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Title: Hminers- Obviously a Scam?!
Post by: Ben271286 on August 16, 2017, 09:09:46 AM
One more "too good to be true" i guess...or does anybody can report something positive?
Please be careful!

https://hminers.com

FAQ:
3. What methods of payment do you accept?
At the moment we only accept Bitcoin and Litecoin,in the near future we will add Bank Transfer as well.
4. Do you accept PayPal,Credit Cards or Bank Transfer?
Unfortunately we cannot accept at the moment those payment methods due to the frequently occurring fraud practices.
5. Can I pay cash in your office?
Due to security policies and our confidentiality policy we cannot accept this method of payment.
6. Can I pay for the order in several payments?
Yes, but your order will be confirmed only after you’ve paid in full.
Payment must be made in full in order to confirm and reserve your order
7. Can I visit your office, data center or manufacturing facilities?
Earlier visits were possible by preliminary coordination for some of our wholesale customers.
However after several cases of industrial espionage we decided to prohibit personal visits.


Title: Re: Hminers- Obviously a Scam?!
Post by: CryptoWatcher420 on August 16, 2017, 09:32:36 AM
yeah prolly fake, as we all know there are NO ETH asic miners out there. don't know about the rest of it but doubt it can mine ETH unless its got gpus lol


Title: Re: Hminers- Obviously a Scam?!
Post by: Tipstar on August 16, 2017, 10:06:53 AM
With the largest cloud mining genesis struggling. It's better to stay away from any sites that offer to buy hardware and mine cryptocoins for you. They are mostly Ponzis.


Title: Re: Hminers- Obviously a Scam?!
Post by: thesavoyard on August 16, 2017, 10:25:36 AM
100% fake. The fastest BTC miner out there is 16 Th/s and it's the Antminer S9. These miners claim to blow all competition out of the water and mine across many different algos. It's too good to be true and it isn't true.


Title: Re: Hminers- Obviously a Scam?!
Post by: Sheldoor on August 16, 2017, 01:42:00 PM
..and it ist not possible that it mines ethhash, x11 sha256 and S-crypt at the same time. This will be breaking news if someone made those asics  :o
But its a scary good site for a fake. So my fear is that many people loose money


Title: Re: Hminers- Obviously a Scam?!
Post by: Ben271286 on August 16, 2017, 01:54:25 PM
..and it ist not possible that it mines ethhash, x11 sha256 and S-crypt at the same time. This will be breaking news if someone made those asics  :o
But its a scary good site for a fake. So my fear is that many people loose money

yeah...also the team...with names pictures and everything...really scary! They spend many time on this high quality site...

Just found also this one http://www.ufominers.com/
There is a thread here...ppl also think its a scam...dammit what a world...


Title: Re: Hminers- Obviously a Scam?!
Post by: carlfebz2 on August 16, 2017, 03:22:11 PM
One more "too good to be true" i guess...or does anybody can report something positive?
Please be careful!

https://hminers.com

FAQ:
3. What methods of payment do you accept?
At the moment we only accept Bitcoin and Litecoin,in the near future we will add Bank Transfer as well.
4. Do you accept PayPal,Credit Cards or Bank Transfer?
Unfortunately we cannot accept at the moment those payment methods due to the frequently occurring fraud practices.
5. Can I pay cash in your office?
Due to security policies and our confidentiality policy we cannot accept this method of payment.
6. Can I pay for the order in several payments?
Yes, but your order will be confirmed only after you’ve paid in full.
Payment must be made in full in order to confirm and reserve your order
7. Can I visit your office, data center or manufacturing facilities?
Earlier visits were possible by preliminary coordination for some of our wholesale customers.
However after several cases of industrial espionage we decided to prohibit personal visits.


10000% Fake and don't fall on this one. What the heck on those TeraHashes. 150 th/s? WTF!  If you know the latest antminer s9 you will directly able to identify that this is just a pure bullshit scam. They do put efforts on making their site believable and I'm sure there would really be newbies would easily fall on this one if they aren't knowledgeable enough.Good for you that you did able to ask this kind of thing.


Title: Re: Hminers- Obviously a Scam?!
Post by: mirny on August 16, 2017, 03:57:06 PM
I must laugh on their website, it's not believable at all.
But you are right, they just trying to catch noobs on the bait.


Title: Re: Hminers- Obviously a Scam?!
Post by: Ben271286 on August 16, 2017, 04:06:52 PM
One more "too good to be true" i guess...or does anybody can report something positive?
Please be careful!

https://hminers.com

FAQ:
3. What methods of payment do you accept?
At the moment we only accept Bitcoin and Litecoin,in the near future we will add Bank Transfer as well.
4. Do you accept PayPal,Credit Cards or Bank Transfer?
Unfortunately we cannot accept at the moment those payment methods due to the frequently occurring fraud practices.
5. Can I pay cash in your office?
Due to security policies and our confidentiality policy we cannot accept this method of payment.
6. Can I pay for the order in several payments?
Yes, but your order will be confirmed only after you’ve paid in full.
Payment must be made in full in order to confirm and reserve your order
7. Can I visit your office, data center or manufacturing facilities?
Earlier visits were possible by preliminary coordination for some of our wholesale customers.
However after several cases of industrial espionage we decided to prohibit personal visits.


10000% Fake and don't fall on this one. What the heck on those TeraHashes. 150 th/s? WTF!  If you know the latest antminer s9 you will directly able to identify that this is just a pure bullshit scam. They do put efforts on making their site believable and I'm sure there would really be newbies would easily fall on this one if they aren't knowledgeable enough.Good for you that you did able to ask this kind of thing.

Someone on the german thread asked about it...is there a main thread about Scam Sites like this? Maybe it would be helpful for ppl to know where to buy and where not..


Title: Re: Hminers- Obviously a Scam?!
Post by: carlfebz2 on August 16, 2017, 05:17:56 PM
One more "too good to be true" i guess...or does anybody can report something positive?
Please be careful!

https://hminers.com

FAQ:
3. What methods of payment do you accept?
At the moment we only accept Bitcoin and Litecoin,in the near future we will add Bank Transfer as well.
4. Do you accept PayPal,Credit Cards or Bank Transfer?
Unfortunately we cannot accept at the moment those payment methods due to the frequently occurring fraud practices.
5. Can I pay cash in your office?
Due to security policies and our confidentiality policy we cannot accept this method of payment.
6. Can I pay for the order in several payments?
Yes, but your order will be confirmed only after you’ve paid in full.
Payment must be made in full in order to confirm and reserve your order
7. Can I visit your office, data center or manufacturing facilities?
Earlier visits were possible by preliminary coordination for some of our wholesale customers.
However after several cases of industrial espionage we decided to prohibit personal visits.


10000% Fake and don't fall on this one. What the heck on those TeraHashes. 150 th/s? WTF!  If you know the latest antminer s9 you will directly able to identify that this is just a pure bullshit scam. They do put efforts on making their site believable and I'm sure there would really be newbies would easily fall on this one if they aren't knowledgeable enough.Good for you that you did able to ask this kind of thing.

Someone on the german thread asked about it...is there a main thread about Scam Sites like this? Maybe it would be helpful for ppl to know where to buy and where not..
That person who do asked would really be a complete newbie when it comes to mining. Regarding on list on scam sites we do have a proper board on that https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0 you can see various sites which do have scam accusations but this list or board don't have all the accurate list this is why we should always seek up feedbacks on the net if we didn't able to see on what we are seeking for.


Title: Re: Hminers- Obviously a Scam?!
Post by: Ben271286 on August 16, 2017, 07:12:47 PM
One more "too good to be true" i guess...or does anybody can report something positive?
Please be careful!

https://hminers.com

FAQ:
3. What methods of payment do you accept?
At the moment we only accept Bitcoin and Litecoin,in the near future we will add Bank Transfer as well.
4. Do you accept PayPal,Credit Cards or Bank Transfer?
Unfortunately we cannot accept at the moment those payment methods due to the frequently occurring fraud practices.
5. Can I pay cash in your office?
Due to security policies and our confidentiality policy we cannot accept this method of payment.
6. Can I pay for the order in several payments?
Yes, but your order will be confirmed only after you’ve paid in full.
Payment must be made in full in order to confirm and reserve your order
7. Can I visit your office, data center or manufacturing facilities?
Earlier visits were possible by preliminary coordination for some of our wholesale customers.
However after several cases of industrial espionage we decided to prohibit personal visits.


10000% Fake and don't fall on this one. What the heck on those TeraHashes. 150 th/s? WTF!  If you know the latest antminer s9 you will directly able to identify that this is just a pure bullshit scam. They do put efforts on making their site believable and I'm sure there would really be newbies would easily fall on this one if they aren't knowledgeable enough.Good for you that you did able to ask this kind of thing.

Someone on the german thread asked about it...is there a main thread about Scam Sites like this? Maybe it would be helpful for ppl to know where to buy and where not..
That person who do asked would really be a complete newbie when it comes to mining. Regarding on list on scam sites we do have a proper board on that https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0 you can see various sites which do have scam accusations but this list or board don't have all the accurate list this is why we should always seek up feedbacks on the net if we didn't able to see on what we are seeking for.

didnt even recognised this section ::) good to know!
what do you think about ufominers.com?

I wont buy any miner from a small company thats not mentioned here with some positive feedback...i stick to bitmain and my gpu rigs i buy at my local shop.


Title: Re: Hminers- Obviously a Scam?!
Post by: QuintLeo on August 16, 2017, 10:14:04 PM
Hmmm - a miner that can mine ETH (GPU), Scrypt and SHA256 (only 2 ASIC that were ever created to do both, and those were NOT efficient SHA256 miners by the time they showed up), and let's not forget the crazy-high hashrates.

 Also, that H4U is a standard 4u rackmount case, I've SEEN that specific case design before.

 Then there is the capper - a claim that they're manufacturing on a 10nm process when INTEL (the leader at that node) hasn't brought it into production yet.

 I smell - DEFINITE SCAM.


 UFOMiners is a scam site that's already been brought up a few times.



Title: Re: Hminers- Obviously a Scam?!
Post by: carlfebz2 on August 17, 2017, 03:59:32 PM
One more "too good to be true" i guess...or does anybody can report something positive?
Please be careful!

https://hminers.com

FAQ:
3. What methods of payment do you accept?
At the moment we only accept Bitcoin and Litecoin,in the near future we will add Bank Transfer as well.
4. Do you accept PayPal,Credit Cards or Bank Transfer?
Unfortunately we cannot accept at the moment those payment methods due to the frequently occurring fraud practices.
5. Can I pay cash in your office?
Due to security policies and our confidentiality policy we cannot accept this method of payment.
6. Can I pay for the order in several payments?
Yes, but your order will be confirmed only after you’ve paid in full.
Payment must be made in full in order to confirm and reserve your order
7. Can I visit your office, data center or manufacturing facilities?
Earlier visits were possible by preliminary coordination for some of our wholesale customers.
However after several cases of industrial espionage we decided to prohibit personal visits.


10000% Fake and don't fall on this one. What the heck on those TeraHashes. 150 th/s? WTF!  If you know the latest antminer s9 you will directly able to identify that this is just a pure bullshit scam. They do put efforts on making their site believable and I'm sure there would really be newbies would easily fall on this one if they aren't knowledgeable enough.Good for you that you did able to ask this kind of thing.

Someone on the german thread asked about it...is there a main thread about Scam Sites like this? Maybe it would be helpful for ppl to know where to buy and where not..
That person who do asked would really be a complete newbie when it comes to mining. Regarding on list on scam sites we do have a proper board on that https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0 you can see various sites which do have scam accusations but this list or board don't have all the accurate list this is why we should always seek up feedbacks on the net if we didn't able to see on what we are seeking for.

didnt even recognised this section ::) good to know!
what do you think about ufominers.com?

I wont buy any miner from a small company thats not mentioned here with some positive feedback...i stick to bitmain and my gpu rigs i buy at my local shop.
ufominers.com is just like the same on the site that you have given first. They do offer miners with crazy numbers of terahashes which is out of this world.Just keep it on mind that the average or realistic hash rate on latest asic miners is on 13-16 th/s and things goes beyond that are just SCAM. Good decision better to stick on reputable companies like Bitmain and its really a wise thing to do.


Title: Re: Hminers- Obviously a Scam?!
Post by: snuff28 on August 17, 2017, 05:43:17 PM
SCAM!!

check out the team: https://hminers.com/about-us/

MARK SENIOM
CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER
http://headlines.uk.com/2017/03/21/how-to-hold-a-successful-facebook-live-qa-on-workplace/


DAN BUTTER
CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER
https://pixabay.com/en/business-tie-chef-company-work-1408161/


BENJAMIN BERGLUNG
CHIEF TECHNOLOGY OFFICER
https://pixabay.com/en/sharing-portrait-glasses-1232059/

And the best one is for the PR guy...

ADAM LARK
PUBLIC RELATION
https://www.bustle.com/articles/117501-8-things-guys-say-in-their-online-dating-profiles-versus-what-they-actually-mean


I could go on, but not worth my time...



Title: Re: Hminers- Obviously a Scam?!
Post by: Ultegra134 on August 17, 2017, 07:06:57 PM
Every "Mining" site offering similar options like this one is obviously a scam, they didn't even put some effort into building the website, looks like it was made in the 90's, pretty slow, plenty grammatical errors and so on. Every site that offers mining services or products by paying them enormous amounts in Bitcoin, not even Credit card or some other more "trusted" payment service, is or ends up in a scam.


Title: Re: Hminers- Obviously a Scam?!
Post by: thesavoyard on August 18, 2017, 09:00:10 AM
 So many scammers out there trying to profit off the mining boom.


Title: Re: Hminers- Obviously a Scam?!
Post by: darthmaul on August 18, 2017, 09:14:03 AM
Two of the FAQ made me laugh from your posts. One which is saying can i deposit money into your office and second can i visit your office. For both of them they have given unexpected answer that is "No" in short.

That is what makes it more fake and we can not trust them if they are not able to disclose their office location. I mean it literally yells that they dont have any physical presence and they are ready to scam us really.

If im providing a mining service then i will have to have a big premises and office to perform the mining operations. From whatever information you have provided here it looks fake to me. Thanks for sharing that makes it easy to understand upcoming scam sites.


Title: Re: Hminers- Obviously a Scam?!
Post by: Metroid on August 18, 2017, 11:24:07 AM
I must laugh on their website, it's not believable at all.
But you are right, they just trying to catch noobs on the bait.

They are mining scamcoin, most profitable coin right now cause people have more money than sense.


Title: Re: Hminers- Obviously a Scam?!
Post by: KRea on August 19, 2017, 04:53:19 AM
"customer only has to plug-ins and mine"
If it wasnt for that one grammatical error I probably wouldve felk for it. Oh yes, I dont have any bitcoins either.

They went too far ... 90 TH/s at only 1200W? Vs an Antminer about 13 TH/s at 1275W.
They should have made it somewhat believable at about 40 TH/s and 1400W.

Pretty impressed with the site though.


Title: Re: Hminers- Obviously a Scam?!
Post by: sevenmiles on August 19, 2017, 05:15:00 AM
I must laugh on their website, it's not believable at all.
But you are right, they just trying to catch noobs on the bait.

They are mining scamcoin, most profitable coin right now cause people have more money than sense.

Maybe someone should create a real scamcoin, and distribute as rewards for people who could actively dig out stupid scammers :P


Title: Re: Hminers- Obviously a Scam?!
Post by: Omg9500 on August 22, 2017, 04:34:15 AM
Hello everybody,

Hminers is obviously a scam because

A) no such dual or triple miners exist in the world
B) the website was created in June 2017 and is hosted in romania
C) the company with HQ in Miami does not exist (everybody can check the state registry of Florida... http://search.sunbiz.org/Inquiry/CorporationSearch/SearchResults?inquiryType=EntityName&searchNameOrder=HMINERSTECHNOLOGIES&searchTerm=Hminers technologies Inc)

Best regards and happy mining.

Frank


Title: Re: Hminers- Obviously a Scam?!
Post by: PizzaBTC on August 28, 2017, 08:54:43 AM
One more "too good to be true" i guess...or does anybody can report something positive?
Please be careful!

https://hminers.com

FAQ:
3. What methods of payment do you accept?
At the moment we only accept Bitcoin and Litecoin,in the near future we will add Bank Transfer as well.
4. Do you accept PayPal,Credit Cards or Bank Transfer?
Unfortunately we cannot accept at the moment those payment methods due to the frequently occurring fraud practices.
5. Can I pay cash in your office?
Due to security policies and our confidentiality policy we cannot accept this method of payment.
6. Can I pay for the order in several payments?
Yes, but your order will be confirmed only after you’ve paid in full.
Payment must be made in full in order to confirm and reserve your order
7. Can I visit your office, data center or manufacturing facilities?
Earlier visits were possible by preliminary coordination for some of our wholesale customers.
However after several cases of industrial espionage we decided to prohibit personal visits.

That seems to be a scam the company is trying to avoid any form of physical contact but wants people to invest their cash with them doesn’t work that way, people prefer to do face to face deals than to be dealing with one faceless company