid which includes bitcoin (Jan 2017 already being dated):
http://demonocracy.info/infographics/world/lqp/liquidity_pyramid.html (http://demonocracy.info/infographics/world/lqp/liquidity_pyramid.html) Title: Re: Have you seen this? All the Money in the World - Visual from demonocracy Post by: centralbanksequalsbombs on December 12, 2017, 11:20:19 PM Reminds me of the site that ranks your global wealth based on assets, income, etc. Most people in the 'lower class' division of America are still in the top 10% or something globally. Staggering! Indeed, literally all Americans except the homeless are considered as rich by global standards. Even richer or wealthier individuals living in poorer countries could be considered less wealthy due to the low level of public infrastructure. Most people living on modern societies are in debt, so they are poorer than a homeless man with $2 in change in his pocket. You could not have said it any better. ;D In my family and extended family some people think they are rich when they drive fancy new cars and live in big houses. <All of that bought with debt> ^grrrrrrr^ Last Xmas I spoiled their party and I told them to compare their Net value to that of a homeless man with $10 in their pocket and the reality hit them very hard. <They look with new eyes to homeless people now> ^smile^ Debt works okay if the assets you acquire with that debt exceeds the value of the debt and you have all funds to make payments required. But what happens if the asset you purchased with debt goes down in value instead?? Title: Re: Have you seen this? All the Money in the World - Visual from demonocracy Post by: centralbanksequalsbombs on June 03, 2018, 12:33:25 AM Liquidity pyramid keeps getting pumped with credit fiat - look at how much stocks have moved since posting this!
Title: Re: Have you seen this? All the Money in the World - Visual from demonocracy Post by: centralbanksequalsbombs on November 21, 2018, 01:06:44 AM The biggest catalyst that'd make BTC price skyrocket higher is simply move all your BTC to your PERSONAL bitcoin wallet (move off of Coinbase, Binance, Bitfinex, Square, Robinhood, CBOE/CME futures).
Fractional reserve, BTC lending, rehypothication is a bitch and can perpetually create no floor for prices by establishment market manipulators. Plus if history is any indication, one these avenues will blow up and wreck the "holders" of bitcoin that really wasn't there because they failed to take such advice. Take it off the exchanges and see what happens. Title: Re: Have you seen this? All the Money in the World - Visual from demonocracy Post by: aryatrals on November 21, 2018, 01:52:20 AM Reminds me of the site that ranks your global wealth based on assets, income, etc. Most people in the 'lower class' division of America are still in the top 10% or something globally. Staggering! not so surprising, if we realize the velocity of money in the world using dollars automatically the country of origin of the dollar is the American state will be the sole ruler in the world, because they control the dollar, so the American people will always be the richest in the world, this is not strange, but if the crypto currency is able to turn off the dollar, in the future the richest people will not be Americans, but anyone who controls crypto.Title: Re: Have you seen this? All the Money in the World - Visual from demonocracy Post by: centralbanksequalsbombs on November 21, 2018, 02:13:14 AM Reminds me of the site that ranks your global wealth based on assets, income, etc. Most people in the 'lower class' division of America are still in the top 10% or something globally. Staggering! not so surprising, if we realize the velocity of money in the world using dollars automatically the country of origin of the dollar is the American state will be the sole ruler in the world, because they control the dollar, so the American people will always be the richest in the world, this is not strange, but if the crypto currency is able to turn off the dollar, in the future the richest people will not be Americans, but anyone who controls crypto.Spot on - great post! |